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00:26:24 <Brunius> hey
00:26:43 <Brunius> yeah 1:30am here probably not the best time to ask us about stuff, might get interest
00:26:57 <Brunius> Try in 7-9 hours time?
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10:09:03 <Brunius> Glarin, you around?
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11:07:59 <Steven> so harp of storms is begging to be broken.
11:08:25 <Brunius> u wot m8
11:10:45 <Steven> figure i could get a perform skill of around 30-40 easily
11:17:13 <Steven> so brun when ya gonna run kingmaker for us?
11:17:23 <Brunius> after wotw finishes
11:17:41 <Steven> awww thats no fun
11:18:06 <Steven> I have this Merfolk monk i really wanna try out.
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13:15:29 <Mekkis> !item harp of storms
13:15:32 <diebot> Mekkis, HARP OF STORMS [moderate evocation] CL:7 none 22000gp, 2lb
13:15:33 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/items/harp_of_storms.html
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14:09:54 <Ulzef-phone> Heya People
14:10:02 <Brunius> moin moin
14:10:53 <Steven> sup]
14:11:22 <Ulzef-phone> hey steven were is wintercon
14:11:41 <Ulzef-phone> have a newbie i am trying to send used to play wow with em
14:12:16 <Ulzef-phone> have played a little pathfinder but never pfs
14:13:53 <Steven> iunno
14:14:36 <Ulzef-phone> i thought you were helping organize
14:14:49 <Steven> not wintercon no
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14:14:52 <Ulzef-phone> she is near tacoma bit away from seattle
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14:15:00 <Brunius> wrong button
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14:15:48 <Ulzefphone> Sorry Irc Crashed
14:16:07 <Steven> wintercon is a specific event elsewhere in the nation.
14:16:24 <Ulzefphone> She is in port orchard so a bit away from Seattle
14:16:25 <Steven> if she is in seattle area she should get a hold of one of the many VOs in the area.
14:16:51 <Ulzefphone> yeah told her that
14:17:08 <Ulzefphone> also pointed her towards here
14:17:26 <Ulzefphone> i suck at introducing people
14:17:30 <Ulzefphone> to pfs
14:17:56 <Ulzefphone> u had a wierd joining so have trouble explaining it to people
14:18:05 <Ulzefphone> u*
14:18:10 <Ulzefphone> i*
14:18:32 <Ulzefphone> man i hare phone sometimes
14:18:59 <Brunius> yes
14:19:41 <Ulzefphone> will need to talk to you about it at some point in the future then
14:24:51 <Steven> Washington—Ballard Garrett Mercier Email Venture-Lieutenant Washington—Bellingham Doug Benson Email Venture-Lieutenant Washington—Everett Stacey Buxton Email Washington—Seattle Kyle Elliott Email Ven
14:25:18 <Steven> dunno which one of those is closer, i dont make it over to seattle but once or twice a year and im always lost
14:28:01 <Ulzefphone> yeah she is about a hour out of seattle so was looking for something closer
14:28:36 <Steven> well i'd have her email kyle elliot, he will know far better than I whats going on over there.
14:28:37 <Ulzefphone> i was like i could get you a game most places in aus but know no one in us cept steven
14:29:08 <Ulzefphone> sweet will
14:29:08 <Ulzefphone> do
14:29:34 <Steven> meanwhile I'm going to go back to prepping eyes
14:30:42 <Ulzefphone> nice
14:30:57 <Ulzefphone> so need to do that at some point
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15:50:24 <Steven> so whats the plan?
16:11:52 <Avatar> don't split the party
16:12:16 <Steven> good plan
16:12:55 <Steven> i wanna play skull and shackles so bad.
16:13:06 <Steven> I need to find a group to play that'
16:15:09 <Avatar> I'd consider running it
16:15:26 <Steven> alright... whatcha want?
16:15:36 * Steven poker face.
16:15:47 <Avatar> players and a good schedule
16:16:09 * Steven signs up as a player.
16:16:12 <Brunius> Yarr harr fiddle dee dee
16:16:12 * Steven clears schedule
16:16:15 <Avatar> there's always one
16:16:17 <Brunius> Do what you want 'cos a pirate is free
16:16:23 <Brunius> Being a pirate is alright by me
16:16:28 <Avatar> players, plural
16:16:48 <Brunius> Can I play a swashbuckler
16:16:57 <Avatar> play whatever you like
16:17:09 <Brunius> Can I play a book learned scholar from Absalom
16:17:15 * Steven puts his hand up for a brunius high fie.
16:17:25 <Steven> *five
16:17:29 <Brunius> what
16:17:30 <Brunius> why
16:17:36 <Avatar> serious chraacters only
16:17:40 <Steven> pirates.
