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00:12:21 <Avatar> http://paizo.com/events/v5748mkg0avki Unicon on paizo.com
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01:57:46 <s_gmusic> herro
01:57:58 <Steven> yo
02:00:07 <s_gmusic> so, apparently, if I cast Message and don't include a party member in its effects, thereby requiring them to make a DC25 Perception check to hear what is being said, I am causing PvP.
02:00:56 <Steven> i think today i will go see guardians of the galaxy
02:02:06 <Steven> dont tell me you got yourself involved in that thread.
02:02:23 <s_gmusic> what thread?
02:02:26 <s_gmusic> linkplz
02:03:21 <Steven> i dont link... i'm lazy.
02:03:37 <s_gmusic> i dont search... i'm lazy.
02:03:38 <s_gmusic> :P
02:09:24 <Steven> im mostly busy looking for a trait.
02:12:25 <s_gmusic> oh?
02:14:50 <Steven> yup yup
02:14:58 <Steven> trying to find a good flavor feat
02:15:02 <Steven> trait rather
02:35:14 <Steven> think i'm going to go with Tactile Telekinesis for my Lashunta
02:35:46 <Steven> Once per day as a swift action, you can add a trait bonus equal to your Intelligence modif ier on Strength checks and Strength-based skill checks you attempt before the beginning of your next turn.
02:36:14 <Kibbz> Nice
02:36:23 <Steven> takes a skill from being -1 to +4
02:36:28 <Kibbz> I'm currently trying to find a way to convert about 1000+ images from WDP to Jpg.
02:36:37 <Kibbz> Only program i've found wants $70 to do it, and that's fucked up
02:36:50 <s_gmusic> "Lashunta" ?
02:37:02 <Steven> its an alien
02:37:25 <s_gmusic> home game?
02:37:26 <Steven> yeah well my dad called me and wants to borrow 240 dollars because he cat manage his money on his vacation and has spent too much.
02:37:34 <Steven> AP
02:37:46 <s_gmusic> ah
02:38:13 <Steven> its a race that features Sexual Dimorphism
02:38:31 <Steven> oh well.
02:38:39 <Steven> women have +2 int +2 cha -2 Con
02:39:00 <Steven> men have +2 int +2 str and -2 wis
02:39:56 <Kibbz> I get that from my parents all the time. I'm right there with you.
02:40:15 <s_gmusic> o-0
02:40:30 <Steven> so i think i'm going to tinker with the new character i made see if i can eek better mechanics out of him.
02:41:50 <Steven> back.
02:41:54 <s_gmusic> wb
02:42:02 <Steven> they also have limited telepathy with any creature they share a language with.
02:42:08 <Kibbz> I still need to sit down and make my druid
02:42:32 <Steven> overall they are less powerful than an aasimar or tiefling.
02:44:15 <s_gmusic> speaking of tiefling: my wizard is now an arcanist. exploits are silly, namely Dimensional Shift
02:44:32 <Steven> meh thats no biggie
02:44:44 <Steven> i dislike the immediate counterspell
02:45:16 <Steven> hmmmm.
02:45:27 <Steven> so anything thats a monster with class levels will no longer ever be able to cast spells if there is an arcanist around.
02:46:04 <s_gmusic> See, I need to read more about the exploits. I really like D.Shift, though, because at level 4, I can move up to 65ft as a move action for only 1 resevoir point
02:48:35 <Avatar> I like immediate counterspell
02:48:41 <Avatar> that should be good for my exploiter wizard
02:49:58 <Avatar> I delved into the item section of the ACG today
02:50:03 <Avatar> there's some pretty sweet stuff in there
02:50:11 <Steven> yes there is.
02:50:30 <Avatar> rod that doubles the radius of a hex 3/day
03:03:19 <Steven> i bought a bunch of splat books
03:03:27 <Steven> down to 75 bucks in credit.
03:06:24 <Steven> also bought a new mouse... pretty happy with it.
03:06:43 <Steven> usually dont like wireless mouse, but this one is nice.
03:10:32 <Avatar> how the hell do you have so much credit?
03:12:15 <Steven> i just came back from gencon.
03:12:42 <Steven> i made this guy as a half orc originally.
03:12:51 <Steven> but i could make him as a human.
03:13:37 <Avatar> what does that mean
03:14:02 <Steven> they pay you in store credit to run tables for them.
