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44:45 * Ysjoelfir is finally home
47:03 <K> a win!
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03:33 <Ysjoelfir> yes
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06:29 <Nothing\> two crappy things about getting a kick ass new computer
06:47 <hsn> https://photos.app.goo.gl/Xpg9U8UsVAmmaKwEA
06:54 <hsn> rip covid19
07:05 <Nothing\> the fact that it takes several days before i can download something that'll even utilize the computer to its fullest extent, or anywhere near. and having to reconfigure and install everything the way i like it
09:03 <Nothing\> they just made masks mandatory here last friday
09:12 <Nothing\> yet at the same time they're starting to re-open businesses
09:27 <Nothing\> not that it matters living next to America
11:06 * Ampera bear hugs Nothing\ 
11:08 <Ampera> muh fren
11:32 * Nothing\ tackle hugs Ampera
11:36 <Nothing\> hey buddy, how's it going?
11:37 <Ampera> how do
11:40 <Ampera> it's going good
11:50 <Ampera> I made food https://amperaa.net/f/index.php?topic=718.0
11:51 <Nothing\> i'm doing well, finally got some games that can take advantage of my new computer
12:14 <Ampera> sweet
12:18 <Nothing\> mm what is that? roast beef?
12:21 <Nothing\> montreal smoked meat?
12:22 <Ampera> roast beef and corned beef
12:26 <Ampera> along with maple ham
12:35 <Nothing\> you should try montreal smoked meat if you like corned beef
12:45 <Ampera> montreal smoked meat sounds awfully generic
12:55 <Nothing\> lol it does
13:04 <Nothing\> it's just smoked beef but it's tasty
14:08 <Nothing\> why is it when a cat gets a toy stuck under a stand or something, as soon as you get it out for them they knock it right back under
14:20 <Ampera> because they're cats
14:22 <Ampera> and adorable
14:34 <Nothing\> haha good answer
14:52 <Nothing\> at least my cats haven't gotten into the habit of knocking stuff off of tables or counters just for the hell of it
15:10 <Nothing\> actually my older cat just figured out how to get up on the counter so we've been trying to train him not to
15:26 <Nothing\> it used to be the only place our food was safe in the house if we had to leave it for a moment
15:58 <Ampera> Nothing\, best advice you will ever get, a 100% effective cat deterrent is orange or lemon oil diluted in water and sprayed
15:59 <Nothing\> i left a cup of milk on the counter yesterday and left it for a moment and came back to find him drinking it
16:05 <Ampera> (in a spritz bottle)
16:17 <Nothing\> lol so i thought i'd be nice and give him a little bowl of milk for himesfl
16:20 <Ampera> cats have an aversion to citrus
16:27 <Nothing\> first thing he does is knock it over with his pow
16:42 <Nothing\> lemon oil huh? that's not a bad idea
16:50 <Nothing\> cuz smokey doesn't care at all when i spray him
17:05 <Nothing\> i can spray him till he's literally dripping and he won't care
17:31 <Nothing\> i'd just be worried about getting that mixture in their eyes
17:56 <Nero> I just read the last two statements
18:04 <Nero> I had to check that I didn´t accidentaly join some NSFW channel
18:12 <Ampera> Nothing\, my grandfather's cat is the same, lemon oil did it
18:13 <Nothing\> lol wut?
18:26 <Nothing\> Ampera, i'll have to look into it
18:31 <Nothing\> or maybe a pepper extract
18:32 <Nero> ´Spray him till hes dripping´, ´getting that in their eyes´
18:36 <Ampera> don't do pepper
18:38 <Ampera> that'll hurt them
18:39 <Nothing\> but i don't wanna mace the poor bugger
18:57 <Ampera> you don't need much oil water, just enough to get the scent everywhere
19:30 <Nothing\> lol i remember once my gimpy knees were hurting me and i was desperate for relief, and i remembered some studies i read about how injections of capsaicin can help with joint pain
19:56 <Nothing\> so i took this pepper sauce, scotch bonnets, were are basically a variety of habenero i think, close in spiciness anyways
20:02 <Nothing\> slathered the shit all over my knees
20:07 <Nothing\> oooh man did that ever burn
20:31 <Nothing\> then i tried to wash it off with warm water, that just made it even worse cuz the warm water felt like it was scalding
20:32 <Ampera> that's like drinking bleach to cure covid :P
20:49 <Nothing\> but i thought the whole situation was funny so i was laughing the whole time as i'm screaming from this burning
20:56 <Nothing\> haha basically is
20:57 * Ysjoelfir sprays desinfectant onto hsn
21:06 <Nothing\> the idea is to trigger your endorphins by causing pain
21:30 <Nothing\> the thought of actually injecting pure capsaicin like it's fucking cortisone just gives me the willies
21:45 <Nothing\> which is what they did in the one study i read
22:02 <Nothing\> hey Ysjoelfir
22:21 <Nothing\> Nero, haven't seen you in a while. how've you been man?
22:35 <Ampera> that's not the idea
22:45 <Nothing\> you know nero, talking to you is the first memory i have of this place
22:47 <Ysjoelfir> hi Nothing\
22:48 <Ampera> the idea is that it'll kill the nerve endings by being so painful it blows them out
22:50 <Ampera> afaik
23:28 <Nothing\> i was talking about the 555 and arguing with you trying to say it had op amps in it cuz i was confused by the symbol used in the diagrams i was looking at and didn't realize op amps have the same symbol as comparators
23:49 <Ampera> Nero has never been in here afaik
23:53 <Ampera> you must be thinking of AfterNET
23:58 <Nothing\> Ampera, well it was the original one
23:59 <Nothing\> yeah
24:08 <Nothing\> but still, it's basically heer
27:06 <Nothing\> i just realized all those times my mom called me a bugger playfully as a child
27:11 <Nothing\> she was calling me an ass rapist
27:51 <Nero> hehe
27:52 <Nothing\> i wonder how bugger went from serious sex crime to cutsey term of endearment
27:52 <Nero> yes
27:54 <Nero> memories
28:15 <Nothing\> it's like in prison here calling somebody a goof is one of the worst things you can call them
28:27 <Nero> I don´t know how long it has been because I have a shit sense of tiem
28:28 <Nothing\> yet it was always a term of endearment my mom used on my as a kid
28:29 <Nero> but good I guess
28:41 <Nothing\> it musta been about 2 years or so
28:43 <Nothing\> maybe more
29:00 <Nothing\> i got into electronics in october of... oh dang what was it now
29:01 <Ampera> Nothing\, is a goof an advanced fool?
