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00:13:17 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Sat 21st 9am (7-11,Avatar) || WotW: TBA || All topic times are AEDT (UTC+11:00); set your timezone on the site to see your local times in the Schedule! | Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au
00:13:17 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Tue Feb 17 19:06:23 2015
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00:24:29 <Mekkis> !feat major spell expertise
00:24:30 <diebot> Mekkis, MAJOR SPELL EXPERTISE []Prereq: Minor Spell Expertise, ability to cast 9th-level spells. You can cast a single low-level spell as a spell-like ability.
00:24:30 <diebot> Benefit: Choose one spell that you know of 5th level or lower. You may cast that spell twice per day as a spell-like ability. The caster level for this spell-like ability is equal to your caster level in the class from whose spell list the spell is taken. The spell-like ability's save DC is Charisma-based. If the spell has an expensive focus or
00:24:30 <diebot> material component, it may not be chosen for this feat. You cannot apply metamagic feats to this spell.
00:24:30 <diebot> Special: You can gain this feat multiple times. Its effects do not stack. Each time you take the feat, it applies to a new spell. Source: APG
00:30:56 <Mekkis> !feat athiest abjurations
00:30:57 <diebot> Mekkis, ABUNDANT REVELATIONS []Prereq: Mystery class feature. You can plumb the depths of your mystery to use your revelations more often.
00:30:58 <diebot> Benefit: Choose one of your revelations that has a number of uses per day. You gain 1 additional use per day of that revelation.
00:30:58 <diebot> Special: You can gain this feat multiple times. Its effects do not stack. Each time you take the feat, it applies to a new revelation. Source: UM
00:34:08 <Mekkis> !spell ill omen
00:34:12 <diebot> Mekkis, ILL OMEN enchantment (compulsion[mind-affecting]) witch 1 1 standard action Range: close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels) one creature Comp: V, S, M (hair from a black cat) Duration: 1 round/level or until discharged Save: none SR:yesSource: APG
00:34:13 <diebot> You afflict the target with bad luck. On the next d20 roll the target makes, it must roll twice and take the less favorable result. For every five caster levels you have, the target must roll twice on an additional d20 roll (to a maximum of five rolls at 20th level). A target who can speak and has at least one free hand and who is aware of the
00:34:13 <diebot> spell and its effects (such as from a Spellcraft check to identify the spell as it is cast) can negate one reroll by spending a move action to utter a brief prayer or good luck charm to appease the spirits of ill fortune.
01:55:08 <Avatar> pretty sure only steven and maybe brunius can GM in both your timeslots
01:55:27 <Avatar> if you want me to GM for one of you, I'm still 2 and a half weeks away from a free weekend
02:21:35 <Steven> yo.
02:30:04 <Avatar> do you work during the week
02:36:51 <Steven> I'm 'always' working
02:37:35 <Steven> I am a caregiver so i have my regular scheduled hours and then whenever they need help they call me and i come over.
02:37:52 <tashes__> are you better yet steven
02:38:06 <Steven> no, but i feel better today then i did yesterday.
02:38:18 <Steven> not by much mind you, but still.
02:38:43 <tashes> have you eaten a vegetable?
02:39:38 <Steven> no... i ate more then one.
02:40:14 <tashes> well then i'm all out of ideas
02:40:24 <tashes> i'm glad you're feeling better
02:40:35 <Steven> its just a sinus thing, will blow over in a day or two more.
02:40:51 <Steven> if it doesnt i'll go to my doctor and get some antibiotics.
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02:43:22 <tashes> i have a lot of sinus problems.
02:43:25 <tashes> neti pot is amazing
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02:50:22 <Steven> nah.. im not down with putting too much water in my nose
02:56:00 <tashes> saline nasal spray helps too, or a medicated one
02:57:05 <Avatar> that sounds a bit like you don't ever do pathfinder anymore steven
02:58:22 <Steven> I organize 2 gamedays a week, and every other week i go over to moscow and put in an appearance at the gameday there.
02:58:47 <Steven> so 10 days a month I'm doing something related to PFS.
02:59:00 <Steven> I think thats plenty.
03:01:29 <Avatar> how can you do that and caregiving
03:03:00 <tashes> at least here, carers are entitled to 68 days per year leave
03:03:33 <Steven> before i go out to play i do a bunch of stuff.
03:05:34 <Steven> bout the 3 hours before i leave to go down to the shop, I cook dinner, do whatever laundry is around, clean the kitchen, go to the grocery store, chop wood and put it in the house, take out their dogs and feed them.
03:39:50 <Steven> hey people.
03:40:01 <Steven> i slept... then i woke up ravenously hungry.