03:14:29 <Avatar> wow
03:14:47 <Steven> between Paizocon and gencon i get 2 hardcovers for free each year and at least 150 in store credit.
03:15:07 <Steven> and then in a couple days i'm going to go do PAX and they gonna probably give me more stuff.
03:15:21 <Steven> usually some booster boxes.
03:16:32 <Steven> i think last year at pax i ended up getting 2-3 boons and, like 4-6 booster boxes worth of miniatures
03:17:37 <Steven> why ya think i never mind giving stuff out?
03:17:55 <Avatar> this explains everything
03:18:24 <s_gmusic> it does...
03:19:34 <Steven> next year i get this.
03:19:36 <Steven> Occult Adventures Hard Cover (Includes Psychic Magic)
03:19:43 <Steven> yeah you read that right... psychic magic.
03:20:26 <s_gmusic> yeah, seen that a few days ago. a bit curious, but not much.
03:20:46 <Steven> and they are going to revisit cheliax in the AP for 2015.
03:20:58 <Steven> im excited for that one.
03:34:24 <Steven> so... 20 channels a day is just stupid crazy.
03:34:42 <Steven> we played Sarkovian Prophecy and not a single wand was used.
03:37:06 <Steven> the story line for that AP is you're going to overthrow the Cheliaxian government
03:49:13 <Steven> i'm thinking its nap time.
03:56:50 <Mekkis> yeah. Hibernate through Season 6
03:57:18 <Steven> meh
03:57:26 <Steven> i dont really mind the robotic stuff.
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04:18:04 <Avatar> I did not realise that summoned monsters only accept direction if you can speak to them, and celestials and fiendishes don't even have enough int to understand anything
04:20:21 <Mekkis> they 'attack your enemies' even without direction
04:23:08 <Avatar> where is kapow
04:28:20 <Avatar> you don't control which enemy though
04:28:27 <Avatar> you can't make it do anything, it's all on its own accord
04:29:22 <Steven> there we go.
04:29:47 <Steven> finished the character.
04:30:49 <Steven> attacks of 12/12/7 vs flatfooted for 1d8+22 damage each.
04:34:23 <Avatar> vs flatfooted is a bit situational
04:34:42 <Steven> no its all the time.
04:35:01 <Steven> my attacks are 12/12/7 vs flatfooted AC.
04:38:54 <Mekkis> you pretty much say, "Well, this will attack <blah>", and the GM decides whether or not that's reasonable
04:39:40 <Steven> reasonable goes out the window with RAW. my attacks state it attacks vs flat footed.
04:39:44 <Avatar> or the GM controls the summon and says "it attacks <blah>" and then you roll the dice
04:39:58 <Mekkis> Sure, that's an interpration.
04:39:59 <Steven> oh you're talking about the summon thing
04:40:06 <Steven> hahahah
04:40:30 <Steven> really if you want the summoned creatures to attack certain things you need to summon them in the best spots possible.
04:41:17 <Avatar> what's better, a map that properly lines up with the grid, or a map that has the whole dungeon in one piece
04:43:19 <Avatar> I was reading in the forums today about someone trying to tell people that selectively channelling out a party member isn't a jerk move
04:43:30 <Avatar> while channeling to heal
04:44:13 <Steven> my life oracle wont heal people who consort with the undead.
04:44:18 <Steven> I have a list.
04:48:53 <Steven> crap forgot traits
04:51:22 <Mekkis> Avatar, link?
04:54:19 <Brunius> hard decision
04:55:36 <Avatar> I don't have it here, it was at work
04:57:30 <Avatar> http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2rdxw&page=4?PFS-and-friendly-fire#172
04:58:13 <Steven> no dont look at that thread... its horrible.
04:58:33 <Avatar> yeah somehow nobody criticised him for that
04:59:05 <Avatar> you would NEVER get away with selectively channelling out a teammate
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05:01:22 <Steven> i've done it... he consorted with undead... told him to heal himself, so he did w/ infernal healing.
05:07:58 <Mekkis> oh, THAT thread
05:08:05 <Mekkis> that was a jerk GM's move to start with
05:08:39 <Steven> yeah, i would have just let him redo his action instead of popping a ranger.
05:10:10 <Mekkis> I would have: 1) determined the ranger's alignment (not just forced Neutral on him).
