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00:52:27 <steve30> I gave micksmelanie another reply
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01:56:41 <K> oh look, a pizza cutter
01:56:45 <K> all edge, no point
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02:07:19 <Nothing\> hello chief, let's talk why not
02:08:13 <Nothing\> lemme ask you guys something
02:08:25 <Nothing\> why the hell did nobody tell me how addictive buying games on steam is?
02:08:52 <Nothing\> i've spent $230 in the last month
02:08:59 <Nothing\> plus $20 in banking fees
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02:09:21 <rust_collector> why don't you just do normal drugs? they are probably cheaper
02:09:45 * Ampera hugs Nothing\
02:09:47 <Ampera> <3
02:10:05 <Ampera> and yeah, steam is a money pit
02:10:18 <GhislaineMaxwell> 1.5 metres please.
02:11:05 <Ampera> GhislaineMaxwell, shoo you, I thought you already committed suicide next week
02:11:25 <Nothing\> <3
02:11:30 <Ampera> how do Nothing\
02:11:34 * Nothing\ hugs tackles Ampera
02:11:37 <Nothing\> i do well
02:11:39 <Ampera> <3<3<3
02:11:42 <Nothing\> i did a good deed today
02:11:50 <Ampera> put someone out of their misery?
02:11:57 <Nothing\> in a way
02:12:02 <rust_collector> did a good dead?
02:12:07 <Ampera> haha
02:12:12 <Ampera> who did you euthanize?
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02:13:10 <Nothing\> there was a woman at the methadone clinic i'd talked to before and she was looking really rough. really strung out, withdrawing from alcohol. needed to get home but could barely dial her phone for a taxi and after trying 3 places and not getting any answer she was getting fed up
02:13:42 <Nothing\> she was saying how between the heat and how sick she was, there was no way she could walk home
02:13:55 <Nothing\> and all she wanted to do was to get home
02:14:02 <Nothing\> so i gave her a ride
02:14:08 <Ampera> oh that's nice
02:14:20 <Nothing\> yeah, well i've been in that position myself and it fucking sucks
02:14:23 <Ampera> I'm off from work today :)
02:14:32 <Nothing\> so i told her if there was anything i could do to help, i'd be glad to
02:14:37 <Nothing\> she was extremely grateful
02:14:41 <Nothing\> that's awesome
02:14:47 <Nothing\> what're you doing with your free time?
02:15:04 <Ampera> thinking too hard about the futility of existence
02:15:09 <Ampera> my favourite pastime
02:15:11 <Nothing\> tell me about it
02:15:21 <Ampera> I bought a microwave
02:15:37 <Nothing\> i can't help but think how everything you try to build up, your life, family, wealth/stability, success etc
02:15:43 <Nothing\> it inevitably deteriorates
02:15:57 <Nothing\> even your own body deteriorates whether you like it or not
02:16:01 <Nothing\> fucking entropy
02:16:02 <Ampera> My issue is that no matter what I do I'm always sad and feel like nothing's worth it
02:16:07 <Ampera> my life is going pretty good, I just don't like living it
02:16:18 <Nothing\> well that's classic clinic depression
02:16:25 <Ampera> but I know what's causing it
02:16:28 <Nothing\> it sounds like you need to change something
02:16:53 <Ampera> I don't trust antidepressants, because I sincerely believe they would have to do something awful in order to cure the sort of depression I have
02:17:02 <Ampera> and I just don't want to start getting put on medications this early in life
02:17:05 <Nothing\> reminds me of a story i read on reddit last night about a guy who was living in portland, or. was constantly miserable, hated life, always depressed etc
02:17:16 <Nothing\> then he realized he hated living in portalnd
02:17:21 <Ampera> hahahah
02:17:27 <Nothing\> so out of the blue he just sold all of his shit and moved to chicage
02:17:30 <Nothing\> chicago
02:17:32 <Ampera> yeah if I lived in portland I'd hate myself
02:17:38 <Nothing\> and was never happier after doing that
02:17:39 <Ampera> chicago is not much of an improvement, but it is one
02:17:46 <Nothing\> his life completely turned around
02:17:57 <Nothing\> needless to say he got over his depression and such
02:18:02 <Ampera> Chicago typewriters are neat, though
02:18:10 <Nothing\> never seen one
02:18:19 <Ampera> Neither have I, as they are hella rare and expensive
02:18:27 <Ampera> and a pain in the ass to buy
02:18:33 <Nothing\> i'm not terribly famliar with typerwriters. just the daisy wheel and golf ball designs
02:18:38 <Ampera> not that kinda typewriter
02:18:43 Quit: PrivateJoe ([email protected]) Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client
02:18:46 <Nothing\> word processor?
02:18:49 <Ampera> haha no
02:18:53 <Nothing\> ?
02:18:58 <Nothing\> you've done lost me
02:19:06 <Ampera> Al Capone's sorta typewriter
02:19:25 <Nothing\> Ampera, tbh though, meds would probably mess you up worse
02:19:43 <Nothing\> my mom was talked into giving me "antidepressants" when i was a teenager
02:19:44 <Ampera> I just don't trust them, and my problems are such that I don't want drugs to fix them
02:20:13 <Ampera> I think there is genuine textbook cases of depression, where you just feel sad for no reason, but I have a reason
02:20:16 <Ampera> I just can't do anything about it
02:20:30 <Ampera> (intending feel sad not as simple as I said it)
02:20:45 <Nothing\> after 2 weeks on zoloft one night i ate 96 tylenol 1s, which have a small amount of codeine and that wasn't anywhere close to a lethal dose of codeine, but the tylenol was enough that i woulda suffered liver failure if i didn't have medical intervention
02:20:56 Quit: GhislaineMaxwell ([email protected]) Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client
02:21:00 <Nothing\> and as a result, wouldn't have survived without a transplant
02:21:10 <Nothing\> who the hell would use that as their name?
02:21:15 <Nothing\> ghislainemaxwell
02:21:23 <Nothing\> that's just poor taste and disgusting
02:21:30 <Ampera> There's a guy who likes to catfish as usernames like that
02:21:43 <Ampera> same person who was kim yo jung
02:21:45 <Ampera> or whoever
02:21:47 <Nothing\> i don't usually care about offensive names, but there are some areas you just don't go
02:21:54 <Ampera> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
02:21:57 <Nothing\> well i don't care about that
02:22:08 <Ampera> Isn't much I can do about it. I could kick them or ban them, but the damage is done, and they can always come back
02:22:13 <Nothing\> but ghislaine maxwell is a human piece of shit and i hope she literally gets raped to death
02:22:20 <Ampera> I hope she doesn't.
02:22:25 <Nothing\> how come?
