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01:35:20 <Steven> sweet they are switching shaman from cleric list to druid list
01:35:29 <Yiroep> I know, right?
01:35:32 <Yiroep> That's awesome.
01:38:07 <Steven> pretty happy bout that.
01:38:18 <Yiroep> Makes it a far more unique class imo.
01:39:10 <Steven> yeah, well it seemed really weird how it was cleric list considering the flavor shaman brings
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05:24:08 <CWheezy> those goddamn numbers
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07:46:02 <Mekkis> I'm happy about that
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09:02:57 <Mekkis> I feel the druid list is really underrepresented
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14:54:56 <Ulzef> more likly to play one
15:59:47 <Avatar> play one what
16:02:20 <Ulzef> a shamman with the spell list change
16:05:09 <Ulzef> and how are you avatar
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16:07:32 <Avatar> loving it
16:07:37 <Avatar> yeah that was a welcome change
16:07:57 <Avatar> I read over the confirmation today
16:08:06 <Avatar> we're safe to play it tomorrow night I think
16:08:30 <Avatar> saturday night I think I'm busy, so it's either tomorrow night or saturday morning
16:08:50 <Ulzef> i am deff up for it tomorrow night
16:11:14 <Avatar> it looks really good
16:11:20 <Avatar> first steps part 4, basically
16:11:34 <Avatar> though the boon is slightly better on a brand new character
16:11:47 <Avatar> nothing to sneeze at if it's not brand new though
16:11:57 <Avatar> sorry, one of the boons
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16:20:09 <Avatar> trust Tashes
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16:28:09 <Steven> confirmation... pretty good so far.
16:31:45 <Ulzef> trying to work out what to make for it
16:33:57 <Steven> i know what its gonna make out of whatever you design... a body.
16:33:59 <Steven> BOOSH!
16:34:49 <Ulzef> thats not nice steven we can't all have as much cheese as you
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16:38:17 <Steven> yes you can! i promise
16:38:31 <Steven> you just have to know where to look!
16:40:13 <Avatar> buying the whole of serpent's skull is an $83 discount during the sale
17:06:42 <Steven> so what up yo
17:07:08 <Ulzef> making a body for tomorrow night
17:11:53 <Steven> coo coo
17:19:50 <Avatar> what's a body
17:24:38 <Ulzef> well apprently it does not matterr what i make for tomorrow night it will be a body
17:24:47 <Ulzef> so i am making a body
17:26:22 <Steven> cadaverific!
17:39:34 <Ulzef> steven you know of anyway to get summon natures on a wizards list?
17:39:51 <Steven> yeah... cheat
17:39:53 <Steven> lol
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17:41:27 <Steven> had to restart
17:41:37 <Steven> um, i dont know of any other way right now.
17:41:46 <Ulzef> hmmm
17:41:58 <Ulzef> might have to go the alcy then
17:48:08 <Steven> if you go alchy
17:48:10 <Steven> you must say
17:48:17 <Steven> everytime you start summong
17:48:20 <Steven> summoning
17:48:31 <Steven> "I throw a Fetus on the floor..."
17:53:31 <Ulzef> never
17:53:45 <Steven> doooooo et!
17:53:50 <Ulzef> it's "I choose you Grizzly bear"
17:54:04 <Steven> thats not as cool
17:54:18 <Brunius> Steeeeeeeeeveeeeeeeeennnnn
17:54:25 <Steven> sup brun
17:54:28 <Steven> how you do
18:07:06 <Steven> suppose i could play tomorrow night.
18:07:12 <Steven> since it starts at 1130
18:11:47 <Ulzef> thinking of making Ulzef's brother a drunken brewer alchy
18:16:53 <Avatar> what's the current version of the PFS guide
18:19:28 <Steven> 5.o
18:19:31 <Steven> 5.0 even
18:21:10 <Steven> so what should i make?
18:21:19 <Avatar> a rogue
18:21:25 <Brunius> oh dear lord yes
18:21:26 <Brunius> do it
18:21:31 * Steven slaps avatar in the face
18:22:06 <Brunius> Mekkis: Tanks?
18:22:26 <Avatar> what's the problem
18:22:37 <Steven> but... i dont like rogues.
18:22:45 <Avatar> what about that sherlock character you were making
18:22:49 <Avatar> have you made an investigator yet
18:23:01 <Steven> no i read it and was like meh.
18:23:34 <Avatar> man there's no pleasing you
18:24:21 <Steven> not for you!
18:25:34 <Steven> i dont want to make a rogue
18:26:17 <Avatar> guys when you play games in CA, do you prefer maps that take up the screen, or having those big maps reduced down
18:26:48 <Avatar> keeping in mind you can resize the window and use scroll bars, sort of
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18:28:40 <Brunius> I prefer smaller maps
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18:32:52 <Brunius> I prefer smaller maps
18:35:00 <Steven> how bout i make a bard instead of a rogue!
