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09:01 <Mekkis> !spell speak with animals
09:06 <diebot> Mekkis, SPEAK WITH ANIMALS divination ([]) bard 3, druid 1, ranger 1 1 standard action Range: personal you Comp: V, S Duration: 1 min./level Save:  SR:Source: PFRPG Core
09:06 <diebot> You can ask questions of and receive answers from animals, but the spell doesn't make them any more friendly than normal. Wary and cunning animals are likely to be terse and evasive, while the more stupid ones make inane comments. If an animal is friendly toward you, it may do some favor or service for you.
26:05 <Avatar> one of the least useful spells in the game
26:39 <Avatar> does gencon start on thursday or saturday ?
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01:55 <s_gmusic> thursday
40:16 <Avatar> cheers
40:36 <Avatar> hmm that's our friday isn't it
41:18 <s_gmusic> yup
43:14 <s_gmusic> looks like I'm going to be in a bi-weekly Shadowrun group now. 5th edition and seems fun.
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50:19 <Avatar> where's that
54:33 <s_gmusic> it's a classless system.
58:28 <s_gmusic> http://www.shadowrun.com/what-is-shadowrun/
00:10 <Avatar> I know what it is
00:12 <Avatar> where are you playing it
00:33 <Avatar> I actually remember shadowrun having classes
00:41 <Avatar> mage, shaman, decker, samurai etc
01:27 <s_gmusic> I may have said that wrong, then.
01:43 <s_gmusic> just playing with a few friends at my store.
02:23 <Avatar> speaking of classes, I wouldn't mind a sweet new advanced class guide
02:29 <Avatar> with retraining rules :|
02:58 <s_gmusic> yeah, comes out in a few days. gonna have to make sure I have my orders in so that it arrives in time.
05:44 <Mekkis> you mean Cairo's retraining?
07:14 <Avatar> no I mean retraining into a hybrid class
07:29 <Avatar> I need to know the synergies
07:38 <Avatar> specifically shaman
07:47 <Avatar> I am still debating as to whether to do Cairo's
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15:36 <Steven> suuuuuuuuup
16:31 <Avatar> wassup
16:53 <Steven> prepping for gencon.
16:56 <Steven> sup with you
17:07 <Avatar> waiting for my ACG with retraining rules
17:20 <Avatar> PSYCH there are none.
17:26 <Steven> the ACG so good.
27:03 <Steven> R1 Black Tenticles, R2 Mind Fog R3 Disintegrate on the healer or is that too aggressive? 
28:25 <Steven> okay R1 Black Tenticles, R2 hit em with slow.
29:41 <Steven> anyone who has Freedom of movement gets slapped with an enervation followed by a dominate.
32:49 <Avatar> oh ruling of the day
32:56 <Avatar> I heard staves actually don't get recharged between scenarios
34:05 <Steven> I think thats a fairly unimportant ruling.
34:39 <Avatar> it is a very important ruling when you've bought a staff and expect it to be recharged at the beginning of a scenario
35:16 <Steven> I dont see why it wouldnt be recharged so long as a player can actually recharge the staff.
35:30 <Steven> just like damage to ability scores wearing off.
35:40 <Avatar> http://paizo.com/paizo/faq/v5748nruor1fq#v5748eaic9qy0
35:42 <Avatar> that's why
35:56 <Avatar> oh wait, what the
36:08 <Avatar> that said no like two days ago
36:39 <Steven> well if that said no, then that means after a scenario where you bought the staff the next time you play the character the staff starts with zero charges.
36:41 <Avatar> wait, what does 'yes' mean
36:51 <Avatar> staves never start with 0
37:56 <Steven> right, they start with 10 charges, all that says is they carry charges over to new scenarios so that when a person buys a staff the next scenario it doesnt start with zero charges.... if the answer is no to that question staves become worthless past the first scenario you play them in.
38:42 <Steven> because you can only recharge a staff once per day.
39:37 <Avatar> but if you burn 5 charges in a scenario
39:48 <Avatar> at the end of that scenario, those 5 would 'carry over' to the next
39:57 <Avatar> you wouldn't just get a new set of 10 thanks to the indeterminate time
40:20 <Steven> why wouldnt you?