04:02:57 <s_gmusic> hm... playing around in herolab and have statted up a Ftr 4/Samurai 4. Not sure where to go from there.
04:21:34 <Avatar> gunslinger
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04:31:02 <Mekkis> !capacity 12
04:31:03 <diebot> Mekkis, 43 if medium, 32.25 if small.
05:02:53 <s_gmusic> guns not allowed in the game.
05:03:12 <s_gmusic> can't decide if I want to focus more on fighter or more on samurai, or try a prestige class
05:08:49 <Brunius> Mekkis: I've just realised I've already booked something for this friday
05:08:52 <Brunius> sorry about that, chief
05:24:30 <s_gmusic> Brunius, any suggestiosn for above?
05:24:45 <Brunius> yes
05:28:01 <s_gmusic> oh?
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05:53:44 <Magus> Allo'
05:53:48 <Steven> methinks its nap time!
05:56:19 <Magus> Anyone around today?
05:56:53 <Steven> shhhhh
05:57:00 <Steven> they react to typing.
05:57:18 <Magus> Well, I still want to play xD
05:57:32 <s_gmusic> hey steven
05:57:39 <Steven> ah crap....
05:57:43 <s_gmusic> :P
05:57:46 <Magus> Lol
05:58:05 <s_gmusic> 28 AC at lvl 8. seems low.
05:58:51 <Steven> thats pretty pathetic AC conidering you're wearing armor
05:59:15 <Magus> Real men just always go naked
06:00:37 <s_gmusic> +1 Mithral full plate (+10), +2 heavy shield (+4), amulet of natural armor +1, +2 Dex mod, +1 Dodge (feat). AC 28/Flat-footed 25/Touch 15
06:01:29 <Steven> see... armor.
06:01:56 <Steven> anyways...
06:02:01 <s_gmusic> what's "typical" AC about lvl 8?
06:02:07 <Magus> So do you feel better today? xD
06:02:16 <Steven> for someone specializing in high AC?
06:02:35 <Steven> bout 30
06:02:52 <Steven> you're not far off really, just pick up a ring of prot
06:03:31 <s_gmusic> fair enough
06:04:21 <Brunius> wonder what Bairaq's AC is
06:04:49 <s_gmusic> hm... that's 8k. don't really have the funds atm. going to talk to the GM of my Runelords game about a potential rebuild.
06:06:00 <Steven> go do whatcha gotta do.
06:07:41 <s_gmusic> we're about to start book 3. character started out as Ranger 2/Samurai X for TWF things, but it's becoming clear that's not what the party needs. want to change to a bit more of a tank-like character, so looking at Samurai 1/Fighter X, that way I don't have to lose a few of my weapons.
06:08:01 <Lintor> yep
06:08:06 <Magus> Then agreed.
06:08:43 <Lintor> and "totally"
06:09:42 <Steven> should be fun.
06:09:56 <Magus> Gnarly, bodacious, radical
06:10:19 <Lintor> "Radiculus"
06:10:47 <Magus> That... Hurts me to read.
06:11:56 <Magus> But perfect for the character
06:13:38 <Lintor> now i just have to work out his faction and nationality
06:16:06 <Magus> Oh. Paizo customer service said they couldn't help
06:16:15 <s_gmusic> what's up?
06:16:52 <Magus> So, I had played two sessions and had a pathfinder guy from years ago
06:17:09 <Magus> But disappeared from my paizo account
06:17:38 <Magus> I have the sheets still, but gone from my account
06:18:19 <s_gmusic> "sheets" being your Chronicles from the sessions you played or your character sheet?
06:19:21 <Magus> Both
06:20:17 <Steven> libertys edge? freedom to surf?
06:20:54 <s_gmusic> then you're fine.
06:21:05 <s_gmusic> the most important thing is to have your chronicles
06:21:13 <Magus> lol
06:21:22 <Magus> Nationality is a thing?
06:21:47 <Magus> Yea, but not in my account which doesn't help
06:21:57 <Magus> especially since I plan on playing online mostly now
06:22:06 <Steven> yeah, you can be an andoran that joins the Silver Crusade
06:22:24 <Magus> Do I have to pick a nationality?
06:22:32 <s_gmusic> if you feel you must have it listed online, try to find the GM to ran the games and talk to them, if possible.
06:23:04 <Magus> Noted. I don't know if it is, but I'll try
06:23:49 <Avatar> ethnicity
06:23:51 <Avatar> and no you don't
06:24:01 <Avatar> you get a free language if you do though
06:24:36 <s_gmusic> brb, gotta restart my comp
06:26:06 <Magus> Noted. I'll look at it then
06:26:56 <Magus> Steven find me gammmmes
06:26:59 <Magus> gamessss
06:27:00 <Avatar> you do need to own the inner sea world guide to claim the language though
06:27:02 <Magus> ggggames
06:27:36 <Avatar> you can roleplay the ethnicity without it
06:27:47 <Steven> im goin to sleep in 15 minutes.
