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01:52:48 <rust_collector> hey-O
01:52:52 <Nothing\> hey man
01:52:57 <Nothing\> feels like ages since i've been in here
01:53:21 <rust_collector> only 8 days
01:53:38 <Nothing\> yeah but i wasn't on long, i had to rush out to the clinic or something
01:53:53 <rust_collector> yeah, I think you were in a hurry
01:53:57 <Nothing\> same with the time before that
01:54:16 <rust_collector> zso, where are you going today?
01:54:33 <Nothing\> probably to see my grandfather in the hospital later, he's dying :/
01:54:42 <Nothing\> just got back from my weekly clinic visit
01:54:53 <rust_collector> mmmh, that is no fun.
01:55:15 <Nothing\> yeah, he's hanging on longer than i thought, which i'd hate to say it but kinda sucks cuz i was hoping he wouldn't stick around and suffer too much
01:55:31 <Nothing\> he's in palliative care so they've got him doped to the gills on dilaudid
01:56:10 <Nothing\> he had a stroke a few weeks ago and his dementia's just gone full tilt since then
01:56:23 <Nothing\> didn't even know who my mom was the one time
01:57:44 <Nothing\> he got pneumonia last week from aspirating vomit and they just took him off everything for it, but he's still hanging on
01:58:09 <Nothing\> i think that was at his request, as per a DNR type deal
01:58:34 <Nothing\> how've things been with you?
01:58:44 <rust_collector> I hope my grampa starts playing with explosives or something exciting, before he logs off
01:59:15 <rust_collector> meh, I am doing ok. back at work, and... not much new
01:59:34 <Nothing\> that's good, at least you're keeping busy
01:59:46 <rust_collector> I still want to smoke, lol
01:59:55 <Nothing\> ah when did you quit?
02:00:21 <rust_collector> I didn't, I just have not had one since friday
02:00:25 <Nothing\> i'm still vaping, but i stopped smoking pot about 6-8 weeks ago or so, don't miss it at all
02:00:42 <Nothing\> ah i see, you should try, take advantage while you have the chance
02:01:44 <Nothing\> it's funny, i've found vaping is a lot harder to give up than smoking, even cutting down the nicotine level in my juice, the fact that i almost always have an ecig in my hands and i can just take a puff whenever i want makes it so much harder, with cigarettes i at least had to go outside which made it easier to put off
02:02:05 <rust_collector> well, as I am at one week now... seems to be ok so far.
02:02:08 <Nothing\> even at night i sleep with one in bed with me and another on my bedside table lol
02:02:16 <rust_collector> hah
02:02:28 <Nothing\> yeah when i was successful for more than a few days i found the hard parts were day 3 and the 2 week mark
02:02:49 <rust_collector> for me, I tend to have issues on day 4
02:02:59 <Nothing\> i've been thinking about trying chantix again, that stuff is a miracle drug for quitting smoking, only stop smoking aid that ever worked for me
02:03:22 <rust_collector> ok, what does it do?
02:03:38 <Nothing\> it's amazing stuff, i just took it as prescribed and after 2 weeks or so i just stopped smoking and i didn't even have to try, i just didn't feel like smoking anymore, no withdrawal, no irritability, no cravings, nothing
02:03:53 <rust_collector> weird
02:04:01 <Nothing\> in short, it binds to nicotine receptors without activating them, so when nicotine comes along, there's nothing for it to bind to
02:04:08 <Nothing\> so you don't get any effects from smoking
02:04:33 <rust_collector> oh, so you just keep smoking, and lose interest, sort of
02:04:50 <Nothing\> it can be a little rough while you get used to it, it can be a bit emotionally tumultuous, some people get suicidal in rare cases, but i've always handled it pretty well despite my issues with bipolar disorder and anxiety
02:04:54 <Nothing\> yeah exactly
02:05:24 <Nothing\> like even during the 2 weeks leading up to quitting, i found i enjoyed it less and i would put my cigarettes out after smoking half
02:05:40 <Nothing\> but again, there was no real withdrawal to speak of
02:06:22 <Nothing\> it's really amazing, i've tried everything under the sun to quit and nothing came even close to being that effective
02:06:27 <rust_collector> sounds like the sort of thing I should mix in with the wifes pills, lol
02:06:30 <Nothing\> the first time i quit it required literally zero effort
02:06:45 <Nothing\> haha yeah but it'd probably make her moody
02:07:09 <rust_collector> meh, could not get much worse
