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00:16:57 <rust_collector> my usual supplier is out of 0.7mm sheet metal. very strange
00:17:57 <rust_collector> and annoying
00:19:09 <DHess_US> Not surprising. The current disruption in supply chains is growing and spreading.
00:19:42 <DHess_US> Grocers for instance had shortages months ago because of high demand. Now they are shortages because of low supply.
00:43:11 <hsn> hey i ve stupid tesla coil question ... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tesla_coil_circuit.svg .. why there is earth/gnd on L2 .. wouldnt it be safer if u isolate it from earth?
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01:16:15 <DHess_US> hsn, notice C2? The bottom needs to be tied to earth, and I always grounded the primary and the secondary, because if it floats then C2 isn't connected and sparks will come off of the bottom.
01:16:46 <DHess_US> C2 is the capacitance from the top hat to Earth ground, so the bottom of the winding needs to be coupled to Earth ground somehow.
01:17:04 <hsn> oh right
01:17:18 <DHess_US> You could make a differential secondary and I think some high voltage generators did that.
01:18:12 <hsn> differential secondary would have sparks "non randomly" but most likly showing u going for tip to tip right ?
01:18:47 <DHess_US> As a practical matter, if the bottom isn't directly attached to ground somehow, it will generate a spark to ground anyway. At 100s of thousands of volts, it is amazing what becomes a conductor.
01:19:37 <hsn> right .. and i didnt get why u do connect primary ?
01:19:42 <hsn> as wel
01:19:42 <hsn> l
01:19:45 <DHess_US> The ones I've seen used large globes or toroids off of the end to prevent sparks.
01:20:10 <DHess_US> In practice you would but you don't really have to.
01:20:45 <DHess_US> But the secondary needs to be Earth grounded somehow.
01:20:59 <DHess_US> Unless you do a differential design, which is special purpose.
01:21:03 <hsn> i would love to know "why i would in practice" ... like what pros would it give ?
01:21:28 <DHess_US> And even a differential design probably Earth grounds the center.
01:22:01 <hsn> like in my mind if i gounded the primary it becomes dangerous .. if i leave it .. at least its safe to touch ...
01:22:23 <hsn> leave it floating ^
01:22:42 <DHess_US> It keeps the primary side from floating around. If there was a short from secondary to primary, I wouldn't want raising of the primary side voltage to rise high enough to breakdown somewhere else.
01:23:17 <hsn> i see .. now it make sense
01:23:35 <hsn> how would i get "this mentality" of safety ? :P
01:26:11 <hsn> also when do i ve to fear from "X-rays, UV, burns, what else?" ... or someone in my level shouldnt start playing with them ?
01:28:13 <hsn> i mean i dont know which tesla coil will generate which "em wave" and how bad is it .. etc .... all i know (uv is dangerous) .. (uvc+ dangouros + ozone danger) .. lower frequencies are just sensible heat ..
01:30:27 <hsn> lol : https://youtu.be/7nFCSJABigA
01:31:22 <hsn> these people dont need eye protection ?
01:54:41 <Ysjoelfir> mornings
02:10:18 <DL3CE> hmm
02:10:35 <DL3CE> I wonder if I have misunterstood "Sort: Price, ascending"
02:11:44 <DL3CE> https://www.dropbox.com/s/tsq5nj8t1iaxj56/iwonder.png?dl=0
02:20:14 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, morning ?
02:32:51 <steve30> evening
02:44:14 <Ysjoelfir> more or less morning for me, hsn, yes. came back with the motorcycles at roughly 3 in the morning. I feel so dead..
02:44:32 <Ysjoelfir> hi steve30
02:47:46 * steve30 wonders whether to go to bed
02:48:22 * Ysjoelfir grabs onto steve30
02:48:27 <Ysjoelfir> go on, I join
02:48:31 * Ysjoelfir gets dragged along
02:48:43 <rust_collector> steve30, do you think about much else? I mean, except for cute boys in that bed
02:48:51 <steve30> hehe :p
02:49:06 <steve30> I think about coffee
02:49:44 <rust_collector> for some time, I was wondering if the ac guy was cute, and you planted weird faults, and hid parts from him, to make him come back
02:50:19 <Ysjoelfir> rust_collector https://www.tigerhome.de/uploads/post-24-1303227155.jpg (the first text says: To differenciate a moto guzzi from a BMW its helpfull to use a stick of dynamite)
02:50:31 <Ysjoelfir> i thought the same about the ac guy btw
02:50:53 <steve30> Nah.
