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29:17 <steven> wow this combat is fantastically fun.
30:02 <steven> 24 perception check doesnt see a surprise round coming in a 1-2 tier scenario
31:03 <steven> two guys step out into flanking my character 21 damage.
31:51 <steven> to my level 1... yeah so fun.
26:11 <steven2> hey.
26:15 <steven2> I was playing civ 5
30:21 steven2 is now known as steven
36:15 <Avatar> did a 24 really not see them
36:22 <Avatar> or was the GM a twerp who wouldn't retcon their error
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03:02 <Avatar> that ship vanity is really not very good
03:21 <Avatar> +2 to profession (sailor) checks and... here's the kicker.... you may use profession sailor as your day job roll
03:27 <Avatar> who wrote this?
55:32 <steven> back.
55:59 <steven> sorry i went to get tacos and then forgot to check this when i came back to the table.
56:27 <steven> sup.
57:33 <steven> well, they have a +5 modifier in the lower subtier... im going to guess they took 20 on their stealth
00:36 <steven> Shit happens ya know.  I just dislike any combat where its roll initiative, suprise round, you're out of the fight.
02:46 <steven> it was a fairly difficult scenario because we were using core characters and according to the blog... cant use combat maneuvers that arent in the core rule book... no drag, no reposition. no dirty trick.
03:16 <steven> so we couldnt drag kalkamedes(sp?)
05:02 <steven> and he is already asleep and aparantly immune to nonlethal damage.
05:17 <steven> so knocking him out doesnt work.
19:48 <Mekkis> Plane got hit by lightning?
19:50 <Mekkis> Plane got hit by lightning
42:13 <Mekkis> steven2, rules question:
42:45 <Mekkis> Can you use Two-Weapon fighting with a one-handed weapon in one hand, and armour spikes?
45:28 <Avatar> what have I done
45:41 <Mekkis> what do you mean
46:07 <Avatar> I innocently ask about armor spikes and here you are looking for optimisation routes
47:25 <Mekkis> you're the one who tries to optimise more than I do
47:50 <Avatar> I bought armor spikes so that I'd have some way of being able to hit in a grapple
47:56 <Avatar> why are you looking into them
48:33 <Mekkis> to better understand the rules
49:10 <Avatar> so if you can use two weapon fighting with armor spikes, you're still not likely to ever use them?
49:30 <Mekkis> oh, I have a character who grapples...
51:26 <Mekkis> would like to know how they would work with, say, glamoured armour
01:58 <Avatar> Mekkis: armor spikes are specifically called out as being a potential offhand weapon
02:09 <Avatar> that's only two weapon fighting terminology
07:59 <Avatar> doesn't that just make it look different
08:07 <Mekkis> sure
08:11 <Mekkis> can it hide the spikes?
08:23 <Avatar> it's part of the armour, why not
11:59 <Mekkis> Avatar, true, but...
12:21 <Mekkis> what weapon do you normally use?
12:23 <Mekkis> Two-weapon fighting says:
12:32 <Mekkis> If you _wield_ a second weapon in your off hand, you can get one extra attack per round with that weapon.
12:34 <Mekkis> if you're trying to hit in a grapple?
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17:24 <krillic> hey mates, how's it going
17:39 <Avatar> top notch
17:44 <Avatar> I think that counts mekkis
18:01 <steven> sup
18:02 <Avatar> you're always wielding armor spikes
18:21 <krillic> haven't been here in ages, im surprised i actually remember most of your names haha
18:44 <krillic> i can't remember what my username was though, was either krillic or longshot
18:51 <steven> i remember both.
19:17 <krillic> krillic was a character, maybe longshot was my username? lets see if i can log in with it
20:01 <krillic> yup, was longshot. anyways, how's everyone been the last year? anything exciting going on?
20:30 <Avatar> armor spikes
20:47 <Avatar> mate you have been missing out
21:10 <Mekkis> and when you're not in that position?
21:14 <krillic> The hours for games just got rough on here being from the states and all
21:20 <Avatar> greatsword or lucerne hammer
21:28 <krillic> had to start working early mornings at work and couldn't stay up as late as i used to
22:22 <Mekkis> hn.
