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01:35 <Mekkis> !spell raise animal companion
01:36 <diebot> Mekkis, RAISE ANIMAL COMPANION conjuration (healing[]) druid 5, paladin 4, ranger 4 1 minute Range: touch dead animal companion or bonded mount Comp: V, S, M (a diamond worth 1,000 gp) Duration: instantaneous Save: none, see text SR:yes (harmless)Source: Ultimate Magic
01:37 <diebot> This spell functions as raise dead, but it only affects an animal companion, familiar, or paladin's bonded mount.
03:29 <Mekkis> !item staff of fire
03:32 <diebot> Mekkis, STAFF OF FIRE [moderate evocation] CL:8 none 18950gp, 5lb
03:32 <diebot> Crafted from bronzewood with brass bindings, this staff allows use of the following spells: • Burning hands (1 charge) • Fireball (2 charges) • Wall of fire (3 charges) Source: Ultimate Equipment
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57:46 <s_gmusic> herro
57:58 <Steven> yo
00:07 <s_gmusic> so, apparently, if I cast Message and don't include a party member in its effects, thereby requiring them to make a DC25 Perception check to hear what is being said, I am causing PvP.
02:06 <Steven> dont tell me you got yourself involved in that thread.
02:23 <s_gmusic> what thread?
02:26 <s_gmusic> linkplz
03:21 <Steven> i dont link... i'm lazy.
03:37 <s_gmusic> i dont search... i'm lazy.
03:38 <s_gmusic> :P
09:24 <Steven> im mostly busy looking for a trait.
12:25 <s_gmusic> oh?
14:50 <Steven> yup yup
14:58 <Steven> trying to find a good flavor feat
15:02 <Steven> trait rather
35:14 <Steven> think i'm going to go with Tactile Telekinesis for my Lashunta
35:46 <Steven> Once per day as a swift action, you  can add a trait bonus equal to your Intelligence modif ier  on Strength checks and Strength-based skill checks you  attempt before the beginning of your next turn.
36:23 <Steven> takes a skill from being -1 to +4
36:50 <s_gmusic> "Lashunta" ?
37:02 <Steven> its an alien
37:25 <s_gmusic> home game?
37:34 <Steven> AP
37:46 <s_gmusic> ah
38:13 <Steven> its a race that features Sexual Dimorphism 
38:39 <Steven> women have +2 int +2 cha -2 Con
39:00 <Steven> men have +2 int +2 str and -2 wis
40:15 <s_gmusic> o-0
41:50 <Steven> back.
41:54 <s_gmusic> wb
42:02 <Steven> they also have limited telepathy with any creature they share a language with.
42:32 <Steven> overall they are less powerful than an aasimar or tiefling.
44:15 <s_gmusic> speaking of tiefling: my wizard is now an arcanist. exploits are silly, namely Dimensional Shift
44:32 <Steven> meh thats no biggie
44:44 <Steven> i dislike the immediate counterspell
45:27 <Steven> so anything thats a monster with class levels will no longer ever be able to cast spells if there is an arcanist around.
46:04 <s_gmusic> See, I need to read more about the exploits. I really like D.Shift, though, because at level 4, I can move up to 65ft as a move action for only 1 resevoir point
48:35 <Avatar> I like immediate counterspell
48:41 <Avatar> that should be good for my exploiter wizard
49:58 <Avatar> I delved into the item section of the ACG today
50:03 <Avatar> there's some pretty sweet stuff in there
50:11 <Steven> yes there is.
50:30 <Avatar> rod that doubles the radius of a hex 3/day
03:19 <Steven> i bought a bunch of splat books
03:27 <Steven> down to 75 bucks in credit.
06:24 <Steven> also bought a new mouse... pretty happy with it.
06:43 <Steven> usually dont like wireless mouse, but this one is nice.
10:32 <Avatar> how the hell do you have so much credit?
12:15 <Steven> i just came back from gencon.
13:37 <Avatar> what does that mean
14:02 <Steven> they pay you in store credit to run tables for them.
14:29 <Avatar> wow
14:47 <Steven> between Paizocon and gencon i get 2 hardcovers for free each year and at least 150 in store credit.
15:07 <Steven> and then in a couple days i'm going to go do PAX and they gonna probably give me more stuff.
15:21 <Steven> usually some booster boxes.
16:32 <Steven> i think last year at pax i ended up getting 2-3 boons and, like 4-6 booster boxes worth of miniatures
17:37 <Steven> why ya think i never mind giving stuff out?
17:55 <Avatar> this explains everything
18:24 <s_gmusic> it does...