02:51:07 <steve30> The apprentice was cute though. I think Halcyon would have liked him.
02:51:16 <rust_collector> that is true, about the prototype ural, and other kinds of bikes
02:59:47 <Ysjoelfir> I'll be in the garage later, I might take a few pics of that project BMW I own now
02:59:54 <Ysjoelfir> if you're interested that is
03:00:05 <rust_collector> sure.
03:00:28 <rust_collector> I was just reminded of a series in one swedish magazine, in the 90's probably
03:00:50 <rust_collector> I can not find them, but it is this guy, and bike: https://www.backstreetheroes.com/2017/12/04/volvos-on-two-wheels/
03:02:22 <Ysjoelfir> that is a pretty sexy bike
03:04:53 <rust_collector> I think a big heavy crank like the b20, would make it a nice smooth running thing. not to mention it being a flathead, with almost no compression, lol.
03:06:12 <Ysjoelfir> I might try to crank the bmw this evening. but one of the carburetors is overflowing, so.....
03:06:48 <rust_collector> that should not be a huge issue. it is not the most complicated pile of parts
03:07:01 <Ysjoelfir> exactly
03:07:39 <rust_collector> and when that is working, put a rochester quadrajet on it, and make it work well. that should be a project
03:07:39 <Ysjoelfir> I mean, it was sitting outside for 12 years, but it should still sort of work
03:07:46 <Ysjoelfir> xD
03:11:02 <Ysjoelfir> god damn it, that old lady from the apartment below is smoking again -.- its like... "hey, I semell something strange. oh, great, now the whole house smells like smoke again"
03:17:47 <steve30> i see micksmelanie has started some new threads
03:35:38 <rust_collector> heh, what is the thing about him?
03:35:47 <rust_collector> or her
03:35:51 <rust_collector> or whatever?
03:42:47 <hsn> https://youtu.be/Lpe-FYvbAgA wth
03:44:05 <hsn> i ve no idea if this thing exist but seems just animation and in reality we r too too far to build such things ^^ what do u guys think
03:45:45 <Ysjoelfir> steve30
03:45:47 <Ysjoelfir> two
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03:50:01 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, or maybe lemon is down smoking
03:50:19 <Ysjoelfir> no, what lemon would do would smell better
03:53:24 <steve30> rust_collector, he's made some rather weird posts, where he seems to keep asking the same thing over and over again, so I've tried to give a few simple one word answers
03:54:32 <steve30> Youtube just showed me an advert for a vegan laundry detergent
03:55:13 <Ysjoelfir> I never knew those are made from animals in the first place
03:59:50 <DL3CE> https://xkcd.com/641/ ?
04:00:28 <Ysjoelfir> yes
04:01:44 <hsn> i got my self the best burger i ate in my life
04:01:50 <hsn> 1/4 lb
04:01:54 <hsn> https://photos.app.goo.gl/5R6povvEeWGSPaPL6
04:01:54 <Ysjoelfir> nice. where's mine?
04:02:11 <Ysjoelfir> whats a lb in a usefull unit? :P
04:02:21 <hsn> just in burgers
04:02:33 <Ysjoelfir> nice. where is mine?
04:02:40 <hsn> u come visit bahrain and urs on me
04:02:55 <Ysjoelfir> but i'm hungry now
04:03:12 <hsn> dont let me feel bad
04:03:22 <hsn> i wanna send u over ethernet
04:03:22 <DL3CE> I just ordered 250� worth of power resistors ...
04:03:42 <hsn> does it come through ur Gb ports
04:04:11 <DL3CE> I finally "snapped" when I had an idea again and was missing an 10 Ohm power resistor again, everything else was there.
04:04:24 <DL3CE> Full E6 Series from 0.1 Ohms to 15kOhms
04:04:28 <DL3CE> 10pcs each :D
04:04:35 <Ysjoelfir> no, it's sadly nbot hsn :( so I'll have to drive over. I need 59 hours
04:04:48 <Ysjoelfir> according to google
04:05:38 <Ysjoelfir> no idea if I'll be able to drive through syria though. I heard its a bit dangerous there right now
04:09:12 <hsn> 60 hours
04:09:27 <hsn> Ysjoelfir do u know youtuber mr beast?