29:20 <Nothing\> Ampera, i'm not even sure if it has a specific meaning in that context
29:44 <Nothing\> but it's one of the worst things you can call people next to like, variations on pedophile
30:18 <Nothing\> Nero, musta been october of 07 i start, so 08 some time we woulda first talked
30:26 <Nothing\> ehr 17 and 18
30:32 <Nero> kay makes sense
30:35 <Nothing\> stupid brain, refuses to believe another decade's passed
31:02 <Nero> damn, well, long time then
31:22 <Nothing\> indeed
32:03 <Nothing\> it's interesting how a "long time" can be tremendously different durations of time given the context
32:36 <Nero> well, I´m doing a PhD now
32:37 <Nothing\> a few seconds can be an eternity or a few years can be a drop in the bucket depending on what you're talking about
32:49 <Nothing\> nice, man! what on?
32:54 <Nero> RF electronics
32:57 <Nero> millimeter-wave stuff
32:58 <Ampera> a few seconds of my life feels like an eternity
32:58 <Nero> 100 GHz
33:10 <Nothing\> yeah i remember you were saying you worked with THZ oscillators and such
33:20 <Nero> yep
33:32 <Nothing\> actually there's a channel that does all sorts of stuff with mm wave tech i was thinking you'd like it
33:37 <Nothing\> lemme see if i can find it
33:41 <Nothing\> the signal path
33:43 <Nothing\> that's it
33:43 <Nero> yeah
33:46 <Nero> I know him :p
33:49 <Nothing\> random memory recall
33:53 <Ampera> why is the initial for oscillator 'X'
33:54 <Nero> actually, he has featured one of my designs even
33:57 <Ampera> as in OCX
34:21 <Nero> it is not. Crystal oscillators are somtimes referenced as XO, or Xtal, or just X
34:22 <Ampera> er, XO
34:25 <Ampera> for crystal oscilator
34:31 <Nero> OCXO is oven-controlled-crystal-oscillator
34:36 <Ampera> yeah I had that wrong in my mind
34:37 <Nothing\> Ampera, i figured it was because usually CX means crystal oscillator and the connection between CX and cross or criss
34:40 <Ampera> the question still standards, why X
34:51 <Ampera> and not OCCO
35:11 <Nothing\> like xmas
35:17 <Nothing\> cxo
35:22 <Nero> yes
36:01 <Nothing\> that's pretty awesome though Nero i'm glad to hear you're going all the way with your degree
36:29 <Nothing\> so you're just going full career with research then, huh?
36:35 <Nero> yes, pretty much
37:12 <Nothing\> lol my cat was just chewing on one of my notebooks on the table then went to walk away and, steped on the notebook and it slid off the table with her
37:20 <Nothing\> now the two cats are fighting over my notebook
37:38 <Ampera> you have some cute ass cats, Nothing\
37:42 <Nothing\> should probably take it from them before they destroy it
37:49 <Nothing\> haha i know, and smokey's so smart
37:58 <Nothing\> did i tell you played fetched with him a while ago
38:01 <Nothing\> actually a few times now
38:09 <Nothing\> lol he's chewing up my notes
38:12 <Nothing\> isn't that cute
38:18 <Ampera> You did, my cat Mittens used to do that
38:50 <Nothing\> yeah, they love paper
38:53 <Nothing\> of any sort
38:59 <Ampera> all of our cats do
39:22 <Nothing\> lol or cardboard tubes from bog rolls
39:45 <Nothing\> or pretty much any garbage cardboard or paper
39:52 <Nothing\> most of their toys are garbage lol
40:12 <Nothing\> it's disgusting how many toys sold commercially are unsafe
40:23 <Nothing\> like all of the stuff with craft feathers on it
40:30 <Nothing\> they fall apart/come off so easily
40:43 <Nothing\> or tiny beads for eyes and stuff that come off if you look at them wrong
41:17 <Nothing\> or just fluff and crap that comes off of them to be swallowed
41:29 <Nothing\> i'm sure the dyes are probably not too great for them
41:49 * steve30 meows at Nothing\ 
42:02 * Nothing\ mews at steve30 
43:47 <Nothing\> Ampera, it's weird, smokey was able to get effects off of catnip when he was only 3 months old
44:03 <Ampera> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
44:05 <Nothing\> i always heard they don't get affected by it until they're mature, or close to it
44:09 <Ampera> they smart cookies them kitties
44:11 <Nothing\> like 6-12 months
44:22 <Nothing\> they really are
44:48 <Nothing\> the other day smokey threw up, but he had the foresight to actually get out of my bed and do it on a blanket i put on the floor for him
45:06 <Ampera> hah
45:08 <Ampera> our cats don't do that
45:21 <Ampera> they don't puke too often, but when they do it'll be right on your face if they want it to be
45:30 <Nothing\> where i remember my old cats when they'd start yakking, you'd be there trying to slide a paper towel under them and they'd just keep running from it. completely intent on puking on the carpet
45:44 <Nothing\> that's okay, my one cat pissed on my head once
45:56 <Nothing\> she wasn't fixed and she was in heat so i think she was marking me as her own
46:19 <Nothing\> but i woke up at 2:30am to feel this warm stream on my head and just noticed the cat running away lol
46:33 <hsn> Ysjoelfir that disinfictant spray only works on my cloth .. not the creatures living inside my lungs
46:48 <Ysjoelfir> open your mouth
46:58 <Nothing\> hsn: breathe an aerosolized version of it
47:09 <Ampera> yesterday was fun
47:09 <Nothing\> put it in one of those asthma nebulizers
47:14 <Nothing\> or an ecig
47:18 <Ampera> one of our devops guys blew up an entire testing environment
47:19 <Nothing\> what'd you do yesterday Ampera ?