18:37:53 <Steven> huh huh? sounds pretty good right?
18:39:56 <Avatar> no rogue only
18:40:27 <Steven> I will never play a rogue!
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18:48:41 <Avatar> good grief
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18:49:18 <Steven> see... the channel is upset at you for trying to make me play a rogue.
18:51:27 <Avatar> I don't care, I beat it
18:51:30 <Avatar> so now you have to play a rogue
18:51:40 <Avatar> what's wrong with a rogue anyway
18:51:44 <Avatar> you can build anything if you set your mind to it
18:52:15 <Steven> you mean other than they are pretty much shit when compared to all the other martial classes?
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18:54:00 <Avatar> they're good if played properly
18:54:37 <Steven> no
18:54:41 <Steven> they are decent if played properly
18:54:54 <Mekkis> Brunius, Tanks in about 30 minutes?
18:55:31 <Mekkis> Avatar, how would you know, you're not really the pinnacle of "playing a character properly"
18:55:54 <Avatar> I could do it
18:55:59 <Avatar> couldn't you?
18:56:37 <Brunius> Sure
18:56:45 <Avatar> the last time I played a rogue, he only died to a poison that would've killed anyone
18:57:00 <Avatar> except maybe a steven character, maybe
18:57:20 <Mekkis> it was fifteenth level
18:57:36 <Mekkis> you don't have excuses at that level
18:57:37 <Avatar> so rogues are okay if they're high level?
18:58:01 <Mekkis> any character properly played would have had antitoxin and potion of delay poison, if not outright immunity
18:58:21 <Mekkis> (hell, in 3.5e, neutralise poison IS a blanket answer)
19:00:49 <Avatar> was that game before your time
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19:01:25 <Brunius> What game was it
19:01:37 <Brunius> I think Ballig mentioned you played a rogue in WLD or something didn't he
19:02:00 <Mekkis> it was WLD, and I witnessed your rogue's death
19:02:21 <Mekkis> you were crowing about how your rogue would 'give a GM nightmares'
19:02:31 <Avatar> yeah it was WLD
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19:02:46 <Avatar> oh it gave Ballig nightmares alright
19:24:08 <Mekkis> yet you claimed later that he didn't do much damage
19:25:04 <Mekkis> the best rogue is one who casts wish multiple times per scenario
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19:27:36 <Avatar> yeah because ballig stole my second weapon
19:28:05 <Avatar> I was giving him too many nightmares so he waited until I made a mistake and took advantage :(
19:28:20 <Avatar> I dont' blame him, I'd be scared too
19:28:35 <Mekkis> ring of invisiblity only gives you sneak attack for the first attack
19:28:37 <Steven> there i made a rogue
19:28:52 <Steven> i hate it already.
19:28:59 <Avatar> you love it secretly
19:29:22 <Mekkis> and one trait I've noticed with you, Avatar, is that you blame the GM for anything bad that happens to your character...
19:29:35 <Mekkis> either the GM or the scenario writer
19:29:48 <Avatar> I didn't blame ballig when he stole my weapon
19:29:53 <Avatar> how do you explain that
19:30:18 <Steven> you were out of energy?
19:30:24 <Steven> needed a snickers.
19:30:24 <Mekkis> it sounds like you did.
19:30:26 <Avatar> I'm never out of energy
19:30:38 <Avatar> no it was quite ingenius
19:30:49 <Brunius> nice steven
19:31:06 <Steven> my characters janky
19:31:22 <Steven> so i can wreck avatars day.
19:31:41 <Avatar> I don't know what that means
19:32:25 <Steven> imma kill everything!
19:35:41 <Steven> i seriously wanna just punch this character in the face.
19:35:51 <Avatar> just play him right
19:35:56 <Avatar> you'll be laughing all the way to the bank
19:36:29 <Mekkis> You blamed me for Waldo, you blamed the writer for Roger, you blamed me for Mellon, you blamed Mort for Snake, you blamed the scenario writer for Snickers, you blamed Ashley for Cairo (justified), you blamed me for Snickers....
19:37:23 <Steven> god you're still going on about that, it was like 7 minutes ago
19:37:26 <Steven> lol
19:37:49 <Avatar> blaming ashley being justified just happens to be the only one you were involved in where you also lay blame on ashley
19:38:24 <Avatar> snake and roger were both killer encounters, that you know
19:38:38 <Mekkis> it also happens to be the only one where it's justified
19:38:40 <Brunius> roger was a bit of a shit kill
19:38:59 <Mekkis> Brunius, tanks?
19:39:03 <Avatar> waldo, mellon and snickers were all in encounters where you were deadset on killing those characters to extreme lengths
19:39:09 <Brunius> ja
19:39:40 <Avatar> mort's even justified because she was fairly new at GMing
19:47:37 <Steven> so.... can i change this guy into a slayer
19:47:58 <Steven> since a slayer is a rogue ranger.
