// #d&d — 2014-08-06
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07:22:23 <Avatar> well put, mekkis
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08:03:41 <Syntoia> aloha
08:11:38 <Avatar> yo
08:13:32 <Syntoia> someone responded -hides-
08:19:51 <Avatar> that's not how it works
08:31:26 <Syntoia> well no one usually responds! My friend is trying to get me ready to play my first game eventually lol
08:41:31 <Avatar> if we don't respond, it's because you've been here for 1-10 minutes after saying hello
08:41:57 <Avatar> lots of people come in and leave quickly
08:42:10 <Avatar> it's 8.30am where I am, so I'm about to go to work
08:43:12 <Syntoia> it is nearly midnight here lol
08:43:56 <Avatar> the channel is most active during your mornings then
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10:37:18 <Steven> hey
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13:46:04 <Avatar> does anyone have a herolab portfolio file I can use to test out phil's app?
13:46:24 <Steven> not i.
13:46:32 <Avatar> do you use herolab at all
13:47:17 <Steven> i've used it in the past to generate a unit of bad guys.
13:47:31 <Steven> i am unable to share that file with you though
13:47:36 <Avatar> how come
13:47:43 <Avatar> is it linked to you or something
13:47:52 <Steven> NDA
13:47:57 <Steven> but not to paizo.
13:48:07 <Avatar> okay
13:48:19 <Avatar> can you whip up a new one
13:48:22 <Avatar> reasonably quickly
13:48:22 <Steven> i could make something for you though... give me a minute
13:48:27 <Avatar> doesn't matter what's in it
13:49:10 <Steven> yeah i might have to update hero lab, been bout a month since i opened it.
13:49:20 <Avatar> np
13:51:05 <Steven> yup update.
13:52:05 <Steven> jesus.
13:52:10 <Steven> another update.
13:52:19 <Steven> 100mb now.
13:55:39 <Steven> one of the reasons i dont like hero labs is starting it and finding out i need to wait half an hour to start tinkering with my character.
13:56:44 <Avatar> that would be more annoying than opening a text file
13:57:49 <s_gmusic> why a half an hour?
13:58:00 <Avatar> he is being colourful
13:58:03 <Steven> that is of course an exaggeration its only like 10-15 minutes.
13:58:05 <Avatar> do you have a portfolio file s_g
13:58:09 <Avatar> that you can send me
13:58:11 <Steven> but its still annoying
13:58:16 <s_gmusic> not on this computer. :\
13:58:18 <Avatar> ug
13:58:54 <s_gmusic> yeah, I only used one of my licenses on my laptop I carry my pathfinder stuff on (yay .pdfs). I'm holding the other one for when I get an iPad
13:59:47 <Steven> i only use pdfs
13:59:58 <Steven> i detest carrying around a fuck ton of books.
14:00:29 <Steven> alright 12 minutes to get herolabs up and running so i can do what i wanted to do.
14:01:49 <s_gmusic> steven, is your computer that slow or did you need to update?
14:01:58 <Steven> needed to update.
14:02:00 <s_gmusic> ah
14:02:09 <Avatar> 90% of your rulebooks are on the masterwork tools app
14:02:16 <Avatar> and there's no load time for pages or searches
14:02:40 <Avatar> https://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=Masterwork+Tools&hl=en
14:05:14 <s_gmusic> just got this in today: http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/03519/latest/03519
14:05:55 <s_gmusic> the back is hollowed out and covered with the cape to hide it, but despite that, it's still heavier than a can of soda. o-o
14:07:29 <Avatar> what size is it?
14:08:31 <s_gmusic> should be Large
14:08:58 <Steven> sent you an email with a herolabs profile in it
14:10:10 <Avatar> thank ye
14:10:35 <s_gmusic> yeah, large. same standing height as my Large Earth Elemental figure
14:12:33 <Avatar> the app doesn't open a .por file
14:13:10 <Steven> what file type do you want?