47:26 <Nothing\> haha wtf
47:27 <hsn> aagh
47:30 <Nothing\> how'd he do that?
47:33 <Ampera> we have a deploy script for individual sites in an environment that takes a number as an argument for which site
47:40 <Ampera> so like one site would be QA20, or whatever
48:03 <Ampera> well as it turns out, if you forgot to put that site number, and then set it to deploy, it'd deploy to the web root
48:13 <Ampera> as in instead of www/qa20 it'd go to www/
48:16 <hsn> noh .. they are living inside me peacefully
48:19 <Ampera> so the entire web directory ate shit
48:38 <Ampera> along with a bunch of other shit, because there's more than just the www dir in the deploy script
48:54 <Nothing\> man
49:04 <Ampera> which was useful, because a customer complaint (level 2 bug) came in yesterday, and there wasn't much I could do
49:08 <Nothing\> between my video and my cpu, my computer has over 10 billion processing transistors
49:14 <Ampera> today I figured out what it was, and I'm about to retest it
49:17 <Nothing\> as opposed to data storage transistors, which are nothing special
49:52 <Nothing\> i mean, it's a given that it's gonna use a few transistors for each bit of storage, though i'm not sure how many these days
50:12 <Ampera> there really aren't many transistors in storage, it's SRAM that has the transistors
50:51 <Ampera> I think DRAM tends to have one transistor per bit, though I don't know what NAND has
50:56 <Ampera> I mean if it's NAND gates I suppose that'd be transistors
51:29 <Nothing\> well for a regular old CMOS bistable switch for SRAM you need what? 4-8 transistors per bit
51:37 <Nothing\> or is it 2-4
51:48 <Nothing\> either way, when you consider that's per BIT
52:02 <Ampera> yeah and how much SRAM do you have in your system
52:04 <Nothing\> and you get say a 1000gb ssd
52:19 <Nothing\> well not even just SRAM, but any solid state memory
52:50 <Nothing\> i dunno though
52:56 <Nothing\> i'm sure there's an answer somewher
53:25 <Nothing\> i really don't feel like learning the different types of NAND storage and their architectures at the lowest level
53:27 <Nero> I think standard sram is 6 transistors
53:50 <Nothing\> Nero, i realized i was referring more to NAND storage than SRAM
55:03 <Nothing\> so the question is, how much does each bit of typical NAND storage take
55:30 <Nothing\> but i'm assuming NAND storage is probably the same architecture as SRAM more or less
56:16 <Nothing\> that reminds me, i should install logisism and paul falstad's circuit simulator
56:33 <Ampera> I don't even know the basic theory behind NAND flash at all
56:42 <Nothing\> i think logisim's been the best tool i've ever come across for this stuff
56:43 <Ampera> in my mind it's like DRAM but it sticks around
57:05 <Nothing\> Ampera, it' basically just made of bistable switches
57:25 <Nero> NAND flash is fucking witchcraft
58:00 <Nero> it´s basically a tall tower of transistors, with a floating and a controllable gate
58:01 <Ampera> Nothing\, speaking of cache, I was curious to see how much I had, I have 64MB L3, 8MB L2, 1MB L1
58:26 <Nero> And you can then see which gates you need to turn on (those are 0) in order for the tower to conduct. Everything you didn´t need to turn on was already on because of the floating gate
59:03 <Nothing\> Ampera, nice, i've got a 32mb L3 on this
59:17 <hsn> https://twitter.com/mifune/status/1284748259869810689?s=09
59:19 <Nothing\> first CPU ever with an L3 on it, believe it or not
00:01 <Nothing\> i fucking love this computer
00:08 <Nothing\> but for $2000, i better love it
00:15 <Nothing\> it's the most expensive thing i've ever bought
00:28 <Ampera> most of my machines have L3 caches iirc
00:45 <Nothing\> Ampera, yeah except the piece of shit i got sold a few months ago
01:01 <Nothing\> it's basically just a fucking laptop in an ATX case of some sort
01:06 <Ampera> what impresses me is how much RAM they're putting on phones these days
01:13 <Ampera> my phone right now has 12GB of LPDDR5
01:19 <Nothing\> so i can't even swap out the CPU, it's soldered to the board
01:41 <Nothing\> i really need to change the font
01:44 <Nothing\> or clean my glasses
01:52 <Nothing\> 12pt on 4k is way too small
02:03 <Ampera> my highest resolution display is 1920x1080
02:08 <Ampera> (on my PC)
02:16 <Ampera> I'm not a big fan of high resolution displays on PC
05:13 <Nothing\> mine's 4k
05:27 <Nothing\> but i've got a GTX 1660TI
05:35 <Nothing\> 6gb of VRAM
05:43 <Nero> nice
06:22 <Nothing\> indeed, but i think the cpu bottle necks it
06:44 <Ampera> I have a 1660Ti too, but it was a stopgap CPU to replace my aging 970
06:50 <Nothing\> ryzen 3600x at i think 3.6ghz 6 cores, 12 threads, boost speed is 4.4ghz
06:58 <Ampera> I'm going to wait for the new nvidia and AMD GPUs to come out and see what they are like
07:05 <Nothing\> lol 970
07:11 <Nothing\> my last computer had a 750 in it
07:21 <Nothing\> the guy was trying to tell me it cost $300 on its own
07:32 <Nothing\> i looked it up, the MSRP was never anywhere close to $300
07:36 <Nothing\> it's a fucking entry level card
07:37 <Ampera> While I doubt it, I want to hold out the chance that the new AMD GPUs will match or beat nvidia
07:42 <Ampera> because nvidia drivers are hogwash
07:52 <Nothing\> the who sold me my computer was so full of shit
08:12 <Nothing\> when we were just shooting the shit i told him was tearing down some microwaves for parts
08:24 <Nothing\> so he warns me that microwaves are radioactive inside
08:45 <Nothing\> i wasn't even gonna try to correct him
09:20 <Ampera> microwaves sometimes have magnetrons with beryllium in them, which can fuck you up
09:28 <Nothing\> yeah i know about that
09:33 <Ampera> but don't fuck with the magnetron and no problems
09:37 <Nothing\> but he meant full on radioactive
09:46 <Nothing\> he had no clue what a magnetron or beryllium were
10:04 <Nothing\> but actually, not all magnetron antennas are made with beryllium oxide
10:17 <rust_collector> most are not
10:19 * Ampera gives T3sl4 a pack of apple and radium flavored gum
10:22 <Ampera> all natural flavorings
10:34 <Ampera> Nothing\, I said sometimes
10:43 <Nothing\> Ampera, lol i hate people who think natural means safer or better
11:00 <Nothing\> i tell them, "well, uranium's natural. would you put uranium in your body?"
