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00:00:15 <Ysjoelfir> rusty, then just pour some concrete or just make your new mountain explode
00:00:38 <hsn> at 1:00 he is asking him .. ok .. which world wars u know and he answer like .. i know there is 1st war .. and 2nd war .... and ..................
00:01:04 <hsn> ok ok i change my answer .. erm .. "2 answers" .. "2 answers" .. i mean "2 wars"
00:01:10 <Ysjoelfir> XD
00:01:25 <Ysjoelfir> thats hilarious
00:04:09 <rust_collector> world wars...
00:07:07 <rust_collector> i like the map of bahrain. some stuff up there, and 1.5 roads going to the south
00:10:05 <Ysjoelfir> yep, noticed that, too^^
00:10:16 <Ysjoelfir> however, I'm on my way home now. cu later all
00:10:25 <rust_collector> good night
00:19:57 <hsn> which 1.5 roads ur talking about
00:20:26 <rust_collector> the 1.5 roads going from the people and down south?
00:20:52 <rust_collector> well, as there seems to be 1.5 of them, there is not much to choose from?
00:23:42 <hsn> oh that the big famous hiway
00:23:46 <hsn> highway
00:23:53 <rust_collector> I dunno?
00:24:09 <rust_collector> I do not think I have heard about any road at all down there
00:24:31 <rust_collector> https://www.google.com/maps/place/Bahrain/@26.0400349,50.5078287,11z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x3e48524e6a47a211:0x2e9450e2dbda1046!8m2!3d26.0667!4d50.5577
00:24:40 <hsn> https://snipboard.io/qflUMN.jpg
00:26:18 <hsn> https://snipboard.io/H60fZv.jpg << no.1 is not famous it goes to artificial islands down there ..
00:26:43 <hsn> no.2 is famous and lots of cars
00:28:26 <rust_collector> ok
00:28:35 <rust_collector> it still looks a bit weird
00:39:08 <hsn> how so ?
00:41:08 <rust_collector> well, half the country has one road... it looks unbalanced
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00:47:02 <rust_collector> oh, a new lemon
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01:05:06 <hsn> this must be the thickest pcb prepreg i've ever seen : https://snipboard.io/y3ZFPp.jpg
01:05:13 <hsn> 8.2" :)
01:05:57 <rust_collector> ok, have fun, I am going to work
01:06:34 <hsn> ok im leaving work
01:06:37 <hsn> cu bye
01:06:42 <rust_collector> night
01:37:13 <hsn> https://www.instagram.com/p/CCGUA81jSTH/?igshid=1qk0vkfbrs1ra
02:26:58 <Ysjoelfir> Lemon!
02:27:10 <Ysjoelfir> What does my new phone do in France!?
02:27:10 <Lemon> yes !
02:27:28 <Lemon> it stopped to get some omelettes ?
02:28:32 <Ysjoelfir> and why did it travel from Barcelona to Zürich and back to the Saint Martin of Crows at the Alpes in the Cote dAzur?
02:28:51 <K> baguette!
02:28:55 * Ysjoelfir would like to have a nice omlette now <3
02:29:15 <Ysjoelfir> That could well be the reason, K
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03:15:03 <Ysjoelfir> So, since not only my mobile phone died but my DECT phone is also pretty much toast I'm still looking for a replacement. My phone Guru steve30, are you still there? :D
03:25:15 <coppice> Parcel owner to Zürich
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03:38:51 <K> git push
03:38:57 <K> oh ffs not again
03:40:01 * Ysjoelfir pushes K's buttons
03:40:13 <K> you git
03:44:07 * steve30 prods Ysjoelfir
03:45:21 <hsn> git add origin
03:52:13 <Ysjoelfir> hi steve30 :)
03:53:01 <Ysjoelfir> I'm unsure which phone I should get. I have to say that I, after searching for some hours, somehow like the aesthethics of the snom phones.
03:53:48 <steve30> I like my Snom. Only thing I don't care much for is the ring tones, but they're OK.
03:54:08 <steve30> I got a slightly older model cheaply on ebay because they are quite expensive
03:54:56 <Ysjoelfir> I noticed that they are very expensive, yes.
03:55:40 <Ysjoelfir> its actually hard to justify to get eg a D370 if you can get the Fanvil X4G for 60€....
03:59:26 <steve30> the D120 looks like a good option for something basic
04:00:16 <Ysjoelfir> it does, but I would love to have something with a slightly better display. like the D335
04:01:40 <steve30> I guess you have to pay for fancy things like colour displays
04:01:55 <Ysjoelfir> I don't like that option :P xD
04:02:21 * steve30 prefers mono displays
04:03:42 <Ysjoelfir> well, I like fine-pixel monochrome displays. But I think those "2 lines + 1 button line" displays are a bit... meh
04:33:23 <steve30> If its of any interest, I think halcyon has a Sangoma phone.
