// #d&d — 2015-02-12
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00:02:13 <steven> ah good times.
00:03:11 <steven> i think it was about two weeks ago i walked onto a table of Next and then once we finished the session up they switched GMs and we played some 13th age.
00:09:26 <Mekkis> Druid is a fun class
00:09:43 <Mekkis> Still think it's on the high end of the power scale
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00:21:34 <Lintor> hola people of the interwebs
00:22:40 <Lintor> *chirp chirp*
00:22:48 <Mekkis> xzzx
00:23:10 <Mekkis> Ilvan crated Neftis
00:23:37 <Mekkis> and missed out on the second prestige because he failed to recruit him into the Society. I called BS
00:24:28 <Mekkis> "You mean we're supposed to recruit someone who has already betrayed the society at least TWICE?"
00:29:30 <steven> of course!
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03:59:07 <Lintor> hey i say if he is in a crate he is working for em
07:47:55 <Avatar> if he is in a crate he is basically an asset
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12:26:54 <longshot> hello all
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21:39:48 <Lintor> anyone know what you have to do to play a single character through the whole of emerald spire
21:40:05 <Avatar> slow track
21:40:12 <Avatar> certain levels
21:43:20 <Avatar> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEz32uR7AY8
21:43:25 <diebot> Avatar, Know Direction 101 - Strategic Society
21:45:32 <steven> yo
21:48:03 <Avatar> ya
21:48:56 <steven> i should probably finish watching that
21:49:03 <Avatar> I'm going to aim to run a game weekend after next
21:49:31 <steven> core?
21:50:21 <Avatar> if you want
21:50:40 <steven> cool
21:50:43 <Avatar> I don't actually like the core campaign, but if it works I'll run it
21:50:49 <steven> I GM'd twice tonight.
21:50:49 <Avatar> what level is your core
21:51:03 <steven> I am so fucking tired.
21:51:27 <Avatar> ?????
21:51:44 <steven> my voice... it shot.
21:51:56 <steven> I GM'd 8 hours straight.
21:52:07 <Avatar> what level is your core character
21:52:21 <steven> 2 and 3
21:52:25 <Avatar> I would avoid GMing two games in a row at all costs
21:52:34 <steven> I also have a level 1 with no credit
21:52:41 <Avatar> I wouldn't mind GMing wounded wisp
21:52:58 <steven> I did Devil we know p4
21:53:04 <Avatar> john needs new glasses I think
21:53:07 <Avatar> he fixes them a lot
21:53:18 <steven> and then immediately GM'd destiny of sands p1
21:54:04 <Avatar> I really dont' find core appealing at all, especially with the way people talk about it
21:54:15 <Avatar> even in your case
21:54:20 <Avatar> the only good reason is to get a challenge
21:54:35 <Avatar> to play for replay seems like less of a reason
21:54:42 <Avatar> I don't like replaying scenarios
21:55:42 <steven> you'd like it if you came to our shop to play... we have a lot of fun
21:56:01 <steven> but i know of several people i'd never want to replay
21:56:20 <Brunius> if the scenarios are scaled now so that core only characters can't compete
21:56:20 <Brunius> well
21:56:25 <Brunius> I'd say that's an issue with the scenarios
21:56:43 <steven> We havent had a problem so far.
21:56:52 <steven> with scenario difficulty.
21:57:35 <steven> We've done night march of kalkimedies, before the dawn p1 and p2, the devil we know 1-4, and now we are starting in on Destiny of the Sands.
21:57:51 <Avatar> none of those are difficult
21:57:55 <Avatar> get to season 4
21:58:03 <Avatar> play with a party of 5
21:58:11 <steven> we've been playing with a part of 4.
21:58:17 <steven> party even.
21:59:07 <steven> i dont know if there is anything in season 4 we want to play.
21:59:17 <steven> that fits into our storyline.
21:59:35 <steven> The Blackroe Matrimony perhaps.
22:00:28 <Avatar> this podcast is repeating a lot of what they've already said in the blog
22:00:43 <steven> yeah.
22:00:49 <Avatar> which makes me quite comfortable to stop watching the next 2 hours of it
22:00:56 <steven> but some people dont frequent paizo.
22:01:13 <Avatar> yeah so they can watch youtube for 200 minutes or read 2 blogs for 5 minutes
22:01:31 <steven> some people like youtube?
22:01:40 <Avatar> some people want to fawn over john compton I think
22:02:32 <steven> whom would you recommend they fawn over?