11:06 <Nothing\> or asbestos
11:06 <Ampera> it does because GMOs are communist viruses made by obama
11:13 <Nothing\> or petroleum
11:36 <Ampera> I yearn for the days when artificial flavours were neat and cool
11:55 <Nothing\> ugh i started smoking pot again 3 weeks ago and i'm just now starting to hack and cough up all sorts of black crap
12:04 <Nothing\> sure didn't take long to get to this point
12:15 <Nothing\> Ampera, i don't think that'll ever happen
12:24 <Ampera> Nothing\, then cut that shit out
12:27 <Nothing\> especially in the EU with their scary sounding E numbers
12:38 <Nothing\> yeah i would like to stop smoking
12:46 <Nero> I much prefer the E-numbers over the system in the US
12:47 <Ampera> then stop
12:48 <Nero> but that is just me
12:49 <Nothing\> it's too expensive to keep up anyways
12:55 <Ampera> Nero, what system is that
13:06 <Ampera> we usually put chemicals on our ingredient lists instead of E numbers
13:08 <Nothing\> Nero, i admit it makes things a HELL of a lot easier to make heads or tails of
13:31 <Nothing\> Nero, but to the general public, an E number sounds a lot scarier than a lot of the regular names
14:01 <rust_collector> really?
14:26 <Nothing\> i'm just talking in general
14:44 <Nero> perhaps. it´s hard for me to say, since I have always had this no fear of chemicals and so on
15:03 <Nothing\> yeah it's hard to put yoursefl in their shoes sometimes
15:20 <Nothing\> especially being that they're so unpredictable
17:06 <Nothing\> oh damn
17:14 <Nothing\> xchat had me on pt 9 font, not 12
17:32 <Nothing\> no wonder everything looked so tiny. since when is that the default for xchat?
17:57 <Ampera> why are you using xchat?
18:16 <Ampera> heck, don't you have to pay for the Windows build of xchat?
18:23 <Nothing\> nope
18:32 <Nothing\> and cuz it's better than mirc
18:33 <Ampera> maybe it's so old they don't bother
18:44 <Ampera> but xchat is ancient, there's no reason to use it instead of hexchat
18:44 <Nothing\> oh yeah i forgot about xchat 2
18:47 <Nothing\> yeah
18:50 <Ampera> xchat 2?
18:52 <Ampera> what
18:52 <Nothing\> or hexchat
18:54 <Nothing\> that's it
19:06 <Nothing\> xchat 2 was the version that cost money
19:55 <Nothing\> wow
20:13 <Nothing\> 12Gbps speed on the memory on my video card
20:20 <Ampera> pretty slow
20:29 <Ampera> they make network cards faster than that
20:35 <Nero> I have no idea if that is fast
20:36 <Nothing\> why's it need that much speed if it's just 6gb of memory
20:43 <Ampera> because it's not
20:53 <Nothing\> Ampera, yeah but we're not transferring data across a network
21:02 <Nothing\> just through a local bus on a computer
21:24 <Ampera> exactly
21:32 <Ampera> it's slow
22:42 <Ampera> Nothing\, to put it into perspective, my main SSD has a max seq write of 35.2Gbps
22:57 <Ampera> 40gbps max seq read
23:00 <Nothing\> Ampera, the gtx 20 series has a memory speed of 14000-15500
23:07 <Nothing\> so it's not THAT slow
23:19 <Nothing\> and iirc 20 series is their most recent
23:20 <Nero> are you sure it´s not GB
23:30 <Ampera> ^
23:31 <Nothing\> it is
23:51 <Ampera> so then it's 96Gbps, which sounds about right
23:57 <Nothing\> wait
24:05 <Ampera> 1 bytes = 8 bits
24:07 <Nothing\> that's MT/s on the 20 series
24:08 <Nothing\> my bad
24:16 <Ampera> MT/s requires bit width to make sense
25:07 <Ampera> if it's a 256 bit memory bus, then that's 480Gbps
25:12 <Nothing\> 8000MT/s on the 1660ti
25:22 <Ampera> (for 15GT/s)
25:36 <Ampera> yeah but MT/s is meaningless
25:46 <Nothing\> yeah i'm not even familiar with it
25:53 <Ampera> that could be anywhere from 8Gbps to infinity
26:02 <Ampera> MT/s is mega-transfer per second
26:13 <Nothing\> that's what i figured
26:14 <Ampera> it's easy to visualize with a slower parallel bus like PCI or ISA
26:27 <Ampera> 32-bit PCI (usually) operates at 33MT/s
26:28 <Nothing\> brbr
26:43 <Nero> Aren´t GDDR busses ilke 512bit or higher?
26:43 <Ampera> which means 33 million times per second, 32 bits are transferred across the bus
26:50 <Ampera> Nero, depends on it
27:00 <Nero> Just don´t beat my speedrecords and Iḿ happy
27:28 <Ampera> looking it up the 1660Ti has a 192-bit bus
27:52 <Ampera> though this site says "memory clocks" is 12Gbps
28:06 <Ampera> so maybe that's not a great source, as you don't measure clock rates in transfer speed
28:56 <Nero> 12GHz clocks also seem a bit extreme for consumer memory
28:59 <Ampera> this site says 1500mhz, and 12000mhz effective
29:02 <Ampera> whatever the fuck that means
29:34 <Ampera> but then also states the memory bandwidth is 288 GB/s, which sounds excessive
30:15 <Ampera> alright now that's even more confusing
30:32 <Nero> could it be that it´s like 8 chips, running at 1.5 GHz, and for some reason they feel like you can just make that be 12 GHz then
30:35 <Ampera> nvidia themselves say the memory speed is 12Gbps, but the memory bandwidth is 288GB/s
30:58 <Nero> typical marketing not knowing their units apart
32:40 <MrMobodies> i see they just add it up.