04:33:37 <steve30> I might have been one with a big colour display... I gorget
04:33:39 <steve30> *forget
04:34:23 <Ysjoelfir> I have never heard of that brand.
04:34:29 * Ysjoelfir now needs to investigate
04:51:39 <Ysjoelfir> steve30? sorry to bother you again :D What do you think about the Siemens OpenStage 40G SIP? just found that on a local advert for 20€
04:52:44 * steve30 googles
05:01:34 <Ysjoelfir> I never looked into the open stage phones before as I thought they can only work on those huge siemens hipath things
05:03:52 <steve30> Looks reasonable. Some proprietary ones also have a SIP model available. You may have to take pot luck as to whether it will play nicely with your service, but it might be worth a go.
05:05:29 <steve30> yeah, looks like those siemens ones have different firmware options for different protocols, like the Ciscos do
05:08:38 <Ysjoelfir> I have worked with that one in a jov like.... 15 years ago and I realy liked it
05:08:41 <Ysjoelfir> *job
05:08:52 <Ysjoelfir> na, more like 10 years
05:09:18 <Ysjoelfir> but we had it with the hipath things, so... yeah.
05:09:25 <Ysjoelfir> I think I'll try it :)
05:10:17 <Ysjoelfir> if it works it would be a great phone for 20 quit
05:11:14 <steve30> might be worth a try then
05:16:15 <Ysjoelfir> the seller has other interesting things on ebay I just noticed. I might get .... erm.... that! https://www.ebay.de/itm/DRAGER-Evac-40-fahrbare-Absaugpumpe-mit-4l-Sekretglas-unbenutzt/174269031063?epid=3024923394&hash=item28933e6297:g:s~kAAOSwTqBerT2z
05:16:27 <Ysjoelfir> no idea what I would do with it but hey :D
05:17:20 <hsn> ok im bored from shoppping
05:17:21 <steve30> Not sure that'll make calls
05:17:24 <hsn> https://i.imgur.com/dsg7xLB.png
05:17:48 <Ysjoelfir> it could make creepy sounds while you make a call, steve30
05:17:56 <Ysjoelfir> hsn - so you now venture into 3D printing?
05:18:05 <hsn> no way
05:18:09 <hsn> i hate it
05:18:27 <hsn> i just want to build the slider for camera/phone mount
05:20:12 <hsn> what is that jar on ebay
05:21:17 <Ysjoelfir> its a pump to extract matter out of a body
05:29:21 <hsn> so .. u put lemon?
05:31:20 <hsn> ah its drager not danger :)
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05:37:08 <steve30> Ysjoelfir, you should try calling halycon's voip sometime
05:39:08 <Ysjoelfir> why would that be beneficial, besides listening to Halcyon's soothing voice?
05:39:43 <steve30> For someone to chat to I guess :)
05:39:52 <Ysjoelfir> hehe :D
05:40:12 * Ysjoelfir is struggling with one last big question
05:41:18 <Ysjoelfir> dark grey with even darker grey ("lava" - for me is lava supposed to be red, but... meh.) or weird baby blue with silver and dark grey ("ice blue")?
05:42:19 <steve30> i'd be tempted to go with lava i think
05:42:58 <Ysjoelfir> I agree
05:43:20 <steve30> I suppose lava is red when its molten, and grey when its solidified and cooled down
05:45:35 <Ysjoelfir> hm. well, I accept that :P
05:47:43 <steve30> Halcyon's hold music sounded like the kind of music you get in porn.
05:48:45 <Ysjoelfir> lol?^^
06:03:26 <Ysjoelfir> I wonder if I can add custom ringtones to that siemens thing then
06:04:28 <Ysjoelfir> on my old Fritz!Fon I had various ringtones for various things. When my mum called there was the monkey island theme, then I had the Dubstep Gun theme from saints row when SWMBO called,....
06:05:52 <Ysjoelfir> it was always pretty epic when your phone rang like that - https://youtu.be/Qo6bklfI184?list=PLUhfh1zAvqelkkSx_1Z7L0v8ui6_haN7i&t=20
06:07:17 <steve30> I rather like these ring tones
06:07:17 <steve30> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hplakXdvd8c
06:08:14 <Ysjoelfir> I have listened to those for soooo long, which is why I wanted something different. but since that siemens thing will be for my freelancing I might choose a more... standard sound :P
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08:26:00 <rust_collector> moooorning
08:29:57 <Ysjoelfir> hi rusty
08:30:28 <rust_collector> hi ysjo
08:31:07 <rust_collector> did you have any drama here while I was gone?