04:09:48 <Lemon> damn im tired
04:09:48 <Ysjoelfir> well, if I could drive straigt through without refueling or making any breaks.
04:09:52 <Ysjoelfir> no, whos that?
04:10:04 <Ysjoelfir> Lemon, me too. wanna swap?
04:10:14 <Lemon> lets do it
04:10:15 <hsn> he is a guy who give people money .. recently he made an app challange
04:10:50 <hsn> the longest guy who put his finger on mobile phone streaming gets 20k$
04:11:08 <Ysjoelfir> but... why?
04:11:09 <hsn> longest period
04:11:17 <hsn> idk the guy is .. idk
04:11:37 <hsn> https://www.youtube.com/user/MrBeast6000
04:12:07 <hsn> so i ll share with u somthing super funny of one of the particapnts
04:12:47 <hsn> https://twitter.com/RyanTSG_YT/status/1278096368410800134?s=19
04:12:53 <hsn> this one
04:13:54 <Ysjoelfir> lol
04:25:57 <Lemon> hey Ysjoelfir, I soldered 4 decades already ! it looks quite nice im really happy, I found a nice way to do it
04:26:07 <Lemon> and theres 0.05 ohms per decade of residual resistance, or less
04:26:11 <Lemon> which is quite nice tbh
04:26:32 <Ysjoelfir> that sounds pretty decent
04:26:48 <Lemon> yeah im questionning myself about interconnects between decades
04:27:00 <Lemon> I need them to be less than 0.005 ohms
04:27:15 <Lemon> or less if possible
04:27:30 <Ysjoelfir> just use thick wire, it'll be enough
04:27:41 <Ysjoelfir> but don't go crazy, you don't want to break anything
04:27:53 <Lemon> break ? :>
04:27:57 <Lemon> hmm thick copper ?
04:28:02 <Lemon> copper to silver emf is nice I think
04:28:03 <Ysjoelfir> ye
04:28:24 <K> who ae you calling thick?!?!?!111111
04:28:34 <K> (hello)
04:29:32 <Ysjoelfir> hi K
04:31:34 <Lemon> hi Kboi
04:32:12 <Ysjoelfir> by the way
04:32:12 <Lemon> I measured each resistors out of 20 packs, selected 9 of the best out of each decade
04:32:21 <Ysjoelfir> must I feel old now, owning a BMW motorcycle?
04:32:26 <Lemon> so even 10M ones that were 1%, all of them are closer to 0.1% now
04:32:30 <Lemon> ho not at all
04:32:31 <Ysjoelfir> nice
04:32:41 <Lemon> a 1000 RR is quite a machine :>
04:33:05 * Ysjoelfir now has a R100RT
04:33:13 <Lemon> my brothers ex gf had a prepared one, it was making more hp than kgs
04:33:16 <Lemon> a freaking monster
04:33:41 <Lemon> you know, bikes that I love are big ones like triumph, big bmw etc
04:33:45 <Lemon> or small ones
04:33:52 <Lemon> but no sportives etc
04:34:18 <Ysjoelfir> https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_R_80_RT
04:34:43 <Lemon> perfect :>
04:34:49 <Lemon> lemon approved
04:35:04 <Ysjoelfir> that one, but the previous owner swapped the pistons, cylinders and heads for the R100 ones, so it now has.... 60? PS
04:35:14 <Lemon> thats not bad at all !
04:35:24 <Lemon> how heavy is that, 200kg ?
04:35:26 <Lemon> I havent looked
04:35:41 <Ysjoelfir> 230
04:36:07 <Lemon> yeah thats fine, not a slouch and not too powerful
04:36:13 <Lemon> still heavy if it falls for a guy like me
04:36:29 <Ysjoelfir> XD true
04:36:53 <Ysjoelfir> but I learned tricks to pick bikes up pretty early, since my uncle only uses heavy bikes like the good old honda CX
04:37:01 <Lemon> with your back !
04:37:05 <Lemon> and lifting with your legs
04:37:08 <Lemon> right ?
04:37:22 <Lemon> I always seen people doing this with fat bikes
04:38:33 <Ysjoelfir> basically you sit sideways on the seat and lift it, until you are over the muffler, then reposition yourself and basically just straighten your legs
04:38:56 <Ysjoelfir> like that https://youtu.be/nrEu3qURwV0?t=193
04:39:55 <Lemon> yeah thats what I was visualizing :>
04:40:02 <Lemon> still I'd sweat quite a bit !