19:48:07 <Avatar> yeah I guess so
19:48:08 <Avatar> ?ca
19:48:08 <diebot> Avatar, http://www.pfrpg.com.au/DevCA22b135.zip
19:48:16 <Steven> hazza!
20:26:35 <Brunius> Mekkis...
20:31:50 <Mekkis> Brunius?
20:32:11 <Mekkis> I wasn't deadset on killing either of them
20:32:24 <Mekkis> Waldo went into the middle of like, eight Bodaks
20:34:15 <Avatar> after he was forced into a mission by his deity or facing the wrath of a dragon
20:34:46 <Avatar> I didn't care if I died by the time I died
20:47:40 <Steven> wait... why were you fighting eight bodaks?
20:48:22 <Steven> those are the 1d4 negative level guys right?
20:50:24 <Mekkis> no. Fort save or die
20:56:09 <Steven> was this 3.5 or something.
20:56:31 <Brunius> Waldo was a PFS char wasn't he
20:56:45 <Steven> cause, i went and looked them up, in pfs they are the 1d4 negative levels, which if there is 8 of em is like 1d4 negative levels all day long
20:58:32 <CWheezy> LOL GAZE?
20:58:37 <CWheezy> negative level GAZE?
20:59:01 <CWheezy> get fucked boy
21:00:07 <Ulzef> thats why you get blind fight and attack with your eyes closed
21:00:40 <CWheezy> total concealment
21:01:13 <Ulzef> yeah but rerolls
21:01:17 <CWheezy> oh that is improved
21:01:23 <CWheezy> yeah still really bad
21:01:42 <CWheezy> also, they aren't invisible so you are still flat footed to them
21:01:48 <CWheezy> I forget if that was clarified
21:04:16 <Mekkis> this was 3.5e
21:04:37 <CWheezy> lol dr cold iron??
21:04:42 <Mekkis> Steven, the area the were in had the minor-negative-energy trait
21:04:42 <CWheezy> wtf undead has cold iron dr
21:05:08 <Mekkis> I figured that they'd take precautions like casting death ward
21:05:46 <CWheezy> hmmm
21:05:58 <CWheezy> looking at their attack, it seems like you wouldn't even need blind fight
21:06:04 <CWheezy> they went all in on their gaze
21:06:08 <CWheezy> 1d8+1
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21:10:05 <Mekkis> tyr!
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21:16:10 <Andros414> Hello.
21:17:37 <Steven> sup
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21:18:09 <Steven> whoa! and ripley...
21:18:14 <Andros414> Nothing much. Mostly sticking my head in.
21:18:17 <Steven> wtf... its like our busiest day ever in here
21:18:18 <Andros414> oh yeah....
21:18:22 Andros414 is now known as s_gmusic
21:18:29 * s_gmusic changes to his forum nick.
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21:18:51 <Steven> no clue who you are by forum name sorry.
21:18:56 <ripley> busy day okay kewl wats new?
21:19:15 <s_gmusic> it's no problem, I'm slowly getting busier on the forums, but still mostly lurk.
21:19:57 <Steven> lurk so good!
21:20:01 <Steven> i lurk in here a lot.
21:20:12 <Steven> i should be sleeping for thanksgiving tomorrow, but im not tired yet.
21:21:15 <s_gmusic> found your channel after your post about running the Confirmation, so I'm curious about a big thing: if someone plays a module or cert in IRC on a PbP, would they still get credit for their PnP character?
21:22:49 <Steven> which post about the confirmation?
21:22:56 <Steven> on kyle bairds facebook?
21:23:27 <Brunius> what's PnP?
21:23:28 <Avatar> the one I made
21:23:28 <s_gmusic> http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qeml?CA-IRC-Skype-508-The-Confirmation-Fri-29th
21:23:39 <Avatar> what's PnP
21:23:43 <s_gmusic> pen and paper.
21:23:46 <Steven> ah dat one
21:23:47 <Brunius> yeah
21:23:48 <s_gmusic> >.>
21:23:48 <Brunius> of course
21:23:50 <Avatar> yeah you still get credit
21:24:17 * Avatar sets ban on *!*@de1f172e.dodo.com.au
21:24:17 Avatar has kicked ripley from #d&d (when come back, bring pie!)
21:24:33 <Steven> why ya kick ripley... he didnt say dnd party fuckers yet
21:24:49 <Avatar> he had it coming
21:24:53 <Steven> heh
21:25:26 <s_gmusic> that's good to know. would I be able to print a cert for this to use at the table and use the same character online and paper, or would it be better to keep them separate?
21:25:50 <Steven> you should keep a copy of it on you whenever you are playing the character.
21:26:04 <Steven> the digital copy is as legal as a physical copy so long as its easy to present.