16:17:57 * Brunius high fives steven
16:18:09 <Brunius> Yeah a serious book learned scholar from Absalom
16:18:18 <Brunius> He got kidnapped and pressed into the crew
16:18:29 <Avatar> no
16:18:32 <Brunius> and his motivation for staying with them is to try and find his way back to Absalom
16:18:45 <Avatar> wait, is he a commoner or a wizard
16:18:52 <Brunius> Uhhhhhhhhhhhh
16:18:57 <Brunius> A skill monkey wizard
16:19:02 <Brunius> Yeah
16:19:04 <Brunius> Casters!
16:19:07 <Avatar> that's fine
16:19:20 * Steven downloads skull and shackles players guide.
16:19:25 <Avatar> I'd recommend not signing up unless you're sure you want to commit
16:19:30 <Brunius> What timeslot
16:19:34 <Brunius> And how long will the campaign run?
16:19:39 <Avatar> I don't know, whatever we can work out
16:19:45 <Avatar> I haven't seen the book, so I have no idea
16:20:21 <Avatar> probably want to run a session every 2-3 weeks
16:20:45 <Avatar> more if we run short sessions and have an exceptionally good time
16:21:04 <Steven> we will have an awesome time.
16:21:38 <Avatar> need players first
16:22:12 <Steven> i will create a character right now
16:22:18 <Steven> i'm excited.
16:22:22 <Avatar> synthesists are banned
16:22:37 <Steven> i dont play that shit.
16:22:48 <Avatar> munchkins are banned
16:22:56 <Brunius> Woah woah woah
16:23:19 <Steven> i play that shit!
16:23:25 <CWheezy> I'd play skull and shackles
16:23:28 <Avatar> ya
16:23:35 <CWheezy> you have to show what is a munchkin
16:23:37 <CWheezy> though
16:23:37 <Steven> its cool though, i'm making a normal character.
16:23:47 <Brunius> Man I have no idea how to make a wizard
16:23:51 <CWheezy> you can't say" no munchkins" because that isn't something I know
16:23:52 <Brunius> Avatar, what stat gen method?
16:23:54 <Avatar> well draw up what you want and I'll tell you if it goes over the line
16:24:06 <Avatar> PFS rules
16:24:12 <CWheezy> a two handed fighter with fighter feats who does huge DPR
16:24:21 <Brunius> is that 20 point buy?
16:24:23 <Brunius> or 25?
16:24:28 <CWheezy> a gunslinger who wants to become the Hurricane King
16:24:44 <Avatar> you've played PFS for 3 years and don't know if it's a 20 or 25 point buy ?
16:24:55 <Brunius> You know when I last created a character?
16:25:02 <Brunius> Like a year and a half ago
16:25:04 <Avatar> how many have you created
16:25:09 <Brunius> Like...seven?
16:25:17 <Steven> 20+ registered characters here!
16:26:27 <Avatar> http://paizo.com/products/btpy8rwc?Pathfinder-Adventure-Path-Skull-Shackles-Players-Guide
16:26:36 <Steven> avatar do you wish to impliment a min/max ability score?
16:26:58 <Avatar> you can min max all you like
16:27:00 <Steven> like nothing below an 8 nothing above an 18
16:27:13 <Avatar> just don't break the damn game please
16:27:22 <Avatar> the commonsense rule applies
16:27:51 <Steven> australian common sense or american common sense?
16:28:09 <Avatar> australian
16:28:12 <Brunius> The one that doesn't drive your GM crazy
16:28:13 <Steven> cause you guys do live on an island with the most poisonous species on the planet... i wouldnt do that shit.
16:28:24 <Avatar> we did vote in tony abbott
16:28:31 <Brunius> Why the fuck did we do that
16:28:35 <Brunius> fo srs
16:28:43 <Avatar> I know very few people who did
16:28:43 <Steven> everyone makes mistakes.
16:29:27 <Steven> so avatar.... can i be an undine?
16:30:11 <Steven> swim speed ftw!
16:30:21 <Avatar> do yu have an undine boon
16:30:30 <Steven> i do
16:30:35 <Avatar> then sure
16:32:50 <Steven> but i have a grippli, ifrit, oread, suli, sylph, undine, vishkanya, fetchling, waynang, dhampir, aasimar, and tiefling boons. Felt it best to ask first.
16:33:28 <Brunius> wait is this pfs or a campaign
16:33:49 <Steven> skull and shackles is an adventure path.
16:34:03 <Brunius> yeah I thought it was
16:34:04 <Steven> one that is sanctioned by PFS.
16:41:18 <Avatar> I don't know how much difference there is
16:42:50 <Steven> well the quality is pretty awesome from what i've been told.
16:45:11 <Mekkis> can I play a druid?
16:45:17 <Avatar> no
16:45:23 <Mekkis> :(
16:45:32 <Avatar> anyone else can
16:45:41 <Steven> trololololololololololoooooool
16:45:51 <Mekkis> cleric?
