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// #eevblog — 2019-11-14

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00:03:24 <coppice> The pedastal with all the kit in it makes for a really firm desk. Some of the best desks I've used had equipment built into a pedastal, like the old TI 990 minicomputers
01:22:43 <K> huh, can any ausie direct me to an ausie power plug in mouser or digikey?
01:23:30 <K> for use with 100W appliance, grounded
01:27:43 <K> wikipedia says "Type I", but hell if i can find anything like that
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03:03:47 <DHess_US> https://mdsattacks.com/#ridl-ng
03:04:02 <DHess_US> Intel has been covering up further state leakage bugs.
03:10:54 <K> pfft
03:10:57 <K> this baaaaad
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09:08:51 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Installed just in time for the snow! cc @thunderf00t https://t.co/eFhlHYEX7u
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10:19:21 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: cc @thunderf00t Every Solar Roadways needs Silastic! https://t.co/XZUgV69OT9
11:21:47 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: NEW Video on EEVblog2! Every Solar Roadways Needs Silastic! https://t.co/fhxegRYK5y
12:13:06 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: NEW EEVblog Video! eevBLAB #67 - Youtube COPPA Adpocalypse 3.0 https://t.co/cKJl0IBRh1
12:15:07 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Building fire alarm again. #WasntMe
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13:56:47 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: That's helpful when looking for @ST_World parts... https://t.co/aDdbw7dyvV
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14:21:59 <DogWomble> .
15:05:14 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: New Zealanders are going to get hit with 15% GST on low value imported goods now? https://t.co/QR9z96K4w4
15:09:26 <orbii> ouch.
15:09:37 <orbii> wonder what their standard GST is
15:10:00 <orbii> oh, their standard GST is 15% - so yeah - not much news
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15:44:17 <DogWomble> they were talking about something similar in australia at some point if i remember rightly?
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18:36:37 <orbii> it's been implemented in australia for a year or more now
19:11:13 <DogWomble> yeah, i thought i'd heard something about it
19:11:27 <DogWomble> it just escaped my attention because i get very little stuff shipped fro moverseas
19:23:24 <orbii> anytime you order from overseas with ebay, aliexpress, banggood, etc - you end up paying GST - it really throws out the costing and pricing of getting small/previously cheap stuff :/
20:06:25 <Halcyon> Evening all
20:18:19 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: The JST filter is a bit how ya'doing. Was hoping for polly put the kettle on caps. https://t.co/ycTI4WNEey
20:24:44 <steve30> hi Halcyon
20:24:51 <Halcyon> How you doing?
20:25:05 <steve30> ok, but I just need to pop out to the post box, and its raining.
20:25:16 <Halcyon> Aww
20:29:53 * Ampera stabs Halcyon with a really fuckin cook damascus knife some russian guy made on youtube
20:30:02 <Halcyon> Rude
20:31:31 <Ampera> how do Halcyon
20:31:42 <Halcyon> Not too bad, you?
20:31:51 <Ampera> aaw4eyawey
20:32:01 <Halcyon> :)
20:32:58 <Ampera> I need to get up and, like, do things today
20:33:07 <Halcyon> I need to start dinner
20:37:37 <steve30> Right, I'm back from the post box
20:37:48 <Halcyon> Did you get moist?
20:37:58 <steve30> only slightly
20:38:14 <steve30> Halcyon, are you able to make international voip calls yet?
20:38:56 <Halcyon> I haven't tried, maybe I'll have a play after dinner?
20:39:11 <steve30> I should be in all day if you want to ring :)
20:39:46 <Halcyon> :)
20:39:51 <Ampera> I'm able to make international phone calls to landlines for a cent a minute, so I'm not sure I care too too much
20:40:16 <Ampera> but eventually I'll throw up some sip crap
20:52:56 * orbii mucks around with non-contact temp sensor, measuring everything
20:57:35 * steve30 nibbles on Halcyon
21:17:27 * Halcyon nibbles on chicken
21:24:44 <DogWomble> i'm tempted to set up voip at home, the main reason i don't is i get enough credit on the mobile to do all the calls within australia i need and it's very rare i need to call overseas so i'd be spending a lot of time on something i'd almost nevver use
21:39:07 <Ampera> I still need to set up my PBX to handle SIP, but man does securing it sound like a pain in the ass
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22:10:39 <Halcyon> orbii: Do you have a "radio" voice?
22:10:39 <*buffextras> [email protected] set mode: +o T3sl4
22:10:39 <T3sl4> radio killed the IRC star
22:10:39 <Halcyon> I need to find someone with a specific voice to record IVR for my phone system
22:10:39 <steve30> T3sl4 has a nice voice
22:10:40 <Halcyon> Not Aussie enough :)
22:10:40 <T3sl4> oi ya cunts
22:10:40 <Halcyon> I stand corrected
22:10:40 <orbii> kek
22:12:22 <K> hello
22:25:23 <K> hello
22:28:32 <T3sl4> hi K
22:29:56 * K potasses slightly
22:35:08 <T3sl4> :)
22:42:12 <Halcyon> Ampera, steve30 did you want to try a conference call?