02:22:25 <Ampera> I hope they try as hard as possible to keep her alive
02:22:28 <Nothing\> honestly
02:22:33 <Nothing\> ah, more suffering
02:22:34 <Nothing\> gotcha
02:22:35 <Ampera> no
02:22:37 <Ampera> no no
02:22:40 <Nothing\> ?
02:22:44 <Ampera> she's the second best thing we have to Epstein
02:22:46 <Ampera> she knows people who did shit
02:22:47 <Nothing\> testimony?
02:22:50 <Nothing\> aye
02:23:03 <Nothing\> i don't know why she's still free tbh
02:23:07 <Ampera> I just hope they don't kill her like Epstein
02:23:08 <Ampera> she's not
02:23:13 <Nothing\> oh really?
02:23:14 <Ampera> they just arrested her a day or two ago
02:23:18 <Nothing\> nice!
02:23:18 <Ampera> that's why everyone's talking about her
02:23:26 <Nothing\> chalk one up for the good guys
02:23:32 <Ampera> we'll see
02:23:41 <Nothing\> although the federal bureau of prisons can hardly be called the good guys
02:23:42 <Ampera> because Epstein got arrested and they executed him
02:23:45 <Nothing\> they're so fucked up
02:24:29 <Nothing\> i found this channel, larry lawton. the guy was a jewel thief who got caught and spent 11 years of a 12 year sentence in maximum security federal prison
02:24:46 <Nothing\> he tells all sorts of stories about the shit he's seen and had done to him
02:25:01 <Nothing\> and sort of reads or paraphrases chapters out of his book
02:25:02 <Ampera> yeah I saw him
02:25:10 <Nothing\> it's a really great channel tbh
02:25:13 <Ampera> eh
02:25:25 <Ampera> I'm on Twitter every day I already see enough fucked up shit
02:25:29 <Nothing\> i don't usually like such stuff but his channel really caught my attention
02:25:43 <Nothing\> Ampera, well that's one reason why you feel so fucked up
02:25:50 <Ampera> nah, it's not
02:26:07 <Ampera> I'm on Twitter specifically because I'm learning to deal with this stuff, and I'm doing better than ever at it
02:26:10 <Nothing\> i used to read/look at a lot of fucked up shit and even if you do'nt feel it. it does affect you on some level
02:26:22 <Nothing\> the constant negativity gets to you
02:26:33 <Nothing\> subconsciously
02:26:38 <Ampera> I have an incredibly strong fake/real distinction
02:26:40 <Ampera> I don't buy that
02:27:07 <Nothing\> it's just how our psyche is
02:27:17 <Ampera> If I had no clue what was going on with me, yeah maybe I'd take stock in that, and sometimes Twitter does make me feel like shit, but then I deal with it, take breaks, and just get better at processing it
02:27:29 <Nothing\> our subconiousc is like asponge and absorbs and integrates anything and everything that passes thregouh it
02:27:30 <Ampera> but I know exactly why I feel like shit, and exactly why I can't do anything about it ever
02:27:30 <EEVBlog> 42, Nothing\!
02:27:48 <Ampera> I love the EEVBot
02:27:53 <Ampera> it's probably the best thing I ever wrote
02:28:03 <Nothing\> Ampera, oh don't get me wrong, i'm not saying it's the cause of it
02:28:12 <Nothing\> but it sure doesn't help any
02:28:25 <Ampera> I don't even think it contributes much, I'm there because it helps me keep in touch with the world and take my mind on my own problems
02:28:45 <Nothing\> that could very well be true
02:28:46 <Ampera> Debate is one of my favourite hobbies, and Twitter is like one giant barely moderated debate club
02:29:04 <Ampera> I also have friends there, so it's not all current events bullshit
02:29:08 <Nothing\> i guess everybody's different and over the years i've become less tolerant of negative stuff like that
02:29:23 <Nothing\> i tend to get triggered easily by such things
02:30:09 <Nothing\> to the point where i don't even watch movies with serious plots cuz it just gets to me too bad
02:30:23 <Ampera> Part of why I'm on Twitter is because I know in order to survive in the world I need to manage things I don't like to see or hear
02:30:37 <Nothing\> i like to say that i have enough emotion tumult to deal with, i don't need artificial tumult from movies and such like that
02:30:53 <Nothing\> that's what i thought too
02:31:00 <Ampera> As for movies and media, I love stuff that takes me for an emotional loop
02:31:08 <Nothing\> i used to look at a lot of gore to try and desensitize myself to it
02:31:15 <Ampera> I usually have enough separation to pull me from it, but my power to suspend reality is immense
02:31:26 <Nothing\> or read fucked up things, like how falung gong practitioners are tortured in china
02:31:31 <Ampera> I don't do that.
02:31:34 <Nothing\> really fucked up things like that
02:31:57 <Nothing\> thinking that the more i exposed myself to it, the less it would affect me because i'd become desensitized
02:32:15 <Ampera> Desensitizing myself is not what I'm doing
02:32:32 <Ampera> I'm still sensitive enough to what I see, the point is to be able to manage that response, and utilize it in a responsible manner
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02:34:21 <Nothing\> i dunno what happened, whether it's just from growing up, or my psyche simply had enoughh, but i got to the point where i just couldn't tolerate that stuff anymore
02:34:35 <Nothing\> i used to be able to watch surgeries no problem but i even lost my stomach for that
02:34:57 <Nothing\> and hoo boy my meds are all kickin in at once. i'm suddenly struggling to stay awake
02:35:02 <Ampera> ah
02:35:03 <Nothing\> methinks me needs a coffee
02:35:05 <Ampera> have fun
02:35:15 <Ampera> I always love medically induced slumbers, not sure if you do
02:35:19 <Nothing\> oh it's a tassimo, it's a 2 second operation to make coffee
02:35:25 <Ampera> ah
02:35:41 <Nothing\> personally i don't like them because it interferes with the stuff i do enjoy
02:35:56 <Nothing\> like games, programming, math, electronics, studying, things of that nature
02:36:52 <Nothing\> i got this really cool gam the other day where you use this hardware description langague to build digital circuits
02:37:00 <Nothing\> and eventually work your way up to a full cpu
02:37:14 <Nothing\> it's just a shame cuz it's really linear and there's no free play
02:37:41 <Ampera> I've been playing Satisfactory
02:37:49 <Ampera> and have been playing paper mario on my phone because I like me some good paper mario
02:38:21 <Nothing\> i've got that, but i haven't played it yet
02:38:38 <Nothing\> there's a new paper mario game coming out or already out on the switch i wanted to get
02:38:44 <Nothing\> i loved the paper mario on the wii
02:38:55 <Nothing\> one of the best games for the system imo