06:28:01 <Steven> well 15 minutes and a 10 minute walk back to my house.
06:28:03 <Avatar> like you want to play a kellid barbarian, you can say he's kellid and actually be kellid, and just not have the free language if you don't own the book
06:28:13 <Steven> hell truth be told its more like 2 minutes.
06:28:14 <Magus> Yea, aren't you just 2-3 hours behind me?
06:28:21 <Magus> Why are you awake again
06:28:53 <Magus> I have the Inner Sea Primer
06:28:55 <Magus> is that it?
06:29:24 <Magus> Yes, it seems it is
06:29:35 <Avatar> inner sea world guide
06:29:44 <Avatar> maybe the primer has it as well, I can't remember
06:30:01 <Steven> hours.
06:30:21 <Avatar> if you point me to a page, I'll double check for you
06:30:21 <Magus> Oh
06:30:36 <Magus> A campaign setting book
06:30:40 <Magus> I have that too
06:30:50 <Magus> I also have Inner Sea Magic
06:31:13 <Magus> Those are my 3 inner sea ones xD
06:32:03 <Magus> Anyway. So you said you run games whenever people are available and want to Avatar, but how often to sessions actually happen, roughly?
06:32:21 <Avatar> I told you what usually happens man
06:32:32 <Magus> *nods*
06:32:43 <Avatar> you sound like you want a different answer
06:33:05 <Magus> Yea. Just mildly demoralized looking at all of these cancelled sessions and things listed everywhere
06:33:31 <Magus> It's also 630 in the morning so I apologize for the repitition
06:33:47 <Avatar> mate don't apologise to me
06:33:56 <Avatar> I just don't want to see you make yourself a glutton for punishment
06:34:01 <Avatar> you seem like a nice guy
06:34:11 <Avatar> what cancelled sessions are you seeing
06:35:10 <Magus> Like, 2 of the first 3 most recent in the google group
06:35:17 <Magus> and a lot more as you scroll through
06:35:27 <Magus> and a *ton* more if you look at any groups Warhorn
06:35:30 <Avatar> did they say why they cancelled
06:36:19 <Magus> One due to sickness, the rest say RSVPs or something similar
06:36:29 <Magus> lack of signatures, lack of players
06:36:32 <s_gmusic> kback.
06:36:37 <Avatar> that seems strange
06:36:43 <Avatar> because games in your timezone usually overfill
06:36:47 <Avatar> they don't get a lack of players
06:37:07 <Magus> Oh? Maybe just the holiday yesterday messed with it
06:39:10 <Avatar> the few games that are cancelled I don't actually recognise
06:39:21 <Avatar> except we be goblins, which he tried to schedule less than a day in advance
06:40:28 <Avatar> and it doesn't help that most of those games like to put down their timezone as "EST" or "CST" without putting GMT or UTC
06:42:43 <Mekkis> EST is UTC+10, right?
06:42:44 <Mekkis> ?EST
06:42:49 <Mekkis> ?CST
06:43:00 <Mekkis> ?!define
06:43:01 <diebot> Mekkis, Syntax: !define [global] [add] <key>: <definition>. Eg. !define global diebot: A bot written by Mekkis.Using Add concatenates the arguments to the definition, otherwise it overwrites them.
06:43:41 <Magus> EST is UTC-5
06:44:42 <Mekkis> !define global EST: Either American Eastern Standard time (UTC-5), or Australian Eastern Standard time (UTC+10). Consider being clearer and using UTC offsets.
06:44:43 <diebot> Mekkis, Either American Eastern Standard time (UTC-5), or Australian Eastern Standard time (UTC+10). Consider being clearer and using UTC offsets. defined as ??EST
06:44:52 <Mekkis> :)
06:45:23 <Steven> back!
06:45:33 <Magus> Hey, you didn't die
06:45:35 <Steven> i ate some food
06:45:41 <Steven> i feel much better
06:45:54 <Magus> Glad to hear it
06:45:56 <Steven> that should go away in about half an hour at which time i'll be goin to bed.
06:47:11 <Lintor> so mekkis how bout that WotW
06:47:22 <Avatar> so lintor how about accepting a slot
06:47:31 <Mekkis> How about Sunday 22nd?
06:47:39 <Mekkis> Or Friday evening, 20th?
06:47:47 <Lintor> sure to ether
06:48:02 <Avatar> is that your permanent name now, lintor
06:48:07 <Avatar> I was just getting used to ulzef
06:48:12 <Mekkis> Brunius: WotW on Friday evening, 20th or Sunday 22nd?