22:42:15 <Halcyon> Hey K
22:42:27 <steve30> i can try
22:42:36 <Halcyon> Standby, I'll try call you
22:43:10 <Halcyon> Which number shall I try?
22:43:20 <steve30> +441709299546
22:44:47 <Halcyon> DogWomble, did you want to join us?
22:51:24 <steve30> Time for me to go out.
22:51:25 <steve30> back later
22:57:13 <gremlinz> Halcyon, morgan freeman
22:58:40 <Halcyon> Anyone else up for a quick conference call?
22:58:43 <Halcyon> orbii?
22:59:02 <Halcyon> T3sl4 ?
23:00:58 <T3sl4> gordon freeman
23:05:46 <gremlinz> i've made plenty of announcements over the MFIP to an audience of 200 people, i'd do it, for a small fee :)
23:18:40 <coppice> A radio voice could be anything on BBC Radio 4. They need all sorts for their plays :)
23:20:41 <coppice> There used to be a lot of equipment that was built into a desk. I blame all this miniaturisation for killing that market
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23:34:12 <Ampera> Halcyon & steve30, I'm at school and I didn't see your message. I wouldn't mind at all, but keep note that I am a PSTN only PBX right now
23:35:16 <Halcyon> I can call you?
23:37:20 * Ampera throws a soda cracker at Halcyon
23:37:49 <Halcyon> That doesn't help
23:38:04 <Halcyon> I have Tim (DogWomble) and Steve on the line
23:38:09 <Halcyon> I want to see if I can do a 3rd
23:38:19 <Ampera> what part of "I'm at school" do you not understand
23:38:36 <Halcyon> I wouldn't mind at all, but keep note that I am a PSTN only PBX right now
23:38:43 <Halcyon> That implied you could still talk
23:38:46 <Halcyon> Remember English?
23:38:47 <Halcyon> :P
23:39:28 <Ampera> now explain to me how a PSTN only PBX can run a conference call if I I'm 3 miles away from the nearest phone line from it
23:39:40 <Halcyon> VPN ?
23:39:45 <Halcyon> Same as everyone else
23:39:59 <Ampera> what part of PSTN do you not get, I need a physical phone
23:40:46 <Ampera> My PBX is PSTN only, meaning I can only use phones compatible with that systems, and ones that are directly attached to the PBX
23:42:38 <Halcyon> So you haven't set up any softphones I'm guessing?
23:43:19 <Ampera> no because softphones do not work on the PSTN
23:43:34 <Halcyon> But Asterisk/FreePBX works as a conduit
23:43:38 <Ampera> unless they go through a PBX which connects them to it, which would not be a PSTN only PBX
23:43:47 <Halcyon> You're weird
23:44:00 <Ampera> yeah I know I made a telephone exchange that switches telephones
23:44:01 <Ampera> so damn weird
23:44:22 <K> its just ptsd talking
23:45:08 * Ampera whacks K with a PTRS
23:48:55 <T3sl4> heavy desks at that
23:49:20 <K> the anti armour gun?
23:49:31 <Ampera> K, indeed
23:49:33 <Halcyon> What about you K, fancy a chat with a few of us?
23:49:39 <Halcyon> I'm mostly testing my phone system
23:49:48 <K> i'm at work
23:49:52 <Halcyon> Aw
23:49:55 <K> sry
23:50:01 <Halcyon> damian, ?
23:55:31 <steve30> I think it worked :)
23:56:21 <Halcyon> I think it worked very well
23:56:35 <Halcyon> Now to see how much that cost me....
23:57:00 <Halcyon> Hasn't updated yet
23:57:11 <Halcyon> But yes, Steve: Homework, Keeping up Appearances and Vicious
23:57:11 <steve30> I'm going to estimate less than $10
23:57:29 <Ampera> Calls for me to Australia are 1 cent per minute, I'd imagine it's the same to the UK
23:57:41 <Halcyon> I guess?
23:57:44 <Ampera> for a landline anyways, mobile phone is 4 cents per minute, and satellite phone is lol
23:57:46 <Halcyon> I've only just got IDD working
23:57:55 <Halcyon> Oh Sat phones are like $1 a minute
23:58:04 <Ampera> I think it's even more for me
23:58:08 <Halcyon> It's like when I got my first mobile phone in the 90's
23:58:12 <Halcyon> Calls were about that
23:58:24 <steve30> Halcyon's sound quality was definitely better than DogWomble's
23:58:32 <Halcyon> DogWomble, was using mobile
23:58:36 <Ampera> 2 dollars per minute for me
23:58:36 <Halcyon> So the codec was GSM
23:58:42 <steve30> ah
23:58:53 <DogWomble> yeah, i was on mobile phone :)
23:59:10 <Halcyon> I'm not sure what the HD mobile codecs are here, I will need to look into it
23:59:20 <Halcyon> I know you can get really good quality audio on mobile networks nationally
23:59:57 <DogWomble> yeah, the audio i was getting from you was definitely intelligable so wasn't horrible by any means, but wasn't quite as good as what i'd otherwise get