// #d&d — 2015-02-09
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00:03:07 <Avatar> sounds kind of evil
00:54:40 <steven> I'd say its NE
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02:10:42 <Lintor> thanks avatar
07:39:16 <Mekkis> Lintor, you're doing it wrong: you should kill them and bathe in their blood
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18:44:30 <Mekkis> howzit
18:50:52 <Avatar> ya
19:05:14 <steven> sup
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19:10:33 <steven> hey tashes
19:10:38 <Tashes> heya
19:19:02 <steven> i didnt get to play core today. I had to run a game for some people who came in to dink around
19:24:45 <steven> mostly i didnt get to play because the person who couldnt play anything for credit didnt want to gm...
19:25:18 <steven> this is the same person who shows up every other week for the last year and a half... they have never GMed
19:27:41 <steven> I was a little bitter
19:34:56 <Tashes> some people just really don't liek GMing. Im' on of them
19:36:08 <Mekkis> and unwilling GM will just run things badly
19:36:51 <Tashes> "and then it starts raining skittles"
19:37:11 <Mekkis> make saves vs prismatic spray
19:37:37 <Mekkis> oh, I managed to counter a spell last Saturday
19:37:45 <Mekkis> I was on 0 hp, too
19:37:46 <Brunius_> wow
19:38:44 <Tashes> good job!
19:39:08 <Mekkis> I mean, really counterspell
19:39:18 <Avatar> with your arcanist levelz
19:39:22 <Mekkis> nope
19:39:29 <Mekkis> with the actual spell prepped
19:41:37 <Avatar> how did you know they were going to cast it
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19:43:41 <Mekkis> spellcraft check
19:43:45 <Mekkis> I was on 0hp
19:43:53 <Mekkis> I just spent my actions readying
19:44:03 <Avatar> by the time you're spellcasting, it's too late to counterspell
19:44:08 <Avatar> spellcrafting*
19:44:13 <Mekkis> nope
19:44:25 <Mekkis> ready an action to counterspell
19:44:31 <Mekkis> Spellcraft check is not an action
19:44:56 <Avatar> but readying is a standard action
19:48:54 <steven> back.
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19:50:28 <steven> I understand if people dont like GMing, but show up for a year and a half every other week and you never once even offer to GM... even when another person(me) gets pulled off their table they signed up to play at... I'm going to give you stink eye.
19:52:16 <steven> readying to counterspell is a viable tactic if you know you're up against a spell caster.
19:53:30 <Tashes> yeah making someoen else do it is kind of jerky
19:57:09 <steven> I've GMed 190 times. I have put in enough tables to confidently say GMing is not hard.
19:58:33 <steven> If you've got a level 8-11 character you've all the experience you actually need to sit behind a GM screen unless you're rocking a double digit IQ... then hey fuck it you get a pass on GMing.
19:59:13 <Tashes> This is a pretty serious rant you're on...
20:04:25 <steven> I am annoyed by it.
20:06:52 <steven> I was pulled from my game to run Silent Tide because the person refused to GM. They sat down to play for no credit to make a table have 3pcs and a kyra bot run by a player rather then 3 players and a GM controlled Kyra.
20:08:15 <steven> so yeah... lil rant...
20:13:53 * Tashes pats
20:14:05 <Avatar> do they know how to GM
20:14:52 <Mekkis> steven, 50% of people have double-digit IQs
20:15:26 <Avatar> 78% of statistics are made up on the spot
20:15:45 <Mekkis> Avatar, by definition, the average IQ is 100.
20:22:10 <Avatar> averages
20:22:23 <Avatar> that means some guy probably has like 20 while everyone else is 101
20:26:39 <steven> I know mekkis... but I like to believe that pathfinder brings to the table on average smarter people.
20:27:02 <Avatar> I actually agree with steven on that one
20:27:15 <Avatar> I see the kinds of people that play and the kinds that refuse to play
20:27:34 <Avatar> it's a sad state of affairs when you're not looking at a game of pathfinder
20:30:04 <steven> So... lets get off that topic... I bitched... it is off my chest. How bout them.....
20:30:05 <steven> uh....
20:30:12 <steven> paizo threads.
20:30:29 <Mekkis> Okay. Core.
20:30:55 <Mekkis> Is it the result of Paizo admitting that they've failed at:
20:31:06 <Mekkis> - releasing sufficient scenarios; and
20:31:13 <Mekkis> - controlling powerlevel
20:32:05 <steven> Nah...
20:32:46 <steven> I think thats a major component of Core Campaign, but there are some other really great benefits to it.
20:33:21 <Mekkis> sure, but now paizo can say: "Not enough scenarios?" "Play core"
20:33:32 <Mekkis> "Sick of unbalanced BS?" "Play core"
20:34:16 <steven> "Brand new to the game?" -play core.
20:34:30 <steven> "First time GMing?" -Gm Core.