14:14:28 <Avatar> I have no idea
14:14:30 <Avatar> whatever the app accepts
14:14:43 <Avatar> phil has no instructions so I would assume it's meant to be intuitive
14:15:02 <Avatar> what other file types can you save it as
14:15:13 <Steven> pdf
14:15:25 <Avatar> don't think it's meant to be pdf
14:15:35 <Avatar> I would think it's something similar to xml
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14:17:46 <Avatar> D
14:20:30 <Steven> hmmm i'm not given any of those options
14:21:30 <Steven> im given plain text, html, bbcode, and wikitext
14:22:30 <Avatar> could be bbcode
14:22:53 <Avatar> hard to say
14:23:33 <Damalon01> hmmm
14:24:12 <Damalon01> how is everyone one?
14:24:26 <Avatar> do you use herolab damalon
14:24:40 <Avatar> and do you have an android phone/tablet
14:25:19 <Steven> i'm alright, i'm about to go get myself a cherry vanilla coke.
14:26:06 <Damalon01> no i dont use herolab and no i dont have a tablet. sorry!
14:26:14 <Avatar> s'all good
14:26:31 <Damalon01> cherry vanilla? sounds nice
14:27:06 <Steven> it is like the best parts about a cherry coke and a vanilla coke put together.
14:29:09 <Damalon01> any chance of a PFS game this weekend?
14:29:49 <Avatar> I don't think I have time to prep for this weekend
14:30:02 <Avatar> I guess I could do something I've done before
14:30:36 <Steven> whirlwind prep go go!
14:30:49 <Avatar> nah I need a good week to prep usually
14:31:06 <Steven> well my birthday is this friday... whatcha gonna run for me?
14:31:17 <Avatar> I usually don't like running games I've run before, but since I hit 3 stars, I don't really care about GM credit as much
14:31:32 <Avatar> what haven't you played :P
14:31:32 <Damalon01> yup yup
14:32:04 <Damalon01> im in mid prep for scars of the third. kinda wanted a break for a little.
14:32:16 <Damalon01> urm theres heaps i havent played
14:32:56 <Steven> damn... everyone always asks that!
14:32:56 <Damalon01> i wanted to get my crew involved if possible and since Jason is still level 1
14:33:12 <Steven> I havent played the command the army scenario.
14:33:23 <Damalon01> itd have to be 1-5 i geuss
14:34:07 <Steven> Trators lodge and Library of the Lion.
14:34:33 <Avatar> you haven't played library of the lion??
14:34:41 <Damalon01> i havent either
14:34:51 <Avatar> I ran traitor's lodge a few months ago
14:34:53 <Damalon01> but ive run it for bazz and robert
14:35:05 <Damalon01> ive played traitors lodge
14:35:08 <Steven> yeah, but i keep denying myself the play through until Big Kyle can run it.
14:35:30 <Avatar> any other scenarios
14:35:36 <Avatar> is the site up to date
14:35:51 <Steven> the site is missing all the new scenarios methinks
14:35:53 <Damalon01> yeah my entry on the site is up to date
14:36:02 <Damalon01> what steven said
14:36:05 <Avatar> yeah I've asked ballig to add in the new ones
14:36:51 <Avatar> steven the only scenario that's showing up for you is library of the lion
14:37:04 <Avatar> oh wait
14:37:15 <Avatar> scratch that, traitor's is there
14:38:42 <Avatar> are there any that you want to replay steven
14:38:50 <Steven> hm.....
14:39:19 <Steven> there are tons i'd love to replay, but i dont want to burn my replay credit on.
14:39:50 <Steven> the merchants wake was pretty fun.
14:40:07 <Avatar> we played that one week before last
14:40:13 <Steven> I'd probably burn replay on that.
14:40:23 <Avatar> damalon ran it
14:42:02 <Steven> the Scars of the Third Crusade looked really awesome, but I've no characters i'd want to run through it.