23:18 <Mekkis> reasonable, I guess
23:19 <Avatar> where did you find armor spikes do 1d6 damage
23:29 <Mekkis> in the Weapons table of the CRB
26:02 <Mekkis> and to answer your question: Not for at least two levels...
26:12 <Avatar> ha
29:21 <krillic> So I will be joining a group for pathfinder next week, but all the players are pretty much brand new to the game. What kind of character do you folks think i should roll up to make it where I won't be dominating the game but will still be enjoyable? And to also cover their deficiencies. I'm assuming they'll probably be mostly archers or melee folk.
29:24 <Avatar> what levels are your characters
29:42 <krillic> my PFS characters? I haven't played them in forever
29:44 <Avatar> don't you play society
29:47 <Avatar> they are still valid
29:51 <krillic> I think my highest one is 3
30:14 <Avatar> your highest one should be 4 before you even have a second character
30:18 <krillic> and i', not even sure i still have all the reports from the games i played with them, I would probably have to start from scratch for PFS
30:36 <Avatar> you can get copies of your chronicles if you've lost them
30:39 <krillic> I only had 2 :P one bard, one ranger
31:03 <Avatar> just play your 3 before you keep playing your other one
31:34 <krillic> i would probably just start over if i started playing pfs again
32:28 <krillic> if that's even allowed. i know they're weird about playing chronicles twice or stuff like that. I'd have to just avoid ones I remember playing. 
32:37 <krillic> I've been doing mostly white wolf stuff since i left.
32:54 <krillic> lots of werewolf, some ampire and changeling
32:58 <krillic> vampire*
35:10 <Mekkis> I'd want to find a way to make them merciful
36:36 <Avatar> they can be enchanted like any weapon
37:08 <Avatar> start over?
37:13 <Avatar> while you have 2 characters
38:57 <krillic> I just don't even have their character sheets anymore, and i don't think the ones on here are entirely accurate because i played games with them in real life as well at a gaming shop nearby before it went out of business.
40:23 <Avatar> what classes did you have
40:36 <krillic> a ranger and a bard
40:54 <Avatar> if you haven't played for a year and forget how it was set up, your character doesn't have to be 100% accurate, just fix it up as best you can
41:03 <Avatar> at level 3 or less, there won't be much you're missing
41:27 <Avatar> go here: https://secure.paizo.com/pathfinderSociety/myAccount
41:38 <Avatar> log in and then you'll see your characters
41:47 <Avatar> click on sessions next to whoever you played
42:07 <Avatar> I'll help sort out chronicles for you once you work out which scenarios you played
44:22 <Avatar> you have 5 characters registered on here and 4 registered on paizo
44:25 <krillic> the site says I've played 3 with krillic and 1 with dandy but i know that ca't be right 
44:37 <krillic> I've only ever played with 2 of them though
44:43 <krillic> I just like rolling up characters
44:48 <Avatar> okay well why can't that be right
45:35 <krillic> because 3 scenarios means level 2 and I know I've gotten to a higher level than that
45:55 <Avatar> are you looking at the level you entered, or the Sessions bit
46:04 <krillic> the sessions bit
46:04 <Avatar> the level you entered doesn't automatically update
46:09 <Avatar> what scenarios did you play
46:34 <krillic> infernal vault
46:37 <krillic> beggars paerl
46:45 <krillic> hydra's fang
47:04 <krillic> im pretty sure my real life dms were just shitty about entering info on the site is why they're not all there
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47:14 <krillic> part of the reason they went out of business
47:20 <Avatar> if you can't chase them up, they're lost
47:28 <Avatar> which by the sounds of it, is okay by you
47:46 <Avatar> if that puts you at only just hitting level 2, you can actually retrain your whole character
48:34 <Avatar> grab this to get started: http://paizo.com/products/btpy84k4
48:40 <krillic> Why is that better than just forgetting about my old characters and just starting a new one?