06:48:30 <Mekkis> !feat gang up
06:48:36 <diebot> Mekkis, GANG UP [Combat]Prereq: Int 13, Combat Expertise. You are adept at using greater numbers against foes.
06:48:36 <diebot> Benefit: You are considered to be flanking an opponent if at least two of your allies are threatening that opponent, regardless of your actual positioning.
06:48:36 <diebot> Normal: You must be positioned opposite an ally to flank an opponent. Source: APG
06:49:08 <Magus> lol
06:49:16 <Ulzef> nah just been to lazy to change it since last WotW
06:52:58 <Magus> Well, anyway. Nice meeting you guys, and I'll check back in after I hear back from Paizo. Cheers
06:54:44 <Ulzef> gonna have to whip out ulzef for that one
06:54:55 <Steven> whatcha gonna hear bback from them bout? the number recovery?
06:55:28 <Avatar> too lazy to change it since last wotw
06:55:31 <Avatar> that was like a year ago
06:56:12 <Avatar> Magus: you say you'll be back
06:56:21 <Ulzef> lol how often have i jumped on since then :P
06:56:57 <Steven> i've seen you at least twice.
06:57:04 <Avatar> something else you need to work on aye
06:57:27 <Avatar> mate how lazy do you have to be to type /nick ulzef
06:57:29 <Avatar> I mean really
06:57:51 <Ulzef> lmao you have meet me right
06:58:04 <Avatar> nevertheless
07:07:44 <Avatar> 5 people for that game
07:07:59 <Avatar> though one of them is asking if it's 10pm GMT on the site
07:08:09 <Avatar> not sure how they can muck up the timing
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08:02:03 <Mekkis> Avatar, it IS 2200 GMT, right?
08:02:36 <Avatar> oh shit did I get it wrong
08:03:01 <Avatar> crap
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08:04:21 <Avatar> here I was thinking I had a correct timezone in 3 different places, instead of posting conflicting times
08:06:34 <steven> heh
09:15:38 <Steven> sleep was not to be aprantly.
09:15:50 <Steven> i mean i did get a nap
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09:20:48 <Ulzef> hour into point break covers the culture but not the over the top accents
10:09:04 <Ulzef> also as a side not the beach at the end is not bells beach at a guess its not even in australia
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10:33:27 <tashes_> steven if magus has all his sheets and just can't find them on his account, why not just make a new paizo account?
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14:19:39 <AngelHunterD> This the chatroom for the PFS #4-20 (Words of the ancients)?
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14:37:24 <Magus> How's it going?
14:37:34 <tashes_> g'day
14:44:14 <Magus> So on the PFS google group someone posted about a new people group running on Sundays
14:44:27 <Magus> but you cant do weekends right?
14:48:03 <tashes_> not really.. my partner works 7-7 so i don't see him much other than weekends
14:48:16 <tashes_> i can do sunday night
14:48:45 <Magus> fair enough. I'll keep looking.
14:49:00 <Magus> Make him play too on the weekends :p problem solved
14:49:33 <Magus> https://warhorn.net/events/tsriel-gaming/schedule/2015/02
14:49:34 <tashes_> haha
14:49:54 <Magus> https://warhorn.net/events/tsriel-gaming/schedule/2015/02/22/sessions/62735
14:50:00 <Magus> group and session details
14:52:59 <tashes_> i'm ashamed how long it took me to work out the time
14:53:34 <tashes_> 5pm sunday gmt-8 is 11am monday for me
14:53:47 <Magus> -.- boo
14:53:52 <tashes_> taht works for me
14:53:57 <Magus> oh
14:53:59 <Magus> cool
14:54:06 <Magus> Yea, weekday
14:54:17 <Magus> sign up on the wait xD
14:54:53 <tashes_> could @steven1 GM something for us in that sort of time slot, maybe?
14:55:02 <tashes_> 7 signed up and 1 waiting sounds like chaos to me
14:56:28 <Magus> well, me and my friend are two of them and several of the others are expected to no show. It'd be worth signing up just im case, but I'd like one here too
14:57:25 <Magus> here is his actual post... https://groups.google.com/forum/m/?fromgroups#!topic/pathfinder-society-online-collective/ReqWGvlTpTI
15:01:52 <tashes_> ok
15:03:02 <Magus> So I saw today PFS has a Magus base class, so I feel compelled to make one.