08:39:24 <Ysjoelfir> nah, not realy. was just working.
08:39:33 <Ysjoelfir> And now I'm nearly off to bed
08:39:43 <rust_collector> mmmhfff
08:40:21 <rust_collector> I probably should bed too, I have the office hours shift tomorrow
08:41:11 <Ysjoelfir> that sounds like "need to get up early"
08:42:15 <rust_collector> nahh, if I am up around 8, that will be ok
08:43:27 <rust_collector> I think I will have a "work slow" day tomorrow
08:43:32 <rust_collector> and on friday
08:46:39 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omBreIHzTQM
08:47:30 <Ysjoelfir> on friday I'll drive to my uncle, get my two motorcycles, drive back. yay.
08:47:46 <Ysjoelfir> around 600km.
08:48:03 <rust_collector> I want you to tow your bike after your bike
08:48:46 <Ysjoelfir> heh :D would be fun
08:49:04 <Ysjoelfir> sadly the heavyer bike is the.... more broken one
08:49:41 <rust_collector> no problem, the law says you can tow 1.5 times the weight of the towing vehicle
08:51:17 <Ysjoelfir> xD
08:51:20 <Ysjoelfir> well, no
08:51:24 <Ysjoelfir> however, gn8 :)
08:51:31 <rust_collector> arrgh
08:51:34 <rust_collector> good night
09:02:38 <coppice> rust_collector: aren't you supposed to comply with the vehicle maker's towing spec?
09:02:49 <rust_collector> nope
09:03:07 <rust_collector> it is important to ignore such things
09:04:08 <rust_collector> Hmm, now that you mention that. have you looked at the towing specs of a car, in different markets?
09:04:52 <coppice> towing specs get quite complex
09:05:03 <rust_collector> I do not remember what car I looked up, but in the us, it could tow a.. pretty much nothing. but it was close to 1500kg in germanistan
09:05:38 <coppice> they might not be the same car. the transmission specs vary a lot with the market
09:07:17 <rust_collector> I am pretty sure there are some differences, but I still think a xxx should be somewhat close to a xxx in a different country. I think the thing is that you are supposed to buy a pickup or van, of you want to tow stuff over there
09:08:45 <coppice> in Europe millions of cars regularly tow caravans
09:08:52 <rust_collector> yep
09:11:44 <rust_collector> yeah. caravans... I am so happy that the wife managed to sell her old one.
09:12:08 <rust_collector> she actually made money from that thing, which feels weird
09:12:48 <rust_collector> but ok, it is time for the nap. good night
09:17:25 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: Sam Zeloof: Receipt printer Polaroid camera - @Raspberry_Pi cam + @adafruit thermal printer + a few days of cramming electronics into a small box = almost exactly what I hoped for, terrible B&W instant prints and full res color images stored on SD card or accessible over WiFi! https://t.co/adGsD7Aabz
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16:03:39 <Ysjoelfir> mornings
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16:14:56 <Ysjoelfir> cool. In the other channel Ampera times out, here its the bot :D
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16:21:23 <Ysjoelfir> ah :D
16:56:19 <hsn> https://resources.altium.com/p/pcb-core-vs-prepreg-material-what-designers-need-to-know
16:56:34 <hsn> morning Ysjoelfir
16:57:13 <rust_collector> morning Ysjoelfir
16:57:20 <rust_collector> morning hsn
16:57:26 <rust_collector> morning rust_collector
16:57:32 <rust_collector> morning morning
16:57:43 <hsn> morning rust_collector
16:57:44 <rust_collector> morning morning morning
16:57:53 <hsn> morning ^ morning
16:58:21 <rust_collector> well, I am already late
17:02:36 <Ysjoelfir> hi hsn and rusty
17:02:52 <Ysjoelfir> I see my money flapping out of the window :X
17:03:14 <rust_collector> that is what they do.
17:05:05 <Ysjoelfir> [08:10:49] I was just interested in a Scopecart from Tek
17:05:05 <Ysjoelfir> [08:11:07] now that guy send me this list http://saskra-engineering.de/labor.xlsx
17:05:06 <Ysjoelfir> [08:11:43] being like "If you are collecting Tek Scopes, maybe you are or you know someone that might be interested!"
17:10:28 <rust_collector> ok, have fun explaining that to swmbo.... I am going to work.