22:03:31 <Avatar> john
22:03:47 <Avatar> well maybe liz courts
22:05:00 <steven> the only reason we are going into the destiny of the sands is because of Nefti in Devil we know.
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22:05:23 <Avatar> you know the problem with continuing characters in PFS
22:05:24 <steven> that bastard tricked us and a couple of the more vengeance minded folk were like... lets chase them down!
22:05:30 <Avatar> I can never remember where the hell they're from or what the hell they did
22:05:46 <Avatar> I have trouble with tancred desimire
22:05:51 <Avatar> I know he is a bad guy and that's it
22:06:15 <Avatar> I think matrimony had him as a dude you could go up to and talk to
22:06:24 <Avatar> but that seems too weird
22:06:36 <Avatar> what if you decide to kill him there and then
22:07:01 <steven> then you get thrown in jail for murdering a person at a wedding?
22:07:17 <Avatar> who cares
22:07:19 <Avatar> the bad guy is dead
22:07:29 <steven> and your character is unplayable?
22:07:36 <Avatar> that's a good way to go out
22:07:45 <Avatar> you'll be a martyr
22:07:57 <steven> then someone gathers up a lock of the guys hair and casts ressurection on him.
22:08:06 <steven> he is alive... you're in jail.
22:08:16 <steven> doesnt sound very effective.
22:08:18 <Avatar> nobody's grabbing a lock of his hair
22:08:31 <Avatar> do you go around grabbing locks of people's hairs
22:08:47 <steven> if i am one of his cronies... yeah probably.
22:08:54 <Avatar> no you don't
22:08:59 <Avatar> nobody grabs locks of hair
22:09:02 <Avatar> it's not done
22:09:12 <steven> its done if you wanna ressurect someone.
22:09:39 <Avatar> you could just burn the body or some such
22:09:45 <Avatar> you set hair on fire you know what happens
22:09:55 <Avatar> let's just say don't get a lighter happening near your beard
22:10:34 <steven> anyways... nefti and his homie kafar stole a bell from the Swift prison
22:10:40 <Brunius> can you fireball someone to stop resurrection?
22:11:04 <Avatar> is resurrection a standard action
22:11:21 <Avatar> there was this big debate on how you use foci with spells
22:11:35 <Avatar> do you take a focus out of your backpack before you cast it
22:11:44 <steven> and they are aspis agents.
22:12:30 <steven> who manipulated some derro into kidnapping people and they even went so far as to put a note on a derro that was basically "HA HA SUCKERS WE STOLE THE BELL!"
22:12:45 <steven> so... yeah. they are douches.
22:18:23 <Brunius> "After fending off a band of naked brigands sporting a half-chub, you find
22:18:24 <Brunius> an Orc Double axe that is more likely to cut you than your opponent, where one side has a +5 Blue Raspberry, Flaming (if you know what I mean) enchantment. And the other side is cursed to shit.
22:18:24 <Brunius> "
22:19:12 <steven> ...
22:19:12 <Avatar> I think when my biggest problem retraining my druid into a shaman is his fucked up stats
22:19:30 <Avatar> 14 14 14 12 20 10
22:19:41 <steven> those seem like decent stats to me.
22:19:47 <Avatar> not for shaman
22:19:52 <Avatar> shaman needs wis and cha, and maybe int
22:19:57 <Avatar> I have a 12 and a 9
22:20:01 <Avatar> at level 8
22:20:18 <Avatar> those str and dex scores are doing me no favours
22:20:26 <Avatar> I will have to buy a headband of cha I think
22:20:45 <Avatar> I managed to get to 20 wis without a headband and without starting at 18
22:20:47 <Avatar> that is pretty sweet
22:21:15 <Avatar> about 20k in the coffers
22:21:16 <steven> shamans really dont need that much cha.
22:21:23 <Avatar> they need alotta cha
22:21:37 <Avatar> a +4 headband is going to set me back 16k steven
22:21:43 <Avatar> I still need to spend cash to retrain
22:21:55 <Avatar> and even then that'll be a +2 mod
22:21:59 <steven> the channeling shaman needs cha.
22:22:09 <Avatar> you're jokin' me
22:22:29 <Avatar> show me a spirit that doesn't need cha
22:23:46 <Lintor> shaman should have stayed a cha caster
22:23:46 <steven> what spirit really needs it? most get 3+Cha uses per day... with a 10 cha you still get 3 uses per day.