33:02 <MrMobodies> like with some power banks
33:13 <Ampera> Nero, it's literally four inches apart on the spec sheet
33:30 <Ampera> https://prnt.sc/to1czv
34:47 <Ampera> Nero, I think I figured it out, that 12Gbps should be GT/s
34:54 <Nero> I think so
34:57 <Ampera> because if you do 12 * 192 you get 288/8
36:40 <MrMobodies> oh they mixed the two units up.
37:46 <Ampera> I mean, really simplistically, Gbps is kinda close to GT/s, but with GT/s it's assumed it's the entire bus per second
38:08 <Ampera> Gbps is technically true, if you mean how fast is each line in the bus
40:53 <Nero> gbps is not even really close to GT/s, becasue they probably transfer on the rising and falling edge
43:10 <Ampera> Nero, while I don't disagree, the number would be the same
43:17 <Ampera> it's the clock rate that would be different
43:21 <Nero> yea
43:24 <Ampera> as in DDR @ 40Mhz = 80MT/s
05:26 Quit: Nothing\ ([email protected]) Quit: Leaving
06:47 * T3sl4 big-ol'-hugs Ampera
07:03 * Ampera hugs T3sl4 back
07:13 <T3sl4> :)
07:16 * Ampera smacks T3sl4 with the FOTD: https://amperaa.net/f/index.php?topic=718.0
07:22 * T3sl4 licks it
09:45 <MrMobodies> I like the roast potato wedges.
10:08 <Ampera> MrMobodies, the homefries?
10:21 <Ampera> Yeah they're pretty good, I've got the process down pretty well so I can spit them out within about 40 minutes
11:19 <MrMobodies> the cooked ham looks nice in bread
11:29 <MrMobodies> and it's thick sliced too
12:12 <Ampera> MrMobodies, it is, reasonably so
12:31 <Ampera> MrMobodies, T3sl4 https://amperaa.net/f/index.php?topic=717.0 This was the FOTD from two days ago
12:46 <T3sl4> :)
13:22 <T3sl4> i haven't made anything substantial in a little while, just chicken thighs, salads, and yesterday i got taco bell *shrug*
13:33 <MrMobodies> I have seen similar thing advertised, I didn't much but I know quality when I see it
13:39 <MrMobodies> I could gobble all those down quickly
13:57 <MrMobodies> the potato fries look good
14:05 <Ampera> they are
14:47 <MrMobodies> what the round things with the holes in them
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14:55 <Ampera> MrMobodies, bagels
15:14 <T3sl4> you dont recognize bagels?
15:16 <T3sl4> my dude
15:20 <MrMobodies> I have seen them in supermarkets but those look a lot better
15:26 <MrMobodies> I forget words easily
15:29 <Ampera> They're bagged bagels, not fresh ones
15:38 <MrMobodies> they still look good
15:43 <Ampera> they are
15:49 <Ampera> they are onion bagels specifically
15:57 <T3sl4> bagged are okay after toasting, still not as good as fresh of course
16:08 * T3sl4 creams Ampera with cheese
16:16 <MrMobodies> I think later tonighjt I'l lfry up some eggs
16:17 <Ampera> T3sl4, those were toasted. Not fresh for obvious reasons
16:54 <T3sl4> it's not like there's an ongoing natural disaster that caused most of NY to shut down last month
17:01 <MrMobodies> Now I am going try making the potato's some day
17:17 <Ampera> T3sl4, what natural disaster would that be
17:20 <T3sl4> guessing the potatoes are, cut wedges, spread on sheet with oil, salt and herbs?
17:36 <Ampera> they're not fresh because fresh bagels require going to the store at time of use
17:37 <MrMobodies> I can visualise that which is why I am going to try and make it
17:46 <Ampera> which is a bit more than my 90 minute lunch budget allows
18:10 <Ampera> the homefries are cubed potatoes baked on a sheet with olive oil, goya adobo (seasoned salt), black pepper, onion powder, and paprika
18:17 <T3sl4> 90 minutes? this guy thinks he's fuckin royalty
18:29 <Ampera> I will also say, what and how things were made are actually in those forum posts
19:02 <MrMobodies> just written the ingredients down
19:31 <MrMobodies> and yes I am hoping it's going to be royalty when they're finished.
19:49 <Ampera> T3sl4, officially I have an hour
19:54 <Ampera> unofficially, shut the fuck up
19:55 <MrMobodies> if they turn out good i'll post some pictures
19:57 <T3sl4> ;)
15:32 <Ysjoelfir> So... I wanted to install PowerDVD. went to their website, downloaded the tool. noticed that its only a downloader which I downloaded to download the tool itself. ok. nevermind. openend that shitbucket. It tells me that it needs to download a new downloader to download the tool, which it will now download automatically. ok. downloaded the downloader to download a tool using the downloader I originally thought would be the tool itself.
15:37 <Ysjoelfir> I hate this shit
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18:11 <Ysjoelfir> and while installing that fucking POS it somehow also crashed my PC, wtf!
31:00 * Ysjoelfir throws his keyboard through the window
32:10 * hsn get hit by keyboard and starts cursing
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53:32 <Ysjoelfir> 0:-)
57:03 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, what on earth would you need PowerDVD for
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58:19 <Ysjoelfir> to play a blu ray
58:25 <Ampera> have you tried VLC?
58:25 <Ysjoelfir> a protected one
58:32 <Ysjoelfir> yes. doesn't play BD
58:37 <Ysjoelfir> at least not a protected one
59:16 <Ampera> ask jspiros about that actually (in AfterNET)
59:24 <Ampera> he could get you on the right track to figuring out how on earth to do that
04:58 <Ysjoelfir> nah, I'm lazy. it seems to work now and since I nearly never watch movies anyway....
34:18 <rust_collector> morning!
34:30 <hsn> morning there
34:33 <hsn> rusty
41:24 <rust_collector> so, it is weekend, and the work just keeps pouring in. I have to start to say no to people
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08:46 <hsn> start with me rusty
08:54 <rust_collector> no!