04:40:23 <Ysjoelfir> nah its fine. you use every bit of leverage you get this way
04:40:48 <Lemon> I have about 3 leverages !
04:40:54 <Lemon> sometimes 2.5
04:42:15 <Ysjoelfir> hehe
04:44:07 <Lemon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A23LwF16mWw
04:44:18 <Lemon> a rare youtube that makes me laugh my ass
04:44:24 <Lemon> you dont need to understand a lot tbh
04:47:26 <Ysjoelfir> wth am i watching? :D
04:49:33 <Lemon> haha thats a dude having fun it a small village that owns a big place to practice airsoft, he is also passionned with cars (got a testarossa, m5, m3 etc)
04:49:45 <Lemon> and right now he fixes this bigass thing idktheenglishnam
04:50:10 <Ysjoelfir> ci like the exhaust of his car
04:50:38 <Lemon> la cheminee !!
04:50:54 <Ysjoelfir> I don
04:50:55 <Lemon> they take some old beated up bmw 525 tds to do that xD
04:51:01 <Ysjoelfir> 't care about the cemistry :D
04:51:07 <Lemon> they put an insane pressure in the turbo etc
04:51:11 <Ysjoelfir> hehe
04:51:18 <Lemon> so it fucking spit black tar
04:51:49 <hsn> https://twitter.com/mqasem/status/1277875971085959168?s=19
04:52:06 <Ysjoelfir> the automatic translation for the automatically generated subtitles are great
04:52:22 <Ysjoelfir> supposedly he's talking about parrots and a spa in his windshield
04:52:40 <Lemon> welllll
04:52:45 <Lemon> not really xD
04:52:48 <Lemon> but thats hard to translate
04:52:55 <Lemon> as he speaks like, in old french
04:53:49 <Ysjoelfir> breton?
04:54:05 <Lemon> not really a mix of romanichel etc xD
04:54:09 <Lemon> its his own style
04:54:12 <Lemon> but damn, damn funny
04:54:29 <Ysjoelfir> I actually once thought about learning breton.
04:56:07 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, how do u turn auto translation of auto generates cc
04:56:11 <Ysjoelfir> maria 3 is the dead mom before the (music) XD
04:56:19 <hsn> i dont have it
04:56:23 <Ysjoelfir> great translation youtube, realy great :D
04:56:48 <Ysjoelfir> hsn, activate subtitles (c button) and click the settings wheel and change the language tu auto generated
04:57:49 <hsn> hmmm
04:58:17 <Lemon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEtPlOqK2os
04:58:41 <hsn> https://imgur.com/a/apUxHgL
04:58:57 <hsn> i only have french
04:59:16 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPwETyPCwEs
04:59:32 <Ysjoelfir> hsn, use a pc :P
05:00:04 <hsn> i ll check it later but i think i didnt see it b4 is it new feature?
05:00:06 <Lemon> the guy is funny but damn they can drive
05:00:18 <Ysjoelfir> thats true
05:03:46 <Lemon> his m5 makes 750 hp, 920nm xd
05:04:03 <Ysjoelfir> oof
05:04:40 <Lemon> but I respect them because they are far from rich, made themselves from zero
05:05:01 <Lemon> the testarossa he worked like 6-7 years putting 1k euros per month, fixing bikes every weekend etc
05:05:13 <Lemon> its not ultra powerful but its so nice
05:06:47 <Lemon> the m5 is a rhd, he got it like for 25k euros
05:06:50 <Lemon> thats insane for such a car
05:11:28 <Ysjoelfir> yep
05:13:12 <Lemon> alright 4 decades left, I'll do that tommorow
05:14:44 <Lemon> they did a nice old 103 spx with a 125cc of a ycf
05:14:50 <Lemon> but it looks ultra nice
05:25:33 <hsn> yup its available on desktop web browser only
05:26:56 <rust_collector> pom pom pom... bom bom bom
05:27:00 <rust_collector> lalalalala
05:27:23 * rust_collector is making pretend substitute sheperds pie
05:29:03 <Ysjoelfir> make some for me too
05:29:19 <rust_collector> i am, because wife went to work...
05:32:29 <coppice> so, no actual shepherd in this one?