16:45:59 <Avatar> maybe
16:46:03 <Avatar> draw up your character and I'll have a look
16:46:12 <Steven> so, brun is goin wizard, cwheez what you leaning towards?
16:46:18 <Steven> dont want to double up if i can help it.
16:46:19 <Mekkis> can I roll my stats?
16:46:53 <Avatar> no, PFS rules
16:47:06 <Brunius> Does that include feat limits and such?
16:47:12 <Brunius> eg item crafting feats?
16:47:12 <Avatar> ideally I'd like to run it as a sanctioned module
16:47:24 <Avatar> or sanctioned AP or whatever it's called
16:47:30 <Mekkis> what does that even mean?
16:47:38 <Brunius> To the guide!
16:47:39 <Steven> well.... you can run it as a campaign and as we clear specific portions of the AP you can hand us sheets.
16:47:40 <Avatar> it means you'd get a chronicle at the end of it
16:47:54 <Steven> that we can then apply to characters.
16:49:04 <Brunius> Alternatively, if you are participating in a Pathfinder
16:49:04 <Brunius> Adventure Path with an ongoing group undertaking the
16:49:04 <Brunius> entire, six-book campaign, you may receive credit for
16:49:04 <Brunius> playing the sanctioned portions of the adventure as if you
16:49:04 <Brunius> had played a pregenerated character. In this case, GMs
16:49:04 <Brunius> running the Adventure Path are not bound to the rules
16:49:06 <Brunius> of the Pathfinder Society Organized Play campaign (such
16:49:08 <Brunius> as 20 point buy, unavailability of hero points, etc...) when
16:49:10 <Brunius> running the campaign or the sanctioned portion of the
16:49:12 <Brunius> adventure.
16:49:24 <Brunius> p29 PFS guide
16:49:31 <Brunius> Are you looking at doing that?
16:49:45 <Avatar> yeah
16:50:08 <Avatar> how does that work that those characters aren't bound to the rules of a 20 point buy
16:50:18 <Avatar> surely that would come up as an issue in regular play
16:50:27 <Mekkis> nope
16:50:30 <Brunius> It's running it as a completely seperate campaign, I believe
16:50:44 <Steven> alright so you run the Adventure path however you want, with whatever rules you want.
16:51:24 <Steven> and when we clear the portion of the adventure path that grants a chronicle sheet you report it to the site and we apply credit to a character like we had played a pregen through that portion.
16:51:29 <Mekkis> and you still hand out chronicle sheets
16:51:57 <Steven> so like if you dont want summoners, gunslingers, or bards to play, but want to give people hero points and a 25 point buy.
16:52:18 <Steven> you can run the adventure path like that, and give people pfs credit to apply to characters.
16:53:18 <Avatar> oh right
16:53:28 <Avatar> well in that case, you can either take a 20 point buy or roll for stats
16:53:36 <Mekkis> cool
16:53:44 <Mekkis> 4d6 drop 1?
16:53:44 <Avatar> roll up to twice, take the last set of rolls
16:54:06 <Avatar> what did I say for LSK, I can't remember
16:54:13 <Mekkis> that was 4d6 drop 1
16:54:40 <Steven> im so not going to roll for my stats... i always end up fucking myself lol.
16:54:41 <Avatar> that was a 28 point buy
16:54:48 <Mekkis> that was 3.5e too
16:54:58 <Avatar> oh yeah
16:55:02 <Avatar> is 20 point buy the equivalent
16:55:08 <Mekkis> more or less
16:55:11 <Mekkis> I'll check
16:55:16 <Steven> !throw 4d6
16:55:17 <diebot> Steven, 4d6: [4d6=2,4,6,2] 14
16:55:35 <Mekkis> !vchargen
16:55:36 <diebot> Mekkis, 11(6,2,3,1), 15(5,6,3,4), 12(4,4,2,4), 11(1,2,6,3), 7(1,1,4,2), 13(4,3,6,3)
16:55:39 <Mekkis> like that?
16:55:40 <Steven> holy shit! i got average!
16:55:46 <Avatar> yeah
16:55:54 <Brunius> !vchargen
16:55:54 <diebot> Brunius, 15(5,4,6,1), 12(6,2,3,3), 11(1,6,3,2), 10(1,2,5,3), 18(6,4,6,6), 14(5,5,1,4)
16:56:14 <Steven> !vchargen
16:56:14 <diebot> Steven, 16(5,5,6,1), 15(1,3,6,6), 14(1,6,4,4), 15(6,4,5,1), 7(1,2,3,2), 11(3,2,1,6)
16:56:34 <Steven> wow that wasnt actually terrible.
16:56:37 <Avatar> to be clear, if you roll a second time, you can't take your first set of rolls
16:56:39 <Steven> thats a pretty cool feature mekkis.
16:57:01 <Mekkis> thanks
16:58:20 <Steven> so anyways...