17:30:01 <Ysjoelfir> yeah... x.x
17:30:04 <Ysjoelfir> have fun at work
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17:43:33 <Ampera1> my server decided to just not
17:50:46 <Ysjoelfir> heh :D wb Ampera1
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17:51:43 <Ysjoelfir> Progress!
17:52:16 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, just signed the entire family up for a new mobile plan with Deutsche Telekom yesterday
17:52:28 <Ampera> we now all have true unlimited data and free(ish) netflix
17:52:49 <Ysjoelfir> gratulations :) are they over there also so freakishly expensive?
17:53:16 <Ampera> 200USD/mo for 5 people
17:53:34 <Ysjoelfir> thats very reasonable
17:53:43 <Ampera> even by US standards
17:54:03 <Ampera> and the way carriers work here, a lot of providers are actually subproviders, so they sell service provided by other companies
17:54:13 <Ampera> so I had T via tracfone via straighttalk before
17:54:15 <Ysjoelfir> I mean, its way more than I pay (around 10 times as much actually), but its also WAY more than I need. I am happy with my 1GB per month
17:54:33 <Ampera> but now that I just have T, my service is excellent
17:54:49 <Ampera> I did a speedtest in the car on the way back: https://www.speedtest.net/result/a/6239206211
17:54:50 <Ysjoelfir> yeah, we have this sub sub sub sub chains here as well, you can easily get to the mother company
17:55:09 <Ysjoelfir> nice, thats pretty quick
17:55:14 <Ampera> Aye, especially in the US
17:55:19 <Ampera> Latency is excellent too
17:55:36 <Ampera> VoWIFI also works now, which it didn't before
17:55:38 <Ampera> so that's good
17:55:46 <Ysjoelfir> heh. just made a speedtest for the internet from my work PC
17:55:57 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.speedtest.net/result/9695393872
17:56:22 <Ysjoelfir> thats roughly 6 times slower than my internet at home.
17:56:50 <Ysjoelfir> ah
17:56:59 <Ysjoelfir> let me connect to my NAS and make on there, too
17:58:32 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, https://www.speedtest.net/result/9695403436
17:58:34 <Ampera> this is my home connection
17:58:55 <Ysjoelfir> what the
18:00:54 <Ampera> we have the beans where I live
18:00:59 <Ampera> potatoes and sausages
18:01:12 <Ysjoelfir> thats damn fast :D
18:01:31 * Ysjoelfir admires Ampera's freakishly fast sausages
18:02:20 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, I live in one of the rare few places in the US that has half-way admirable internet access
18:02:46 <Ysjoelfir> the best we can get here is what I have, 300Mbits
18:03:05 <Ampera> VDSL2?
18:03:12 <Ysjoelfir> Supervectoring
18:03:25 <Ampera> most of our phone companies went from ADSL to FttP
18:03:48 <Ysjoelfir> But it seems my NAS is still limited by whatever. Probably the slow as hell hardware that thing has. https://www.speedtest.net/result/9695417186
18:10:40 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Business credit card expires next month. No idea how many things get auto deducted. Will just wait for stuff to stop working...
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19:19:50 * Halcyon offers Ampera a nibble of his sausage
19:20:03 * Ampera smacks Halcyon with a 5G tower
19:20:50 <Halcyon> Great, now I have COVID-19
19:26:45 <Ysjoelfir> :O
19:26:48 * Ysjoelfir hides in fear
19:26:56 <Halcyon> Who the hell is this micksmelanie person on the forum
19:27:04 <Ysjoelfir> wutt?
19:27:06 <Halcyon> I was almost convinced it was AI for a moment
19:27:28 <Ysjoelfir> link?^^
19:27:28 <Halcyon> Oh just the posts, he is obviously from a non-English speaking background, but then has the UK flag?
19:27:36 <Halcyon> Also his email address he used to sign up looks spammy
19:27:43 <Halcyon> https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/help-choose-opinion-smartphone/
19:27:56 <Halcyon> He has been flooding the forum with all kinds of crap and random posts like this one
19:28:59 <Ysjoelfir> oh
19:29:02 <Ysjoelfir> I see
19:30:54 <Ysjoelfir> I hate people that dont use any punctuation whatsoever and then go on and connect every word maybe with a filler or connecting word but most of the time they dont they just go on and on and on with their endlessly long sentences that nobody can or want to read as its annoying as fuck and I cant immagine that its particularely easy to write like this as I personally am struggling to write this now without feeling pain in my brain doing so
19:31:19 <Ysjoelfir> ouch, that hurt :X
19:32:59 <Halcyon> Yeh that hurts to read
19:34:33 <Ysjoelfir> and its actually realy hard to write, too. I can't immagine why one would willingly do that
19:35:41 <Ysjoelfir> Hm. My new phone now went from Barcelona to the Côte d'Azur. I wonder what stupid way its taking
19:35:52 <Halcyon> What did you order?