02:38:56 <Ampera> Nothing\, you're on Steam, add me on there steamcommunity.com/id/TwoOfFive
02:39:13 <Nothing\> okied dokels, lemme see waht my think is
02:39:13 <Ampera> this is Nintendo 64, which is where I feel at home
02:39:15 <Nothing\> i know my name is nothing
02:39:45 <Nothing\> you'll be my first and only friend
02:39:59 <Nothing\> btw, nice borg reference
02:40:00 <Nothing\> :P
02:40:05 <Ampera> yeah it's a legacy name
02:40:19 <Ampera> Ampera is my oldest still used username, and for a while I wanted to change it to TwoOfFive to be different
02:40:24 <Ampera> but I decided Ampera was better and kept it
02:40:24 <Nothing\> i'd like to rewatch TNG some time on netflix
02:40:34 <Ampera> oh I just got Netflix for the first time in ages
02:40:35 <Nothing\> but laately i've been binge-watching adventure time
02:40:40 <Ampera> last time I had it I got DVDs in the mail with them
02:40:44 <Nothing\> netflix is meh
02:40:50 <Ampera> I get it for 3$ a month
02:40:53 <Nothing\> i don't care for their series and the movies are mostly shit
02:41:01 <Ampera> 4 screen UHD
02:41:17 <Nothing\> i got amazon prime cuz they have better content, but it buffers so bad in HD, i can't even watch shit
02:41:23 <Ampera> I have Prime too
02:41:32 <Ampera> I actually got a new phone plan, which is why I have Netflix for so cheap
02:41:38 <Nothing\> the one time i tried to watch something it buffered real bad, so i just wound up pirating it
02:41:58 <Nothing\> i have curiosity stream as well, but i haven't used it out of sheer laziness
02:42:12 <Nothing\> plus i can't figure out how to get this nebula service everyone's always talking about
02:42:36 <Nothing\> my mom likes the stuff on netflix though and she pays for it, so i'm keeping that
02:42:45 <Nothing\> but amazon i think i'm cancelling after the free month
02:42:56 <Nothing\> or cheap month or whatever deal it was they roped me in with
02:42:56 <Ampera> I don't pay for Prime, but I use it because shipping
02:43:08 <Nothing\> yeah that's what i originally got it for
02:43:17 <Nothing\> faster shipping a bench power supply i ordered
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02:46:18 <Nothing\> oh man
02:46:35 <Nothing\> smokey finally got big/smart enough to figure out how to jupm up onto the kitchen counter
02:46:43 <Nothing\> scared the shit out of my when i found out
02:46:44 <Ampera> aww
02:47:47 <Nothing\> was like 2 or 3am, i thought he was sleeping upstairs so i decided to wash my face/head in the sink while i can. cuz for some reason whenever i do, he's always jupming up and basicalyl hugging my leg without claws or anything like he's legit scared for me life.
02:48:02 <Nothing\> so i take the opportunity to have my head shower without him botheringme
02:48:22 <Nothing\> as i'm sitting there washing my face, i've got soap in my eyes
02:48:45 <Nothing\> and suddenly i feel these 4 "hands" push me from behind
02:48:48 <Nothing\> on my back
02:48:58 <Ampera> hahaha
02:48:58 <Nothing\> scared the absolute shit out of me
02:49:09 <Ampera> was he climbing on you?
02:49:12 <Nothing\> but it turned out it was smokey trying to jump on my back
02:49:15 <Nothing\> yeah, but without claws
02:49:16 <Ampera> ah
02:49:18 <Nothing\> he was gentle
02:49:19 <Ampera> so cute
02:49:30 <Nothing\> but then next thing i know, he's up on the counter right next to me
02:49:42 <Nothing\> he has this obsession with fresh water for some reason
02:49:54 <Nothing\> he's always begging for fresh water to be added to his dish
02:50:05 <Ampera> <3
02:50:07 <Nothing\> and now thta he can access counters, he's always trying to drink from the tap
02:50:38 <Nothing\> the other night the dumbass tried drinking from the bathroom tap while i was brushing my teeth and i wound up dripping a buncha toothpaste on the back of his head
02:51:01 <Nothing\> or a few times he's done a nose dive into the toilet when the seat was up
02:51:21 <Nothing\> cuz he'll jupm on the toilet to get up on the counter
02:51:43 <Nothing\> lol it's funny, he's watching the chat right now as if he can actually understand that we're talking about him
02:52:00 <Nothing\> did i tell you he figured out how to play fetch?
02:52:17 <Ampera> I believe you did
02:52:20 <Ampera> my cat Mittens used to do that
02:52:24 <Ampera> then he turned into a fat cunt
02:52:24 <Nothing\> haha yeah, that' was awesome
02:52:33 <Nothing\> lol wut?
02:52:39 <Ampera> he a big boi
02:52:45 <Ampera> cause he gets jealous when other cats eat
02:52:51 <Ampera> so if he hears anyone at the food bowl he'll come to kick them out
02:52:55 <Ampera> even though we have multiple
02:52:56 <Nothing\> yeah he really dose
02:52:59 <Ampera> so he just eats like a fucking horse
02:53:05 <Nothing\> my cat does the same
02:53:16 <Nothing\> he's part maine coon, and they get really big
02:53:31 <Nothing\> last time i measured him proper, he was 65cm snout to tail
02:53:35 <Nothing\> which is about 2 feet
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02:53:40 <Nothing\> bit more than 2 feet
02:53:45 <Nothing\> and he's only 4 months old
02:54:09 <Nothing\> they don't get full grown until they're a few years
02:54:09 <DL3CE> Good evening
02:54:15 <Nothing\> heya DL3CE
02:54:23 <Nothing\> how does your evening find you?
02:54:30 <Nothing\> even though iit's 1pm here
02:55:25 <DL3CE> It walks around the globe. Now it's around UTC+2 :D
02:56:07 <DL3CE> I think I'm going retro again .. I developed a fondness for using the good old CD4060 if I need some clock somewhere :D
02:57:34 <Nothing\> heh i've got a buncha 4060s
02:57:50 <Nothing\> i have literally oodles of 4000 and 7400 series chips
02:57:56 <Nothing\> and maybe a dozen LM series
02:58:19 <Nothing\> i forget what the 4060 is... not inverters, i thikn that's 4069
02:58:25 <DL3CE> I like this old stuff ..
02:58:30 <Nothing\> i've only had 2 hours of sleep so i'm drawing a blank
02:58:41 <Nothing\> DL3CE, i'd like to build a breadboard computer one of these days
02:59:02 <Nothing\> so i just bought up every possible logic chip i could get my hands on
02:59:23 <DL3CE> I was flipping through my old Elektor books .. the 300 circuit series. Got a few additional ones.
02:59:29 <Nothing\> even spent $20-$25 for a pack of 10 74hc183 ALUs
02:59:36 <Nothing\> or was it 186, i can't remember
02:59:50 <Nothing\> and a similar amount for some... i thikn they're comparators
02:59:52 <DL3CE> The later ones are already somewhat .. questionable.