02:07:20 <Nothing\> lol i keep joking with my mom that i'm gonna put ativan in her food if she doesn't start learning to relax properly
02:08:17 <rust_collector> moms are not supposed to relax
02:08:28 <Nothing\> they are when they're into their senior years
02:08:42 <Nothing\> mine still works in a factory though, it's good cuz it's kept her diabetes in check
02:08:44 <rust_collector> they will always be mom
02:09:13 <Nothing\> my great aunt had leukemia and they gave her a couple of years to live when she was diagnosed, but since she had a farm she worked on constantly she wound up living over 25 years with it
02:09:31 <Nothing\> and she only died after she had to sell the farm and move into an apartment, within less than a year she was gone
02:10:34 <Nothing\> my mom kept saying she probably got it from living near high voltage lines all her life, which i thought was bullshit, but apparently there's genuine evidence to support the EMF from high voltage lines causing blood cancers
02:11:26 <Nothing\> i was always under the assumption that if the radiation isn't ionizing it won't cause cancer
02:11:41 <rust_collector> we have a guy at work, that spend his weekends placing "crystals" onder powerlines
02:11:59 <Nothing\> oh man that reminds me of this thing i saw on, i think it was amazon or ali express
02:12:03 <rust_collector> I dunno, but it is not like it hurts anything, so have fun
02:12:34 <Nothing\> it was a post for an EMF meter and one of the customer reviews was talking about how he was testing the EMF given off by his various crystals
02:12:44 <Nothing\> i forget what the ultimate consensus was, i was too busy facepalming
02:13:18 <Nothing\> it seems a lot of those EMF meters are marketed towards ghost hunters and paranormal type kooks
02:16:28 <rust_collector> I had a chat with a guy last week, he was into magnets on fuel lines. He did try to explain, but...
02:16:40 <Nothing\> big clive did a video about those not long ago
02:17:01 <Nothing\> it's all bullshit
02:17:05 <rust_collector> anyway, he was going to buy a motorcycle, to test them better.
02:17:14 <Nothing\> about as useful as plugging a capacitor into your mains to save power
02:18:01 <Nothing\> although apparently the capacitor thing DOES work, but only if you're running a lot of inductive loads and are being billed for reactive power
02:18:11 <Nothing\> ie you run a factory
02:18:13 <rust_collector> well, yes
02:18:42 <Nothing\> it's funny cuz i remember early on in my EE studies i got the idea of using a capacitor to reverse the phase shift from an inductive load
02:19:01 <Nothing\> it's always neat when i think of an idea and find somebody smarter than me already figured it out
02:19:11 <rust_collector> hah
02:19:47 <Nothing\> oh man, i bought a TI-36X Pro the other day, best damn calculator i've ever used
02:20:09 <Nothing\> my only problem is it doesn't do graphs, but aside from that and not being programmable it seems about just as functional as a TI-86
02:20:35 <rust_collector> The only thing I figured out, was the vw diesel thing. I have said for years that they can not be as efficient as they say
02:20:50 <rust_collector> not that anyone wanted to hear that
02:21:05 <rust_collector> but... yeah
02:21:07 <Nothing\> eh the numbers are all... i dunno, biased
02:21:21 <Nothing\> not biased but they tweek the results to look better than they are
02:21:25 <Nothing\> biased methodology
02:22:40 <Nothing\> heh playing with this ti-36 though, it just makes me wanna buy a TI-86, but they're friggin $130 which is apparently just as much as an HP Prime, which seems to be superior in every way as far as i can tell
02:23:01 <rust_collector> I am not sure if you remember (or even heard about it) but there was a similar thing going on with heavy trucks in the us, maybe 20-30 years ago. they simply used a different program in the control box when they were plugged in to a diagnostic system
02:23:34 <Nothing\> yeah i'm sure they use all sorts of tricks to get the most out of the mileage in testing
02:23:46 <Ampera> Hi Nothing\
02:23:55 <Nothing\> hey Ampera, how're you doing man?
02:23:56 <Ampera> how do
02:24:02 <Ampera> Alright I suppose. I'm at school
02:24:06 <Nothing\> sorry i had to take off so suddenly the last couple times we talked, i felt bad about that
02:24:08 <rust_collector> no, mileage is a real thing, that the customers care about. it is the emissions they are tricking
02:24:12 <Ampera> np
02:24:14 <Nothing\> that's good, school keeps you busy
02:24:22 <Nothing\> post secondary?