05:10:59 <Mekkis> Following that, if the ranger was neutral, I'd ask the caster if he still wanted to centre it there. If he did, I'd ask the ranger's player if he was okay with it.
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05:14:26 <Avatar> Steven: that situation very might maybe be okay
05:14:38 <Avatar> maybe* might
05:15:03 <Avatar> this guy doesn't have a roleplay reason, he just doesn't want to heal teammates
05:15:32 <Steven> it was out of combat as well... in combat i've never excluded anyone
05:15:40 <Steven> except of course enemies.
05:19:16 <Avatar> I'm not even sure how I'd deal with that if I saw that in one of my games
05:20:00 <Steven> well if someone is excluding someone for the sole purpose of being a jerk you tell the table to take a break and pull the person aside and talk to them
05:21:21 <Avatar> and tell them not to be a jerk, or to walk
05:21:43 <Steven> pretty much.
05:22:43 <Steven> prolly go along the lines of "Hey i've been noticing some tension here, and you're character is excluding him from some pretty vital healing. As a pathfinder it is your job to put aside your differences and cooporate."
05:23:16 <Steven> "If you don't think that is something you can do right now, maybe you need to step back from this game."
05:23:51 <Mekkis> if the other character has been a bit of a dick to your character for much of the scenario, I can see that happening...
05:24:18 <Steven> yeah if the other guy has been being a dick then you also pull him aside and give him the dont be a dick speech
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05:24:51 <Mekkis> To be fair, I have played one game where I was aiming to cause a situation that would have indirectly resulted in the death of a character.
05:25:02 <Mekkis> (Actually, 3/5 of the players were...)
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05:35:30 <Mekkis> Steven, question regarding a feat
05:35:58 <Mekkis> how does Believers Boon work?
05:36:03 <Steven> might have answers
05:36:23 <Steven> wtf is believers boon
05:36:49 <Mekkis> Believers Boon
05:36:50 <Mekkis> Your deity rewards you for your faithfulness.
05:36:50 <Mekkis> Prerequisites: Wis i3, alignment must be within one
05:36:50 <Mekkis> step of your deity's.
05:36:50 <Mekkis> Benefit: Choose one domain granted by your deity.
05:36:50 <Mekkis> Once per day, you can use all ist-level domain abilities
05:36:52 <Mekkis> granted to clerics of that domain. You gain access to this
05:36:54 <Mekkis> one ability only, not the higher-level domain ability,
05:36:56 <Mekkis> domain spells, or additional class skills that the domain
05:37:00 <Mekkis> might grant, or any bonus feats that are listed under its
05:37:02 <Mekkis> granted powers. Your effective cleric level in regard to
05:37:04 <Mekkis> this ability is ist level.
05:37:14 <Steven> where is it from?
05:37:22 <Mekkis> ACG
05:38:43 <Steven> seems pretty straight forward.
05:38:53 <Steven> pick a domain get the first level domain granted power
05:40:12 <Mekkis> So if you chose the Glory domain, what would you get?
05:40:28 <Mekkis> Granted Powers: You are infused with the glory of the
05:40:28 <Mekkis> divine, and are a true foe of the undead. In addition, when
05:40:28 <Mekkis> you channel positive energy to harm undead creatures, the
05:40:28 <Mekkis> save DC to halve the damage is increased by 2.
05:40:28 <Mekkis> Touch of Glory (Sp): You can cause your hand to shimmer
05:40:30 <Mekkis> with divine radiance, allowing you to touch a creature as
05:40:32 <Mekkis> a standard action and give it a bonus equal to your cleric
05:40:34 <Mekkis> level on a single Charisma-based skill check or Charisma
05:40:36 <Mekkis> ability check. This ability lasts for 1 hour or until the
05:40:38 <Mekkis> creature touched elects to apply the bonus to a roll. You
05:40:40 <Mekkis> can use this ability to grant the bonus a number of times
05:40:42 <Mekkis> per day equal to 3 + your Wisdom modifier.
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05:40:59 <Steven> corner case consult forum
05:41:32 <Mekkis> okay. In other words, the answer is "something, expect table variation"?
05:41:40 <Steven> probably.
05:42:27 <Steven> actually i think you'd probably only get the touch of glory.
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05:45:03 <Steven> but hell... i'm sure it will be ruled tons of different ways.
05:45:08 <Steven> people love to argue bout shit.