03:00:16 <Nothing\> heh i even bought some HM6116s
03:00:31 <Nothing\> which are the 16kilobit SRAM chips they used in the SNES
03:00:35 <Nothing\> er the NES
03:00:57 <DL3CE> I mean, they always consisted to a good part out of recycled appnotes, but I don't see anything wrong with that. They came out in the 70s and 80s, where you didn't have access to appnotes if not a professional.
03:00:59 <Nothing\> and a couple of 6502s and z80s i wouldn't even begin to know how to use properly without other chips in the set
03:01:26 <Nothing\> yeah i've got a ton of appnotes and datasheets from the 80s and that era
03:01:45 <DL3CE> Well, if you asked nicely manufactures often send you some. But you have to know that they exist in the first place.
03:01:48 <Nothing\> there's nothing wrong with them at all, still applicable to the hardware cuz the hardware was developed in that era too
03:02:07 <Nothing\> some what? appnotes?
03:02:26 <Nothing\> i just google for my appnotes, most are from TI or analog.com
03:02:41 <DL3CE> There was no google in 1981 ;)
03:02:58 <Nothing\> aaahhhh okay
03:03:12 <Nothing\> yeah i don't think i woulda been able to get into electronics back in those days
03:03:20 <Nothing\> it's only because of the internet that i got into them
03:03:35 <Nothing\> started with watching eevblog and big clive and stuf
03:03:51 <DL3CE> https://pictures.abebooks.com/SWIVELLER/22610653000.jpg I got those (the german versions) from my father when I was around 7 or 8
03:04:20 <Nothing\> but the biggest boone to my interest and ultimately my jupm to making actual circuits was paul falstad's circuit simulator. if you're familiar
03:04:22 <DL3CE> And was looking through them I some were easy enough to build with my electronics kit.
03:05:02 <Nothing\> i'm a very visual and hands on learner so being able to see how the circuits worked, where the current was flowing and how much, what voltages were where etc
03:05:20 <DL3CE> Same thing here
03:05:20 <Nothing\> it really helped me develop an intuitive understanding of how circuits and chips worked
03:05:34 <DL3CE> But it was more like .. trying it out and ..
03:05:42 <DL3CE> where is smoke, there is current ;)
03:05:42 <Nothing\> i never bought many kits
03:06:06 <Nothing\> juts this one logic kit i got locally from a surplus store, radioshack surplus. for fucking $50
03:06:35 <Nothing\> it came with a buncha stuff like a keypad, DIP sockets, some perfboard, stuff of that nature
03:06:51 <Nothing\> but it also had logic ICs, which i hadn't been able to get at that time
03:07:15 <Nothing\> they were just jellybean parts, basic logic gates, some 555s, etc
03:07:20 <Nothing\> for $50
03:07:22 <Nothing\> :/
03:07:37 <Nothing\> eventually i discovered ali express and just went nuts buying up parts
03:07:43 <DL3CE> I had this one as a kid .. http://www.experimentierkasten-board.de/viewtopic.php?p=2389 (german, but the pictures are international)
03:07:58 <Nothing\> cuz you could get like a pack of 10 jellybean parts for $1 or $2
03:08:06 <DL3CE> First the X1000, then the X3000 and I think I bought some parts to enhance it to X4000.
03:08:28 <Nothing\> oh right on
03:08:35 <DL3CE> Ah and this one: https://www.experimentierkasten-board.de/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=351
03:08:41 <Nothing\> that oloks like a it'd be a great, neat little kit for beginners
03:09:12 <Nothing\> haha love the neon pink lettering
03:09:14 <Nothing\> very 80's
03:09:16 <DL3CE> Nah, it's only an addon.
03:09:25 <DL3CE> the "high tech"
03:09:31 <Nothing\> i only just got into this stuff like 3 years ago
03:09:45 <DL3CE> You needed at least the 3000 to actually do something.
03:09:57 <DL3CE> Quite nice things in there.
03:10:17 <Nothing\> but yeah that's the thing, i coulda easily got the parts from radioshack or like that
03:10:28 <Nothing\> but getting actual info on the chips would have been beyond me
03:10:38 <Nothing\> unless they sold databoks too
03:11:46 <DL3CE> https://www.ebay.de/itm/223463522371 Still have this one from back then
03:12:38 <Nothing\> heh, 941 files in my "datasheets" folder, which includes app notes and interesting books i'll probably never to
03:12:56 <Nothing\> nice
03:13:02 <Nothing\> you know, i have family in germany
03:13:03 <DL3CE> And those:
03:13:09 <Nothing\> in and around tiefenbraun
03:13:33 <Nothing\> my uncle work/ed at a porche factory in the area
03:13:55 <Nothing\> did pretty well for himself
03:14:23 <Nothing\> my grandparents even still collected a persion from germany untilthey died
03:14:38 <Nothing\> hell, my mom was born in germany too
03:14:51 <Nothing\> i think near stuttgart
03:14:55 <DL3CE> And those: https://imagecache.kalaydo.de/ueNjIvDRzd0Y324pkTAeOcd4FF8=/fit-in/600x450/kalaydo/images_classifieds/1b/22/799f-734c-44ff-bcbf-b9ff604352ec/large.jpg ;)
03:15:06 <DL3CE> Those were actually really nice
03:15:15 <Nothing\> ooh nice
03:15:17 <DL3CE> Very compact but comprehensive
03:15:21 <Nothing\> except TTL is old news now
03:15:36 <Nothing\> even the supposed TTL 7400 chips are all CMOS these days
03:16:31 <Nothing\> i reemember that confusing me when i found out the HC chips were actualy CMOS, cuz everybody just flat out referre to 7400 chips as being TTL
03:16:45 <DL3CE> Hmm .. the 7400 and 74LS00 I encountered are still bipolar
03:16:53 <DL3CE> the HC of course.. yeah, CMOS :D
03:17:02 <Nothing\> even that gigatron, if you're familiar with it
03:17:20 <Nothing\> a fully computer built with just logic chips, even the cpu was just discrete logic
03:18:16 <Nothing\> it claims it's a TTL computer, but the chips are all HCT
03:18:54 <Nothing\> i tried to point this out on one of their videos and this guy chimes in saying "well it uses TTL voltage levels so that means it's still TTL"
03:19:38 <Nothing\> but yeah, there are still the LS chips and such that are bipolar
03:19:52 <Nothing\> i have a few LS chips, mostly ones i couldn't find in HC
03:20:28 <Nothing\> urgh it's gonna bug me till i figure out what the 74hc273 was
03:20:40 <Nothing\> almost certain it's a comparitor
03:20:57 <DL3CE> Latch
03:21:07 <Nothing\> same with the 740hc60, i'm stll drawing a blank on that
03:21:10 <Nothing\> oh yeah that's right
03:21:29 <DL3CE> Ah sorry D-Register ;)
03:21:33 <Nothing\> i paid like $25 for a pack of 10 of those too
03:21:39 <Nothing\> no wait
03:21:52 <Nothing\> i think those were the one i got a pack of 25 dirt cheap
03:21:59 <DL3CE> Hmm there are pages stuck together in the TTL Databook
03:22:03 <Nothing\> wtf am i think of then, i've gotta go upstairs and check
03:22:11 <Nothing\> heh, been wanking to your databook?