08:55 <hsn> say u hate me
08:58 <hsn> :)
09:07 <rust_collector> yeh, that was nice, thanks
09:14 <rust_collector> nah, why?
09:21 <hsn> ^ no
09:28 <rust_collector> If I even meet you, I will spank you
10:02 <hsn> im using ur "no excercise" to give my self selfsteem confidence whatever its called
10:07 <hsn> https://snipboard.io/bn2KCj.jpg
10:37 <hsn> do u like my disclaimer ? say it
10:56 <rust_collector> it is full of text, what does it say?
11:05 <hsn> it says
11:22 <hsn> whatever u want me to do .. might not work .. and im not responsible
11:43 <hsn> and im free to share screenshots in my portfolio
11:45 <rust_collector> that was much more efficient...
12:19 <hsn> xD
12:30 <rust_collector> if you want to hide what you say, go for the google version, and have a 93 page disclaimer
12:31 <hsn> go enjoy ur weekend
12:58 <rust_collector> nah, this weekend will suck
13:05 <hsn> nah im not trying to hide stuff .. im crystal clear ..
13:17 <hsn> u can meth me
14:27 <rust_collector> oh, I quit doing drugs, so I don't have a dealer any more
15:22 <hsn> just sniff me im crystal
15:35 <hsn> and then enjoy the suckness of the weekend
30:24 <Halcyon> Morning all
30:38 <rust_collector> yes
30:42 <Halcyon> Argh, I am still tempted to bid on this: https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Sharp-PC-7000-Vintage-Luggable-XT-Computer/254657027178
30:57 <rust_collector> do you have to?
31:02 <Halcyon> No?
31:07 <rust_collector> just do it
31:54 <Halcyon> The IBM compatibility is nice though. I already have an XT-based machine, but it's an Amstrad and it's kind of DOS compatible
37:11 <hsn> hi there Halcyon how is ur day
37:47 <steve30> hi Halcyon
38:00 <Halcyon> Hey guys
38:02 <Halcyon> I just woke up
39:08 <steve30> I spent the afternoon at fetish-guy's house. He showed me some of the projects he's working on at work. We also took a look at one of his Raspberry Pis.
39:12 <hsn> enjoy ur day then ,, gn its 1:40am here
39:31 <Halcyon> Oh nice, what else did you guys get up to? ;-)
39:36 <Halcyon> Night hsn
39:46 <steve30> Drinking coffee :p
40:01 <Halcyon> Through a hose up your bum? :P
40:21 <steve30> Nah, that would be a waste of good coffee
40:28 <Halcyon> Heh
40:29 * steve30 prefers his coffee in a mug
40:50 <Halcyon> Well that's disappointing :P Rather a generic day at the fetish household
43:16 <steve30> I was feeling crap yesterday, so it was nice to get out somewhere and chat to someone
44:33 <Halcyon> Aw :)
44:38 <Halcyon> You know you can always call me
51:26 * steve30 curls up on Halcyon's lap
51:55 <Halcyon> Bahaah this guy who is selling a beige box 486 SX33 with 16MB RAM on ebay for $4000 won't budge on price.
52:09 <Halcyon> Even brand new, that machine was barely half that price.
57:53 <rust_collector> eeh.
58:03 <rust_collector> what does that have to do with anything?
59:00 <Halcyon> Computers aren't like wine, they don't get better with age and their value, generally falls significantly and doesn't recover. The only exception to this are some models of well-known (or super rare) brands.
59:12 <Halcyon> Not generic machines built using off-the-shelf parts
59:36 <rust_collector> but, wine is horrible?
59:48 <Halcyon> Some wine is yes, just like shitty computers
00:01 <Halcyon> Some wine is horrible the day you buy it
00:19 <Halcyon> Just like Apple products made anytime in the last 20 years :P
00:40 <rust_collector> i should try some wine one day, it has been a long time
01:20 <Halcyon> Heh you don't just "try" wine. You literally have to try all the different varietals to find one you might like and even then the taste varies considerably between vintages and brands.
02:01 <rust_collector> well, I can just not try it... that is an option
02:17 <Halcyon> I guess it's like beer? Just because you drink beer, you generally stick to a small handful of types/flavours
02:37 <Halcyon> Oh you can if you want, I'm just saying, don't write it off after one or two tastes. It's not a fair representation.
05:59 <Halcyon> Oh gawd, why are these nutjobs who believe COVID-19 is a "scam" making news?
06:09 <Halcyon> They need to undergo a mental health assessment if anything
06:29 * steve30 fires some 5Gs at Halcyon 
07:08 <Halcyon> Oh don't even start Steve, one of their claims is that 5G and COVID-19 is forcing us into a cashless society, that's the Government's whole motive.
07:28 <rust_collector> that makes sense
07:29 <Halcyon> It has nothing to do with the fact that most people just don't use cash because it's inconvenient.
08:03 <rust_collector> oh you modern people....
08:32 <Halcyon> In Australia last year, just over 25% of all payments were cash.
08:50 <Halcyon> A total of 16% were over the value of %50
08:51 <Halcyon> $50
08:55 <steve30> Did you stop any coronaviruses last week when you were away?
09:16 <Halcyon> No idea Steve, we don't conduct testing. My crew's were just checking permits.
09:47 <rust_collector> you have to have a permit to be sick down there?
10:40 <Halcyon> No you have to have a permit to cross the state border into the state I live in
10:51 * steve30 needs a hair cut
11:10 <Halcyon> Then depending on the type of permit you have and where you have been you may or may not need to self-isolate for 14 days.
18:04 <Halcyon> Oh wow, the guy from Technology Connections has the gayest looking car
18:35 <rust_collector> he has an old prius?
18:48 <Halcyon> Nissan Figaro
18:49 <steve30> I have wondered if he is gay
18:59 <Halcyon> I reckon he is
19:06 <rust_collector> wow, I have never seen a real one of those
19:13 <steve30> Does your gaydar beep when you watch his videos?
19:27 <Halcyon> Yep, it goes off
19:34 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6xKHvhRz1w
23:39 <rust_collector> heh, so it is an import, it looks like. did you get those cars there?