19:34 <Steven> next year i get this.
19:36 <Steven> Occult Adventures Hard Cover (Includes Psychic Magic)
19:43 <Steven> yeah you read that right... psychic magic.
20:26 <s_gmusic> yeah, seen that a few days ago. a bit curious, but not much.
20:46 <Steven> and they are going to revisit cheliax in the AP for 2015.
20:58 <Steven> im excited for that one.
37:06 <Steven> the story line for that AP is you're going to overthrow the Cheliaxian government
49:13 <Steven> i'm thinking its nap time.
56:50 <Mekkis> yeah. Hibernate through Season 6
57:18 <Steven> meh
57:26 <Steven> i dont really mind the robotic stuff.
18:04 <Avatar> I did not realise that summoned monsters only accept direction if you can speak to them, and celestials and fiendishes don't even have enough int to understand anything
20:21 <Mekkis> they 'attack your enemies' even without direction
28:20 <Avatar> you don't control which enemy though
28:27 <Avatar> you can't make it do anything, it's all on its own accord
29:22 <Steven> there we go.
29:47 <Steven> finished the character.
30:49 <Steven> attacks of 12/12/7 vs flatfooted for 1d8+22 damage each.
34:23 <Avatar> vs flatfooted is a bit situational
34:42 <Steven> no its all the time.
35:01 <Steven> my attacks are 12/12/7 vs flatfooted AC.
38:54 <Mekkis> you pretty much say, "Well, this will attack <blah>", and the GM decides whether or not that's reasonable
39:40 <Steven> reasonable goes out the window with RAW.  my attacks state it attacks vs flat footed.
39:44 <Avatar> or the GM controls the summon and says "it attacks <blah>" and then you roll the dice
39:58 <Mekkis> Sure, that's an interpration.
39:59 <Steven> oh you're talking about the summon thing
40:06 <Steven> hahahah
40:30 <Steven> really if you want the summoned creatures to attack certain things you need to summon them in the best spots possible.
43:19 <Avatar> I was reading in the forums today about someone trying to tell people that selectively channelling out a party member isn't a jerk move
43:30 <Avatar> while channeling to heal
44:13 <Steven> my life oracle wont heal people who consort with the undead.
44:18 <Steven> I have a list.
48:53 <Steven> crap forgot traits
51:22 <Mekkis> Avatar, link?
55:36 <Avatar> I don't have it here, it was at work
57:30 <Avatar> http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2rdxw&page=4?PFS-and-friendly-fire#172
58:13 <Steven> no dont look at that thread... its horrible.
58:33 <Avatar> yeah somehow nobody criticised him for that
59:05 <Avatar> you would NEVER get away with selectively channelling out a teammate
01:22 <Steven> i've done it... he consorted with undead... told him to heal himself, so he did w/ infernal healing.
07:58 <Mekkis> oh, THAT thread
08:05 <Mekkis> that was a jerk GM's move to start with
08:39 <Steven> yeah, i would have just let him redo his action instead of popping a ranger.
10:10 <Mekkis> I would have: 1) determined the ranger's alignment (not just forced Neutral on him).
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10:59 <Mekkis> Following that, if the ranger was neutral, I'd ask the caster if he still wanted to centre it there. If he did, I'd ask the ranger's player if he was okay with it.
14:26 <Avatar> Steven: that situation very might maybe be okay
14:38 <Avatar> maybe* might
15:03 <Avatar> this guy doesn't have a roleplay reason, he just doesn't want to heal teammates
15:32 <Steven> it was out of combat as well... in combat i've never excluded anyone
15:40 <Steven> except of course enemies.
19:16 <Avatar> I'm not even sure how I'd deal with that if I saw that in one of my games
20:00 <Steven> well if someone is excluding someone for the sole purpose of being a jerk you tell the table to take a break and pull the person aside and talk to them
21:21 <Avatar> and tell them not to be a jerk, or to walk
21:43 <Steven> pretty much.
22:43 <Steven> prolly go along the lines of "Hey i've been noticing some tension here, and you're character is excluding him from some pretty vital healing.  As a pathfinder it is your job to put aside your differences and cooporate."
23:16 <Steven> "If you don't think that is something you can do right now, maybe you need to step back from this game."
23:51 <Mekkis> if the other character has been a bit of a dick to your character for much of the scenario, I can see that happening...
24:18 <Steven> yeah if the other guy has been being a dick then you also pull him aside and give him the dont be a dick speech
24:51 <Mekkis> To be fair, I have played one game where I was aiming to cause a situation that would have indirectly resulted in the death of a character.