03:22:13 <DL3CE> Was someone THAT fond of the 74184?
03:22:26 <Nothing\> lol like minds
03:22:54 <Nothing\> these days wikipedia has a great list of 7400, 4000 and LM chips complete with links to datasheets
03:22:59 <DL3CE> Its depressing that many of the chips aren't available anymore :D
03:23:30 <Nothing\> there are few, if any i wasn't able to find on aliexpress
03:23:36 <DL3CE> Not that I need a 74189 but...
03:23:59 <Nothing\> one i know was like a 128 or 258 bit SRAM chip in the 7400 series
03:24:36 <DL3CE> 64bit this one
03:24:46 <Nothing\> oh no it wasn't 273
03:24:51 <Nothing\> it was 173 i have
03:25:06 <DL3CE> Hmm the Volume 1 is falling apart
03:25:14 <DL3CE> Let's grab the glue .. again :D
03:25:21 <Nothing\> but what i was thinking of was 74hc283
03:25:52 <Nothing\> 4 bit adder
03:25:55 <Nothing\> that's what it was!
03:26:01 <Nothing\> cuz i wanted to make my own ALU
03:26:27 <Nothing\> and damned if i could properly wire up a 4 bit full adder from discrete logic
03:26:33 <DL3CE> What on earth got me to buy the solvent free pattex again?
03:26:44 <Nothing\> what's pattex?
03:26:53 <Nothing\> and why is solvent free an issue?
03:27:02 <DL3CE> Very popular contact glue
03:27:14 <Nothing\> ah neat
03:27:18 <Nothing\> that's what i need
03:27:29 <coppice> Nothing: because you know its now really free. They'll make you pay for it somehow
03:27:31 <DL3CE> Normal Pattex .. air it out 5min, full strength in 12hours
03:27:33 <coppice> not
03:27:51 <DL3CE> That stuff ...
03:28:02 <DL3CE> air it out 45min, full strength after 3days ..
03:28:08 <Nothing\> coppice, what's that?
03:29:08 <DL3CE> Also
03:29:28 <DL3CE> I smells far less strong, but the bit it smells, smells like rotten poop.
03:30:30 <Nothing\> heh i also got these neat chips, cd4007, they're a dual complimentary pair of MOSFETs plus an inverter
03:30:49 <K> heh funnily enough i used pattex glue today, it says %100, %0 solvent
03:30:50 <Nothing\> i liked the idea of them cuz they actually have pins for the substrate
03:30:56 <DL3CE> Naked CMOS pairs, yes
03:31:05 <Nothing\> which is something i always wanted to play with
03:31:39 <Nothing\> i wonder if i could make a transmission gate from it
03:31:43 <DL3CE> I think the 300 circuits book has some ideas with them, I could look for it ..
03:31:52 <Nothing\> i know you need matched pairs for transmission gates, don't you?
03:32:02 <K> too bad the instructions or it ar in turkish
03:32:20 <Nothing\> DL3CE, what's the full name of the book? i'll see if i can find a pdf
03:32:28 <Nothing\> usually there are pdfs for stuff like that
03:32:47 <Nothing\> K, these days with google you can translate damn near any website in any language to english
03:33:32 <K> couldn't be arsed, just dabbed it on and put under a 12V lead battery and a rotary table, should be enough
03:33:52 <Nothing\> actually DL3CE my mom would like these databooks and kits you linked me to. she always likes trying to read german stuff
03:34:56 <Nothing\> heh i've got 4060s, 4063, 4066 and 4069
03:35:15 <Nothing\> i always like getting chips with consecutive numbers
03:35:34 <Nothing\> oh and a 4068, was a nexperia datasheet that was hiding
03:36:10 <Nothing\> oh wait, that's a 4046B
03:36:14 <Nothing\> lol
03:36:42 <Nothing\> i have like 50 4046s cuz i accidentally kept ordering them not realizing i already ordered them
03:36:47 <DL3CE> I once build a digital clock out of TTL-ICs
03:36:58 <Nothing\> i'd love to do that with cmos
03:36:59 <DL3CE> Just for fun.
03:37:21 <DL3CE> But the packages for the 7 segements in Eagle were wrong
03:37:25 <Nothing\> was the timing based on the 50hz frequency of the mains? or did you do it yourself from the chips?
03:37:48 <K> oh well, enough work
03:37:50 <K> cyas
03:38:06 <Nothing\> yeah i should go help my mom with her groceries
03:38:09 <DL3CE> So it showed As, Es and SS-runes instead of the time ..
03:38:16 <Nothing\> i'll be back in a bit
03:38:21 <Nothing\> DL3CE, nice
03:38:32 <Nothing\> i've always wanted a clock thta displayed time in BCD
03:38:38 <DL3CE> Nothing a few botch wires can't fix
03:38:54 <Nothing\> anywho, i should be on my way
03:39:04 <Nothing\> was fun talking DL3CE. let's do it again some time
03:39:15 <DL3CE> I will be here until night or so :D
03:39:18 <Nothing\> talke care buddy.
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03:47:51 <hsn> https://instagram.com/stories/engineeringmemesguy/2344579295793668319?utm_source=ig_story_item_share&igshid=anar5uxd14k8
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04:31:00 <DL3CE> https://www.ebay.de/itm/5PCS-X-SN74LS181N-DIP-TI/332467261592?hash=item4d6897d098:g:DsoAAOSwEOpaH-tV interesting dealer name.
04:31:09 <DL3CE> Reminds me of the FUKE multimeters
05:55:27 <Lemon> hmmm so I soldered 9 resistors in a thumbwheel switch
05:55:41 <Lemon> but I get the opposite value, like if I put the wheel on the 3, it give me a 7
06:11:23 <Lemon> alright found why
06:12:20 <Lemon> doesnt look too bad, I did the 1R decade, seems I get 0.05ohms residual
06:12:34 <Lemon> with 9 decades that will be under half a ohm which is fine
06:13:38 <Lemon> also that looks quite clean and resistors doesnt heat too much
06:13:43 <Lemon> I'll have enough solder I think
06:13:50 <Lemon> mundorf silver please
06:13:55 <Lemon> like it will change shit lol
06:19:15 <Lemon> doesnt look too bad I think https://imgur.com/a/Og25oUx
06:19:26 <Lemon> I had to put them this way, so they could fit
06:19:48 <Lemon> and yes its dumb they did it that way, the 0 should have been next to 1, not 9
06:27:45 <Lemon> all in all im happy, I will solder the rest soon and finish this damn box !