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20:38:39 <Brunius_> I did think it was a bit sad that playing core is an odd thing now
20:41:22 <Mekkis> steven, sure, but is it Paizo tacitly admitting that they're unable to improve the scenario release schedule, or maintain balance. It feels like a band-aid solution
20:43:33 <steven> everything is a bandaid solution really. If they come out with 3 scenarios a month people will just play more.
20:43:52 <steven> If they hit more things with the ban hammer you get negative feedback on the forum.
20:44:38 <steven> just look at that early entry into evangalist thread
20:44:54 <steven> or the crane wing
20:45:05 <steven> or the synthesist summoner discussions
21:01:37 <Avatar> I realised that the bloodrager bears a striking similarity to the synthesist today
21:09:13 <steven> I always look at them as a Dragon Disciple w/o the perminent stat bonus.
21:11:33 <steven> I did make an Arcane Archer out of a Bloodrager.
21:11:40 <steven> It works pretty damn well.
21:12:46 <steven> i 'wasted' 5 build points on getting an int of 14
21:14:25 <steven> level 12 3d8+23+1d6 elemental w/ a +18 to hit.
21:16:54 <steven> i've avoided getting furious finish and just UMDing a wand of gravity bow.
21:17:52 <steven> 59+1d6 elemental
21:18:09 <steven> seems pretty silly
21:18:35 <steven> sadly i dont think i'll ever get to play that character again. GM finished college and moved back to seattle.
21:19:56 <steven> he came back to pullman for 2 days to pack up his stuff... we played 1 session that was 3 hours long.
21:20:15 <steven> and havent seen him in a month and a week now.
21:34:28 <Avatar> steven want a project?
21:34:41 <steven> !rand yes no maybe
21:34:49 <steven> !rng yes no maybe
21:34:50 <diebot> steven, no
21:34:52 <steven> nope.
21:34:54 <steven> not really.
21:34:58 <Avatar> wow thanks diebot
21:35:05 <Avatar> what an asshole
21:35:39 <steven> seriously
21:43:18 <steven> so whatcha doin that you need help on avatar.
21:46:40 <Avatar> I have a druid that needs to be retrained into a shaman
21:48:56 <steven> meh.
22:07:56 <Avatar> I can't actually remember why I was looking over the archetypes
22:08:11 <Avatar> is something wrong with straight shaman
22:08:23 <Avatar> or do any of the archetypes really stand out
22:08:39 <Avatar> I don't remember anything amazing about speaker of the past
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22:17:38 <Mekkis> !item muleback cords
22:17:52 <diebot> Mekkis, MULEBACK CORDS [faint transmutation] CL:3 shoulders 1000gp, 0.2lb
22:17:52 <diebot> These thick leather cords wrap around the wearer's biceps and shoulders. When worn, they make the wearer's muscles appear larger than normal. The wearer treats his Strength score as 8 higher than normal when determining his carrying capacity. This bonus does not apply to combat, breaking items, or any other Strength-related rolls, it only
22:17:52 <diebot> contributes to the amount of equipment or material the wearer can carry. Source: Ultimate Equipment
22:18:58 <Avatar> are you buying some muleback cords
22:19:08 <Mekkis> yes
22:19:12 <Mekkis> Ecidon needs them
22:19:22 <Mekkis> !capacity 15
22:19:23 <diebot> Mekkis, 66 if medium, 49.5 if small.
22:21:07 <Avatar> can an eidolon wear them
22:21:13 <Mekkis> yes
22:21:20 <Avatar> where's the faq for that
22:21:34 <Mekkis> no FAQ needed. APG states it
22:21:41 <Mekkis> also, Ecidon is not an eidolon
22:22:03 <Avatar> where
22:22:07 <steven> the only thing an eidolon cant wear is armor
22:23:39 <Avatar> I don't see any text saying it can wear anything
22:24:45 <Mekkis> Link (Ex)
22:24:45 <Mekkis> A summoner and his eidolon share a mental link allows for communication across any distance (as long as they are on the same plane). This communication is a free action, allowing the summoner to give orders to his eidolon at any time. In addition, magic items interfere with the summoner’s connection to his eidolon. As a result, the summoner and his eidolon share magic item slots. For example, if the summoner is wearing a ring, his eidolon can wear no
22:24:45 <Mekkis> more than one ring. In case of a conf lict, the items worn by the summoner remain active, and those used by the eidolon become dormant. The eidolon must possess the appropriate appendages to utilize a magic item.
22:24:57 <Avatar> oh found it
22:25:07 <Avatar> so you won't be wearing a shoulder slot
22:25:17 <Avatar> better to kill you with
22:25:31 <Mekkis> Ecidon is not an eidolon
22:26:39 <Avatar> lies
22:26:57 <Avatar> you're just trying to trick me into thinking you're not a summoner again
22:27:00 <Mekkis> Ecidon's to-hit is lower
22:27:10 <Avatar> because of the whole class isn't important debacle from yesterday
22:35:34 <steven> class totally isnt important.
22:38:26 <Brunius_> Class has an influence, it's not the only influencing factor
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