15:04:05 <tashes_> of course
15:04:16 <tashes_> i'm tossing up whether to make an angry dwarf or a velociraptor druid
15:05:30 <Mekkis> !spell misdirection
15:05:36 <diebot> Mekkis, MISDIRECTION illusion (glamer[]) bard 2, sorcerer/wizard 2, summoner 2 1 standard action Range: close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels) one creature or object, up to a 10-ft. cube in size Comp: V, S Duration: 1 hour/level Save: none or Will negates; see text SR:noSource: PFRPG Core
15:05:36 <diebot> By means of this spell, you misdirect the information from divination spells that reveal auras (detect evil, detect magic, discern lies, and the like). On casting the spell, you choose another object within range. For the duration of the spell, the subject of misdirection is detected as if it were the other object. Neither the subject nor the other
15:05:36 <diebot> object gets a saving throw against this effect. Detection spells provide information based on the second object rather than on the actual target of the detection unless the caster of the detection succeeds on a Will save. For instance, you could make yourself detect as a tree if one were within range at casting: not evil, not lying, not magical,
15:05:36 <diebot> neutral in alignment, and so forth. This spell does not affect other types of divination magic (augury, detect thoughts, clairaudience/clairvoyance, and the like).
15:09:11 <Magus> xD both can be fun. Why not an angry dwarf velociraptor druid?
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15:18:47 <tashes_> ooh tempting
15:19:10 <Magus> Ridiculous too!
15:19:26 <tashes_> i do excel in the ridiculous..
15:19:38 <tashes_> Maybe someone'll tell you about Fork and Spork
15:20:03 <Magus> ohhh jeeze
15:20:35 <tashes_> they were orcs
15:25:22 <Magus> that needs elaborated on now
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15:47:29 <Magus> blah sorry. got caught up at work
15:47:38 <Magus> did I miss the story?
15:51:03 <Magus> blahhh I wanna know
15:56:38 <Magus> Did Steven finally succumb to his sickness?
16:02:24 <tashes_> haha nah
16:03:25 <Magus> he was pretty delirious last time I saw :p
16:07:05 <Magus> yea, so my newbie friend is going rogue to shadow dancer
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16:12:07 <tashes_> Hi Brunius !
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16:12:31 <tashes> cool!
16:12:46 <Brunius_> hello
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16:13:00 <tashes> What sort of time schedule are you keeping now?
16:14:21 <Magus> I have no idea.
16:14:45 <Magus> I generally work from 3 hours ago to five from now
16:14:56 <Magus> monday to friday
16:15:41 <tashes> anyway fork and spork were orc barbarians with alllll the teamwork feats and not much smarts between them. A friend and i played them with interchangeable character sheets and whenever someoen would call one of us by either name they'd be wrong
16:16:06 <tashes> do you sleep? :s
16:17:07 <Magus> Nope! Not often or normally
16:17:20 <Magus> and heh. That is pretty silly
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16:21:05 <Magus> welcome back
16:21:23 <Tashes> thanks.
16:21:53 <Magus> The more I think on these character the more I want to play
16:22:05 <Magus> it's been wayyyy too long
16:23:04 <Tashes> ooh its getting windy now
16:23:38 <Tashes> i'm quite excited about the storm
16:24:18 <Magus> storms are generally better
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16:40:01 <Brunius_> We were meant to get storms here today
16:40:06 <Brunius_> so far it's been a nice day :(
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16:41:16 <Brunius_> Magus, have you considered getting a non-browserbased IRC client?
16:42:09 <Tashes> my grandfather just phoned me to insist we seek shelter somewhere else. it's a cat 2... failry sure we'll be fine
16:42:29 <Brunius_> You're rural QLD aren't you?
16:42:45 <Tashes> on the coast just south of gladstone
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16:48:32 <Magus> I'm on my phone at work so for here no :s sorry
16:48:53 <Magus> I'll look into dling one after
16:52:02 <Magus> I am not pleased that I can't represent Cheliax any more -.-
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17:01:53 <Magus> The Paizo customer service was not as helpful as I would have liked xD
17:01:58 <Magus> How are you guys doing?
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17:53:02 <Avatar> can't believe I got the times wrong
17:53:08 <Avatar> daylight savings strikes again
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17:59:46 <Tashes> i'm not dead yet!\
18:00:27 <Avatar> WB
18:00:58 <Tashes> apaprently now its cat 4. I'm getting puppies for the night!
18:01:15 <Avatar> what?
18:02:02 <Tashes> lady up the road is in brisbane so i get to bring her doggies in the house
18:23:38 <Avatar> E:oP
18:23:54 <Avatar> one of the players said something about importing a character into roll20, instead of having to cut and paste macros
18:23:58 <Avatar> I just have to enable some option
18:24:58 <Avatar> I'm going to need a token from you mekkis
18:25:19 <Avatar> you can send me several if you're not sure
18:26:37 <Tashes> mornin
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18:46:20 <Magus> Hello again
18:47:15 <Tashes> did anything end up getting decided about when we'll play?