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07:00:31 * rust_collector has been doing dad things. like sharpening his daughters axe. that thing was waay too hard, and needs tempering a bit
07:01:07 <Lemon> perfect !
07:02:53 <rust_collector> she is weird. daaadyyyy???? can yooouuu..... sharpen my axe
07:03:04 <rust_collector> reminds me of a song
07:03:05 <Lemon> just dont ask why !
07:03:47 <Lemon> what do you think of my job on the thumbwheel ? :>
07:04:21 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mV9evbrrUcU
07:05:14 <rust_collector> looks very... resistorish?
07:05:27 <Lemon> thats true yeah
07:05:44 <Lemon> I failed the first one, but learnt some stuff and succeed on this one
07:06:00 <rust_collector> ok, what happened?
07:06:17 <Lemon> well first I soldered them the other side, and it was quite hard
07:06:24 <Lemon> not a lot of space etc
07:06:36 <Lemon> this time I did them one by one, cut legs each time etc
07:06:41 <Lemon> didnt heat them too much
07:07:17 <Lemon> and the wiring was a bit wrong
07:07:20 <Lemon> not that much, but still
07:07:33 <Lemon> the 9th resistor was soldered to the 0
07:07:34 <rust_collector> uuh.
07:07:35 <rust_collector> ok
07:07:50 <Lemon> instead of 0 to 1, but for my defense, its like : 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0
07:07:53 <Lemon> instead of 0 1 2 3 etc
07:10:42 <Lemon> each switch seems to have around 0.05ohms without connections
07:10:49 <Lemon> which is fine
07:18:03 <hsn> so
07:24:42 <hsn> how is my lemon
07:24:54 <Lemon> ho im doing good thanks, and you ?
07:25:49 <hsn> if u r good then im good :P
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07:56:14 <Lemon> tommorow I'll do more decades of that resistor box
07:56:23 <Lemon> I might make a second one and sell it if it turns really good
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07:57:49 <hsn> Lemon, even if u add more decades between us .. i'll still love u
07:57:58 <Lemon> awww
07:58:12 <hsn> xD
08:04:29 <Lemon> an iet RS-201W got specs similar to mine
08:04:48 <Lemon> mine will got a tad better residual resistance
08:05:34 <Lemon> 0.1% 25ppm/C 9 decades
08:05:43 <Lemon> 0.05 ohms per decade of resdual resistance
08:05:54 <Lemon> they cost 600 euros + without taxes
08:06:05 <Lemon> mine costed me like a bit under 100 euros
08:06:15 <Lemon> so we'll see if I achieve those results
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08:19:12 <hsn> https://www.dw.com/en/germany-makes-upskirting-a-punishable-crime/a-54037371
08:19:22 <hsn> carefull ysjeolfir
08:19:49 <Lemon> like, its authorozed right now ?
08:19:56 <Lemon> authorized
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08:22:59 <hsn> according to the video in the link .. some countries allowed
08:27:17 <MrMobodies> Hello
08:27:39 <MrMobodies> I found this thread today
08:27:41 <MrMobodies> https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/important-smf-forum-software-is-all-but-abandoned/
08:28:03 <MrMobodies> and I also fell for the date where it don't the the year until some point out it was 10 years old
08:28:45 <MrMobodies> I think Simple Machines have a come a long way and I like it the way it is.
08:29:47 <MrMobodies> From the polls: No, just leave it until the wheels fall off. 20 (60.6%)
09:00:53 <rust_collector> how about just not putting wheels on it at all?
09:01:50 <steve30> I didn't understand the 10 year thing. This link, when browsed with JavaScript off, says that the post is from 2014. If I browse with Javascript on, it says 2010.
09:01:52 <steve30> https://www.sitepoint.com/community/t/smf-forum-project-on-deaths-door/48180
09:03:17 <MrMobodies> I see, Palemoon, different
09:03:24 <MrMobodies> going to screenshot
09:07:42 <MrMobodies> https://imgur.com/a/fueN5qL
09:08:07 <MrMobodies> it is different on Palemoon but only shows the year when the window is expanded
09:11:25 <MrMobodies> not putting wheels on it? Well I am happy with the way it is.
09:12:29 <MrMobodies> Nice it is being maintained.
09:13:54 <MrMobodies> Also when I expand the Palemoon wider it does shows but I happened to have them opened small to see other things. So it wasn't not that.
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09:16:32 <MrMobodies> I was carrying some slabs last night but when I woke up I was pain. Looks like I twisted my shoulder and back a bit.
09:17:54 <rust_collector> ok, I think that means you should do that kind of thing more often
09:19:22 <MrMobodies> Oh yes, the previous occupant had pebbles as their patio and only tiled a bit of it for their hot tub I just moved a few loose slabs.
09:20:00 <MrMobodies> now all I have to do is shovel the stones out and the builders will remove the larger slabs.
09:25:06 <rust_collector> ok, so what is the plan? remove stuff, and.... plant grass, or, build something, or?
09:29:28 <MrMobodies> just building a patio
09:30:02 <rust_collector> oh, that can be nice
09:31:04 <MrMobodies> beofre the garden is a section with pebbles and part patio (for hot tub)
09:31:08 <MrMobodies> I don't understand why the previous occupants didn't patio the whole section
09:31:24 <MrMobodies> when you get out of the hot tub they might hurt their feet
09:31:33 <MrMobodies> on the pebbles
09:32:08 <MrMobodies> they are concrete industrials slabs but around it is red pebbles which I moving to the muddy parts of the garden
09:57:15 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: The Powerhouse Museum is SAVED! https://t.co/EW6AuChD40 Now, how much did that boondoggle cost us?
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10:38:37 <rust_collector> good night. time for... waiting for the next day
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10:42:21 <Nothing\> fuuuuuuck
10:42:28 <rust_collector> who?
10:42:33 <Nothing\> that was an extremely disappointing experience
10:42:46 <Nothing\> i was looking at computers on tiger direct to get an idea of what to get
10:42:47 <rust_collector> yes, it is more like work
10:42:51 <rust_collector> oh
10:42:54 <Nothing\> found what looked like the perfectly computer
10:44:10 <rust_collector> what are you looking for?