16:58:38 <Steven> evil characters avatar?
16:59:04 <Avatar> I don't care about alignment, roleplay matters more
16:59:21 <Avatar> don't be stupid about it, commonsense applies
16:59:39 <Steven> doesnt matter to me, im goin XN probably
16:59:50 <Steven> but needs to be asked before we start.
17:01:16 <Mekkis> yeah
17:01:29 <Mekkis> 28 point buy in 3.5 is roughly equivalent to 20 point buy in PF
17:03:03 <Steven> so brun is going wizard.
17:03:13 <Steven> no clue what cwheezy is doin
17:03:26 <Steven> mekkis whatcha thinkin?
17:03:36 <Mekkis> druid
17:03:41 <Mekkis> merchant
17:03:45 <Avatar> http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewcamp.php5?v=42
17:03:49 <Mekkis> honest
17:04:27 <Avatar> I wasn't joking, if you create something that I think is overpowered, you don't get to do it
17:04:46 <Mekkis> well
17:04:56 <Mekkis> do you think all druids are overpowered?
17:05:26 <Mekkis> would it make you more secure if I told you I was taking a domain rather than a companion?
17:05:35 <Avatar> I think you using a druid is overpowered
17:05:42 <Steven> heh
17:05:50 <Avatar> I don't know, draw it up and let me take a look
17:06:06 <Avatar> saying I don't allow x y and z doesn't stop you from creating an overpower
17:08:17 <Mekkis> you know my idea of an honest merchant...
17:08:23 <Mekkis> Brunius...
17:08:29 <Brunius> Yeah
17:09:13 <Brunius> So Avatar, the verdict was you're allowing us to break from PFS rules?
17:09:26 <Mekkis> well
17:09:37 <Mekkis> I'll roll stats and start on a character than
17:09:39 <Steven> looks like after racials, 13/9/14/11/18/15
17:09:47 <Mekkis> !vchargen
17:09:48 <diebot> Mekkis, 17(2,6,5,6), 18(6,6,6,1), 14(4,6,4,3), 7(1,2,1,4), 17(5,4,6,6), 9(1,4,3,2)
17:10:06 <Mekkis> seems decent
17:10:18 <Mekkis> 7 ib con, play an elf
17:10:19 <Avatar> you can break the abilities rule
17:10:24 <Mekkis> :)
17:10:27 <Brunius> I'm gonna go grab my pile of books and spend a week poring over the options
17:10:29 <Avatar> Steven: I'll have to look over undine, sorry
17:11:09 <Steven> -2 str 2wis 2 dex, best part about them is the swim speed.
17:11:41 <Steven> which is why i was choosing them.
17:14:00 <Avatar> I tend to like core races only
17:14:30 <Avatar> what class were you thinking
17:14:35 <Steven> cleric.
17:15:00 <Steven> need some heals up in this beast.
17:15:09 <Brunius> I should play something not a human
17:15:13 <Brunius> Humans are overpowered
17:15:25 <Avatar> yeah no undine
17:15:45 <Steven> awwww no swim speed.
17:16:07 <Avatar> maybe if this weren't a premade campaign about pirates
17:17:47 <Steven> my plan of destroying a rudder has been foiled.
17:20:12 <Mekkis> so assuming gillman is out too
17:22:50 <Avatar> core races only
17:23:23 <Brunius> Bestiary is core, isn't it
17:23:39 <Brunius> :P
17:23:41 <Mekkis> gnome or asimaar then
17:24:28 <Avatar> aasimar isn't core
17:29:46 <Brunius> Is there a god of knowledge?
17:30:02 <Avatar> there's a knowledge domain and deities that like it
17:31:11 <Steven> Asmodeus, nethys
17:31:34 <Brunius> Yeah I thought Nethys might be it
17:32:26 <Brunius> Avatar: Max HP at first level?
17:32:39 <Steven> theres a few other ones that are big on knowledge
17:32:43 <Steven> Lissala
17:33:15 <Avatar> PFS rules on hp
17:37:34 <Brunius> Avatar, Mekkis, how do bonded objects work
17:38:50 <Brunius> Avatar: Item creation feats. I don't believe you gave an answer, are they allowed or not?
17:38:57 <Avatar> you recall a spell from your book into an empty spell slot, I think
17:39:26 <Avatar> item creation is probably fine
17:41:04 <Brunius> Oh hey, racial bonuses
17:41:17 <Brunius> Man what do I pump
17:46:28 <Brunius> Avatar: Money?
17:46:34 <Brunius> As PFS?
17:48:03 <Avatar> I don't even know what level it is
17:49:23 <Brunius> http://paizo.com/products/btpy8rcc?Pathfinder-Adventure-Path-55-The-Wormwood-Mutiny says first, if you're running it from there
17:50:51 <Steven> yeah we should be starting out at first level.