14:42:26 <Avatar> I haven't played scars
14:42:33 <Damalon01> scars is weird
14:43:02 <Damalon01> it should totally be rewritten so that it doesnt bend peoples brains
14:43:23 <Steven> thats my favorite kind of scenario!
14:43:38 <Damalon01> lols
14:43:53 <Damalon01> im thinking im gonna run scars next week or the week after?
14:44:13 <Steven> sadly i'll be off to gencon.
14:44:34 <Steven> but right now, that vanilla cherry coke must be obtained!
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14:52:24 <Damalon01> ahhh my interwebz died
15:22:09 <Steven> the place i usually get my vanilla cherry cokes was closed.
15:22:21 <Steven> so i bought the raw ingredients
15:22:52 <Steven> so tasty
15:36:25 <Steven> what up guys.
15:36:28 <Steven> its qiet in here.
15:36:39 <Steven> quiet even
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15:39:17 <Philderbeast> Avatar: are you here?
15:39:30 <Avatar> yeah
15:39:36 <Avatar> what do I do
15:39:49 <Philderbeast> was that you who left the comment on my app about the .por being grayed out?
15:40:06 <Avatar> yeah
15:40:24 <Philderbeast> hmmm thats really odd
15:40:35 <Philderbeast> can you send me your portfolio file please so i can take a look at it
15:40:36 <Avatar> I'll send you the por if you want
15:40:54 <Avatar> can you receive files on here
15:41:07 <Philderbeast> probably not im on mibbit
15:41:50 <Avatar> what's your email
15:42:58 <Avatar> sent
15:45:43 <Philderbeast> rgr ill take a look at it give me a few minutes
15:46:41 <Avatar> I had no idea how to contact you if you weren't in here
15:46:44 <Philderbeast> also what device are you using and what android version?
15:46:51 <Avatar> note 3 on kitkat
15:47:09 <Avatar> 4.4.2
15:47:30 <Avatar> ah, the phone, not the tablet
15:47:52 <Philderbeast> hmmm i just opened it on my tablet using the market version and got a human hunter 1
15:49:51 <Philderbeast> ok thats uncool... it is available to open on my 4.3 phone as well (although the app is broken on it at the moment
15:50:18 <Steven> yay the file i created is not working.
15:50:29 <Steven> i'm glad i could cause difficulties for you.
15:50:47 <Avatar> my keyboard on IRC has gone to shit, brb
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15:51:26 <Philderbeast> lol thanks Steven....
15:51:40 <Philderbeast> its working on my tablet though so this is going to be a biatch to find
15:52:46 <Avatar> weird
15:53:06 <Steven> well if you need anything let me know.
15:53:11 <Avatar> can you make it so it doesn't use one from google drive
15:53:13 <Philderbeast> I have one thing to check in a minute, give me a sec to add a beta.apk for you to test it with
15:53:16 <Avatar> and just uses one on the phone instead
15:53:23 <Steven> otherwise i'm going to find a way to wreck my GM's Day on this thursday
15:53:30 <Philderbeast> yea im going to add local storage in the next few days
15:53:51 <Philderbeast> mine are all on google drive so thats why i wrote that first
15:57:52 <Philderbeast> https://play.google.com/apps/testing/com.philderbeast.herolabportfolioviewer go there and opt in if you can
15:58:12 <Avatar> "sorry nothing to see here"
15:58:20 <Avatar> If you received the link to this page from someone, we recommend that you contact them for more information.
15:58:28 <Avatar> The app that you’re looking for doesn't exist
15:58:28 <Avatar> or
15:58:28 <Avatar> the app developer is not currently running a test
15:58:28 <Avatar> you are not eligible to participate in the testing programme.
15:59:44 <Philderbeast> hmmm ok then looks like i need to make a google group first let me do that
16:01:18 <Philderbeast> you should have an invite to a google group now
16:02:07 <s_gmusic> so, Iron Gods Player's Guide is out now.