48:57 <Avatar> it's 3 free experience to begin with
49:14 <Avatar> you shouldn't just abandon old games, because that hurts other people who are trying to get higher level games happening
49:23 <Avatar> that's why you shouldn't have a second character until you hit level 4
49:41 <krillic> are there not many lower level games on here anymore
49:47 <Avatar> there are too many
50:20 <Avatar> a lot of people quit the game before hitting level 5, so instead of playing higher level games, people who have been with the game for longer are forced to play 1-5's
50:20 <krillic> gotcha 
50:35 <krillic> the hours issue is still a thing though
50:45 <Avatar> what hours issue
51:15 <krillic> im in america. my ideal playing time is when most australians are sleeping haha
51:37 <Avatar> the beauty of PFS is you don't always have to play with us
51:53 <Avatar> also that you can come back a year later and your characters are still intact and usable
51:58 <Avatar> basically exactly what you need
52:01 <krillic> there's no where here who really plays anymore since the shop closed down
53:20 <Avatar> 513+509+456 = 1478
53:27 <Avatar> that's how much gold you'd get from those 3 scenarios you played
53:35 <Avatar> and add the 150gp starting gold
53:53 <krillic> and just make any level 2 character i want? with that much gold?
53:57 <Avatar> yeah
54:11 <Avatar> make sure you download the guide and read the bit about retraining your 1st level character
54:48 <Avatar> page 10
55:11 <Avatar> I'm going to work soon so I'll send you the actual chronicles later
55:29 <krillic> i remeber one of the scenarios though being a higher level than i really should have been playing, so i got more gold. because it was on here and pretty much everone else was 2 or 3
55:51 <krillic> infernal vault i think
56:10 <Avatar> you actually played that with me, I've got your chronicle here
56:32 <Avatar> 1634gp instead of 513gp
56:51 <krillic> what kind of character is needed most over here?
57:01 <krillic> if i were to rebuild
57:09 <Avatar> there's no such thing 
57:11 <Avatar> play what you want
57:30 <Avatar> just make sure you have the books for whatever you're creating
57:34 <krillic> I want to play everything. hence my 5 character sheets hahaha
57:41 <Avatar> yeah pick one
57:52 <Avatar> jump on skype
57:53 <krillic> have fun at work! see ya
58:04 <krillic> right now or later
58:07 <Avatar> now
58:52 <Avatar> you actually had two different names for this character
59:05 <Avatar> so I've got two of your sheets
59:38 <krillic> for krillic?
59:44 <Avatar> krillic and dandy
59:52 <krillic> dandy was the bard
59:55 <Avatar> one might have been you playing as a pregen
00:10 <Avatar> are you jumping on
00:45 <krillic> trying
01:12 <Avatar> skype actually saved the whole conversation from 2 years ago
01:16 <Avatar> you did play a pregen
01:42 <Avatar> pass me your email address
02:36 <krillic> [email protected]
03:00 <krillic> sorry trying to recover skype password
06:41 <krillic> it's not accepting my login info on skype for some reason
06:49 <krillic> even reset the password and can't login.
07:12 <krillic> I'll figure it out later, thanks for emailing the chronicle sheets
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07:23 <Dunemous> Hi
08:08 <Dunemous> Anybody on here?
08:32 <krillic> not too many. just me and avatar i think, but he left/is leaving for work
08:53 <Dunemous> Howdy! 
09:02 <Dunemous> I just discovered his site
09:04 <Dunemous> This
09:11 <Avatar> yo
09:16 <Avatar> email send krillic
09:18 <Avatar> sent*
09:29 <Dunemous> So is this an online version of Pathfinder?
09:33 <krillic> thanks man
09:55 <krillic> and yes. most players are from australia.
09:55 <Avatar> you might need to change your email address in your account settings
10:13 <Dunemous> Woo! I'm in Australia, too. :)
10:22 <Avatar> where abouts?
10:54 <Dunemous> I haven't read much on the site yet. Does it explain how to join in? I'm in Brisbane.
11:18 <Avatar> you join in by rolling up a character
11:21 <Avatar> have you played pathfinder society
11:22 <Dunemous> I'm definitely interested in trying to get involved in some online RP goodness. :)
11:30 <Dunemous> No I havent.