17:50:59 <Mekkis> Brunius, bonded item: you can cast any spell you could theoretically cast that you know, 1/day
17:51:13 <Brunius> what about the item itself?
17:51:27 <Mekkis> you can enchant it
17:51:28 <Brunius> it says you can select a wand, but then says it's masterwork quality
17:51:38 <Brunius> can I get a masterwork wooden stick?
17:51:39 <Mekkis> as though you had the requesite feat
17:51:40 <Mekkis> yeah
17:51:45 <Brunius> sweet
17:52:07 <Avatar> I think masterwork refers more to if you take a bonded weapon
17:53:30 <Avatar> apparently this whole AP takes about 2 years to run
17:53:35 <Avatar> I assume that's all 6 modules
17:53:55 <Mekkis> I thought CWheezy wanted to speedrun it
17:54:14 <Avatar> what are you on about
17:54:19 <Steven> but avatar... we shall have a glorious time doing it!
17:54:32 <Avatar> you might, I don't think I'll be spending 2 years GMing it
17:54:45 <Avatar> doing only 1 book isn't out of the question at all
17:56:22 <Steven> we could rotate GMs per book as well.
17:58:10 <Steven> so one person doesnt get stuck with all the GM duty.
17:58:28 <Avatar> I likely wouldn't play
17:59:10 <Steven> my character is almost ready.
18:02:20 <Steven> ugh.... i might switch it now...
18:04:38 <Steven> nope keepin this how it is
18:05:07 <Steven> decided not to go cleric.
18:12:27 <Avatar> just sent a follow up to mike + john about waking rune
18:12:38 <Avatar> initial email was sent on 4/11 and I haven't heard a word
18:14:33 <Avatar> gunslingers and witches are allowed, I'm inclined to say no to summoner
18:23:19 <Mekkis> alchemist?
18:30:45 <Avatar> yeah anything except summoner
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18:41:29 <CWheezy> Am I allowed to play
18:42:57 <Steven> so far we are at 3 players... I didnt hear him say you couldnt play.
18:57:17 <Steven> if you could play what would you play?
18:58:32 <Steven> .
18:58:33 <Steven> 3
18:58:34 <Steven> .36636
19:04:50 <CWheezy> hmmm
19:04:55 <CWheezy> probably a gunslinger
19:19:32 <Glarin> hey there
19:19:51 <Steven> sup glarin
19:20:09 <Glarin> not much just looking at getting into this whole pathfinder society stuff
19:23:55 <Steven> well most of us here play PFS
19:24:15 <Glarin> good thing i came here then :)
19:24:19 <Steven> always glad to answer questions if you have any.
19:24:42 <Glarin> how different is it to pathfinder rpg?
19:24:51 <CWheezy> mostly the same
19:25:25 <Glarin> just not RL and with more scenarios rather than campaigns
19:25:41 <Steven> pretty much yes.
19:26:56 <Glarin> thats pretty cool. I just got into a campaign in RL but weekly seems to be forever away so was looking for the same idea to fill in the week aswell as "test" out new character types
19:27:44 <Steven> gotta love that excitement.
19:27:59 <Steven> hey cwheezy... totes a healer here.
19:29:09 <CWheezy> as a gunslinger, I don't really care about healing
19:29:30 <CWheezy> things I care about: Flyers, things that grab me, incorporeal, windy conditions
19:29:38 <CWheezy> Oh and things with dr
19:29:49 <Glarin> :)
19:30:06 <CWheezy> and since I like playing humans, darkvision sucks
19:30:20 <Glarin> catfolk ninja :)
19:30:48 <Glarin> lowlight vision and cats luck work fairly well
19:31:49 <CWheezy> lowlight still gets owned if it is too dark
19:32:10 <Mekkis> just say no to catfolk
19:32:27 <Steven> brb, takin dogs out.
19:32:49 <Glarin> fair call
19:39:12 <Avatar> skull and shackles is 1st-4th level
19:44:06 <Glarin> whats a good race for a bard?
19:44:59 <Avatar> human
19:50:36 <CWheezy> dwarf
19:51:21 <CWheezy> I lied, not dwarf
19:51:36 <CWheezy> you could though if you wanted, it wouldn't be bad if you were combat focused
19:52:14 <Glarin> lol well was looking toward a dirge bard so summing the dead through dance seemed quite intriging
19:53:01 <CWheezy> you could name him jikel mackson
19:53:02 <Steven> so avatar when you wanna start playing skull and shack?
19:53:06 <Avatar> a cursory glance at skull and shackles makes it look incredibly difficult to run
19:53:49 <Steven> I've reread the players guide, i think if everyone reads that and gets familiar with it, will be a lot easier for you.
19:54:05 <CWheezy> hmmm?