25:02 <Mekkis> (Actually, 3/5 of the players were...)
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31:48 <Kibbz> Helllooooo
35:30 <Mekkis> Steven, question regarding a feat
35:58 <Mekkis> how does Believers Boon work?
36:03 <Steven> might have answers
36:23 <Steven> wtf is believers boon
36:49 <Mekkis> Believers Boon
36:50 <Mekkis> Your deity rewards you for your faithfulness.
36:50 <Mekkis>    Prerequisites: Wis i3, alignment must be within one
36:50 <Mekkis> step of your deity's.
36:50 <Mekkis>    Benefit: Choose one domain granted by your deity.
36:50 <Mekkis> Once per day, you can use all ist-level domain abilities
36:52 <Mekkis> granted to clerics of that domain. You gain access to this
36:54 <Mekkis> one ability only, not the higher-level domain ability,
36:56 <Mekkis> domain spells, or additional class skills that the domain
37:00 <Mekkis> might grant, or any bonus feats that are listed under its
37:02 <Mekkis> granted powers. Your effective cleric level in regard to
37:04 <Mekkis> this ability is ist level.
37:14 <Steven> where is it from?
37:22 <Mekkis> ACG
38:43 <Steven> seems pretty straight forward.
38:53 <Steven> pick a domain get the first level domain granted power
40:12 <Mekkis> So if you chose the Glory domain, what would you get?
40:28 <Mekkis>    Granted Powers: You are infused with the glory of the
40:28 <Mekkis> divine, and are a true foe of the undead. In addition, when
40:28 <Mekkis> you channel positive energy to harm undead creatures, the
40:28 <Mekkis> save DC to halve the damage is increased by 2.
40:28 <Mekkis>    Touch of Glory (Sp): You can cause your hand to shimmer
40:30 <Mekkis> with divine radiance, allowing you to touch a creature as
40:32 <Mekkis> a standard action and give it a bonus equal to your cleric
40:34 <Mekkis> level on a single Charisma-based skill check or Charisma
40:36 <Mekkis> ability check. This ability lasts for 1 hour or until the
40:38 <Mekkis> creature touched elects to apply the bonus to a roll. You
40:40 <Mekkis> can use this ability to grant the bonus a number of times
40:42 <Mekkis> per day equal to 3 + your Wisdom modifier.
40:59 <Steven> corner case consult forum
41:32 <Mekkis> okay. In other words, the answer is "something, expect table variation"?
41:40 <Steven> probably.
42:27 <Steven> actually i think you'd probably only get the touch of glory.
45:03 <Steven> but hell... i'm sure it will be ruled tons of different ways.
45:08 <Steven> people love to argue bout shit.
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52:18 <Steven> suuuuuuup
03:00 <Kibbz> Hi there
03:42 <Steven> yo
04:33 <Kibbz> Sorry I barged into your IRC channel. My wife and myself are trying to get into pathfinder, but there is just so much...info, we are quite overwhelmed. So I did some google-fu today to try to find pathfinder chat rooms lol.
04:57 <Steven> its ok
05:06 <Steven> we like walk in
07:05 <Kibbz> Awesome, glad to hear. I'm not too sure what to do, my friend has an "open" pathfinder group, so when we asked if she could teach us how to play, she dumped literally every class/race/dual class option and all the extras
07:32 <Steven> that sounds overwhelming
07:58 <Kibbz> I ended up picking up core rules, adv. players guide, master spell book as those were pretty recommended....so I've eliminated a lot of other options.
08:27 <Kibbz> Looking into making a druid...my question though, it says in the core rules that druids can only cast spells that meet their alignment....yet none of the spells have an alignment type?
08:37 <Steven> so you're looking to build a druid.
08:42 <Steven> cool.
08:44 <Steven> druids are fun.
09:28 <Steven> dont worry about that... it basically means if you have a good alignment you cant cast protection from good, because it gains the Evil spell descriptor.
10:00 <Kibbz> I also had a question about their companions. Apparently I can pick a element-like deity thing...or a pet companion. Core rules gives a few to select from, but it says i can select stuff from the beastiery books too...but as I was looking at those, I can't imagine a 1st level druid have a T-Rex as a pet lol.
12:02 <Steven> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/druid/animal-companions
12:27 <Steven> a T-rex is a pretty meh companion really.
12:42 <Steven> i mean... it cant even give hugs.
12:55 <Avatar> t-rex is extremely weird for an animal companion
13:08 <Avatar> they're usually medium sized aren't they
13:23 <Avatar> how do you domesticate a t-rex and then bring it into social encounters
13:25 <Steven> yeah they go from medium to large sized
14:10 <Kibbz> Well, it's more of an argument that no where in the rules does it say what you are restricted to for a 1st level companion. 