02:24:25 <Ampera> fuck no, I'm dropping out after this semester
02:24:25 <rust_collector> hey Ampera, have fun
02:24:27 <Ampera> shit's retarded
02:24:29 <Ampera> college
02:24:33 <Nothing\> aww dude, how come?
02:24:40 <Nothing\> what are you taking?
02:24:42 <Ampera> because I'm going to go into electrical instead
02:24:51 <Nothing\> you know, that's probably what i would do
02:25:06 <Nothing\> i'd love to go to school for EE, but i know i'd probably be very bored during the first year
02:25:10 <Ampera> All school gives me is stress and paperwork.
02:25:29 <Ampera> and I only have 12 credit hours this semester, next one I am *forced* to take 18.
02:25:33 <Nothing\> yeah that's the one thing keeping me from actually going to school, i'm terrible with deadlines causing stress and i know i wouldn't be able to keep up
02:25:58 <Nothing\> so part of my plan is to learn everything i need to know BEFORE i go to school, so i don't have to study or do anything lol
02:25:59 <Ampera> so I knocked off all my classes and I'm going for a union apprenticeship
02:26:08 <Nothing\> but then i'm basically just paying like $50k for a piece of paper
02:26:11 <Ampera> lol, that's not how it works
02:26:24 <Nothing\> lol i know, i probably won't ever go to school for EE, sadly
02:26:26 <Ampera> Your assignments will have nothing to do with what you want to do for the first two years.
02:26:45 <Ampera> They will be boring writing and math from poorly paid teachers.
02:27:02 <Nothing\> my uncle went to school for EE and dropped out in his first year, he wound up working in vancouver doing props for movies like x-men and one of the lesser friday the 13th movies
02:27:03 <Ampera> Instead, I'm going for a trade where I get paid for the time I train.
02:27:09 <Nothing\> or stargate atlantis, he worked on that
02:27:09 <Ampera> and I get paid very very well
02:27:21 <Nothing\> earth final conflict, a buncha cool stuff like that
02:27:35 <Ampera> The union journeyman wage is 40/hr, and get 40% of that when I start, which is 15.40/hr
02:27:38 <Nothing\> but i think it's all visual type props, nothing electrical
02:27:41 <Ampera> but every six months it goes up 5%
02:27:43 <Nothing\> holy crap man, that's good
02:27:53 <Nothing\> yeah that sounds like a great path to follow
02:27:54 <Ampera> and I get benefits like no fucking tomorrow
02:28:04 <Nothing\> yeah totally pursue that
02:28:12 <Ampera> three different types of pension, paid trade school program, and free (and really good) health insurance.
02:28:20 <Nothing\> not to mention, it's something you enjoy so you're basically getting paid to have fun
02:28:24 <Ampera> yee
02:28:39 <Ampera> but, to not burn my bridges, I'm finishing this semester.
02:28:57 <Ampera> I do have a really stupid C# programming class, which is online
02:29:12 <Nothing\> yeah you'll still no doubt have to do some stuff you dislike
02:29:15 <Ampera> Visual C#, so I have to use Windows, and was using the school's computers, but they're rubbish
02:29:27 <Nothing\> i was just thinking how shitty it'd be if i went to school having to go over stuff like ohm's law again
02:29:42 <Ampera> idc, I'll do what I need to do
02:30:18 <Ampera> anyways, I've set up a Windows 2016 VM which is running on my home PC, and remote access into it with Xpra is absolutely awesome
02:30:18 <Nothing\> though in fairness, i still don't know mesh and node analysis, i've been meaning to learn for ages
02:30:23 <Ampera> it works perfectly, even on the chickenshit internet I have here
02:30:37 <Nothing\> that's the thing, since i'm self taught, there are a lot of gaps in my knowledge where i jumped ahead to the juicy bits
02:31:18 <Nothing\> i've been considering getting a PC lately, i was talking to my mom about it and she said she'd go halves with me for one for christmas
02:31:31 <Nothing\> oh yeah, my trial's coming up on the 2nd and 4th, dunno how i feel about it
02:31:39 <Nothing\> part of me is excited, part of me is terrified
02:31:48 <Ampera> Isn't there a time limit that you're in danger of hitting?
02:32:12 <Nothing\> i asked my lawyer about that and he said it's very rare that that actually becomes a factor
02:32:13 <Ampera> like, how long can they leave you on the back burner to simmer?