19:54:08 <Glarin> lol sounds quite interesting...or even a pistolero named voro
19:54:10 <CWheezy> I have played the first 26 days
19:54:22 <CWheezy> but that's all
19:54:23 <CWheezy> as a warning
19:54:59 <CWheezy> I think it isn't very hard to run, at least the first book
19:55:30 <CWheezy> also, I hope you noted that the deadliest poison ever created is in this first book
19:55:45 <Steven> okay avatar, I've made like 3 characters. lol
20:02:08 <Avatar> oh sweet, let's play with the massive damage/battle scar rules!
20:02:53 <Avatar> Steven: are they on the site
20:02:55 <Steven> do we have to cause that doesnt sound like much fun.
20:03:01 <Steven> no, i havent uploaded them yet.
20:03:03 <CWheezy> yeah that sounds like the worst possible
20:03:16 <Avatar> don't you want to lose an eye
20:03:26 <Avatar> you could have an eye patch for more than just looking cool
20:03:29 <CWheezy> massive damage and battle scars only hurts pcs
20:03:41 <CWheezy> npcs don't give a shit, they die anyway
20:03:48 <Steven> hey look you lost a had barbarian... no more 2 handed weapons.
20:03:51 <Avatar> spoil the fun
20:03:51 <CWheezy> does that make sense
20:04:30 <Avatar> you could get a hook hand
20:04:33 <CWheezy> I'd play with the fumble deck and crit deck if they were houseruled
20:04:53 <CWheezy> max one fumble per round, have to confirm fumble
20:10:15 <Avatar> steven why did you want to do this AP
20:11:55 <Steven> cause i like pirates.
20:12:03 <Steven> my third character ever was a pirate.
20:12:15 <Steven> first character to 12
20:12:25 <Steven> favorite character ever.
20:12:37 <Mekkis> my first character was a dex-based monk
20:12:54 <CWheezy> wait, if we are using pfs rules, are evil characters banned
20:13:05 <Avatar> not pfs rules anymore
20:13:11 <CWheezy> what are your rules
20:13:17 <CWheezy> just 20 pb ask
20:13:18 <Steven> my first character ever was a Cloistered Cleric of Nethys.
20:13:21 <CWheezy> can I be a wear guy
20:13:23 <Avatar> any alignment
20:13:24 <CWheezy> wear
20:13:25 <Avatar> http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewcamp.php5?v=42
20:13:31 <CWheezy> wareboar?
20:13:35 <CWheezy> wearboar
20:13:36 <Avatar> core races
20:13:41 <Mekkis> so no asiaar? :(
20:13:58 <CWheezy> thank god no ASSimar
20:14:17 <CWheezy> why don't I play an asimar for everything
20:14:35 <CWheezy> hell yes I am rolling stats
20:14:41 <Mekkis> you mean an aasimar
20:14:52 <Mekkis> use !vchargen
20:14:52 <Steven> no i think he was trying to be funny.
20:15:06 <Avatar> just remember the rules on rolling
20:15:08 <CWheezy> can my character be an army
20:15:11 <Avatar> once you roll there's no going back
20:15:22 <Mekkis> I'm happy with my roll
20:15:24 <CWheezy> a diminutive army
20:15:24 <Avatar> you can be an army of skin cells
20:15:25 <CWheezy> is one person
20:15:28 <Avatar> that make up a person
20:15:37 <Steven> pretty happy with my roll as well
20:15:44 <CWheezy> I think I will make an army of a high levle wizard
20:15:44 <Brunius> Yeah you saw my roll above Avatar, right?
20:15:47 <Steven> 16, 15, 15, 14, 11, 7
20:15:54 <Avatar> yeah
20:15:55 <CWheezy> wow those are sick
20:16:05 <Avatar> the question is
20:16:07 <Avatar> can you be sicker ?
20:16:14 <CWheezy> !vchargen
20:16:15 <diebot> CWheezy, 8(1,1,3,4), 16(2,6,6,4), 12(3,1,5,4), 6(3,1,2,1), 12(2,4,4,4), 11(6,3,2,2)
20:16:20 <Mekkis> yes, but what are the odds
20:16:21 <CWheezy> lol trash
20:16:23 <Steven> wheezy cant!
20:16:26 <Avatar> or are they ?
20:16:27 <CWheezy> wow those are bad
20:16:31 <Avatar> you can take those OR
20:16:38 <Avatar> you can reroll, but if you reroll, those stats are gone forever
20:16:41 <CWheezy> yeah obviously I have to reroll
20:16:41 <Avatar> and you have to take the second set
20:16:55 <Avatar> will it be better
20:16:57 <Avatar> will it be worse
20:16:59 <Steven> dont worry wheezy
20:16:59 <Avatar> only the dice know!
20:17:03 <Steven> if you do really horrible
20:17:07 <Steven> you can just be the crafter
20:17:10 <Steven> lol
20:17:37 <Mekkis> hmm
20:17:41 <Mekkis> half-elf or gnome
20:17:45 <Mekkis> where's it set?