19:36:40 <Halcyon> Ysjoelfir, when are you going to avail yourself to have a chat to us on Discord?
19:36:46 <Ysjoelfir> The Xiaomi/Redmi Note 9 Pro (the international nore 9 Pro, not the Indian note 9 Pro which is the Note 9S internationally, while the international note 9 Pro is the note 9 pro max in india)
19:38:14 <Ysjoelfir> Potentially in the Weekend? I'll be picking up my new motorbike on friday, so I'll be back on saturday and would be more or less available then I guess
19:39:40 <Halcyon> Nice
19:40:16 <Ysjoelfir> Nice that I'll be available on saturday or a nice phone? :P
19:42:13 <Halcyon> Hehe
19:49:07 <Ysjoelfir> goooood! that micksmelanie person is annoying me oO I should stop reading his posts
19:49:14 <Halcyon> See what I mean?
19:49:25 * Ampera hugs Halcyon
19:49:33 * Ysjoelfir needs a hug, too
19:50:50 * Ampera gives Ysjoelfir a kiss
19:51:00 <Halcyon> Aw where's mine?
19:51:10 * Ampera smacks Halcyon across the face
19:51:24 <Halcyon> That'll do I guess
19:51:31 <Halcyon> How are you friend?
19:52:02 <Ysjoelfir> lol^^
19:52:09 * Ysjoelfir hugs both of you
19:52:11 <Halcyon> YAY!
19:52:30 <Ampera> I am awegfawegaweg
19:52:33 <Ampera> today is the last day of work
19:52:40 <Halcyon> Mine too
19:52:45 <Halcyon> I have a 4-day weekend this week :D
19:52:53 <Ampera> yeah but because you're a stinking strayian you have to work friday
19:52:56 <Ampera> or something
19:52:57 <Ampera> idk
19:53:06 <Halcyon> I work 4 day weeks, but 10 hour days
19:53:08 <Ampera> I guess you have those off
19:53:26 <Ampera> maybe I should ask my boss if I can start doing that
19:53:27 <Halcyon> So I have every Friday off, which I can make any day my RLD really, so next week I moved it from Friday to Monday
19:53:39 <Ampera> probably not, we have issues with meetings conflicting and things like that
19:53:52 <Ysjoelfir> wth is that supposed to be? https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/moisture-and-electronics/msg3111456/#msg3111456
19:53:53 <EEVBlog> You can get that on the internet now?
19:54:02 <Ysjoelfir> obviously
19:54:03 <Halcyon> Apparently :P
19:54:22 <Halcyon> Anyone heard of Cypress branded EPROMs?
19:54:29 * Ampera smacks Halcyon
19:54:35 <Halcyon> You already did!
19:54:44 <Ampera> felt like doing it again
19:55:09 <Halcyon> You do that to me when you come here and I'll hit you back, you realise that? :P
19:55:24 <Ampera> is that supposed to discourage me?
19:55:32 <Halcyon> *shrug* Just saying
19:55:44 <Halcyon> But if you want some slap and tickle, you only need ask
19:56:22 <Ampera> I'm not gay, so no thanks
19:56:31 <Halcyon> You're not?
19:56:34 <Ampera> ...
19:56:49 <Ampera> ...
19:57:04 * Ampera smacks Halcyon for real this time
19:57:05 <Ysjoelfir> Please stand by. Processing...
19:57:07 <Halcyon> So you just pretend to be queer... or ? :P
19:57:15 <Ampera> >pretend
19:57:16 <Ampera> explain this
19:57:33 <Halcyon> You and I have had several discussions about things
19:57:41 <Halcyon> You have never once said you didn't like cock
19:57:55 <Halcyon> Well... except your own
19:57:59 <Halcyon> But that's a different matter
19:58:01 <Ampera> that doesn't make me gay
19:58:04 <Ysjoelfir> pretend. Verb [I]. To behave as if something is true when you know that it is not, especially in order to deceive people or as a game
19:58:17 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, now in German
19:58:28 <Halcyon> Hehehe
19:58:51 <Halcyon> The only German I know I learnt from Hogan's Heroes
19:58:58 <Halcyon> Well that and Kai
19:59:06 <Ysjoelfir> Vorspielen. Verb [S]. Sich verhalten als ob etwas wahr wäre, obwohl bekannt ist, das dies nicht der Fall ist. Häufig genutzt um Menschen zu täuschen oder in Form eines Spiels.
