// #eevblog — 2019-11-18
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00:29:34 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Why wasn't there a sequel to The Thing?
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01:56:21 <Ampera> Halcyon, not at 02:47
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06:11:35 <Halcyon> Hey Ampera :)
06:12:38 <Halcyon> Oh FFS, this dickhead sports person in Australia is claiming that the bush fires are because of "same-sex marriage and abortion"
06:17:27 <rust_collector> Well, can you prove him wrong?
06:17:45 <Halcyon> I don't need to. The onus is on him.
06:17:49 <Halcyon> I have science on my side
06:18:03 <rust_collector> haha! science
06:18:20 <Halcyon> Which this moron seems to think doesn't exist or something? Who knows?
06:18:50 <rust_collector> I am not sure what I think about same sex abortions yet
06:19:12 <Halcyon> Heh
06:19:28 <Halcyon> I guess equality is a good thing right?
06:21:00 * steve30 hugs Halcyon
06:21:08 <Halcyon> Hey Steve :)
06:21:19 <Halcyon> I'll talk to you guys later. Heading off to work.
06:21:44 <rust_collector> equality, yes, nice idea, like communism
06:21:47 <rust_collector> have fun
06:57:03 <DHess_US> "The top picks for a new server CPU architecture are x86, followed by ARM, followed by setting fire to your money."
06:57:24 <Ampera> tbh I'd take POWER over ARM
06:58:29 <DHess_US> Was in answer to a discussion about what these guys are doing, https://nuviainc.com/
06:58:48 <DHess_US> https://www.reuters.com/article/us-nuvia-tech/former-apple-chip-executives-found-company-to-take-on-intel-amd-idUSKBN1XP19V
06:58:51 <Ampera> before I even look at the content, their website is fucking shit
07:02:32 <Ampera> Look I'm fine with whatever hundreds of millions these companies want to pour into whatever, but nothing is going to change unless one of them manage to beat Intel and AMD's price to performance
07:02:48 <Ampera> well not even price to performance, but single unit performance
07:03:19 <Ampera> and considering AMD and Intel are massive massive companies who have been working at the goal of a faster CPU since before my parents were alive, I don't think that's gonna happen all too soon
08:04:24 <coppice> Ampera: if you choose POWER over ARM you lose. IBM only pushes forward with POWER because they are on the treadmill
08:07:58 <coppice> AMD was almost wiped out, yet has now managed to come back really strong. Its unlikely a new player will do the same, but AMD has shown its still a possibility
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09:19:04 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: "An eye-grabbing news report out this month suggested a whopping 54% of Americans aged 13 to 38 would become an “influencer” given the chance, with 12% already considering themselves influencers." https://t.co/0lmB2xqKjA
09:31:28 <DHess_US> https://www.thenewspaper.com/news/68/6833.asp
09:57:34 <rust_collector> putting a tracker in a locker is probably cheaper than buying a second car
10:02:42 <Ampera> coppice, keep in mind I don't run any iron, big nor small, whatsoever. All I can say is if I were given the option between an ARM server and a POWER server, I'd pick the one that can actually do something right now.
10:25:05 <DHess_US> rust_collector, or attaching it to a train car.
10:25:17 <DHess_US> Or a trailer.
10:25:48 <rust_collector> hehe, I remember an old "tired" guy, who used to get his money, buy a phone, go to the dock, and tape it to a container
10:25:55 <DHess_US> A couple years ago someone tried selling one on Ebay and the law enforcement agency who placed it got really perturbed with them.
10:26:23 <DHess_US> "tired"?
10:26:45 <rust_collector> well, after years of drugs and drinking
10:26:51 <DHess_US> I was actually surprised how easy and cheap it is to buy a burner phone. $50
10:27:59 <DHess_US> in cash, no ID. But I wonder how much longer that will be the case.
10:28:50 <rust_collector> hm, yes
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10:56:36 <coppice> these days $50 is a lot for a basic phone
11:13:57 <rust_collector> how much can you call with one of those?
11:14:25 * orbii contemplates nearly AUD1400 for a new iphone
11:15:01 <rust_collector> even mom quit buying iphones
11:18:47 <orbii> my iPhone just crapped out again with the same hardware fault i had repaired 3 months ago, just after the warranty expired - so i need to think about a proper replacement :|
11:19:17 <rust_collector> oh, right. they quit making nokias, so forget that
11:19:43 <rust_collector> what happened to it?
11:20:12 <DHess_US> It's an Apple product. Just throw it away, and buy a new one.
11:20:56 <DHess_US> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzRrgZUnbFY
11:21:06 <rust_collector> good point, they make new ones every day
11:23:15 <orbii> sadly, by the time they realised all iphone 7 have a hardware fault from the factory, they were out of support - and the iphone 8 was out. no class action on it has ever gotten anywhere. it's a bit sad.
11:23:38 <rust_collector> what happens to them?
11:26:50 <rust_collector> I think you should think about buying a bluetooth fidget spinner in stead
11:34:29 <orbii> rust_collector: audio for phone calls stop working
11:34:51 <rust_collector> oh, that would be annoying.