02:32:35 <Nothing\> it's been 18 months and according to the law 18 months is about the limit, so it's right in time
02:32:58 <Nothing\> but if i am found guilty, i can still file an appeal, which means it gets dragged on even more
02:33:10 <Nothing\> but going through all of the material for the case, i'm pretty confident i can beat this
02:33:31 <Nothing\> that in itself has been a massive undertaking, like 400 pages of documents to go through and make notes of
02:33:37 <Ampera> gd
02:33:55 <Nothing\> yeah, thankfully a lot of it is duplicate, and pictures of evidence they seized
02:34:06 <Nothing\> and just pictures of the apartment when they did the raid
02:34:11 <Ampera> Hopefully you make the law eat shit :P
02:34:47 <Nothing\> i'm sure i will, usually i have no hope when it comes to things like this, but i have more hope for this than anything in my life
02:35:25 <Ampera> Life is risks, and most of life's risks don't come crashing, they come very very gradually
02:35:50 <Nothing\> exactly, the things in life that have any worth will come with a lot of time and work
02:36:18 <Nothing\> and i've gotta say, i'm glad this happened because it's caused me to become a better person, i've improved myself in so many ways since it happened
02:36:43 <Nothing\> become more patient, i've fixed up my relationship with my mom to get it to be where i want, better than it's been since i was a kid
02:37:07 <Nothing\> which is great cuz she's the only one who's ever stuck by me through everything but i always treated her so bad, so i'm glad i'm treating her the way she deserves to be now
02:37:24 <Nothing\> did i tell you, i even stopped smoking pot about a month or two ago
02:37:44 <Nothing\> and i've decreased the amount of methadone i'm taking
02:38:13 <Ampera> that's sweet, Nothing\
02:38:16 <Nothing\> i figure after the trial i'll talk to my doctor about officially decreasing it, right now i'm still prescribed the same amount but i don't take my full dose every day
02:38:17 <Ampera> sorry, I was taking a screenshot
02:38:21 <Ampera> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/310478241989263371/647823171218702347/Screenshot_6.png
02:38:23 <Nothing\> heh no worries
02:38:43 <Nothing\> ooh that's a sexy desktop
02:38:46 <Ampera> That VM, and the software which displays it is running about 3 miles away
02:38:47 <Nothing\> what os is that?
02:38:55 <Nothing\> that's pretty awesome
02:38:58 <Ampera> The host is Arch Linux, and the VM is Windows 2016
02:39:14 <Nothing\> i dabbled in VMs for a little bit, running VMWare on windows to be able to use linux without a dual boot
02:39:30 <Nothing\> i always wanted to set one up for windows 98 but i could never get it to work
02:39:43 <Ampera> All of my PCs run either Linux or Unix, and while I'm not a fan of VMs, I'm using one here for Windows
02:39:54 <Nothing\> heh i'm actually able to run dosbox on this pi pretty well, i was playing Sim Farm the other day
02:40:03 <Ampera> That's what I used my Pi for when I did
02:40:34 <Nothing\> yeah it works suprisingly well on a pi
02:40:54 <Nothing\> i can even use circuitmod pretty well on this, even the web version
02:41:04 <Nothing\> https://lushprojects.com/circuitjs/circuitjs.html
02:41:05 <Ampera> Did you end up getting a Pi 4?
02:41:08 <Nothing\> i've been using this version
02:41:22 <Nothing\> nah there was nothing about the 4 that really got me excited, except maybe more RAM
02:41:30 <Ampera> The CPU is way way faster
02:41:38 <Nothing\> circuitmod works alright on here, but i almost always have to turn the speed down
02:42:28 <Nothing\> or if i have a really complex circuit, it won't run at any decent speed, but i rarely have circuits that complicated, there's just one of the example circuits, i think a modem that runs really slow cuz it has so much in it
02:42:57 <Nothing\> yeah, the QAM 256 modulator/demodulator
02:43:26 <Nothing\> oh man my beetus is making me piss like a racehorse today
02:43:26 <Ampera> Well I'm working on remote access Xorg instances on my server, and while they're a bit off from being finished, if you'd want to hop on one every so often to do something that needs speed, I'd have no qualms
02:43:34 <Ampera> lol
02:43:48 <Ampera> They'll be like VMs, but they're all going to be running on the same machine.