16:02:18 <Steven> yup
16:02:38 <Steven> I dont think i'm going to be doing that AP...
16:02:46 <s_gmusic> why's that?
16:02:56 <Steven> lazer pistols never been my thing.
16:03:09 <s_gmusic> hm...
16:03:17 <s_gmusic> I should probably download that.
16:04:09 <Philderbeast> you should be able to sign up now avatar
16:04:22 <Avatar> same error
16:04:36 <Philderbeast> well once you accept that invite to the group
16:07:27 <Avatar> got it
16:07:52 <Philderbeast> cool you should be able to get the testing .apk though the play store now
16:08:03 <Philderbeast> once you opt in, let me know if that works for you
16:08:06 <Avatar> opted in
16:08:45 <Philderbeast> you should be able to update to the beta .apk though the store then
16:08:46 <Avatar> still greyed out
16:08:51 <Avatar> ah, not sure if it updated
16:09:39 <Avatar> I can't actually find it in the store when I do a search
16:09:43 <Philderbeast> might be best to go in to the market and see if you can force one
16:09:43 <Avatar> the only way I got it was through your link
16:10:07 <Avatar> no update in My Apps
16:11:06 <Philderbeast> yea its not going to push it out as fast as i hoped... ill email you the .apk and you can put in on the sdcard and install it from there
16:11:38 <Philderbeast> if you have something that you can open files fron the card from
16:13:42 <Avatar> yeah I use uh
16:13:48 <Avatar> ES File Manager I think it's called
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16:17:48 <Philderbeast> email sent if you can load that up and let me know if it works
16:21:08 <Avatar> give me a bit
16:21:14 <Philderbeast> thats cool,
16:21:48 <Philderbeast> if that doesn't work can you share the file with me (me email is my drive account) so i can try and replicate the issue
16:23:39 <Avatar> it's not letting me install it for some reason
16:23:56 <Avatar> I'm at the 'do you want to install an update to this existing application?' screen
16:24:03 <Avatar> the install button is there but tapping it does nothing
16:24:10 <Avatar> the cancel button next to it works
16:24:14 <Philderbeast> grumble....
16:24:22 <Philderbeast> thats ok ill try and replicate it here
16:24:45 <Philderbeast> what are you using to access google drive? the standard windows client or something else?
16:24:48 <Philderbeast> on your pc that is
16:25:04 <Avatar> chrome
16:26:21 <Philderbeast> let me try uploading it with chrome to see if that makes a diffrence
16:27:50 <Philderbeast> :( nope still cant replicate it
16:28:20 <Avatar> you should include in the description that it needs to be a .por file
16:28:38 <Avatar> and maybe what to do if it doesn't open
16:29:41 <Philderbeast> to be honest i dont really know what to tell people at the moment as i have no cause for this
16:29:47 <Philderbeast> not even a possible one at this stage
16:30:17 <Avatar> get them to send you some info
16:30:27 <Philderbeast> for some reason it looks like your phone is not seeing it as a compressed archive and that's more then just a little odd
16:30:36 <Avatar> it might be limited to my phone
16:32:17 <Philderbeast> the problem with asking for info is i dont know what to ask for
16:32:27 <Philderbeast> AFAIK this is not possible... :S
16:39:07 <Philderbeast> ill get you to share the file with me, i cant think of anyother way for me to replicate the issue
16:44:59 <Philderbeast> im presuming that in google drive its reading it as a compressed archive?