06:23:22 <Mekkis> Avatar, in my opinion, the former
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08:01:06 <Avatar> going to try start prepping heresy of man 2 today
08:01:30 <Mekkis> for when?
08:05:21 <Avatar> saturday
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09:03:09 <Kibbz> Good Morning gents.
09:17:39 <Mekkis> Good evening
09:22:35 <Kibbz> How are you today?
09:23:26 <Mekkis> alright
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10:03:49 <Steven> So.... built a character level 8... 20 channels/day.
10:20:51 <Avatar> http://paizo.com/events/v5748mkg0avki Unicon on paizo.com
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11:43:16 <s_gmusic> my friend went opposite of that. dwarf cleric, tanked CHA. lvl 1 and CHA is 5
12:09:25 <Steven> i think today i will go see guardians of the galaxy
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12:29:08 <Goya> How'd that work out?
12:31:01 <Steven> so... 320d6 worth of healing per day.
12:32:01 <Goya> *raises an eyebrow
12:32:07 <Goya> 320?
12:36:47 <Steven> sorry 160
12:36:53 <Steven> i forgot a step.
12:40:41 <Goya> Still...
12:44:44 <Kibbz> Nice
12:44:58 <Kibbz> I'm currently trying to find a way to convert about 1000+ images from WDP to Jpg.
12:45:07 <Kibbz> Only program i've found wants $70 to do it, and that's fucked up
12:45:56 <Steven> yeah well my dad called me and wants to borrow 240 dollars because he cat manage his money on his vacation and has spent too much.
12:47:00 <Steven> oh well.
12:47:05 <s_gmusic> he didn't get to play it
12:47:50 <s_gmusic> he made it for our game last night and was going to have fun with it, but everything was ruined by the one guy trying to control everyone's characters.
12:48:25 <Kibbz> I get that from my parents all the time. I'm right there with you.
12:48:59 <Steven> so i think i'm going to tinker with the new character i made see if i can eek better mechanics out of him.
12:50:38 <Kibbz> I still need to sit down and make my druid
12:53:39 <Steven> fart in his mouth.
12:53:45 <Steven> hmmmm.
12:56:16 <s_gmusic> he just got up and left the table. then I played with my magic a bit.
13:21:12 <Steven> i made this guy as a half orc originally.
13:21:21 <Steven> but i could make him as a human.
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17:25:53 <Steven> so... 20 channels a day is just stupid crazy.
17:26:11 <Steven> we played Sarkovian Prophecy and not a single wand was used.
18:09:36 <Avatar> going to try start prepping heresy of man 2 today
18:10:01 <Mekkis> for when?
18:13:51 <Avatar> saturday
18:14:37 <Avatar> where is kapow
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18:29:44 <Steven> i dont want to imagine what 22+hour flight would do to me.
18:32:46 <Avatar> what's better, a map that properly lines up with the grid, or a map that has the whole dungeon in one piece
18:45:48 <Brunius> hard decision
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18:53:59 <Steven> hmmmm any other books i want.
19:16:44 <Steven> oh technology guide... is it out yet?!?
19:18:31 <Steven> yup... buying it.
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20:12:19 <Steven> So.... built a character level 8... 20 channels/day.
20:14:51 <Mekkis> Avatar, in my opinion, the former
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21:51:47 <s_gmusic> my friend went opposite of that. dwarf cleric, tanked CHA. lvl 1 and CHA is 5
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22:23:39 <MarleyQuinn> o.o
22:37:39 <Goya> How'd that work out?
22:39:32 <Steven> so... 320d6 worth of healing per day.
22:40:32 <Goya> *raises an eyebrow
22:40:38 <Goya> 320?
22:45:18 <Steven> sorry 160
22:45:24 <Steven> i forgot a step.
22:49:12 <Goya> Still...
22:51:05 <Mekkis> hi
22:51:30 <MarleyQuinn> Hihi
22:55:35 <s_gmusic> he didn't get to play it
22:56:20 <s_gmusic> he made it for our game last night and was going to have fun with it, but everything was ruined by the one guy trying to control everyone's characters.
23:02:10 <Steven> fart in his mouth.
23:04:47 <s_gmusic> he just got up and left the table. then I played with my magic a bit.
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23:29:21 <Mekkis> "Vatican City wants Cult of Asmodeus"
23:48:25 <Steven> what up yo
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23:55:37 <slurk> ahoy
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