18:48:02 <Magus> Not yet it seems
18:59:51 <Avatar> I assume you all heard about the reversal on the SLA/prestige class FAQ
19:04:28 <Brunius_> nope
19:04:53 <Avatar> yeah you can't do it anymore, although if you did it in PFS before, you're allowed to keep your character and keep getting levels in it as if it hadn't been reversed
19:04:59 <Avatar> great for aasimars and tieflings
19:06:58 <Brunius_> I don't see why they allowed it in the first place
19:10:02 <Avatar> yeah it didn't make much sense
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19:10:49 <Avatar> I know SKR was keen on abilities counting for more than they usually would
19:11:47 <Avatar> like if you had something that resembled a feat as a class feature, that'd count as a pre-req for another feat
19:11:49 <Avatar> or something like that
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19:17:19 <Mekkis> Avatar, I'm glad that my post did seem to steer the discussion in a direction I wanted :)
19:17:41 <Avatar> I'm surprised they ignored my comment that said "retraining is in the pfs guide"
19:17:48 <Avatar> well, surprised is the wrong word
19:17:53 <Avatar> dismayed
19:17:58 <Mekkis> I want to reiterate it, to be honest
19:17:59 <Avatar> I'm not surprised
19:18:09 <Mekkis> I might post again, quoting you
19:18:28 <Avatar> john said that retraining is too jarring
19:18:40 <Avatar> I think he meant that in terms of not allowing grandfathering
19:18:51 <Avatar> but there's no reason they can't allow both, and they're ignoring that for some reason
19:19:14 <Avatar> I mentioned in another thread that they could use the honour system for allowing people who hadn't gotten the prestige level yet to retrain for free
19:19:39 <Avatar> PFS is quite selective about when the honour system should be used
19:19:56 <Mekkis> But the whole "Prestige classes like Mystic Theurge were horribly underpowered until this SLA rule gave them early entry and made them usable." claim highlights the reason why the SLA rule should exist.
19:20:05 <Mekkis> seems dumb to me
19:20:26 <Mekkis> it highlights that the entry requirements are too arduous
19:22:15 <steven> so how bout them dodgers?
19:24:55 <Mekkis> dodgers?
19:28:31 <steven> baseball team.
19:29:02 <steven> got to play core today.
19:29:08 <Mekkis> I ran core last night
19:29:21 <Mekkis> we were thinking of doing Emerald Spire core.
19:29:31 <steven> sounds challenging.
19:29:51 <Mekkis> Decided against it, in favour of doing Emerald Spire non-pfs, and just reporting it as PFS :)
19:30:40 <Mekkis> either that, or doing it PFS, but restricting who's allowed to play with what.
19:31:02 <steven> I'm currently writing up the character entries for the people i adventured with.
19:31:26 <Mekkis> Ran First Steps core last night. Bloody Gang Up feat
19:32:30 <steven> its a nasty feat.
19:32:44 <Mekkis> Ledford got off a crit
19:32:46 <Mekkis> :(
19:33:13 <steven> did you kill somebody or just fudge it to negative hp.
19:34:13 <Mekkis> I allowed them until the end of the round to put them above -con
19:34:40 <steven> very generous
19:35:28 <steven> i dont know why they gave him a x3 weapon, he could have just had a x2 and been not so crit=death
19:42:41 <Avatar> Mekkis: https://app.roll20.net/join/626110/bhDA6w for when you're ready to join
19:42:47 <Avatar> don't forget I need your token
19:42:57 <steven> whatcha guys doin?
19:43:10 <Avatar> prepping a game for saturday morning
19:43:14 <Mekkis> okay
19:43:14 <Avatar> or friday night your time
19:43:25 <steven> cool, hope you guys have fun.
19:44:03 <Avatar> mate it's going to be biblical
19:44:55 <Mekkis> Avatar, will there be a problem if I'll be afk between 0945 and probably 1000 on that day: there's an apartment I need to check out; see if it's as good as advertised (and good for me to throw $380k at)
19:45:12 <steven> long and full of rules?
19:53:35 <Mekkis> hey Brunius_!
19:53:41 <Mekkis> Brunius_, you free on Sunday?>
19:53:47 <Brunius_> Evening, not day
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19:54:05 <Mekkis> what sort of time? 1900 alright?
19:54:19 <Brunius> Any time after 6 is fine
19:56:04 <Mekkis> Avatar, please schedule WotW for Sunday 22nd, 1900 AEDT
19:56:58 <Avatar> wow
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19:57:54 <Avatar> is it ulzef, brunius, kapow?