23:42 <steve30> i should probably go to bed
24:11 <Halcyon> In Australia? I don't think so, I'd never heard of them.
24:24 <Halcyon> Aww night Steve
24:33 <rust_collector> good night
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24:43 <Halcyon> I think any we had here would have been privately imported
24:44 <rust_collector> no, I think they might be japan only
24:51 <rust_collector> yes
25:01 * steve30 meows at Halcyon 
25:32 <rust_collector> at least that one seems to be, with the emergency flare and all
25:39 <steve30> You should come and pet me to sleep
25:50 <Halcyon> Heavy petting? :P
57:23 <rust_collector> I am not sure why, but there is something satisfying about these little videos:https://imgur.com/gallery/nDuBX2V
58:47 <Halcyon> Hahaha
59:05 <Halcyon> That would fucking hurt, if not fuck your back up
59:24 <rust_collector> yes. bad days for that guy
01:50 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: NEW EEVblog Video! EEVblog #1323 - PCB Layout Review & Analysis https://t.co/2ao7hoXpEq
18:57 <Halcyon> Heh: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIheljR398g
24:59 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: I got to the holy grail of triple digit thumbs up without a single serial hater thumbs down! They must all be sleeping. https://t.co/LT2QU3dMeP
29:53 <rust_collector> that is a great program.
43:45 <rust_collector> I wonder if you can order a car without a radio
05:42 <Halcyon> I doubt it?
06:03 <Halcyon> What annoys me more are cars where you can't turn off the LCD while driving. It's so distracting.
07:04 <Halcyon> I turn all my dash lights down to almost minimum at night
07:40 <rust_collector> and warning lights. those are annoying. it is ok, but then you press the "ok" button, it does not have to wait 30 seconds, and turn the light back on again
07:52 <Halcyon> Warning lights?
08:02 <Halcyon> Like, seatbelts?
08:25 <rust_collector> well, like abs, or engine, or... whatever
08:35 <Halcyon> Heheh I like how you just ignore those :P
08:50 <Halcyon> "Ah it's just an oxygen sensor, she'll be right"
08:56 <Halcyon> You sure you aren't Aussie?
09:21 <rust_collector> I have been hardened by 15 years in a volvo, if they do not have a warning light on the dash, it has probably got a dead battery
09:32 <Halcyon> Hahaha
09:54 <Halcyon> I have to admit, the Volvo's even these days are pretty unobtrusive
10:15 <Halcyon> I jump into some of our work cars and there is a light or a bing/bong for everything
10:25 <rust_collector> yep
10:35 <Halcyon> When we had a Subaru it would just randomly make all these noises. It's off-putting
10:55 <Halcyon> I don't need to be told about anything unless something is wrong, or it's going to potentially injure me or someone else
11:02 <rust_collector> well, the bright warnings is annoying at night.
11:36 <rust_collector> I am ok with it telling me there is an issue, but when I clear it, it can stay off until at least the next time I start it, or something
11:58 <Halcyon> Their stupid eye-sight system was especially annoying. It would warn too soon about frontal collisions and whenever you were facing the sun, the system would drop in and out because it couldn't see anything.
12:19 <MrMobodies> I have noticed new cars and their brighter dashboard lcd lights
12:25 <Halcyon> I don't know why Subaru in their wisdom went with an optical only solution
12:27 <rust_collector> try it with a pile of snow on the sensor
12:51 <MrMobodies> I have an old car and the lights seem okay even in the dark
13:31 <Halcyon> I like the Volvo, the "minimum" setting is almost too dark. But in some cars, like Kia, minimum isn't low enough for me. Particularly on country roads where it's dark as fuck
13:33 <MrMobodies> some of the LED bulbs on cars and buses are so bright I see them in my peripheral vision in daylight and I have put the flap down
14:15 <Halcyon> Anyway I'm going to the shops, back soon
14:36 <rust_collector> going to bed, good night..in the shop
14:46 <MrMobodies> oh night
35:59 <T3sl4> holy shit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54nAOaEe_Fw
58:18 <Halcyon> He's cute T3sl4
20:43 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: The Algorithm™ loves this old video from 2018. 137k views in the last month. https://t.co/nkwrBKKJxO
07:09 <Halcyon> I'm contemplating a nap
08:04 <ibiza> Michael Rainey was ill, the Day the Earth stood still, But he told us where we stand
20:07 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Haven't seen a scammer like this on Youtube comments before. Obviously a script with multiple astroturfing accounts setup to comment and thumbs up the scam post. https://t.co/Fqv8i5AOue
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49:44 * Nero_ spots another thread on the forum where decoupling capacitance is brought up
49:50 <Nero_> I´m just gonna take a back seat and get out the old popcorn
50:00 <Nero_> wait why would I get out the old popcorn
50:07 <Nero_> I will get out new popcorn
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08:19 <Ysjoelfir> mornings
08:25 <Nero_> it´s 11
11:15 <Ysjoelfir> yes.
11:23 <Ysjoelfir> Thats pretty right
15:31 <watcher> that morning
21:44 <Ysjoelfir> no, not that one.
23:17 <Nero_> oh the other one
23:19 <Nero_> I see.
23:29 <Nero_> I don´t like this trend in RF instruments of having embedded filters
23:38 <Nero_> makes my life reverse-engineering them a heck of a lot harder
27:18 <Ysjoelfir> haha :D why would you even embed them? more money selling them as an addon, no?
27:29 <Nero_> nah, I meant within the PCBs
28:28 <Nero_> like, distributed element filters. You used to always see them on the top, but these days, with better simulation tools, and the push for smaller PCBs and systems, you see them integrated into the stackups (so you put them on a metal layer in the center of the PCB instead of on the top or bottom layer)
30:24 <Nero_> it also has the benefit of being a bit smaller because the electrical length is shorter when wrapped in dielectric. And you have a bit more isolation
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33:35 <Nero_> It really is crazy what they can do these days on a single board
33:59 <Nero_> the architectures that used to require lots of dedicated components connected with rigid coax, in 3-4 cards, now all done on a single PCB, with higher performance
50:00 <Ysjoelfir> yeah, that sounds very crazy :D
50:14 * Ysjoelfir is occupied by SWMBO who wants to order food
03:39 <steve30> hi
03:59 <Ysjoelfir> hi steve30
05:18 <watcher> hi
25:09 <Nero_> Sometimes I really like to go back to Shahriars old videos and rewatch them, and realize a) how much I forgot and b) how much more I understand now that I have more experience
25:38 * steve30 hugs Ysjoelfir 
29:53 <Ysjoelfir> hehe :D Yeah, thats always nice.