05:35:31 <rust_collector> no, and otoh, it is a pizza also, so that is a thing
05:49:16 <rust_collector> red-yellow curry pizza
06:02:38 <rust_collector> yeees, 3rd layer of cheese is on, it should be done in a bit
06:07:19 <DL3CE> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ylvyebvpim4ncoa/IMG_20200704_212634555.jpg?dl=0 can someone spot the FAIL? :D (It's not a pure functional one, more a .. reliability/usage issue)
06:15:03 <rust_collector> not really, no. but now I have food and I am going to watch the clive of a modest size
07:05:15 <Lemon> im quite happy, bending legs and heating them resistors didnt change their values that much
07:05:20 <Lemon> its still wellll within specs
07:12:39 <Ysjoelfir> thats great! :D
07:13:09 <rust_collector> yeeea!
07:13:19 <rust_collector> awesomers
07:13:22 <Ysjoelfir> so, just went to the garage and took some pics
07:15:10 <Ysjoelfir> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-D7xrJ8Rhqb4f6rdagsY29Y3R1kHuSGy?usp=sharing
07:16:25 <rust_collector> that looks... pretty tidy
07:16:57 <Ysjoelfir> yeah, for standing 12 years under a cover outside in the mud its actually suprisingly decent
07:23:28 <rust_collector> so, a roll of hose, tires, and a general cleanup and lube... hmmm.
07:23:51 <rust_collector> that thing could pull that coffin trailer
07:23:54 <Ysjoelfir> basically, yes
07:23:59 <Ysjoelfir> I'm sure it could
07:24:18 <Ysjoelfir> I might redo the wiring as its pretty crusty
07:24:44 <Ysjoelfir> and the carburetors need a repair kit, the.... the.... float valve (?) is toast on at least one
07:24:45 <hsn> what is pretty rusty
07:24:52 <Ysjoelfir> rusty is pretty?
07:24:57 <hsn> yes
07:24:57 <Ysjoelfir> I never knew!
07:25:25 <hsn> now u know :9
07:25:26 <rust_collector> look up if anyone makes a replacement harness for those. they are probably not cheap, but that could be worth looking at anyway
07:25:52 <rust_collector> not that there is that many wires
07:29:03 <rust_collector> arrrgh, you are so damn german... you put a trailer up against a wall, put stop blocks on both sides of the tires, AND put the stabilizer legs down?
07:30:24 <rust_collector> how do you like that al qaeda camera?
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07:35:18 <Ysjoelfir> xD and additionally, the garage is perfectly level, so that trailer wouldn't move at all by itself
07:36:16 <Ysjoelfir> tbh I just "secured" it like that because I didn't have a lock for it at the time and didn'T want anyone to grab it. now I doubt someone would bother to move THREE locked motorcycles just to get that old trailer
07:36:31 <Ysjoelfir> so I might remove one stop block
07:37:24 <rust_collector> someone will steal your stop blocks, and put them on ebay
07:37:28 <Ysjoelfir> the camera is very nice actually. I had my doubts because of that exaggerated 64Mpixels claim, but the pictures it takes are realy nice
07:37:41 <Ysjoelfir> thats ok, they are just 5€ for two
07:38:02 <Ysjoelfir> actually, now that I look at the pictures...
07:38:06 <Ysjoelfir> someone already stole my ramps
07:38:48 <Ysjoelfir> I had two long ramps under the trailer. the kind you have for doing work under the car, with a "pan" at the end of the ramp and a jack under it
07:39:07 <Ysjoelfir> but they were crap anyway, so.... meh
07:39:12 <rust_collector> hmmm hm hm
07:39:41 <rust_collector> I do like those trailers, but I also do not like them.
07:40:25 <rust_collector> I keep thinking about a "hard" wall and roof sort of version of that
07:40:59 <rust_collector> not ideal either, but at least I do not have to put it in the garage to dry it out
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07:44:02 <rust_collector> either that, or one where you raise the roof, and flip up the walls
07:47:46 <Ysjoelfir> there is a thing like that. the netherlandish people still build that kind of trailer as well as an enhanced version like what you described
07:47:54 <rust_collector> yeah
07:48:48 <rust_collector> but I like the low profile, when driving around
07:49:50 <Ysjoelfir> yes. its very nice
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08:39:25 <rust_collector> yes, it is, lol
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