20:00:41 <Mekkis> yep
20:01:00 <Avatar> 7pm sunday seems a strange timeslot
20:01:15 <Avatar> how long is the session? 4 hours?
20:01:20 <Mekkis> call it 3
20:02:16 <Avatar> what part are you up to
20:03:24 <Avatar> too late, it's going up
20:05:03 <Mekkis> nearly finished part 2
20:05:54 <Avatar> as in this is the last session for part 2?
20:06:01 <Mekkis> maybe
20:06:06 <Mekkis> might be second last
20:19:56 <Avatar> I just noticed you asking me about being away between 945 and 10
20:20:08 <Avatar> if you have to go, be quick, you know what that's like for the rest of the table
20:20:48 <Avatar> this is tier 10-11, you could be dead by the time you get back
20:22:00 <Avatar> the americans are likely already staying up as late as they can for the game
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20:44:23 <steven> so 3 mythic tiers to build onto my core only cleric.
21:02:25 <Avatar> lol.
21:03:38 <Brunius> Mekkis it'll have to be the friday for me
21:03:49 <steven> I'd considered just taking the pregen mythic sheet they give you.
21:04:01 <steven> but it lacks the only ability i actually want.
21:05:09 <steven> Display of Intelligence +20 competance bonus as a free action on any int based skill.
21:05:27 <steven> oh its circumstance not comp... even better lol.
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21:30:29 <Magus> Hey, is anyone around? I just tried PCgen, and putting the files on Google Drive, and wanted to see if they work
21:30:39 <Magus> And even better, get some advice if someone is up for it xD
21:31:25 <steven> hey
21:31:31 <steven> im currently not around
21:31:41 <Magus> I assumed you died. So that happens
21:31:45 <Magus> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BztW3gycECX8RFJlbTZFYU8yQ0k/view?usp=sharing
21:32:20 <steven> decent assumption
21:32:32 <Magus> Most of my assumptions are.
21:33:09 <steven> i dont have pcgen
21:33:24 <Magus> I found my problem
21:33:25 <steven> I do all the stuff by hand.
21:33:30 <Magus> I see how to export as a pdf
21:34:26 <Magus> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BztW3gycECX8aVVUb0NwLWZYM3c/view?usp=sharing
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21:37:17 <Magus> Oh oh oh
21:37:23 <Magus> I wanted to ask how PFS does familiars
21:37:36 <Magus> Since I may obviously be replacing improved familiar xD
21:44:04 <steven> there is no reason to have improved familiar at level 1.
21:44:44 <Magus> I feel that way about most metamagic feats. Daze spell and the like
21:44:56 <Magus> The alternative was toughness, but it is just a flat 3 hp for PFS right?
21:45:11 <steven> because you dont qualify for any of the improved familiars. minimum caster level is 3 to get one.
21:45:57 <Magus> How do I acquire any in the game?
21:46:18 <steven> once you get to required level to have the improved familiar you take the feat and boom you got one.
21:47:00 <steven> I'd suggest spell focus, toughness, or a utility feat.
21:47:36 <Magus> Spell focus instead of skill focus concentration?
21:47:57 <Magus> My traits already cover that. Maybe i will go back to spell focus charm
21:48:01 <steven> there is no skill focus concentration.
21:48:20 <steven> concentration is no longer a skill, its your Caster level+casting stat.
21:48:57 <steven> so your concentration is +5 at first level
21:49:06 <steven> at second level it will be +6
21:49:17 <Magus> I see. Sorry.
21:49:20 <steven> so long as you keep taking levels in sorcerer.
21:49:23 <Magus> What about fast learner?
21:50:05 <steven> fast learner is alright
21:50:17 <steven> toughness is a better choice for first level.
21:51:13 <Magus> But what about over time? After three levels doesn't FL just win?
21:52:00 <steven> not particularly, toughness is 3hp at 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and then when you get to 4th+ its an addition hp per level.
21:52:27 <steven> so at 12th level toughness has netted a total of 12hp.
21:53:08 <Magus> Oh, I thought it was a flat 3, and nothin more
21:53:38 <steven> its a decent feat if you're low on HP.
21:54:30 <Magus> Aye. I'm tempted to take persuasive since I took the initiative trait, improved init seems overkill early
21:55:23 <steven> high initiative is very useful
21:55:42 <steven> you get to drop a spell before others get to go.
21:56:17 <Magus> Of course. hence the initial thinking
21:56:18 <steven> like vs a bunch of humans going first and dropping a fireball is pretty damn powerful.
21:56:41 <Magus> Okay, switched in toughness. So improved init, and toughness are my feats now
21:56:56 <steven> just being like hey lets start this fight with all the enemies blooded!