11:34 <Avatar> grab this to get started: http://paizo.com/products/btpy84k4
11:55 <Avatar> and go through this: pathfindersocietyonline.com/gettingstarted/
12:38 <Dunemous> I own the core book and the bestiary, at least. Do I need more than those?
13:43 <Dunemous> Ok cool I'll definitely check those sites out.
14:17 <Dunemous> Where are you located?
14:56 <krillic> im out! see you guys
15:04 <Dunemous> Peace out!
15:34 <Dunemous> I'm on my iPad on my way to work at the moment so I'll leave shortly, too.
17:06 <Avatar> you only need the core rulebook and the PFS guide I just linked you
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09:08 <steven> suuuuuuuuuup
09:13 <steven> im down at the shop.
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26:25 <steven2> hey.
26:29 <steven2> I was playing civ 5
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02:13 <Avatar> Mekkis: armor spikes are specifically called out as being a potential offhand weapon
02:24 <Avatar> that's only two weapon fighting terminology
12:15 <Mekkis> Avatar, true, but...
12:38 <Mekkis> Two-weapon fighting says:
12:47 <Mekkis> If you _wield_ a second weapon in your off hand, you can get one extra attack per round with that weapon.
17:39 <krillic> hey mates, how's it going
17:54 <Avatar> top notch
17:59 <Avatar> I think that counts mekkis
18:16 <steven> sup
18:17 <Avatar> you're always wielding armor spikes
18:36 <krillic> haven't been here in ages, im surprised i actually remember most of your names haha
18:59 <krillic> i can't remember what my username was though, was either krillic or longshot
19:06 <steven> i remember both.
19:32 <krillic> krillic was a character, maybe longshot was my username? lets see if i can log in with it
20:16 <krillic> yup, was longshot. anyways, how's everyone been the last year? anything exciting going on?
21:02 <Avatar> mate you have been missing out
21:29 <krillic> The hours for games just got rough on here being from the states and all
21:43 <krillic> had to start working early mornings at work and couldn't stay up as late as i used to
29:36 <krillic> So I will be joining a group for pathfinder next week, but all the players are pretty much brand new to the game. What kind of character do you folks think i should roll up to make it where I won't be dominating the game but will still be enjoyable? And to also cover their deficiencies. I'm assuming they'll probably be mostly archers or melee folk.
29:39 <Avatar> what levels are your characters
29:57 <krillic> my PFS characters? I haven't played them in forever
29:59 <Avatar> don't you play society
30:02 <Avatar> they are still valid
30:06 <krillic> I think my highest one is 3
30:29 <Avatar> your highest one should be 4 before you even have a second character
30:33 <krillic> and i', not even sure i still have all the reports from the games i played with them, I would probably have to start from scratch for PFS
30:51 <Avatar> you can get copies of your chronicles if you've lost them
30:54 <krillic> I only had 2 :P one bard, one ranger
31:18 <Avatar> just play your 3 before you keep playing your other one
31:48 <krillic> i would probably just start over if i started playing pfs again
32:43 <krillic> if that's even allowed. i know they're weird about playing chronicles twice or stuff like that. I'd have to just avoid ones I remember playing. 
32:52 <krillic> I've been doing mostly white wolf stuff since i left.
33:09 <krillic> lots of werewolf, some ampire and changeling
33:13 <krillic> vampire*
37:23 <Avatar> start over?
37:28 <Avatar> while you have 2 characters
39:12 <krillic> I just don't even have their character sheets anymore, and i don't think the ones on here are entirely accurate because i played games with them in real life as well at a gaming shop nearby before it went out of business.