22:24:02 <Brunius> Avatar: Is Steam working?
22:24:19 <Avatar> yep
22:24:22 <Brunius> huh
22:24:23 <Avatar> I have been playing evolve all night also
22:24:23 <Lintor> avatar what time you on until tonight?
22:24:27 <Brunius> something's funky with my install then
22:24:33 <Avatar> I am about an hour overdue for bed
22:24:34 <Brunius> keeps freezing my comp, now it won't connect
22:24:49 <Avatar> reboot or reinstall
22:25:01 <Lintor> wanna play some evolve tomorrow?
22:25:45 <Avatar> undoubtedly
22:26:03 <steven> is more cha better then less cha... yes. but that doesnt mean you NEED 6 uses of an ability that makes you enlarge or that lets you do a touch attack that deals 1d6+1/2lvl
22:26:06 <Avatar> a lot earlier than this though
22:26:24 <Avatar> steven: I notice you couldn't find me a spirit
22:26:44 <Avatar> I don't blame you, I couldn't find one either
22:26:54 <Avatar> nothing that is acceptable with 10 cha
22:27:16 <Avatar> what was I thinking, a 10 cha aasimar
22:27:21 <steven> be a battle shaman.
22:27:29 <Avatar> I don't want to be a battle shaman
22:27:35 <Avatar> ideally I wanted heavens
22:27:51 <Avatar> anything else I could work with, but not battle
22:28:07 <Avatar> although my stats might force me to go battle
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22:28:54 <steven> so.... be a heavens oracle?
22:28:59 <Avatar> needs cha!
22:29:07 <Avatar> heavens shaman
22:29:29 <steven> not really?
22:30:15 <Lintor> so avatar what game you thinking of running?
22:30:22 <Avatar> 2 of the 4 hexes require cha
22:30:29 <Avatar> what's your poison
22:30:36 <Avatar> do you want core or non-core
22:30:44 <Lintor> ether or
22:30:50 <Avatar> wounded wisp is on my radar
22:31:14 <Avatar> I haven't looked at it yet and forgot to buy it during the sale as expected
22:31:52 <steven> if by 2 out of 4 you mean one out of five heavens hexs you are correct. the ONE hex that uses it sucks pretty hard.
22:32:40 <Avatar> 2 of 5 sorry
22:32:52 <Lintor> sounds good have not played yet have both core and non core i would be happy to play it on
22:33:12 <Avatar> cool
22:33:48 <steven> the only heavens hex that uses cha is starburn. It has uses 3+cha and does 1d6/2 levels fort halves.
22:34:06 <steven> not 3+cha
22:34:11 <Avatar> Guiding Star (Su): Whenever the shaman can see the open sky at night, she can determine her precise location and can add her Wisdom modifier to her Charisma modifier on all Charisma-based skill checks. In addition, once per night while outdoors, she can cast one spell as if it were modified by the Empower Spell, Extend Spell, Silent Spell, or Still Spell feat without increasing the spell's casting
22:34:11 <Avatar> time or level. The shaman doesn't need to possess the feat to use this ability.
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22:34:24 <steven> its uses of Cha mod.
22:34:38 <Avatar> to be fair, I don't know how often I will be outside at night to cast matamagicked spells
22:35:03 <steven> why dont you just give that guiding star a read again...
22:35:18 <Avatar> I have read it yo
22:35:56 <Avatar> ok bedtime
22:36:06 <steven> its 1/night for metamagic and you add your wis to cha based skills while under the night sky.
22:36:34 <steven> absolutely nothing to do with having a positive cha mod... infact i'd say it actually encourages you not have a high cha mod.
22:37:51 <steven> the only abilities that use a positive cha mod are the starburn which let you do 1d6/2 levels a number of times per day equal to cha mod and stardust that gives enemies a penalty to hit a number of times per day equal to 3+cha mod.
22:38:28 <steven> the former is a hex, the latter is a spirit ability
22:39:03 <steven> the spirit ability is decent, but I wouldnt really invest in it very much.
23:38:27 <Mekkis> Wow!
23:38:29 <Mekkis> http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p5c7&page=28?Boon-Trading-Thread#1376
23:39:01 <Mekkis> So non-con race boons are allowed in core?!
23:46:22 <steven> iunno
23:50:15 <steven> I got my terrible cleric and terrible druid.
23:51:53 <steven> i'll reread it tomorrow when im not headaching out
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