21:57:08 <steven> pretty good.
21:57:18 <Magus> And potentially on fire with a metamagic feat. Yea. I'm fine leaving it
21:57:36 <Magus> Even if for my first 9 adventures I'll just be casting daze 137 times
21:58:39 <Magus> So 11 hp at lvl 1?
21:58:48 <Magus> With toughness*
21:59:23 <Magus> Mmk. So any other simple thoughts?
21:59:54 <steven> simple thoughts...
22:00:09 <steven> "It's not fair I can't do things that other people can do!"
22:00:10 <Magus> Any thoughts on the character xD
22:00:16 <Magus> Simple thoughts on other things
22:00:17 <Magus> xD
22:00:23 <Magus> Yea. Like that. Continue as you like
22:00:40 <steven> "I shouldn't be penalized for when I started the Campaign."
22:00:57 <steven> "I should have all the options available to me!"
22:01:22 <steven> "This book I bought is totally worthless!"
22:01:23 <Magus> "What do you mean I can't use silent image that way? The spell description doesn't say I can't!"
22:01:42 <Magus> "You totally should judge a book by it's cover. It's summary and description is normally there"
22:02:13 <Magus> UGH I JUST WANT TO START A CAMPAIGN
22:02:15 <steven> "You removed SLA early entry? WHY I WAS GOING TO MAKE USE OF THAT IN 3 MONTHS!"
22:02:27 <Magus> I don't get that one :(
22:02:32 <Magus> Elaborate xD
22:02:37 <steven> just stuff on the paizo forum.
22:03:05 <Magus> :(
22:03:24 <steven> a faq came out last year that allowed you to get early access by using spell like abilities to qualify for prestige class prerequisites
22:03:58 <Magus> o.o
22:04:33 <steven> so an aasimar with daylight could qualify for prestige classes that required he be able to cast 3rd level arcane spells.
22:04:47 <Magus> That seems really stupid
22:04:56 <steven> without actually being able to cast any other 3rd level spells.
22:04:59 <Magus> It shouldn't work on something so conditional
22:05:00 <Magus> Yea.
22:05:03 <steven> I agree.
22:05:47 <Magus> Oh, but yea, any other recommendations, and what should I buy xD I am not naked, but that is as far as I went
22:07:15 <steven> so today they made a revision to the faq that stated that SLA could only be used to qualify for specific requirements, so instead of aasimar daylight filling requirement for arcane spellcasting 3rd level, it now counts as being able to cast daylight as the spell for any feats/whatnot that have casting daylight as a prerequisite.
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22:07:53 <Magus> That... Is exactly what it should be though
22:08:11 <Magus> Since again, they don't have access to even a majority of 3rd level spells
22:08:48 <steven> that is what was argued.
22:09:28 <steven> of course this likely never would have come up and been revised if people hadnt pushed to get the prestige class Evangalist special restriction removed.
22:10:20 <steven> because there was a special caveat for pfs that stated you couldnt take levels in the class before level 6 to specifically stop early entry.
22:10:43 <steven> and people wanted that removed.
22:11:23 <Mekkis> steven, are you sure?
22:11:40 <steven> i said likely.
22:12:17 <Mekkis> can you confirm that you didn't hear about this before they sprung it on you?
22:13:54 <steven> Mike brock clearly stated that he didnt share it outside of the office.
22:15:16 <steven> but hypothetically; if he had told me, i wouldnt be able to tell you that he told me, because it would be covered by my NDA.
22:15:39 <steven> luckily it isnt the case here, because he didnt tell anyone outside the office.
22:16:44 <Mekkis> my only character who tried to use that loophole retrained out of it a few levels ago
22:19:21 <steven> hmmm.... second bonus feat for my character from mythic.
22:30:06 <Mekkis> So, over the past couple of years, what big Pathfinder changes have happened?
22:32:57 <steven> oh mans! I'm gonna go with Alertness and Mythic Alertness.
22:36:10 <steven> @mekkis... stuff?
22:37:33 <Mekkis> Was there anything between Synthesist ban, and the SLA stuff?
22:40:15 <steven> i cant really recall anyting that shattered my pfsing.
22:40:51 <steven> none of my characters really make use of Table variation.
22:56:08 <Magus> Anyway. Nice chatting, and thank you for your help sir.
22:56:13 <Magus> I think I'm going to sleep for a few hours
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23:12:28 <Mekkis> steven, can you give me Paizo's definition of a 'rebuild'
23:12:37 <Mekkis> (as per the 'free rebuild' boon)
23:12:38 <Mekkis> ?
23:26:18 <steven> its in the guide
23:27:00 <steven> but if you're looking for specific wording, prolly on the boon trading forum.