14:36 <Steven> you're restricted to the druid list.
15:32 <Kibbz> So i could pick, any pet at 1st level that is listed on the druid list?
15:34 <Steven> which is basically any animal you can find that has an animal companion listing.
20:16 <Kibbz> interesting
21:29 <Steven> so hey avatar, i got a free raise dead boon
21:51 <Steven> brock gave it to me.
23:23 <Avatar> can I have it
23:42 <Steven> no.... its mine.
23:48 <Avatar> :|
23:53 <Avatar> but I want it
24:44 <Steven> i'm going to frame it with really thick Plexiglass that says break in case of emergency and have a really tiny hamer 
24:56 <Steven> and hang it in the store.
29:10 <Steven> you need anything from the store avatar?
29:23 <Avatar> yeah, a raise dead boon would be ok
29:56 <Avatar> I don't actually need a raise dead
30:29 <Mekkis> Steven, pretty sure that Plexiglass doesn't break when hammers are applied.
30:38 <Steven> ...
30:45 <Steven> exactly the point mekkis.
30:53 <Mekkis> unless you introduce exotic substances like liquid nitrogen
31:08 <Mekkis> Steven, Avatar needs a resurrection
31:20 <Avatar> yeah I could use a resurrection boon
31:27 <Steven> i dont have a resurrection boon.
31:38 <Avatar> can you ask mike for one
31:39 <Steven> i do however have a GM Star Recharge boon.
31:47 <Avatar> what's that!
32:05 <Steven> you GM games, when you GM enough a GM star will be recharged.
32:13 <Mekkis> also, regarding your comment about alignment restrictions on spellcasting, turns out that that's only for cleric casting.
32:34 <Mekkis> nothing's stopping a good-aligned wizard from casting evil-descriptor spells
33:11 <Steven> they were asking about druids.
34:18 <Steven> so i gave them the information that specifically related to druids casting alignment spells.
35:10 <Mekkis> So, Druids also have that restriction. Paladins, strangely, don't
35:38 <Kibbz> That makes sense, because druids can choose one of the elemental Deity things just like Cleric.
35:41 <Steven> yeah, its kind of strange that druids do since they dont worship a deity
35:49 <Avatar> oh yeah that's right
35:53 <Steven> well arent required to anyways.
36:07 <Avatar> you can replay a game with a star and then get recharge boons for it
36:12 <Kibbz> We get special stuff if we do! I prefer to have a kitty cat though
36:27 <Mekkis> so a Paladin can cast Protection from Good, but a good-aligned cleric can't
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38:36 <Steven> a paladin cannot cast protection from good.  it is not on their spell list.
38:48 <Mekkis> !spell protection from evil
38:49 <diebot> Mekkis, PROTECTION FROM EVIL abjuration ([good]) cleric/oracle 1, inquisitor 1, paladin 1, sorcerer/wizard 1, summoner 1 1 standard action Range: touch creature touched Comp: V, S, M/DF Duration: 1 min./level (D) Save: Will negates (harmless) SR:no; see textSource: PFRPG Core
38:50 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/protection_from_evil.html
39:22 <Mekkis> oh, you're correct.
39:42 <Steven> yeah, i'm lookin at the core rulebook.
39:56 <Mekkis> Have you seen anyone play a shaman?
40:08 <Steven> yes, had one at my table this weekend.
40:22 <Mekkis> What spirits?
40:26 <Steven> it was an exceptionally versatile character.
40:45 <Avatar> did he retrain his druid into shaman?
40:57 <Mekkis> now why would you do that?
40:59 <Steven> they had lore as primary and picked life as wandering because they lacked a healer.
41:09 <Avatar> I don't like my druid
41:20 <Avatar> lore does seem quite good
41:22 <Mekkis> did they use Confusion?
41:45 <Steven> not that i remember... there were a lot of constructs in the route they took.
43:17 <Steven> so avatar... i hear you wanna rebuild...
43:30 <Steven> solution Volunteer at Gencon next year!
44:46 <Avatar> someone would need to pay for my plane ticket to accomplish that
45:08 <Steven> its only like 2k
45:11 <Steven> roundtrip
45:50 <Steven> they pay for your hotel, which is about 1-1.2k
46:08 <Steven> give you 10 buck in store credit per slot
46:28 <Steven> you can hang out with some of the people i prattle on about.