21:26:20 <Avatar> is this your first PFS character?
21:26:59 <s_gmusic> nope. including my playtest Stalker, I have 5 guys. my first is retired at 12, waiting to run Eyes of Ten with some friends.
21:27:14 <s_gmusic> I never really looked into playing online, though.
21:28:36 <Steven> its pretty fun
21:31:06 <Steven> avatar have i mentioned out much i hate rogues?
21:32:15 <Ulzef> man i was looking at shaman and was like boyah natures allie and summon monster then i was like fuck they changed to druid list soon
21:32:56 <Steven> yeah, which makes that ability dead in the water.
21:33:05 <Steven> so im thinkin they gonna change that.
21:33:15 <Ulzef> maybe
21:33:45 <Steven> maybe duration increased
21:33:49 <Ulzef> i might put the summon monster character on the back burner and play a hunter tomorrow
21:34:18 <Steven> i guess im going to play a slayer.
21:34:19 <Ulzef> oracle works for it but i really don't wanna oracle again
21:34:53 <Steven> i like how versatile oracles are
21:35:10 <Steven> layed my rage prophet today sir...
21:35:15 <Steven> no credit
21:35:21 <Steven> i got buffed to hell and back
21:35:26 <Steven> 42AC
21:35:33 <Steven> unarmored.
21:35:43 <Steven> doing 2d6+21 damage a hit.
21:35:48 <Steven> i even managed to crit once
21:36:11 <Steven> gm was like... well that creature is dead.
21:37:14 <s_gmusic> anyone else looked at Brawler? tried it in a homebrew, but feels like it's missing something
21:37:49 <Avatar> I haven't looked at the classes in enough detail to seriously consider rolling one u p
21:37:55 <Avatar> except the shaman, maybe
21:38:09 <Avatar> if they're going to make changes major enough like, say, changing the spell list
21:38:12 <Steven> Brawler The brawler is getting a few revisions and tweaks in the coming weeks. The capstone ability of the class is going to be replaced with something far more interesting than the current ability (although we are not quite ready to show that off just yet). The knockout ability will gain a number of uses per day, scaling with level. We are also going to chan
21:38:23 <Avatar> then it's sort of risky to be setting up a career for them
21:38:35 <Avatar> I know you can retrain, but you don't know what the new ability will be
21:38:40 <Steven> change up the brawlers weapon list, giving it all simple weapons, plus any weapon on the "close" weapon group from the fighter. Of course, you will be able to use all those weapons with the brawler's flurry ability.
21:39:07 <Avatar> yeah what does close mean exactly
21:39:11 <Avatar> opposite of reach?
21:39:25 <s_gmusic> things like Cestus and brass knuckles.
21:39:28 <s_gmusic> or gauntlets.
21:40:02 <Steven> it means the fighter weapons group
21:41:15 <Steven> imo, they should kick that and give it the monk group
21:41:37 <Steven> but i suppose then it starts looking too much like the unarmed fighter archetype
21:46:14 <s_gmusic> Close weapons makes sense. Would be too much to ask to get your unarmed strike damage die while using them, unless they gave it to all monks.
21:46:41 <CWheezy> they are already better than unarmed strike, enchanting them is half price!
21:49:10 <s_gmusic> this is true. one thing of two is keeping me from rolling a monk, and that's the cost of having to use an Amulet of Mighty Fists for weapon enchantment. :/
21:50:06 <Steven> its not horrible really since if you go pure monk your fists start counting as other things
21:50:21 <Steven> so you just get abilities on the amulet
21:50:41 <Steven> like holy and what not
21:50:56 <Steven> actually saw a player that had Vicious and Holy
21:51:22 <Steven> he put out a lot of damage.
21:51:46 <Steven> but it was high level, so everything puts out a lot of damage
21:54:12 <s_gmusic> that's true. the other thing slowing me down is planning the build, but I'll have something together eventually.
21:56:33 <CWheezy> enhancements bonuses are just really good
21:56:41 <CWheezy> that plus to hit and damage is excellent
22:00:01 <Steven> i cant decide if i want claws on this character or a weapon
22:01:45 <s_gmusic> what is it?
22:02:05 <Steven> a shitty rogue
22:03:46 <CWheezy> you could save the rogue by multiclassing into a good class
22:03:50 <CWheezy> like Adept
22:03:54 <s_gmusic> heh
22:03:54 <CWheezy> or maybe Warrior
22:04:31 <Steven> yeah but avatar says i have to play rogue
22:07:12 <Steven> i think im going to go with claws so i dont have to pay a feat tax to go two weapon
22:15:22 <Steven> sadly cant get power attack
22:18:47 <s_gmusic> hm... 6:20am. time to sleep.
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23:13:16 <Steven> decided to watch the princess bride
23:26:24 <Brunius> Sword Art Online
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