30:01 * Ysjoelfir pets steve30
32:52 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: You Had One Job!: For Sale: Star Wars TIE Fighter chassis. Needs cab and hyperdrive, serious offers only, no low ballers I know what I have. May trade for a late model At-At. https://t.co/SOsaVzteJF
33:36 <Nero_> okay that´s it, I´m ignoring that EEVBlog thing
35:43 <Nero_> yall wanna see some p0rn (don´t worry it´s not actual p0rn Iḿ not an idiot) https://imgur.com/zAN2evq
35:51 <Nero_> 110 GHz <3
50:47 <rust_collector> HEY! that is not exactly safe for home! how about a better warning?
51:10 <Nero_> :p
52:22 <Nero_> I actually know the guys who did the digital DSP side of that ADC
52:34 <Nero_> Their office is quite close to my place of work
52:41 <rust_collector> Ok, it it time to make some dinner for breakfast
53:04 <rust_collector> oh, community fun
55:07 <Nero_> Still can´t get over the fact that they wire-bond everything
00:30 <coppice> Nero_: conversion is easy. these days the biggest problem with achieving these speeds is actually being able to absorb the storm of results coming from the converter
01:02 <Nero_> nah, I´d say the challeng is clockalignment
01:39 <Nero_> Esp to get the ENOB keysight got in their UXR, you need some damn low jitter
01:48 <Nero_> that and the first SaH
01:56 <coppice> that's not easy, but building an architecture than can absorb the results is a nightmare
02:22 <Nero_> Yeah but that is the digital guy´s problem :p I just pretend they can just copyy-paste their VHDL and call it a day
03:14 <Nero_> I seem to recall that they have to do some crazy stuff with the memory too, getting the throughput they need
03:32 <coppice> but its not just the digital guy's problem. the close coupling required by anything which can absorb and process those samples made the back end a huge problem for the front end
04:33 <Nero_> You mean like matching? that is true. Huge efforst going into matching and calibration of these massive wide time-interleaved ADCs/DACs
04:49 <Nero_> But I don´t do baseband so I don´t really know anything anyways
06:00 <coppice> you can find a few nice slide sets on the web where people go into architecting things like this. There are interesting designs around
06:37 <Nero_> coppice, yeah, I know. Some colleagues of mine do wide time-interleaved ADCs. not 256 GSa/s, but not that far off.
08:03 <Nero_> I think the mixer-based stuff is really cool (though you could argue that hard SaH is a zero-IF mixer type thing) but there seem to be a lot of issues with alignment and phase
09:42 <coppice> Nero_: and a lot of those issues require tighter and tighter integration to keep everything at a common temperature. its all very messy
10:38 <Nero_> coppice, you can fix some of the alignment issues and so on by dithering your interleaved converters
10:42 <Nero_> don´tknow the propper term
11:08 <Nero_> but like, instead of doing a-b-c-d-a-b-c-d randomly switchign so say a-c-d-b-c-a-d-b etc
11:27 <Nero_> because any mismatch then becomes wideband noise instead of a narrowband spur
11:53 <Ysjoelfir> But the bot is funny, Nero_ :D and your porn is great!
12:06 <Ysjoelfir> also, hi rusty
14:14 <rust_collector> hoiaaa
19:36 <Nero_> fuck you EID installer
19:43 <Nero_> you don´t get to just close all my browser windows without asking me
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59:50 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir, have you had a tivoo?
00:03 <Ysjoelfir> a what?
00:46 <rust_collector> yes. it seems to be a mini tv, for displaying messages? but when I look it up, the links talk about speakers... I dunno?
01:47 <rust_collector> https://www.divoom.com/product/tivoo.html
02:12 <Ysjoelfir> that looks cute. but.... erm.. what is it
02:22 <Ysjoelfir> "Pixel art speaker"
02:59 <Nero_> what is the purpose
03:28 <Ysjoelfir> looks like a.... novelty speaker that looks kinda cute
08:12 <Ysjoelfir> I am soooooo tired x.x
08:31 <rust_collector> I should find some pants
09:13 <rust_collector> And get back to working on the van.
09:34 <rust_collector> i "sold" it yesterday, so that is nice
09:43 <Nero_> do you oftne find yourself in a situation where you need to actively put effort into finding pants
09:54 <rust_collector> yes
09:56 <Ysjoelfir> the red one?
10:00 <rust_collector> yep
10:17 <Ysjoelfir> I should go to the volvo and replace the alternator. got a cheap old one that doesn't squeak.
10:27 <Ysjoelfir> and to the BMW and replace the tires
10:36 <Ysjoelfir> so your friend didn'Ät want the van?
11:06 <rust_collector> it was never mine, but we put it in my name, just to get it off the previous owners name. so yes, it is wifes friends van
12:07 <Ysjoelfir> ah, ok
12:36 <rust_collector> but I still have to put it together, lol
13:25 <rust_collector> today it is the jack point on the passenger front, and maybe the hole in the sliding door. then turn it around, and start on the other side
13:52 <rust_collector> which looks worse, but it should be fairly easy to fix
15:48 <rust_collector> after the body is complete again, i guess it needs a clutch, and maybe I should look at the scv, maybe I can take it apart and clean it up, just in case
17:56 <coppice> "after the body is complete again" sounds a bit Frankenstein
18:15 <rust_collector> yep
18:26 <rust_collector> it is missing parts around the edges
21:35 <Ysjoelfir> you should call it "Frankenonion"
21:47 <Ysjoelfir> Or Frankenløk if you wish
38:23 <rust_collector> so, I was looking at chainsaws yesterday. there is a small husky that is very very cheap, I might get one. it is just for stuff around the house...
39:57 <rust_collector> but... eeh, it is small
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