16:45:25 <Philderbeast> if not the copy on your google drive might be corrupted
16:48:10 <Philderbeast> I have also shared one of my working portfolios with you, if that doesnt work its something about your phone i need to find, if it does then its the portfolio on your google drive thats not working
16:59:43 <Philderbeast> finaly i have replicated the issue
16:59:55 <Avatar> your file is working
17:03:29 <Philderbeast> cool, looks like its an issue with that portfolio when it was uploaded to gdrive.... ill see if i can fix it as its still a valid portfolio
17:05:49 <Philderbeast> what platform was this portfolio made on out of curiosity
17:10:00 <Philderbeast> bingo got it that time
17:10:22 <Philderbeast> looks like its an error caused when you uploaded it to google drive
17:10:50 <Avatar> I put it on google drive directly via steven's email in my gmail
17:11:37 <Avatar> steven made the herolab file, I don't actually use herolab
17:11:40 <Philderbeast> hmmmm for some reason google drive didn't pick it up as a zip file from there, quick fix would be to down load it and reupload it straight to drive
17:12:02 <Avatar> no problem if it's just limited to that one file
17:12:03 <Philderbeast> but ill push a fixed .apk for it anyway so that should go out soon (tm)
17:19:37 <Philderbeast> well i have a fix out for it so that it will work once you get the update now anyway
17:20:25 <Avatar> is that going to automatically download to my phone
17:20:32 <Avatar> I don't want updates to keep coming without me knowing
17:21:05 <Philderbeast> only if you have your phone set to get updates for the application, if you do it will update just like any other application you have on there
17:21:23 <Avatar> is it set that way by default
17:21:33 <Avatar> to auto-get updates
17:22:14 <Philderbeast> I think so, its not something I control.
17:25:17 <Philderbeast> time to start testing on my phone :( its really broken on there (im presuming its working for you)
17:28:49 <Mekkis> moin.
17:29:25 <Steven> sup mekkis
17:31:20 <Philderbeast> hey
17:33:12 <Steven> was talkin to my gm for kingmaker.
17:33:41 <Steven> LoreWarden/Aldori Swordlord/NobleScion
17:35:22 <Steven> i'm gonna have skill focus like 6 times.
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17:57:13 <Damalon01> well im off for the night guys, have fun
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18:41:39 <Steven> !vchargen
18:41:40 <diebot> Steven, 14(5,4,5,3), 11(5,1,5,1), 12(4,5,1,3), 10(2,5,1,3), 6(1,3,1,2), 6(1,2,2,2)
18:41:53 <Steven> heh
18:42:01 <Steven> I love how shitty much luck is.
18:42:04 <Steven> I love how shitty much luck is.
18:42:07 <Steven> !vchargen
18:42:08 <diebot> Steven, 9(3,2,1,4), 16(1,6,5,5), 18(6,6,6,2), 16(5,4,5,6), 6(2,1,1,3), 7(3,2,2,1)
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18:44:30 <Philderbeast> Avatar: any chance you can send me a screen shot of it on your phone, its not working on mine at the moment (jsut about to start testing) and im intersted in how it looks on yours
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18:47:43 <Avatar> looks like your screenshots
18:47:48 <Avatar> hang on let me see if I can get one
18:53:05 <Avatar> any idea how to get one
18:55:05 <Philderbeast> thats cool
19:00:38 <Avatar> got it, home + power button
19:00:45 <Avatar> that was annoying
19:01:51 <Brunius> It changes with every phone for no apparent reason
19:02:00 <Brunius> mine is power and down volume
19:02:09 <Brunius> (force shutdown is power and up volume)
19:02:23 <Philderbeast> yea its a bit weird like that....
19:02:24 <Avatar> nice
19:02:31 <Philderbeast> well i just found a slightly major bug :S
19:02:33 <Avatar> my old phone was back + home I think
19:02:36 <Philderbeast> at least its easy to fix
19:03:44 <Avatar> shared
19:04:12 <Avatar> I can't figure out how to get my phone to connect to my computer so I can view media like a drive
19:04:22 <Avatar> keeps spitting out an error that sounds like it needs a driver
19:04:33 <Avatar> I've just been using airdroid in the meantime
19:04:45 <Brunius> What have you got?