46:48 <Avatar> mate I don't have 2k to burn 
46:55 <Kibbz> No one has 2k to burn these days
46:58 <Steven> well not right now you dont, but if you saved up for it.
47:15 <Kibbz> So you guys are from AUS?
47:16 <Steven> you've an entire year to do it!
47:25 <Steven> I'm not, I live in Washington.
47:57 <Avatar> I always save whatever I can chief
48:05 <Avatar> 2k to burn to get a retrain, I dunno
48:16 <Steven> its not just to get a retrain.
48:37 <Avatar> Kibbz: most of us, steven is in washington
48:42 <Kibbz> PFS sounds complicated. I was told that once you hit 12th level, you have to make a new character?
48:54 <Mekkis> you generally make a new character long before that
49:08 <Steven> at 12th level you become a seeker and are retired from normal society play.
49:14 <Avatar> you'd usually have several characters, ideally about 3 levels apart from each other
49:31 <Steven> but can still take part in modules and some select scenarios only available to level 12+ people
49:48 <Kibbz> ah
49:55 <Steven> but at 12th level you basically become the top 5% most powerful people on the planet.
50:14 <Kibbz> What's the point of PFS? Like, what exactly do you get out of it? I heard a lot of things are restricted based on the season?
50:29 <Steven> and if you become level 20 you're basically like the top 0.1%
51:18 <Steven> The point of it is to provide a consistent play experience across the entirety of the player base... this is not always achieved because not all GMs are created equal.
51:30 <Avatar> Kibbz: how do you normally play pathfinder?
51:51 <Kibbz> Avatar: I've only played one session so far...trying to figure everything out to get more into it.
51:58 <Steven> and there are rules lawyers, and hyper optimized players, and under optimized players... so on so forth.
52:03 <Steven> but over all
52:19 <Avatar> think of society as playing one "mission" per session with your character and a mix of a party of other people's characters
52:31 <Steven> it should average out to provide a consistent play experience.
52:40 <Avatar> then for your next mission, you can mix up your party with other people
53:03 <Avatar> each session you're essentially on a different "quest" if you like
53:06 <Steven> yeah, so like today avatar, mekkis, you and I would all be on a team to go accomplish a mission.
53:06 <Kibbz> so PFS sounds like it includes a lot less roleplay and more strategy?
53:21 <Steven> and next time avatar wouldnt be able to play because he has work.
53:21 <Avatar> it still includes roleplay
53:40 <Steven> so instead Bob would join the table and play.
53:50 <Steven> and we would do the mission.
54:12 <Steven> and then lets say next week you and i couldnt show up because one of us fell down a well and the other was busy rescuing him.
54:24 <Steven> so the table would be avatar, mekkis, bob ad sally.
54:48 <Steven> so it is like a campaign that doesnt require everyone show up every single time.
54:56 <Steven> because life happens.
56:01 <Steven> changing gears here...
56:25 <Steven> Avatar... flight from Melbourne(cause i dont know where you live) to indianapolis 1800 bucks
56:34 <Steven> round trip.
56:55 <Kibbz> That's a lot of $$
57:01 <Kibbz> brb going home for the day
57:43 <Steven> this last weekend cost me about 1200 to do including plane, food, and buying shit i didnt need.
58:14 <Steven> oh god, walter spent so much on magic cards.
58:35 <Steven> he bought 42 Full art zendikar lands... average price of 15 dollars each.
59:13 <Steven> just to pimp out his Azusa EDH deck.
03:05 <Avatar> I don't even travel within australia for pathfinder man
03:17 <Avatar> that's a mekkis thing
03:21 <Steven> laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame
03:34 <Avatar> I haven't seen you down under lately !
03:41 <Avatar> cripes
04:14 <Steven> not gonna touch that one... but does my country have the monopoly on poisonous critters that kill you?
04:19 <Steven> no thats australia.
16:01 <Avatar> not this again
17:29 <Steven> hahaha
17:50 <Steven> no but really... i wont fly down to australia.
18:46 <Steven> I'm 6'4" and im a big guy... my knees are still killing me from being stuffed into the plane seats yesterday for 9 hours.
21:16 <Steven> i dont want to imagine what 22+hour flight would do to me.
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45:30 <Steven> hmmmm any other books i want.
08:16 <Steven> oh technology guide... is it out yet?!?
10:02 <Steven> yup... buying it.
39:56 <Steven> what up yo
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49:18 <s_gmusic> herro
49:29 <Steven> yo
51:38 <s_gmusic> so, apparently, if I cast Message and don't include a party member in its effects, thereby requiring them to make a DC25 Perception check to hear what is being said, I am causing PvP.