19:59:16 <Ampera> 10/10
19:59:23 <Ysjoelfir> Thanks.
19:59:36 <Ampera> I almost understand it too, even without the English version
19:59:40 <Ysjoelfir> Seems like I somehow understand german. Don't ask me how that happened.
19:59:50 <Ampera> Halcyon, male on male sex is not something I enjoy, let's put it like that
19:59:53 <Ampera> doesn't do it for me
20:00:18 <Halcyon> Mmmk
20:00:24 <Halcyon> I honestly don't know what does do it for you
20:01:20 <Ysjoelfir> Cupcakes.
20:01:25 <Ampera> the idea that someone in the world is capable of excusing my intense, grotesque mental disfigurements for the purpose of expressing genuine loving affection
20:01:36 <Ampera> one of the sickest fucking fetishes imagineable
20:01:59 <Ampera> of course, just like any terrible fetish, I have no intent of ever experiencing for real
20:01:59 <Ysjoelfir> someone said that to me before
20:02:31 <Halcyon> Yes but does the gender of that person matter to you Ampera?
20:02:43 <Ampera> No.
20:02:51 <Ampera> Mine does.
20:03:03 <Halcyon> I know yours dows
20:03:04 <Halcyon> does
20:03:37 <Ampera> I experience a sex drive, but can't do anything about it because I just am not attracted to anything or anyone as I am
20:03:51 <Ampera> so I'm basically eternally horny with almost no recourse
20:04:12 <Halcyon> That sucks
20:04:37 <Halcyon> I'm also eternally horny but for different reasons :P
20:04:42 <Ysjoelfir> That sucks big time oO
20:04:42 <Ampera> Halcyon, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuhsVL1KrgM
20:05:03 <Halcyon> Haven't heard this song in ages
20:05:30 <Ampera> Until and if I solve that problem, I expect to be alone forever.
20:05:40 * Halcyon cuddles Ampera
20:05:47 <Ampera> I want chicken
20:06:01 <Halcyon> All I have is Cabanossi I've been nomming on
20:06:06 <Halcyon> I need to leave some for pizza
20:06:27 <Ampera> I don't know if I should abstain from my eat out day or do it earlier
20:06:36 <Ampera> because I did nothing but eat out for earlier this week and have tons and tons of food
20:06:44 <Halcyon> Didn't you have burgers this week already?
20:06:45 <Ampera> so I should probably abstain, I've spent enough money already
20:06:57 <Ampera> burgers, two instances of pizza, and mickey D's
20:07:11 <Halcyon> So your "eat out day" spans 4 meals now? :P
20:07:21 <Ysjoelfir> I'll have to buy groceries this evening. SWMBO wants to have a healthy chicken cucumber salad this night
20:07:30 <Ampera> Halcyon, two were exceptions and not purchased by me
20:07:36 <Halcyon> Fair enough
20:07:58 <Halcyon> Ysjoelfir: You need to try my tray baked chicken fajita recipe one day
20:08:04 <Halcyon> Super easy to make, but delicious
20:08:04 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, my dad was kind enough to get me some mushrooms and some bratwurst
20:08:11 <Ampera> so I'm good on groceries at the moment
20:08:50 <Ysjoelfir> I would love to, Halcyon :) Do you mind sending me the recipe to my mail like you did with the creamy leek pie?
20:09:00 <Halcyon> Sure
20:09:01 <Ysjoelfir> Ampera - I love shrooms! shrooms with bratwurst is great
20:09:27 <Ysjoelfir> thanks :) you still have my address?
20:09:33 <Halcyon> Can you send the address to me again, it's not coming up in my history
20:09:39 <Ysjoelfir> heh. sure
20:10:49 <steve30> hi Halcyon
20:11:08 <Ampera> Ich habe süß Italienisch Wurst mit Spaghetti und pilze Soße
20:11:15 <Ampera> if that made any sense
20:11:28 <steve30> I got a phone call from an Australian number earlier. Any idea who it was?
20:12:01 <Ysjoelfir> it was pretty good Ampera :) some minor errors, but I'm sure every german would understand it.
20:12:19 <Ampera> is habe the correct word
20:12:33 <Ampera> and I'm not sure what the adjective capitalization rules are, if any
20:13:13 <Ampera> The demonym is also a best guess, so that may be wrong
20:14:12 <Ysjoelfir> you would use "Ich habe ..." it if you will have it right now, otherwise you would use "Ich werde .... haben". adjectives are always written in lowercase, except if you want to make a noun out of it. like "red" - "rot" (lowercase, adjective), "the red" - "Das Rote" (noun, uppercase)
20:14:24 <Ampera> I have it right now.