10:44:31 <Nothing\> i7 1070k, 5.1ghz 8 core, 16gb ddr4, gtx 1650 super 6gb
10:44:45 <rust_collector> ok. well, then I won't comment
10:44:46 <Nothing\> was $1250 plus tax and $10 shipping on tiger direct
10:45:04 <Nothing\> so i go to pay for it
10:45:07 <Nothing\> WAH WAH
10:45:09 * Ampera hugs Nothing\ again
10:45:10 <Nothing\> US ONLY
10:45:16 * Nothing\ hugs Ampera <3
10:45:23 <Ampera> intel is gay
10:45:37 <Nothing\> so i go on best buy's canadian site
10:45:45 <Nothing\> same tier of computer costs over $2000
10:45:56 <Nothing\> the $1200 ones are shitty i5s
10:46:07 <Ampera> get AMD
10:46:09 <Ampera> they're cheaper and faster
10:46:10 <Nothing\> i did't even look past there
10:46:11 <rust_collector> well, that is the rate of the canadian pesos
10:46:12 <Ampera> and build it yourself
10:46:17 <Nothing\> and, huh
10:46:21 <Ampera> rust_collector, 1 CAD = 0.000000001 USD
10:46:28 <rust_collector> right
10:46:37 <Nothing\> rust_collector, no it's not just that, but shit just costs more in canada
10:46:50 <Ampera> no seriously, AMD is currently beating intel in value and performance
10:47:03 <Ampera> if you get Intel on a budget you're throwing away money
10:47:05 <rust_collector> well, yeah, but it is mostly just because you people pay more for stuff
10:47:08 <Nothing\> Ampera, i looked into ryzen cpus
10:47:24 <Nothing\> and they just seemed weaker compared to the 14nm i7s
10:47:27 <Ampera> hahahah
10:47:29 <Ampera> no they're not
10:47:29 <Nothing\> the 1070 series
10:47:34 <Ampera> they trounce them
10:47:43 <Ampera> in almost every single perceivable way
10:47:43 <Nothing\> fewer cores, lower clock speed, smaller caches
10:47:47 <Ampera> what?
10:47:50 <Nothing\> maybe not fewere cores
10:47:53 <Nothing\> but the rest was true
10:47:54 <rust_collector> you are not supposed to put any weight on them anyway,
10:47:57 <Ampera> they have far more cores, and the caches don't mean much
10:48:07 <Ampera> they bench far higher than Intel's CPUs and the boards are famously cheaper
10:48:18 <Ampera> their propositions are far more capable than Intel's for the same price
10:48:25 <Nothing\> yeah i shouda looked for a benchmark comparison chart
10:48:34 <Ampera> my 3950X beats close to every single chip Intel makes
10:48:42 <Nothing\> that was my original intention but i had too much on my mind that i wanted to do and forgot
10:49:04 <Ampera> I tend to use passmark for ballpark figures, but believe me, Intel's chips are hotter and slower
10:49:18 <Ampera> and with AMD just about to release their refreshed chips (if they haven't already), you'd be stupid to buy Intel right now
10:49:37 <Nothing\> and besides that, i really ddn't care if they were slower
10:49:39 <Ampera> this from a person who ran Intel for years before my 3950X
10:49:44 <Nothing\> as long as they could fulfill my needs
10:49:59 <Ampera> your needs are to get the best bang for your buck
10:50:00 <Ampera> AMD has that
10:50:00 <Nothing\> which is to run games like just cause 4 with decent graphics and framerate
10:50:09 <Nothing\> mainly just cause 4
10:50:21 <Nothing\> and maybe do some move editing later on
10:50:33 <Nothing\> get back into making recuts
10:51:33 <Nothing\> and when you're cutting out hundreds of seciotns of a video and repiecing them together, evvery cpu cycle counts
10:51:52 <Ampera> yeah AMD is really beating Intel there
10:51:52 <Nothing\> *splicing them together
10:52:17 <Ampera> Gaming is where Intel sorta makes some difference, but not a significant one, but with productivity, AMD is far and wide destroying Intel right now
10:52:29 <Nothing\> maybe i'll wait a bit longer to get a new computer
10:52:41 <Nothing\> when i can afford a $20000 dsutop
10:52:43 <Ampera> I know you haven't built a PC in a while, but AMD genuinely used to be the shit option because they had stinky old chips that they just pumped up
10:52:47 <Ampera> but that's Intel
10:53:10 <rust_collector> nah, just get one, when you buy one, it will already be outdated. don't worry about it
10:53:12 <Nothing\> no no, i built AMD machines
10:53:25 <Ampera> No, you've built old AMD machines, AMD has changed drastically.
10:53:26 <Nothing\> every single machine i built was AMD
10:53:33 <Nothing\> yeah
10:53:36 <Ampera> They're not FX AMD anymore
10:53:45 <Nothing\> i still judge stuff on l3 cache
10:53:55 <Nothing\> and core speed
10:53:57 <Ampera> cache means nothing in isolation
10:54:00 <Ampera> and clock speed means even less
10:54:14 <Ampera> literally the only time you can ever compare clock speed EVER is between the exact same CPU
10:54:37 <Nothing\> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=629577&CatId=114
10:54:46 <Nothing\> that's what i was thinking of getting
10:55:13 <rust_collector> Tigerdirect.com
10:55:14 <rust_collector> Notice: Order Verification Required
10:55:14 <rust_collector> Your order requires additional verification by phone. Please call (888) 278-4437 to complete your order with a sales representative.
10:55:19 <rust_collector> looks great!
10:55:25 <Nothing\> bah
10:55:29 <Nothing\> eina minuten
10:56:31 <Ampera> Nothing\, that CPU costs more and performs worse than the 3800X
10:57:13 <Ampera> and takes more power (and thus produces more heat)
10:57:16 <rust_collector> but it will run powerpoint, and... that... email
10:57:27 <Nothing\> hrm
10:57:31 <Nothing\> hence shorter lifespan
10:57:38 <Ampera> not really
10:57:59 <Ampera> Heat is important because chips today are really defined by their ability to boost/turbo
10:58:01 <Nothing\> what's wrong with excepss power consumption and heat disippation
10:58:06 <Ampera> which can only happen if you have good cooling and thermals
10:58:13 <Nothing\> yeha what's up with that boost/turbo thing
10:58:16 <Ampera> essentially the CPUs overclock themselves
10:58:33 <Ampera> but will do it if they know they have the thermals and power to achieve it
10:58:50 <Ampera> if a chip takes more power for the same performance, it won't be able to turbo as high
10:58:52 <Nothing\> what's up with cpus only full speed when you tax them
10:59:00 <Nothing\> power managemente?