53:37 <Steven> dont tell me you got yourself involved in that thread.
53:54 <s_gmusic> what thread?
53:57 <s_gmusic> linkplz
54:52 <Steven> i dont link... i'm lazy.
55:08 <s_gmusic> i dont search... i'm lazy.
55:09 <s_gmusic> :P
00:55 <Steven> im mostly busy looking for a trait.
03:57 <s_gmusic> oh?
06:21 <Steven> yup yup
06:30 <Steven> trying to find a good flavor feat
06:34 <Steven> trait rather
26:45 <Steven> think i'm going to go with Tactile Telekinesis for my Lashunta
27:18 <Steven> Once per day as a swift action, you  can add a trait bonus equal to your Intelligence modif ier  on Strength checks and Strength-based skill checks you  attempt before the beginning of your next turn.
27:54 <Steven> takes a skill from being -1 to +4
28:21 <s_gmusic> "Lashunta" ?
28:33 <Steven> its an alien
28:56 <s_gmusic> home game?
29:05 <Steven> AP
29:17 <s_gmusic> ah
29:44 <Steven> its a race that features Sexual Dimorphism 
30:11 <Steven> women have +2 int +2 cha -2 Con
30:31 <Steven> men have +2 int +2 str and -2 wis
31:46 <s_gmusic> o-0
33:21 <Steven> back.
33:25 <s_gmusic> wb
33:33 <Steven> they also have limited telepathy with any creature they share a language with.
34:03 <Steven> overall they are less powerful than an aasimar or tiefling.
35:46 <s_gmusic> speaking of tiefling: my wizard is now an arcanist. exploits are silly, namely Dimensional Shift
36:03 <Steven> meh thats no biggie
36:15 <Steven> i dislike the immediate counterspell
36:58 <Steven> so anything thats a monster with class levels will no longer ever be able to cast spells if there is an arcanist around.
37:35 <s_gmusic> See, I need to read more about the exploits. I really like D.Shift, though, because at level 4, I can move up to 65ft as a move action for only 1 resevoir point
40:06 <Avatar> I like immediate counterspell
40:12 <Avatar> that should be good for my exploiter wizard
41:29 <Avatar> I delved into the item section of the ACG today
41:34 <Avatar> there's some pretty sweet stuff in there
41:42 <Steven> yes there is.
42:01 <Avatar> rod that doubles the radius of a hex 3/day
54:51 <Steven> i bought a bunch of splat books
54:58 <Steven> down to 75 bucks in credit.
57:55 <Steven> also bought a new mouse... pretty happy with it.
58:14 <Steven> usually dont like wireless mouse, but this one is nice.
02:03 <Avatar> how the hell do you have so much credit?
03:46 <Steven> i just came back from gencon.
05:08 <Avatar> what does that mean
05:33 <Steven> they pay you in store credit to run tables for them.
06:00 <Avatar> wow
06:18 <Steven> between Paizocon and gencon i get 2 hardcovers for free each year and at least 150 in store credit.
06:38 <Steven> and then in a couple days i'm going to go do PAX and they gonna probably give me more stuff.
06:52 <Steven> usually some booster boxes.
08:03 <Steven> i think last year at pax i ended up getting 2-3 boons and, like 4-6 booster boxes worth of miniatures
09:08 <Steven> why ya think i never mind giving stuff out?
09:26 <Avatar> this explains everything
09:55 <s_gmusic> it does...
11:05 <Steven> next year i get this.
11:07 <Steven> Occult Adventures Hard Cover (Includes Psychic Magic)
11:14 <Steven> yeah you read that right... psychic magic.
11:57 <s_gmusic> yeah, seen that a few days ago. a bit curious, but not much.
12:17 <Steven> and they are going to revisit cheliax in the AP for 2015.
12:29 <Steven> im excited for that one.
28:37 <Steven> the story line for that AP is you're going to overthrow the Cheliaxian government
40:44 <Steven> i'm thinking its nap time.
48:20 <Mekkis> yeah. Hibernate through Season 6
48:49 <Steven> meh
48:57 <Steven> i dont really mind the robotic stuff.
59:46 <Steven> The point of it is to provide a consistent play experience across the entirety of the player base... this is not always achieved because not all GMs are created equal.
59:58 <Avatar> Kibbz: how do you normally play pathfinder?
00:20 <Kibbz> Avatar: I've only played one session so far...trying to figure everything out to get more into it.
00:26 <Steven> and there are rules lawyers, and hyper optimized players, and under optimized players... so on so forth.