02:43:55 <Nothing\> that's pretty cool
02:44:18 <Ampera> On demand, and sharing all the resources, that way I can fit way more instances on the same hardware
02:44:23 <Ampera> and there's also an HTML5 web client
02:44:24 <Nothing\> i realized the other day it's been a year and a half since i've used windows at all, and i still miss it every day
02:44:42 <Ampera> It's probably been about that long for me, at least as a daily driver, and I don't miss it whatsoever
02:44:56 <Nothing\> there's this one 2d physics sim called algodoo that i miss sooooo much, and now that i'm more familiar with math and physics i feel like it'd be a great learning tool for me
02:45:22 <Ampera> Well the instances will have Wine support, so maybe you can do it there
02:45:41 <Ampera> I've thought about having people pitch in so I can buy nicer servers to run them on, then let people use them as they like
02:45:51 <Nothing\> like you can run simulations and generate graphs for various things like velocity/time, or position, stuff like that and plot derivatives and integrals and there's just so much you can do with it
02:46:20 <Nothing\> or you can just make a trebuchet and use balls of different densities to break a house or brick wall you made
02:46:40 <Nothing\> it's sorta like ksp like that, you can use it for fun and/or learning
02:46:58 <Nothing\> which, come to think of it, i also miss dearly
02:47:09 <Ampera> I've never played KSP actually
02:47:36 <Nothing\> also i've been wanting to buy a TI-86 lately but they're like $130, or about the same price for an HP Prime and i was thinking i might as well just buy a computer and run an emulator on it
02:47:49 <Ampera> Ti calcs are garbage
02:47:51 <Ampera> HP forever
02:47:51 <Nothing\> i used to have an emulator for the ti-86 with a ROM image i got on bit torrent
02:48:01 <Ampera> I've actually been planning to build my own calc
02:48:04 <Nothing\> nah dude, i got a TI-36X the other day and i love this thing
02:48:08 <Nothing\> that's a great idea man
02:48:21 <Nothing\> you should check out logisim, it's a great program for simulating logic circuits
02:48:26 <Ampera> Not doing that
02:48:35 <Ampera> It's going to be based around a Pi zero
02:48:41 <Nothing\> ah nice
02:48:48 <Ampera> the point isn't to do something fancy EE wise, but to make something that's as rugged and functional as possible
02:48:51 <Nothing\> nah dude, do it with discrete transistors! lol
02:49:09 <Nothing\> actually i could barely get an XOR gate to work using RTL with discrete transistors so screw that
02:49:10 <Ampera> The idea is I want to bring it with me when I go work on jobs, and for it to be as hard to break as possible
02:49:18 <Nothing\> not to mention a 1 bit adder took up an entire breadboard
02:49:36 <Ampera> That being said, I will not build it unless I can use a VFD
02:50:29 <Ampera> I found a good 4 line graphical one I think I'll use, that is if I can't find a larger one at a reasonable price.
02:51:09 <Nothing\> that'd be awesome, the VFD
02:51:28 <Ampera> I love VFDs
02:51:36 <Ampera> they're my absolute favourite screen tech
02:51:36 <Nothing\> i was thinking too, using a pi like that, it gives you the opportunity to expand its functionality without much change to the overall hardware
02:52:06 <Nothing\> like you could have it generate tables based on a formula
02:52:10 <Nothing\> or eventually generate graphs
02:52:13 <Ampera> I also want to use cylindrical liion cells, the sort used in e-cigs
02:52:18 <Ampera> so I can replace them and bring spares
02:52:36 <Nothing\> heh i've got one of those sitting around, i found it in the middle of the street, it still works but damned if i know what to do with it
02:52:41 <Nothing\> i don't even have the means to charge it
02:52:53 <Ampera> They're quite cheap.