10:59:10 <Ampera> Don't need to go full speed if you're not taxing it
10:59:21 <Ampera> otherwise you just waste power and stress the chip
11:00:07 <Ampera> the 12 core 3900X is honestly not far from the price of that i7 and it has 4 more cores
11:00:39 <Ampera> It's getting a new refresh chip too, so if you wait a bit you could get the 3900X cheaper or its refresh for more performance at a similar price
11:00:57 <Ampera> https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-10700K+%40+3.80GHz&id=3733 and https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Ryzen+9+3900X&id=3493
11:02:57 <rust_collector> well, you people have a good night
11:03:15 * Ampera tucks rust_collector
11:03:16 <Ampera> in
11:03:18 <Ampera> good night
11:15:25 <Nothing\> phew well then
11:15:37 <Nothing\> i just passed out uncontrollably all of a sudden
11:16:05 <Nothing\> just woke up to my mom coming down and commenting i have an imprint of the corner of my disk in my facehead
11:16:16 <Nothing\> *desk
11:16:46 <Nothing\> how the hell long was that anyways? i haven't got timestams on
11:29:34 <Nothing\> test
11:29:53 <Nothing\> hrm well thot timestamp doesn't work
11:30:13 <Nothing\> test
11:31:02 <Nothing\> i've got: [%H:%M:%S]
11:31:28 <Nothing\> which i figurude out would igve hours:mins:secs but just gives me hours:mins:S
11:31:47 <Nothing\> oh there it goes
11:32:12 <Nothing\> i accidentally clicked cancelled when i tried to fix the seconds problems initially so it didn't save it when i put a % in front of the S
12:00:12 <Ampera> Nothing\, 12 minutes
12:00:29 <Nothing\> not bad at alll
12:00:37 * Ampera hugs Nothing\
12:00:47 <Nothing\> i passed out again and now i have a desk corner shaped dent in my forehead
12:00:52 * Nothing\ hugs Ampera <3
12:00:55 <Ampera> anyways, tl;dr buy AMD they are better than Intel right now
12:01:22 <Nothing\> yeah i'm gonna do more research into thiis
12:01:42 <Nothing\> a lot more resereach
12:02:01 <Ampera> my new microwave does the thing
12:02:07 <Nothing\> not just into CPUs, but vid calrds and memories
12:09:06 <Nothing\> you ever watch adventure time Ampera?
12:10:20 <Ampera> Nothing\, no I'm not much into children's shows
12:10:40 <Ampera> stuff I watched as a kid on occasion just for the throwback
12:11:15 <Nothing\> it's not really a children's show
12:11:22 <Nothing\> i mean it appears to be one on the surface
12:11:30 <Ampera> it's on a children's network
12:11:31 <Nothing\> and yeah the first couple of seasons are kinda kiddy type
12:11:42 <Nothing\> but the show grows as it ages, just a person would
12:11:52 <Ampera> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
12:12:00 <Ampera> just not my thing, and I don't like calarts in general
12:12:21 <Nothing\> the pluts become deeper, the story arcs become more emotional, the characetrs age and mature
12:12:22 <Ampera> though there are worse implementations from what little I have seen
12:12:46 <Nothing\> it just doesn't really start until season 3 or 4 so it takes a bit of watching before you et to the good stuff
12:13:14 <Nothing\> but once you do, it's hands down some of the best tv there is these days with the story arcs
12:13:34 <Ampera> I don't watch many new shows, as it's my opinion the quality of televised media has been on a downward trend for a while
12:13:37 <Nothing\> come to think of it, i had the same impression when i first watched it
12:13:49 <Nothing\> that it's just a pointless kiddy show and there's nothing to it
12:14:01 <Ampera> kiddy shows don't have to be pointless
12:14:21 <Ampera> it's just that I grew up when they were about comedy and abstract/crass humor
12:14:43 <Ampera> I don't tend to attach well with the very deep storylines that people put into their shows like that, it's just not my thing
12:15:45 <Ampera> I was born into the tail end of the golden age of Nick, 4KidsTV, and PBS content, which is where most of what I enjoyed resided
12:15:58 <Ampera> Sonic X and Astro Boy remain the two shows I really hold onto from that time
12:17:01 <Nothing\> ah i see
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15:21:45 <hsn> lol this one is epic https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/03/man-offers-to-resign-after-showing-during-livestreamed-video-meeting
15:22:22 <hsn> there is a video also
15:23:03 <hsn> https://youtu.be/10m4LuaB_ow
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19:41:38 <DL3CE> Morning
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19:44:18 <DL3CE> Morning ..
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19:57:47 <Watcher> Hello DL3CE
19:57:47 <EEVBlog> Hello there, Watcher!
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20:02:32 <hsn> i found one crazy pasta chef women .. look at the guy behind .. what he is doing https://www.instagram.com/p/CBiqxRdgvZy/?igshid=b9mmz5g0td35
20:03:51 <hsn> https://www.instagram.com/p/CAA3G-spVmB/?igshid=zucf7hq4v63k
20:14:23 <DL3CE> Just grabbed those: https://www.ebay.de/itm/333533198317
20:14:30 * DL3CE loves CDIP
20:14:54 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: Stock Image FAILS: Happiness is a nice used heatsink. https://t.co/toK6kPVJJk
20:16:38 <DL3CE> But hmm 1974/75 datacodes? Must be quite early ones?
20:17:06 <DL3CE> Wikipedia says the 4000 series came out in 1968, but those would be the first types?
20:23:57 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: Stock Image FAILS: Ah, the little known reversed 10A fused probe technique. The mark of a true professional. https://t.co/LzfzNIXeEJ
20:27:59 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: This is totally a thing. https://t.co/7yzyjZmxBj
20:28:59 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: Stock Image FAILS: Ah, the little known reversed 10A fused probe technique. The mark of a true professional. https://t.co/LzfzNIXeEJ
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20:30:42 <Lemon> waddup mah bois
20:32:00 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: Stock Image FAILS: Try the battery tester mode first. https://t.co/UIok8L8jvm
20:41:22 <DL3CE> Nothing beats that one:
20:41:55 <DL3CE> https://i.pinimg.com/originals/68/f3/6a/68f36a35d2748e791afd6b0942affce8.jpg
20:42:05 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: Nicholas “Shaun” Tre: @eevblog Very sad but I don't think it will be the last museum to close. We the UK national computer museum in Bletchley Park who have been crowed funding to keep going.
20:46:06 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Best caption wins The Internet https://t.co/eDtgLaOYFq
20:48:07 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: World of Engineering: Looks expensive 💰 https://t.co/EP0ncwEZaC
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21:31:28 <hsn> heh whats this rod that get melten and he still can hold it with bare hands : https://youtu.be/ut5DXxK1dvk?t=184
21:51:29 <rust_collector> regular old steel, it looks like
22:31:53 <Lemon> pff my vapemail didnt came
22:31:57 <Lemon> sadlife
22:33:53 <Lemon> but I soldered 4 decades already
22:34:01 <Lemon> its starting to look like something
22:41:10 <rust_collector> we need something
22:44:06 <Lemon> im quite happy I found a way to solder everything so that it looks professionnal
22:46:50 <Lemon> 5 decades left, then I connect them
22:46:56 <Lemon> and cut the box
22:47:16 <Lemon> I hope residual resistance wont be too high with interconnects