20:17:48 <Brunius> half elf
20:17:48 <CWheezy> that is the equivilent of a 9 point buy
20:17:50 <CWheezy> what I got
20:17:50 <Mekkis> river kingdoms?
20:17:57 <Brunius> The big tornado thing in the SW
20:17:59 <Avatar> the risk of rolling
20:18:00 <CWheezy> it is set in the shackles
20:18:03 <Steven> skull and shackles is set in the shackles
20:18:03 <Brunius> I can never remember the name
20:18:04 <Mekkis> oh
20:18:07 <CWheezy> !vchargen
20:18:07 <diebot> CWheezy, 10(3,4,3,1), 13(2,2,6,5), 8(2,2,2,4), 9(1,6,2,1), 12(5,3,4,3), 16(5,4,5,6)
20:18:12 <Mekkis> eye of whatever
20:18:14 <CWheezy> wow that is horrible
20:18:18 <Brunius> yeah
20:18:21 <CWheezy> oh well
20:18:55 <Mekkis> so I should make a prospective Red Mantis Assassin
20:19:13 <Steven> yikes thats like a 12 point buy?
20:19:18 <CWheezy> yeah
20:19:20 <Avatar> rolled better
20:19:23 <Avatar> I call that a win
20:19:29 <Avatar> there's a 16 there
20:19:32 <CWheezy> nah it is trash
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20:19:55 <Avatar> lowest was an 8, you had a 6 last time
20:20:21 <Steven> thats like 14 points below mine, and how many below mekkis.
20:20:59 <Steven> didnt mekkis score in the 40s?
20:21:04 <Avatar> Mekkis: Garund
20:21:23 <CWheezy> yes avatar, I can read my stats, doesn't make them less trash
20:21:27 <Brunius> 18,15,14,12,11,10
20:21:33 <CWheezy> lol
20:21:55 <Steven> yeah mekkis got an 18, 17, 17, 14, 9, 7
20:21:59 <Mekkis> wow, Wild Caller looks good
20:22:35 <Avatar> mekkis did you cheat
20:22:39 <Mekkis> no
20:22:47 <Steven> avatar called no summoners.
20:22:51 <Avatar> I won't abide cheating
20:22:56 <Mekkis> I know, Avatar
20:25:12 <Avatar> I think I was looking at council of thieves earlier on
20:26:39 <CWheezy> oh are drawbacks allowed
20:26:47 <Avatar> what are drawbacks
20:26:50 <CWheezy> sorry "drawbacks"
20:26:51 <Avatar> are they like battlescars
20:27:01 <CWheezy> no you take a drawback for an extra trait
20:27:25 <Avatar> you know I really think 2 traits is a bit shit
20:27:33 <Avatar> but I also know how abusable quirks are
20:27:39 <Avatar> I'll consider it case-by-case
20:27:46 <CWheezy> the power level of traits is pretty hilarious
20:27:55 <CWheezy> some are better than any feat
20:27:57 <CWheezy> which is funny
20:28:11 <CWheezy> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/traits/drawbacks
20:29:04 <Avatar> a drawback like dependency
20:29:08 <Mekkis> You were rewarded as a child for flaunting your victory over others as completely as possible, and you discovered you enjoyed the feeling of rubbing your foes' faces in the dirt.
20:29:08 <Mekkis> Effect: Whenever you are engaged in combat and there are dying or helpless foes within 30 feet, you take a –2 penalty on attack rolls against foes who are neither dying nor helpless.
20:29:16 <Avatar> I wouldn't feel inclined to let you take that in favour of taking reactionary
20:30:35 <CWheezy> I took cruelty
20:30:43 <CWheezy> it is a "drawback"
20:31:41 <Steven> ...
20:31:48 <Steven> wanna see me get told no guys?
20:32:02 <CWheezy> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/traits/drawbacks/power-hungry
20:32:05 <Brunius> sure
20:32:07 <Steven> hey avatar can i take the Black powder Inquisition?
20:32:07 <CWheezy> lol look at this "drawback"
20:32:42 <CWheezy> why would you want to
20:33:56 <Steven> why would i want to take black powder inquisition? because it gives me the ability to use a gun?
20:34:16 <CWheezy> you still wouldn't have a gun
20:34:36 <Steven> nope, just gotta kill that gunslinger and take theirs....
20:34:39 <CWheezy> also no it doesn't
20:34:41 <Avatar> I would promise wealth and power all the time
20:34:56 <CWheezy> you can use a gun no matter what
20:35:03 <Mekkis> you always do, Avatar
20:35:29 <CWheezy> yeah I am sure the opponent wizard or vampire will stop to promise things to me
20:35:48 <Mekkis> but of course
20:35:50 <CWheezy> anyway, that comes up very rarely, but reactionary comes up every fight, lol
20:36:02 <Avatar> free action !