02:53:05 <Nothing\> yeah they seem very ubiquitous these days
02:53:19 <Ampera> Which makes them perfect to use as replacable cells
02:53:21 <Nothing\> my ecigs just use the flat pack type cells, not sure what they're called
02:53:35 <Ampera> lipo cells
02:53:48 <Nothing\> well yeah, but there's a specific name for them, like the model number or whatever
02:53:53 <Ampera> oh
02:54:18 <Ampera> Well anyways my friend I'm helping out's comming soon and I need to get to work myself, so I'm going to head out
02:54:21 <Ampera> have a good day, Nothing\
02:54:21 <Nothing\> yeah i've never cared enough about lipo cells to memorize the model numbers of the major common ones
02:54:33 <Nothing\> yeah you too man, was good talking to you for a decent amount of time finally
02:54:36 <Ampera> yee
02:54:41 <Nothing\> take care =)
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04:50:26 <IDE> hi @T3sl4
04:50:40 <IDE> someone one here told me to check with you about power supplies :D
04:51:28 <IDE> any recommendations or pointer on where to look for a 12v dc linear power supply. I'm looking something for hifi audio use
05:06:06 <IDE> anyway no worries if you are not here right now, I'll keep looking online
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10:08:02 <Halcyon> Morning all
10:09:15 * T3sl4 pokes Halcyon's eyes, nyuk nyuk nyuks
10:09:53 <Halcyon> Meanie
10:10:05 <Halcyon> Although it would hurt less than my shoulder at the moment
10:12:02 <steve30> hi
10:12:51 * steve30 gives Halcyon a shoulder massage
10:13:30 <steve30> But I will expect a hip and ankle massage in return :p
10:13:31 <Halcyon> Aww nice
10:13:36 <Halcyon> Of course
10:14:04 * steve30 purrs
10:16:26 <Halcyon> Probably should go shopping soon, decide what we are having for dinner
10:16:31 <Halcyon> It's kind of cool and overcast today
10:16:57 * steve30 fires the rain drops at Halcyon
10:17:11 <Halcyon> It's moist outside so I'd say we had a bit of rain overnight
10:17:45 <steve30> I've just been putting some floorboard in the loft
10:17:55 <Halcyon> Also, it bothers me that "Thames" is pronounced "Temms"
10:18:15 <Halcyon> Oh yeh? What are you planning for up there?
10:18:34 <steve30> well, I boarded a load of it years ago. Now I'm doing some more.
10:18:51 <Halcyon> Is it for storage or another living area?
10:19:24 <steve30> Storage, and, umm, computering :)
10:19:32 <Halcyon> Hehe, server loft?
10:20:54 <steve30> I might have shown this before...
10:20:55 <steve30> http://stevecoates.net/photos/loftdesk.JPG
10:22:30 <Halcyon> I haven't seen it
10:22:45 <Halcyon> What a cute space
10:22:54 <Halcyon> It'd be nice and quiet up there
10:23:01 <steve30> I need to build a bigger desk
10:23:25 <coppice> steve has lofty ambitions
10:23:29 <steve30> quiet? Its a racket up there. Roofs don't provide good sound insulation.
10:23:30 <Halcyon> :)
10:23:34 <Halcyon> Oh?
10:26:51 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ee_JPhpC8Jc
10:26:54 <Halcyon> What a cool story
10:31:14 <steve30> Cool
10:31:23 <steve30> Although I don't drink Coke anymore
10:31:38 <Halcyon> I rarely drink soft drinks
10:31:40 <steve30> I haven't used a vending machine for years
10:32:21 <steve30> I wonder how much a 500ml coke is these days. I remember back in the days when it was 80p :)
10:32:39 <Halcyon> *shrug*
10:35:38 <steve30> I remember back in the early 2000s, our local leisure centres got Pot Noodle vending machines. They looked weird.
10:35:48 <Halcyon> Mmmmm noodles
10:38:29 <T3sl4> send noods
10:38:38 <Halcyon> Hahaha
10:40:48 <steve30> I wouldn't mind some food now
10:41:30 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWW00ydnixE
11:00:01 * steve30 wonders what food to have
11:10:20 <Halcyon> Bacon and eggs
11:21:43 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Yep, mains water pressure will get a jammed old oring out of a pipe, with much hilarity I might add. https://t.co/KVS1Qq9iLy
11:23:10 <steve30> Maybe I'll stick a pasty in
11:23:31 <Halcyon> Nom
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11:26:57 <Halcyon> Welcome back narayan
11:36:26 <Halcyon> I might go to the shops, buy stuff for dinner. No idea what to make yet.
11:37:28 * steve30 wonders if halcyon is a good cook
11:55:39 <damian> hello!
11:55:40 <EEVBlog> Hello there, damian!
11:55:46 <damian> how are you EEVBlog?