00:31 <Steven> but over all
00:47 <Avatar> think of society as playing one "mission" per session with your character and a mix of a party of other people's characters
00:59 <Steven> it should average out to provide a consistent play experience.
01:08 <Avatar> then for your next mission, you can mix up your party with other people
01:31 <Avatar> each session you're essentially on a different "quest" if you like
01:34 <Steven> yeah, so like today avatar, mekkis, you and I would all be on a team to go accomplish a mission.
01:35 <Kibbz> so PFS sounds like it includes a lot less roleplay and more strategy?
01:49 <Steven> and next time avatar wouldnt be able to play because he has work.
01:49 <Avatar> it still includes roleplay
02:08 <Steven> so instead Bob would join the table and play.
02:18 <Steven> and we would do the mission.
02:41 <Steven> and then lets say next week you and i couldnt show up because one of us fell down a well and the other was busy rescuing him.
02:53 <Steven> so the table would be avatar, mekkis, bob ad sally.
03:16 <Steven> so it is like a campaign that doesnt require everyone show up every single time.
03:24 <Steven> because life happens.
04:29 <Steven> changing gears here...
04:53 <Steven> Avatar... flight from Melbourne(cause i dont know where you live) to indianapolis 1800 bucks
05:03 <Steven> round trip.
05:23 <Kibbz> That's a lot of $$
05:29 <Kibbz> brb going home for the day
06:11 <Steven> this last weekend cost me about 1200 to do including plane, food, and buying shit i didnt need.
06:43 <Steven> oh god, walter spent so much on magic cards.
07:03 <Steven> he bought 42 Full art zendikar lands... average price of 15 dollars each.
07:42 <Steven> just to pimp out his Azusa EDH deck.
09:35 <Avatar> I did not realise that summoned monsters only accept direction if you can speak to them, and celestials and fiendishes don't even have enough int to understand anything
11:33 <Avatar> I don't even travel within australia for pathfinder man
11:45 <Avatar> that's a mekkis thing
11:49 <Steven> laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame
11:52 <Mekkis> they 'attack your enemies' even without direction
12:02 <Avatar> I haven't seen you down under lately !
12:10 <Avatar> cripes
12:42 <Steven> not gonna touch that one... but does my country have the monopoly on poisonous critters that kill you?
12:48 <Steven> no thats australia.
19:51 <Avatar> you don't control which enemy though
19:58 <Avatar> you can't make it do anything, it's all on its own accord
20:53 <Steven> there we go.
21:17 <Steven> finished the character.
22:20 <Steven> attacks of 12/12/7 vs flatfooted for 1d8+22 damage each.
24:29 <Avatar> not this again
25:54 <Avatar> vs flatfooted is a bit situational
25:58 <Steven> hahaha
26:13 <Steven> no its all the time.
26:18 <Steven> no but really... i wont fly down to australia.
26:32 <Steven> my attacks are 12/12/7 vs flatfooted AC.
27:14 <Steven> I'm 6'4" and im a big guy... my knees are still killing me from being stuffed into the plane seats yesterday for 9 hours.
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29:44 <Steven> i dont want to imagine what 22+hour flight would do to me.
30:24 <Mekkis> you pretty much say, "Well, this will attack <blah>", and the GM decides whether or not that's reasonable
31:11 <Steven> reasonable goes out the window with RAW.  my attacks state it attacks vs flat footed.
31:15 <Avatar> or the GM controls the summon and says "it attacks <blah>" and then you roll the dice
31:29 <Mekkis> Sure, that's an interpration.
31:30 <Steven> oh you're talking about the summon thing
31:37 <Steven> hahahah
32:01 <Steven> really if you want the summoned creatures to attack certain things you need to summon them in the best spots possible.
34:49 <Avatar> I was reading in the forums today about someone trying to tell people that selectively channelling out a party member isn't a jerk move
35:01 <Avatar> while channeling to heal
35:44 <Steven> my life oracle wont heal people who consort with the undead.
35:49 <Steven> I have a list.
40:24 <Steven> crap forgot traits
42:53 <Mekkis> Avatar, link?
47:07 <Avatar> I don't have it here, it was at work
49:01 <Avatar> http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2rdxw&page=4?PFS-and-friendly-fire#172
49:44 <Steven> no dont look at that thread... its horrible.
50:04 <Avatar> yeah somehow nobody criticised him for that
50:36 <Avatar> you would NEVER get away with selectively channelling out a teammate
52:53 <Steven> i've done it... he consorted with undead... told him to heal himself, so he did w/ infernal healing.
53:59 <Steven> hmmmm any other books i want.