11:34:56 <orbii> it's caused by microcracking in the PCB under the chip which handles the audio codec
11:35:16 <rust_collector> interesting
11:35:21 <orbii> there's insufficient support of the PCB in that area, and it's right next to the SIM socket, and it causes issues with the cracking with flexing and dropping
11:35:48 <orbii> the proper fix is to run 4 jumper wires from certain BGA pins over where they would normally terminate on the board
11:36:18 <orbii> the person that fixed mine said it only needed 2 - so that's all they did. given the new symptoms of it being intermittent - i think their solder work has come loose - as it stops/satrts working if you flex the phone
11:36:33 <orbii> what i get for buying a cheap refurb phone
11:36:40 <rust_collector> the cheap way is to fill it with glue?
11:36:51 <rust_collector> before it breaks, I mean
11:37:05 <rust_collector> oh well. phones are always annoying
11:37:39 <orbii> not too sure if there's any pre-fix.
11:37:43 <rust_collector> like cars. nice to have, but always full of issues, and needs money just before christmas or vacation
11:38:08 <orbii> my phones have always been owned by my employer prior to this, so i've never had to worry about it
11:38:45 <orbii> my new employer makes staff buy their own phones, so i bought a cheap phone to make do .. regretting not spending more, given the fundamental hardware fault. even the warranty hasnt saved me, cos it's failed again since it was fixed under warranty.
11:39:37 <rust_collector> except for my old nokias, I think the "best" phone I have had, was a very cheap alcatel branded one. The great feature was that you could pop out the battery, and put 3 aa cells in it, lol
11:40:37 <orbii> most of the phones ive ever bought were ~1000AUD
11:40:47 <orbii> even going back to the first phone i bought in 1996 or 7
11:40:54 <rust_collector> I have never really been very happy with any smartphone I have had
11:41:36 <rust_collector> yea, they sort of work, but... all of them have some thing that is annoying
11:44:32 <orbii> i've honestly rarely had complaints with any of mine
11:45:11 <rust_collector> great!
11:45:26 <rust_collector> Well, it is time to go to work. Have fun etc.
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12:18:04 <DHess_US> If only there was some way to make the phone case stiffer by making it thicker but that is impossible.
12:18:42 <T3sl4> they could use tungsten carbide, but that would increase the weight
12:28:20 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: I suspect the devil is in the detail. Can the mechanical engineers run the numbers on this Space hook system. https://t.co/Et2zRcOuFy
12:51:29 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: I love how Jim Browning scams the scammers and shuts them down. He deserves a medal. https://t.co/EDwpvVvjDj
13:52:37 <orbii> DHess_US: not with what people want out of phones these days. sad thing is, we have all these 'bend gates' from various manufacturers trying to make their phones so thin
13:52:54 <orbii> the stupid thing is, i need a massive thick case on it to stop the damn thing breaking a screen anyway - so it's double the thickness ..
13:53:07 <orbii> that said, i guess it would be even bigger without how thin it is otherwise :/
13:55:38 <DHess_US> If you iPhone breaks, then you were using it wrong.
14:07:27 <orbii> you realise that bendgate has been just as bad with pretty much every Android, right?
14:07:37 <orbii> must be just using it wrong
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18:21:13 <T3sl4> heh, not surprised by the amount of ignorance shown in these comments, but it's still... amusing, i guess https://imgur.com/gallery/9osADm9/comment/1755754055
18:46:47 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: This is a new option from @PayPalAU Questions: 1) Why does it cost extra? 2) Why is it limited to $1000? https://t.co/jJI4bXpiJD
18:52:49 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: @PayPalAU Turns out you need a debit card to get the instant transfer, doesn't work direct with your bank account. https://t.co/qu7xO8yl0e
18:55:50 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: @PayPalAU Turns out you need a debit card to get the instant transfer, doesn't work direct with your bank account. https://t.co/GYpagicBgE
18:56:50 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: LOL So much for my @CommBank card https://t.co/VxVm1twFXx
19:39:54 <steve30> morning
19:48:07 <steve30> I'm just leeching off Halcyon's super-gay file server
19:48:22 <steve30> But it seems to be down to dialup speeds now
19:59:47 <Halcyon> How is it super gay steve30 ?
20:00:10 <Halcyon> Yeh I'm not sure why, I did a speed test earlier and it was fine
20:03:38 <Halcyon> Bahahaha, orbii, in local news: No one other than Bob Katter has come out to defend Israel Folau
20:10:38 * steve30 curls up next to Halcyon
20:10:51 <Halcyon> Aww
20:17:36 <steve30> I might have a wander up to the shop since its a nice sunny day
20:17:46 <Halcyon> YAY!
20:19:23 <DogWomble> Will you take your super duper pooper scooper to clean up the dog shit on the way?
20:19:48 <steve30> nope
20:24:16 <Halcyon> Random
20:36:57 <DogWomble> you say that like it's a bad thing
20:37:12 <DogWomble> but we all know it's a good idea to clean up dog shit that's been left behind :)
20:40:44 <Halcyon> Yes but why did Steve going to the shops turn into picking up dog shit?
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21:14:00 <steve30> hmm, computer crashed while i was out
21:14:22 <coppice> T3sl4: fugu highlights the reality that there is no toxin too toxic for humans to find a commercial use
23:49:42 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: RT @_youhadonejob1: Advertising done right. https://t.co/VKPN69acR5
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