40:38 <Avatar> what classes did you have
40:51 <krillic> a ranger and a bard
41:09 <Avatar> if you haven't played for a year and forget how it was set up, your character doesn't have to be 100% accurate, just fix it up as best you can
41:18 <Avatar> at level 3 or less, there won't be much you're missing
41:42 <Avatar> go here: https://secure.paizo.com/pathfinderSociety/myAccount
41:53 <Avatar> log in and then you'll see your characters
42:02 <Avatar> click on sessions next to whoever you played
42:22 <Avatar> I'll help sort out chronicles for you once you work out which scenarios you played
44:37 <Avatar> you have 5 characters registered on here and 4 registered on paizo
44:40 <krillic> the site says I've played 3 with krillic and 1 with dandy but i know that ca't be right 
44:52 <krillic> I've only ever played with 2 of them though
44:58 <krillic> I just like rolling up characters
45:03 <Avatar> okay well why can't that be right
45:50 <krillic> because 3 scenarios means level 2 and I know I've gotten to a higher level than that
46:10 <Avatar> are you looking at the level you entered, or the Sessions bit
46:19 <krillic> the sessions bit
46:19 <Avatar> the level you entered doesn't automatically update
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46:24 <Avatar> what scenarios did you play
46:49 <krillic> infernal vault
46:52 <krillic> beggars paerl
47:00 <krillic> hydra's fang
47:19 <krillic> im pretty sure my real life dms were just shitty about entering info on the site is why they're not all there
47:29 <krillic> part of the reason they went out of business
47:34 <Avatar> if you can't chase them up, they're lost
47:43 <Avatar> which by the sounds of it, is okay by you
48:01 <Avatar> if that puts you at only just hitting level 2, you can actually retrain your whole character
48:48 <Avatar> grab this to get started: http://paizo.com/products/btpy84k4
48:55 <krillic> Why is that better than just forgetting about my old characters and just starting a new one?
49:12 <Avatar> it's 3 free experience to begin with
49:29 <Avatar> you shouldn't just abandon old games, because that hurts other people who are trying to get higher level games happening
49:38 <Avatar> that's why you shouldn't have a second character until you hit level 4
49:56 <krillic> are there not many lower level games on here anymore
50:02 <Avatar> there are too many
50:35 <Avatar> a lot of people quit the game before hitting level 5, so instead of playing higher level games, people who have been with the game for longer are forced to play 1-5's
50:35 <krillic> gotcha 
50:50 <krillic> the hours issue is still a thing though
51:00 <Avatar> what hours issue
51:30 <krillic> im in america. my ideal playing time is when most australians are sleeping haha
51:52 <Avatar> the beauty of PFS is you don't always have to play with us
52:08 <Avatar> also that you can come back a year later and your characters are still intact and usable
52:13 <Avatar> basically exactly what you need
52:16 <krillic> there's no where here who really plays anymore since the shop closed down
53:35 <Avatar> 513+509+456 = 1478
53:42 <Avatar> that's how much gold you'd get from those 3 scenarios you played
53:49 <Avatar> and add the 150gp starting gold
54:08 <krillic> and just make any level 2 character i want? with that much gold?
54:12 <Avatar> yeah
54:26 <Avatar> make sure you download the guide and read the bit about retraining your 1st level character
55:03 <Avatar> page 10
55:26 <Avatar> I'm going to work soon so I'll send you the actual chronicles later
55:44 <krillic> i remeber one of the scenarios though being a higher level than i really should have been playing, so i got more gold. because it was on here and pretty much everone else was 2 or 3
56:06 <krillic> infernal vault i think
56:24 <Avatar> you actually played that with me, I've got your chronicle here
56:47 <Avatar> 1634gp instead of 513gp
57:06 <krillic> what kind of character is needed most over here?
57:15 <krillic> if i were to rebuild
57:24 <Avatar> there's no such thing 
57:26 <Avatar> play what you want
57:45 <Avatar> just make sure you have the books for whatever you're creating
57:49 <krillic> I want to play everything. hence my 5 character sheets hahaha
57:56 <Avatar> yeah pick one
58:07 <Avatar> jump on skype
58:08 <krillic> have fun at work! see ya
58:19 <krillic> right now or later
58:22 <Avatar> now
59:07 <Avatar> you actually had two different names for this character
59:20 <Avatar> so I've got two of your sheets
59:53 <krillic> for krillic?