40:28 <Avatar> because that FAQ says charges carry over
41:00 <Mekkis> there's also an indeterminate amount of time between scenarios
41:19 <Avatar> this specific rule overrides that general one
41:42 <Mekkis> I would argue that it's not specific /enough/ to override that
41:51 <Avatar> how 
41:54 <Avatar> it mentions staves
41:57 <Avatar> it's in the pathfinder society FAQ
42:04 <Steven> I think that is to prevent a GM from telling someone once they start a new scenario that their staff has zero charges.
42:50 <Avatar> you're right, it could be interpreted either way
43:11 <Steven> because if it is as you say, yesterday it said no charges dont carry over. then damn staves really sucked.
43:44 <Steven> Hey i'll pay 109k for a staff of life.
43:45 <Mekkis> more to the point, it doesn't really matter
43:48 <Avatar> my interpretation is that you could put charges into it at the end of a scenario and they carry over
44:00 <Mekkis> Because there's also an indeterminite amount of time /before/ a scenario.
44:04 <Steven> dont use it, and then next scenario all charges gone... ouch.
44:07 <Avatar> it does matter, because that faq is there
44:50 <Mekkis> so at the start of the scenario, you can spend ten days charging your staff, and another month copying your spellbooks with /secret page/
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45:58 <Steven> i dont really see a problem with somebody taking however many days before a scenario starts. to charge staves or prep a contingency spell
46:25 <Steven> or whatever they wanna do so long as its something their character would normally be doing.
46:41 <Mekkis> Grolschmir used to cast Goodberry a day before the scenario started. Free healing is good for low-level
47:03 <Steven> "Oh you're a spellcaster with a staff and you spent the first 7 days befoer going to the briefing recharging a staff... cool."
50:39 <Steven> i think the additional resources is going to be updated today with the ACG on it.
54:02 <Mekkis> and possibly banning PotP
54:38 <Steven> let us pray....
54:41 <Mekkis> you need to remember that Paizo was the publisher of Dragon Magazine
54:55 <Mekkis> that epitome of balance
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55:06 <Steven> We had a player show up with that last week
55:30 <Steven> uh... a 47 bluff to know what type of creature this is....
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55:49 <Steven> cause you know... I'm lying so good the creature itself believes that its abilities are what i say it is.
57:02 <Steven> oh, and that was after i told him his mask of stoney demeanor didnt increase that... which he was very upset about.
58:33 <Steven> We made our GM for our Homebrew sad.  He pitted us against 4 lacidons(the aquatic ghoul things) and a Level 3 Ghoul Cleric vs a party of 4 level 2s.
58:56 <Steven> and we TPK'd after an epic fight.
59:19 <Steven> so we rerolled and we didnt build flavor builds
02:08 <Steven> and now he is like WTF?!? steve has all knowledge skills at a +14 and causes bleed damage constantly, Walters unbuffed to hit with 4 attacks is +11/11/11/6 for minimum of 14 damage per hit, the Oracle keeps everyone full healed without running out of spell slots, and the rogue is sneak attacking with a greatsword.... how did this happen.
02:54 <Steven> and walter was like... well 4 lacidons and a level 3 ghoul cleric... guess you should have leveled us up to 3rd lol
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44:40 <Steven> printing off all my gencon stuff.
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25:00 <Steven> 2/5 scenarios printed.
29:50 <Steven> wish i still was all into gadgets... i'm completely in the dark as to whats a good tablet.
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19:07 <Steven> okay... so if i were to buy one of these tablets. would it load PDFs?
20:16 <Steven> RCA PRO 10
20:22 <Steven> 16gb
25:45 <Steven> come on mekkis isnt this your like area of expertise.
35:53 <Mekkis> Steven, my experience is: try it out.
35:56 <Mekkis> Load the crb
36:57 <Steven> Well i dont have access to the tablet before i purchase it.  Do you know much about android 4.2?
43:23 <Steven> I'd like to stay with foxit... i like the way their reader is.
20:57 <Mekkis> if you don't have access to the tablet before you buy it, don't buy it
21:24 <Steven> well i mean i cant upload things to it. it is a store model.
21:34 <Steven> i played around with it,  worked well.
22:54 <Steven> i just dont know enough about tablets, so i'm asking for opinions.
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16:46 <Mekkis> Steven, use microsd card
22:42 <Mekkis> but Paizo PDFs are bitches to open, so if the tablet can't open and scroll through the core rulebook (not the lite version) don't get it.
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