20:14:24 <K> hello
20:14:31 <Ysjoelfir> hi K and steve30 :)
20:14:40 <steve30> hello
20:14:58 <Ampera> In English, Italian Sausage would be uppercase, the adjective too as it's a proper demonym
20:15:09 <Ampera> actually no
20:15:14 <Ampera> it would be Italian sausage
20:15:23 <K> you silly sausage
20:15:24 <Ampera> so the complete opposite, because we don't capitalize improper nouns
20:15:40 <Ampera> Ich habe would be correct, though, as that was the intent
20:15:53 <Ampera> I have sweet Italian sausage with spaghetti and mushroom sauce
20:17:55 <hsn> https://iteq.stackup.design/app/simulations
20:18:34 <Ysjoelfir> then you're right :) only errors then would be: "süße italienische". the adjective is describing a noun, so you usually add an e or en or es, depending on the gender. Also you would make it "Pilzsoße", the good old german composition words :P
20:18:51 <Ysjoelfir> fun fact steve30 - yesterday I bought that Openstage thing. today I was chatting with our admins about it and he handed me a Yealink T42G. lol.
20:19:13 <steve30> hehe
20:19:29 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, Germans do love their compound words
20:19:43 <Ysjoelfir> yes, we do indeed :D
20:19:53 <steve30> If you've got two, you can call yourself :)
20:19:53 <Ampera> and your damn grammatical gender
20:21:04 <Ysjoelfir> I'm sure that will come in handy, steve, as SWMBO could call me when I'm in the lab. ampera - actually many germans hate that gender thing. We have regular discussions about the correct gender of things that didn't originate in germany, like Nutella.
20:22:10 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, because this is a hot topic of debate in English, do you have a fallback article for an unknown personal gender?
20:22:22 <Ysjoelfir> "Es heißt DIE Nutella!" - "Nein, DAS Nutella, denn es ist eine Sache!" - "Nein, es heißt DER Nutella, denn es ist DER Nussnougatbrotaufstrich!"
20:22:30 <Ysjoelfir> well... kind of
20:22:46 <Ampera> I know das is the neuter, but so is our it
20:23:18 <Ysjoelfir> you could say "Das", meaning "it", which would be grammatically correct, but most certainly a person would be offended being colled like that.
20:23:35 <Ysjoelfir> there was a new invented word for that case I just can't remember right now, let me look that up
20:24:09 <Ampera> Here invented words are not popular at all, despite all words being invented
20:24:29 <Ampera> There are two solutions in English, either to simply pick one if unknown, or to use they
20:24:37 <Ampera> both have validity, and varying levels of acceptance
20:25:11 <Ampera> To simply pick he/she use to be most common, with he being the most often used fallback, but then people got offended
20:25:31 <Halcyon> There you go Ysjoelfir, I think I remembered it all
20:25:37 <Halcyon> Hey Steve :)
20:25:48 <Halcyon> I'll be back, going to prepare dinner.
20:26:05 <steve30> mmm, dinner
20:26:27 <Ysjoelfir> thanks Halcyon :)
20:27:41 <Ysjoelfir> Ampera - I googled it. its actually pretty easy, at least in letters. you don't write Sehr geehrte/r anymore, you should now write "Sehr geehrt*". Sehr geehrte/r would be male/female for "Dear mr./mrs."
20:27:56 <Ampera> article though
20:28:04 <Ysjoelfir> yes, thats where it gets tricky
20:28:21 <Ampera> mr./ms. is incredibly seldom used here, at least these days
20:28:46 <Ampera> "mx." is the unofficial solution, but nobody likes it, and it'll piss about as many people off using it as just picking one
20:28:56 <Ysjoelfir> suggestions are to just leave the article and use the full name. Like not say "Der Kai hat" or "Die Sabrina hat", but you would use "Horst Müllermeier hat"
20:29:00 <Ampera> forms of address are just not necessary here, though
20:29:24 <Ampera> What if the name is unknown, though
20:29:28 <Ampera> as that's the most practical application
20:29:37 <Ampera> as in, they entered the bank, they swam in the pool, they ate dinner
20:30:00 <Ampera> That's starting to be used as the ambiguous article, instead of just the third person plural
20:30:03 <Ysjoelfir> You could use "Eine Person", being "a person"
20:30:18 <Ampera> That's a nonspecific article.
20:30:25 <Ysjoelfir> exactly.