59:28 <Mekkis> oh, THAT thread
59:36 <Mekkis> that was a jerk GM's move to start with
00:10 <Steven> yeah, i would have just let him redo his action instead of popping a ranger.
01:41 <Mekkis> I would have: 1) determined the ranger's alignment (not just forced Neutral on him).
02:30 <Mekkis> Following that, if the ranger was neutral, I'd ask the caster if he still wanted to centre it there. If he did, I'd ask the ranger's player if he was okay with it.
05:56 <Avatar> Steven: that situation very might maybe be okay
06:09 <Avatar> maybe* might
06:34 <Avatar> this guy doesn't have a roleplay reason, he just doesn't want to heal teammates
07:02 <Steven> it was out of combat as well... in combat i've never excluded anyone
07:11 <Steven> except of course enemies.
10:47 <Avatar> I'm not even sure how I'd deal with that if I saw that in one of my games
11:31 <Steven> well if someone is excluding someone for the sole purpose of being a jerk you tell the table to take a break and pull the person aside and talk to them
12:52 <Avatar> and tell them not to be a jerk, or to walk
13:14 <Steven> pretty much.
14:14 <Steven> prolly go along the lines of "Hey i've been noticing some tension here, and you're character is excluding him from some pretty vital healing.  As a pathfinder it is your job to put aside your differences and cooporate."
14:47 <Steven> "If you don't think that is something you can do right now, maybe you need to step back from this game."
15:21 <Mekkis> if the other character has been a bit of a dick to your character for much of the scenario, I can see that happening...
15:49 <Steven> yeah if the other guy has been being a dick then you also pull him aside and give him the dont be a dick speech
16:21 <Mekkis> To be fair, I have played one game where I was aiming to cause a situation that would have indirectly resulted in the death of a character.
16:33 <Mekkis> (Actually, 3/5 of the players were...)
16:44 <Steven> oh technology guide... is it out yet?!?
18:31 <Steven> yup... buying it.
27:01 <Mekkis> Steven, question regarding a feat
27:28 <Mekkis> how does Believers Boon work?
27:34 <Steven> might have answers
27:54 <Steven> wtf is believers boon
28:20 <Mekkis> Believers Boon
28:20 <Mekkis> Your deity rewards you for your faithfulness.
28:20 <Mekkis>    Prerequisites: Wis i3, alignment must be within one
28:20 <Mekkis> step of your deity's.
28:20 <Mekkis>    Benefit: Choose one domain granted by your deity.
28:20 <Mekkis> Once per day, you can use all ist-level domain abilities
28:20 <Mekkis> granted to clerics of that domain. You gain access to this
28:20 <Mekkis> one ability only, not the higher-level domain ability,
28:20 <Mekkis> domain spells, or additional class skills that the domain
28:20 <Mekkis> might grant, or any bonus feats that are listed under its
28:20 <Mekkis> granted powers. Your effective cleric level in regard to
28:20 <Mekkis> this ability is ist level.
28:45 <Steven> where is it from?
28:53 <Mekkis> ACG
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30:14 <Steven> seems pretty straight forward.
30:24 <Steven> pick a domain get the first level domain granted power
31:42 <Mekkis> So if you chose the Glory domain, what would you get?
31:58 <Mekkis>    Granted Powers: You are infused with the glory of the
31:58 <Mekkis> divine, and are a true foe of the undead. In addition, when
31:58 <Mekkis> you channel positive energy to harm undead creatures, the
31:58 <Mekkis> save DC to halve the damage is increased by 2.
31:58 <Mekkis>    Touch of Glory (Sp): You can cause your hand to shimmer
31:58 <Mekkis> with divine radiance, allowing you to touch a creature as
31:58 <Mekkis> a standard action and give it a bonus equal to your cleric
31:58 <Mekkis> level on a single Charisma-based skill check or Charisma
31:58 <Mekkis> ability check. This ability lasts for 1 hour or until the
31:58 <Mekkis> creature touched elects to apply the bonus to a roll. You
31:58 <Mekkis> can use this ability to grant the bonus a number of times
31:58 <Mekkis> per day equal to 3 + your Wisdom modifier.
32:30 <Steven> corner case consult forum
33:03 <Mekkis> okay. In other words, the answer is "something, expect table variation"?
33:11 <Steven> probably.
33:58 <Steven> actually i think you'd probably only get the touch of glory.
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54:40 <Kibbz> Good Morning gents.
09:09 <Mekkis> Good evening
14:06 <Kibbz> How are you today?
14:56 <Mekkis> alright
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