59:59 <Avatar> krillic and dandy
00:07 <krillic> dandy was the bard
00:10 <Avatar> one might have been you playing as a pregen
00:25 <Avatar> are you jumping on
01:00 <krillic> trying
01:27 <Avatar> skype actually saved the whole conversation from 2 years ago
01:31 <Avatar> you did play a pregen
01:57 <Avatar> pass me your email address
02:51 <krillic> [email protected]
03:15 <krillic> sorry trying to recover skype password
06:56 <krillic> it's not accepting my login info on skype for some reason
07:04 <krillic> even reset the password and can't login.
07:27 <krillic> I'll figure it out later, thanks for emailing the chronicle sheets
07:38 <Dunemous> Hi
08:23 <Dunemous> Anybody on here?
08:47 <krillic> not too many. just me and avatar i think, but he left/is leaving for work
09:08 <Dunemous> Howdy! 
09:17 <Dunemous> I just discovered his site
09:19 <Dunemous> This
09:26 <Avatar> yo
09:31 <Avatar> email send krillic
09:33 <Avatar> sent*
09:44 <Dunemous> So is this an online version of Pathfinder?
09:48 <krillic> thanks man
10:10 <krillic> and yes. most players are from australia.
10:10 <Avatar> you might need to change your email address in your account settings
10:28 <Dunemous> Woo! I'm in Australia, too. :)
10:37 <Avatar> where abouts?
11:09 <Dunemous> I haven't read much on the site yet. Does it explain how to join in? I'm in Brisbane.
11:33 <Avatar> you join in by rolling up a character
11:36 <Avatar> have you played pathfinder society
11:37 <Dunemous> I'm definitely interested in trying to get involved in some online RP goodness. :)
11:45 <Dunemous> No I havent.
11:49 <Avatar> grab this to get started: http://paizo.com/products/btpy84k4
12:10 <Avatar> and go through this: pathfindersocietyonline.com/gettingstarted/
12:52 <Dunemous> I own the core book and the bestiary, at least. Do I need more than those?
13:58 <Dunemous> Ok cool I'll definitely check those sites out.
14:32 <Dunemous> Where are you located?
15:11 <krillic> im out! see you guys
15:19 <Dunemous> Peace out!
15:49 <Dunemous> I'm on my iPad on my way to work at the moment so I'll leave shortly, too.
17:21 <Avatar> you only need the core rulebook and the PFS guide I just linked you
29:01 <steven> wow this combat is fantastically fun.
29:47 <steven> 24 perception check doesnt see a surprise round coming in a 1-2 tier scenario
30:48 <steven> two guys step out into flanking my character 21 damage.
31:36 <steven> to my level 1... yeah so fun.
09:23 <steven> suuuuuuuuuup
09:28 <steven> im down at the shop.
36:00 <Avatar> did a 24 really not see them
36:06 <Avatar> or was the GM a twerp who wouldn't retcon their error
02:47 <Avatar> that ship vanity is really not very good
03:05 <Avatar> +2 to profession (sailor) checks and... here's the kicker.... you may use profession sailor as your day job roll
03:12 <Avatar> who wrote this?
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55:17 <steven> back.
55:44 <steven> sorry i went to get tacos and then forgot to check this when i came back to the table.
57:17 <steven> well, they have a +5 modifier in the lower subtier... im going to guess they took 20 on their stealth
00:21 <steven> Shit happens ya know.  I just dislike any combat where its roll initiative, suprise round, you're out of the fight.
02:30 <steven> it was a fairly difficult scenario because we were using core characters and according to the blog... cant use combat maneuvers that arent in the core rule book... no drag, no reposition. no dirty trick.
03:01 <steven> so we couldnt drag kalkamedes(sp?)
04:47 <steven> and he is already asleep and aparantly immune to nonlethal damage.
05:02 <steven> so knocking him out doesnt work.
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58:54 <Mekkis> steven, just a sec...
59:57 <Mekkis> So if I'm GMing a Core game, and a PC says: "I'm going to pull him along with me", I'm not allowed to adjudicate that as being a 'drag' or 'reposition' manoeuvre?
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