20:30:37 <Ysjoelfir> there is no real solution for the problem it seems
20:30:38 <Ampera> Ambiguous specific articles are a major point of linguistic contention in English
20:31:05 <Ampera> though, I suppose you could better refer to it as pronouns, not articles
20:31:13 <K> Du bist ein Aluminium Schwein, Horst Müllermeier
20:31:26 <Ampera> Maybe that's caused the confusion here, I'm calling pronouns articles
20:31:37 <Ampera> articles are pronouns, but not he/her/she/he
20:32:44 <Ampera> Another question, Ysjoelfir, is how often are articles misused, and how noticed do those mistakes go
20:32:51 <Ysjoelfir> Nah, I understand what you mean. But there doesn't seem to be a solution for that problem yet^^
20:33:15 <Ampera> Here you can get the shit beaten out of you by poorly built soyboys for using the wrong one
20:33:49 <K> what is a soyboy
20:34:08 <K> ah.
20:34:29 <Ampera> K, referring to a weak man, primarily one who consumed great amounts of soy, but in general, a wimp of a being
20:37:09 <K> how does one get the shit beaten out by a wimp being?
20:37:31 <Ysjoelfir> same here, yes^^
20:37:44 <Ysjoelfir> but I'm off for lunch now :) cu in half an hour or so
20:38:18 <Ampera> good god does Netflix's library suck ass
20:38:29 <Ampera> wanted Chicken Run, don't have it
20:38:33 <Ampera> No Star Trek, which is expected
20:38:37 <Ampera> no butch cassidy and the sundance kid
20:38:56 <K> https://lookmovie.ag/movies/view/0120630-chicken-run-2000
20:39:16 <Ampera> No BttF
20:39:38 <Ampera> No Yellow Submarine
20:40:12 <Ampera> No Zulu or Apollo 13
20:40:21 <Ampera> no FMJ
20:40:34 <Ampera> wtf, I thought Netflix was supposed to have this massive library of neat movies
20:41:13 <Ampera> They seem to have a ton of their originals, but they look like ass the most of them
20:43:04 <K> ass ass
20:57:21 <Ysjoelfir> re re
20:59:21 <steve30> Ampera, Chicken Run is available on a DVD on my shelf. Feel free to come and borrow it ;)
21:00:13 <hsn> can u catch a running chicken ?
21:01:31 <Ysjoelfir> yes
21:01:45 <Ysjoelfir> you can catch many running things with a shotgun
21:03:38 <hsn> thats how u define catch ?
21:03:39 <hsn> :P
21:04:03 <Ysjoelfir> you never said it needed to stay alive?
21:04:44 <hsn> thats ur default catch scheme? :P
21:05:58 <Ysjoelfir> I usually don't have to catch stuff, i just let them go wherever they want and then grab them. like my cats.
21:06:46 <K> a pussy grabber, oh my.
21:08:48 <hsn> K, getting horny? xD
21:13:09 <Ysjoelfir> So, Halcyon, I have now read every single post of that guy and I feel like my head is some undefined mush now
21:13:43 <Ysjoelfir> did he realy create like 10 topics with 50 posts just asking the same question about "preserving" his chinese knockoff super nintendo cartdirge?
21:14:14 <steve30> the micksmelanie guy?
21:15:34 <Ysjoelfir> yes
21:15:47 <steve30> that was an amusing read :)
21:16:06 <Ysjoelfir> for the first 5 minutes, yes
21:16:12 <Ysjoelfir> but did you read every single post?
21:16:21 <steve30> yes
21:16:38 <Ysjoelfir> you must have balls of steel
21:17:06 <Ysjoelfir> or you must be Duke Nukem, chewing Bubble Gum while reading that
21:17:27 <steve30> so, how many insertions /does/ a micro-sd socket support?
21:17:41 <Ysjoelfir> at least umpteen
21:17:48 <Ysjoelfir> and at max amany
21:28:35 <hsn> https://www.instagram.com/p/CCIL-XshR5-/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
21:35:52 <Ysjoelfir> XD
22:13:26 <hsn> https://circuitboards.com/wp-content/uploads/EverythingYouWanted.pdf -> Everything You Ever Wanted to Know About Laminates But Were Afraid to Ask
22:36:11 * Ysjoelfir bookmarks that
23:42:27 <steve30> I replied to a micksmelanie post :D
23:42:36 <Ysjoelfir> lol, you too?
23:42:42 <Ysjoelfir> I JUSt did the same
23:42:49 <steve30> I rather like the battery he posted which has a 'charing voltage'
23:43:10 <Ysjoelfir> well, the batteries name is Dodgee, so....
23:45:00 <Ysjoelfir> SCNR, had to respond to you
23:46:53 <steve30> With someone like him it probably will be a charing situation :)
23:51:41 <Ysjoelfir> potentially^^
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