11:57:14 <Halcyon> Hey damian
12:07:49 <damian> wow the tesla cybertruck announcement was wanky, wasn't it
12:10:27 <T3sl4> it's certainly doing its job
12:10:36 <T3sl4> everyone's posting about it
12:10:47 <T3sl4> huge advertising leverage there
12:12:43 <damian> yeah
12:15:38 <damian> i mean, i don't have anything against the truck. it's cheap, it has the space, it's electric
12:18:05 <steve30> Had a message on recon.com from a guy whose idea of a conversation is "You ok"
12:18:15 <damian> are you ok?
12:18:39 <damian> maybe his fetish is limited words for same outcome
12:18:51 <damian> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_K-L9uhsBLM
12:19:38 <T3sl4> are you ok annie?
12:54:01 <coppice> gather all the OKs together in a sort of OK Corral
13:00:41 <steve30> Time for bed I think
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14:38:32 <Halcyon> Night Steve
14:39:13 <Halcyon> damian: I didn't expect much more from good ol' Tesla engineering
14:39:20 <Halcyon> Half-arsed... that'll do
14:39:25 <damian> truth
14:39:31 <damian> but what was everyone wearing!
14:39:45 <Halcyon> *shrug* Didn't look that hard
14:39:56 <Halcyon> I just watched the fail when the glass cracked... multiple times
14:40:17 <damian> yeah, so just before they cracked the glass they tested it to the side .. people were wearing shit out of back to the future future
14:40:30 <Halcyon> Maybe that was the point?
14:41:08 <damian> yeah but they did it like they were serious
14:44:08 <Halcyon> I don't think Musk knows himself
14:44:40 <Halcyon> What I'd love to know is what will happen to all these eletric cars in 5 years time when the batteries start to fail and they are quoted a shit-load to replace them.
14:44:48 * Ampera sneezes at Halcyon
14:44:59 <Halcyon> Some bloke in Canberra was quoted around $30k I think to replace the Lithium batteries in his Nissan Leaf
14:45:03 <Halcyon> Hey Ampera :)
14:45:11 <Ampera> how do
14:45:12 * ThunderSqueak hands Halcyon a cookie
14:45:18 <Halcyon> Not bad, shoulder is still sore
14:45:33 <Halcyon> Aww nice :-) I just baked banana and blueberry muffins
14:45:39 <ThunderSqueak> cool
14:46:01 <Halcyon> With Wholemeal flour, so they are healthy :P
14:46:18 <ThunderSqueak> spent the day outside, it is almost December and was 40F and up today
14:46:36 <ThunderSqueak> all that matters to me is if they have treenuts :/
14:46:44 * Halcyon converts to real units
14:46:53 <Halcyon> Oh that's cold :(
14:47:03 <Halcyon> No treenuts
14:47:04 <ThunderSqueak> everyone puts walnuts and such in banana bread... means I cannot eat it
14:47:17 <Halcyon> I normally do, but I didn't have any
14:47:21 <Halcyon> I like nuts
14:47:24 <Halcyon> (Shutup Ampera)
14:47:25 <ThunderSqueak> yeah cold but not freezing, it was raining
14:47:33 * Ampera licks Halcyon's nuts
14:47:37 <Halcyon> :P
14:47:46 <ThunderSqueak> last time I had them I ended up in the ER with my airway swollen shut :(
14:47:53 <damian> mmmmm-mmmm-mmm-muffins!
14:48:03 <Halcyon> I really feel for people with food allergies.
14:48:04 <ThunderSqueak> because some asshole at a D&D game did not beleive that I was allergic to them
14:48:11 <damian> same
14:48:20 <Ampera> I don't like banana bread.
14:48:23 <Halcyon> I love food too much, it would suck if I couldn't eat any of it
14:48:27 <ThunderSqueak> and when I went to the bathroom, decided to taint my food with pistachios
14:48:30 <ThunderSqueak> :/
14:48:30 <Halcyon> Ampera, I don't either
14:48:43 <Halcyon> But I had bananas which were about to go bad, so rather than throw them out
14:48:46 <damian> i used to hate banana bread, these days i'm impartial
14:48:53 <damian> i won't buy it, but i'll eat it if someone has it and im hungry
14:48:56 <ThunderSqueak> i like banana bread
14:49:05 <ThunderSqueak> I just can't buy it, have to make at home
14:49:16 <Halcyon> damian: Same. If it's there, I'll have a nom. But I can take it or leave it
14:49:32 <ThunderSqueak> I am terrified atm :/
14:49:36 <Halcyon> Why?
14:49:42 <ThunderSqueak> going in for surgery next monday
14:50:02 <Halcyon> Oh no. Nothing too serious I hope?