19:05:02 <Philderbeast> thanks for that
19:05:03 <Avatar> galaxy note 3
19:05:07 <Philderbeast> looks nice on your phone
19:05:11 <Avatar> just got it on the weekend
19:05:15 <Philderbeast> its not to bad on mine either
19:05:38 <Philderbeast> hmmm are the ads not loading on yours? lucky you :P
19:05:47 <Avatar> yeah I have an adblocker
19:05:49 <Avatar> sorry about that :P
19:06:13 <Avatar> if it makes any difference to you, I don't actually use herolab
19:06:26 <Philderbeast> i don't really care to be honest
19:06:34 <Avatar> any money is good money aye
19:06:47 <Philderbeast> im not expecting to make anything on the app, but if i do it will be a bonus
19:06:53 <Avatar> yep
19:06:55 <Avatar> nice one
19:07:18 <Philderbeast> I have as key app to disable the ads anyway, im just trying to decide whats a reasonable price for it before I release that
19:07:40 <Philderbeast> definatly under $5.... I'm just not sure
19:08:04 <Avatar> $3ish is solid
19:08:32 <Avatar> ah, doesn't herolab have an app?
19:08:38 <Avatar> I remember seeing shaun with one
19:08:39 <Philderbeast> yea thats what im thinking, considering the price of herolab and Paizo pdf's I don't think that's to un reasonable
19:08:52 <Philderbeast> it does for iPad but not android
19:09:03 <Avatar> how much is that one
19:09:19 <Philderbeast> free, but you need a herolab licence
19:09:25 <Avatar> hah
19:09:30 <Avatar> free-ish
19:09:37 <Philderbeast> yea
19:09:43 <Avatar> then again, this needs a herolab license doesn't it
19:09:53 <Avatar> how far does free herolab extend
19:09:54 <Philderbeast> the paid version will be exactly the free version of my app, just minus the little banner ad
19:10:14 <Philderbeast> beginner box only with a few features disabled
19:10:17 <Philderbeast> not sure what to be honest
19:10:24 <Avatar> keep in mind, if you make it like 99c, people will usually click pay without even caring
19:10:31 <Avatar> with $3 they will think twice
19:10:47 <Avatar> depends how many people use it
19:11:03 <Philderbeast> yea its probably going to either be 99c or $1.99 im thinking
19:14:57 <Philderbeast> *sigh* i really wish i didnt have to push a second update tonight.... but that fix couldn't really wait :(
19:15:18 <Philderbeast> it will ask permission for it though so if its working don't bother grabbing it for now
19:15:19 <Avatar> not many people have it yet man
19:15:25 <Avatar> now is the time
19:15:31 <Philderbeast> yea i know
19:17:03 <Philderbeast> that and at least people will see that bugs are getting fixed as they are found
19:17:21 <Philderbeast> nothing worse then having a buggy app that never gets fixed
19:17:30 <Brunius> Yeah
19:28:59 <Philderbeast> ahhh much better a menu button to let you load a new portfolio without closing the app :)
19:36:31 <Philderbeast> I do have a target for what i would like to earn from the app... but I'm fairly sure $25 wont be to hard to get :P (that's the fee i had to pay to get a developer account)
19:45:32 <s_gmusic> just seen it was 4:45a. should really go to bed, but have to work on two computers for people. =_=
19:45:48 <Avatar> how much are they paying you
19:46:04 <Avatar> they would have to pay me a fortune to lose sleep, especially lots of it
19:47:37 <s_gmusic> I have sleep issues, anyway. one computer is for my dad, so I just have to see how well it does (or doesn't) work. the other is for a friend of my brother's. his main computer got stolen, so he needs this one working for his kids to use for school.
19:47:52 <s_gmusic> am I doing this for free? no. he just doesn't know it yet.
19:48:06 <Avatar> shrewd bargaining on both sides
19:48:45 <s_gmusic> and in the middle of all this, I get to deal with EA tech support because my xbox gamer tag is linked to an email I don't know about.
19:51:19 <Brunius> sounds fun
19:55:47 <s_gmusic> sure, we'll go with that.
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23:27:14 <Ulzef> hey people anyone around?
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