14:50:08 <ThunderSqueak> it is
14:50:13 <Halcyon> :(
14:50:31 <ThunderSqueak> anyway
14:50:36 <ThunderSqueak> terrified
14:50:46 <damian> i can't blame you
14:50:53 <damian> what surgery is it?
14:50:54 <Halcyon> Just drink wine until it comes time to fast :P
14:51:00 <T3sl4> Halcyon: https://i.imgur.com/dFeLK3V.jpg
14:51:12 <ThunderSqueak> personal
14:51:16 <damian> cock-a-burra
14:51:18 <ThunderSqueak> but scary
14:51:21 <damian> that's fair enough
14:51:31 <damian> i'm going to assume it's a breast reduction
14:52:01 <ThunderSqueak> heh, no
14:52:04 <ThunderSqueak> anyway
14:52:31 <Halcyon> T3sl4: So cute
14:52:51 * T3sl4 hugs ThunderSqueak
14:52:54 <Halcyon> Except they get up early in the morning
14:53:28 <Halcyon> T3sl4: https://pics.me.me/this-is-the-reason-you-dont-need-an-alarm-clock-21347119.png
14:54:01 <ThunderSqueak> heh
14:54:02 <gremlinz> especially when you also have a tin roof
14:54:12 <Halcyon> Hahah I have Colourbond
14:54:25 <gremlinz> fkn wearing army boots
14:54:27 <Halcyon> But it has enough sarking/insulation that I don't hear anything
14:55:19 <Halcyon> I have a cockatoo that comes and taps on the window until it gets a snack
15:25:12 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: That time when you find a 500MHz probe in your boot. https://t.co/WDjnciXeex
15:28:13 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: And a pair of extra long EZ hooks. Yes, my car boot has that much grass crap in it. https://t.co/52Pk2tWRMP
15:54:48 <Halcyon> What a cool shop: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAs7adDdcaQ
15:54:57 <Halcyon> I could spend a lot of money in there
16:04:19 <Ampera> So I have a Visual C# programming class, and my most recent assignment is to read data from a text file and display it in a listBox
16:05:03 <Ampera> Instead of doing the normal thing and using the built-in C# functions for file management, I decided to do something unique and crazy and I built a C DLL using C stdio functions to read the data, and then I imported the function in the C# program and read the data from that
16:05:05 <Ampera> and it works perfectly
16:05:21 <Halcyon> \o/
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16:27:29 <T3sl4> Halcyon: i should stop there some time, it's about an hour south of here
16:31:03 <Halcyon> Would you mind seeing if they have any interesting old computer bits for me?
16:31:13 <T3sl4> make a list
16:32:10 <Halcyon> Mainly I/O cards. I have plenty of hard disk drives and cables
16:32:39 <Halcyon> Also have a decent amount of RAM, but anything "interesting" or rare, I shall buy. I can send you cashola via Paypal or similar
16:33:15 <Halcyon> For me, priority would be interesting I/O and drives (tape, magneto-optical) and associated media
16:33:25 <T3sl4> well, but, they probably have pallets worth of network and serial and parallel and who knows what else, do you really want to buy that much?
16:33:39 <Halcyon> Network I have heaps of
16:34:09 <Halcyon> Not a pallet load, it would cost a mint to ship here. Maybe if we arrange a time when we're both up and I could call you?
16:36:22 <T3sl4> would you want more like a one of everything kind of thing, not actually "anything"?
16:40:13 <Halcyon> I don't know?
16:40:26 <Halcyon> I collect all sorts, even multiples of one thing
16:40:36 <Halcyon> My only criteria is: No cheap Chinese shit
16:40:54 <Halcyon> No-name cards/devices I have no interest in
16:43:14 <Halcyon> Can I SMS you some photos T3sl4 ?
16:45:46 <Halcyon> or Whatsapp...
16:55:10 <Ampera> I should stop by there when I do my midwest road tour
18:57:29 <Halcyon> Hey Ampera :)
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23:02:56 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Where my tax dollars were spent last year. Gotta wonder what those "other economic affairs" are... https://t.co/jALSCnJ9NU
23:08:58 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Then when you go down the rabbit hole you find obscure stuff like "Per-and Poly-Fluorinated Alkyl Substances — research and associated activities" program. Well there you go: https://t.co/WlRezS8Lct https://t.co/AVojWoDm31
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