20:36:29 <CWheezy> well I mean, if you were a metagaming jerk you would
20:36:32 <Avatar> "You there! Stop fighting me! I promise you gold and riches!"
20:36:52 <CWheezy> since you would literally be doing it JUST because I had that trait
20:37:01 <Avatar> you're trying to take a "drawback" I absolutely would be a metagaming jerk
20:37:01 <CWheezy> I will be expecting that action a Lot now btw
20:37:21 <Avatar> what trait do you want for it
20:37:21 <Mekkis> "Eternal life, power beyond your wildest dreams.... And a will save vs my dominate effect."
20:37:29 <Mekkis> pretty standard vampire tactic
20:37:34 <CWheezy> lol you get mad at people making strong characters and then act like that
20:37:45 <Avatar> what trait do you want
20:37:54 <CWheezy> oh I am not taking that one
20:37:58 <Avatar> I'm sure you'll take a +1 to appraise trait
20:37:58 <Mekkis> Avatar never mentioned making strong characters
20:38:16 <CWheezy> that has been his posting history on paizo so yes he has
20:38:23 <CWheezy> anyway I took adopted and warrior of old
20:38:41 <Mekkis> what race?
20:38:44 <Avatar> I have issue with breaking the game, if that's what your definition of "strong characters" fits, then yes I have problems with it
20:38:47 <CWheezy> human
20:38:58 <CWheezy> metagaming breaks the game, yet you don't have an issue with that
20:39:09 <Mekkis> why not adopted an excitable?
20:39:18 <Avatar> not if you want to take -2 to those compulsion effects to gain a +2 to initative
20:39:29 <Avatar> and not expect to be promised riches beyond your wildest dreams
20:39:36 <CWheezy> I am fine if it makes sense
20:39:42 <CWheezy> that is the point
20:39:43 <Mekkis> if I were you, I'd just disallow drawbacks
20:39:45 <Avatar> all the riches in the cosmos
20:40:11 <Avatar> if you want to play it safe, you can choose not to take one
20:40:21 <CWheezy> well it wont matter will it
20:40:32 <CWheezy> you will just metagame regardless of what I make, right
20:40:45 <Avatar> I will try and keep balance
20:41:10 <CWheezy> and you think me having that will be better than a spellcaster or the brutal stat array others have
20:41:34 <Mekkis> paranoid looks good :)
20:41:58 <Mekkis> I could roleplay that
20:42:18 <CWheezy> I took cruelty instead, even though the compulsion one is fun flavor
20:42:25 <CWheezy> I can't take it if I will be punished though
20:42:53 <Mekkis> I think the sense motive trait seems a good thing to get in exchange
20:42:54 <Avatar> if you think it'll be ignored because hopefully nobody notices you're power hungry, that won't work
20:43:05 <Avatar> unless you never end up using the trait you replace it with
20:43:07 <Mekkis> what do you think, Avatar?
20:43:33 <Avatar> if you use the trait, you can expect instances of the drawback coming into play more often
20:43:44 <Mekkis> I hope so
20:43:44 <CWheezy> that seems like total nonsense, but ok
20:43:51 <Avatar> if you don't like it, don't take a drawback
20:43:55 <CWheezy> so punished if I take it
20:44:03 <CWheezy> no I will take a different one that you can't metagame
20:44:14 <CWheezy> which solves that problem
20:44:23 <Mekkis> might take paranoid ven without a trait
20:44:39 <Steven> he is the GM. If he wants to do something its going to happen, if he wants to metagame its going to happen.
20:45:41 <Steven> we dont see behind the screen, so if he wants to apply the advance template to everything theres not much you can do but just roll with the punches.
20:46:05 <Mekkis> this isn't PFS, there's no "Run as Written"
20:46:28 <Avatar> I would generally run as written anyway
20:46:35 <Steven> Lets worry less about what avatar will be doing and just try to have fun. If what he is doing ruins our fun we can always let him know we arent having fun and if that doesnt work we can just leave the campaign.
20:46:39 <CWheezy> yes, it is true he can do whatever he wants
20:46:40 <CWheezy> steven
20:46:45 <Steven> specially since we havent even started yet.
20:46:47 <CWheezy> but it doesn't mean it is good/fair to do that lol
20:48:31 <Mekkis> hmm
20:48:38 <Mekkis> str 17 / dex 9 or vice versa
20:50:34 <Mekkis> time to take painkillers, antibiotics, and sleep
20:50:35 <Mekkis> 'night
20:53:03 <Steven> hmmmmm dockside Brawler
20:53:21 <Steven> nah besmara's blessing
20:56:24 <CWheezy> ok, uploaded
21:16:30 <Steven> submitting now
21:16:45 <Steven> decided to make an inquisitor...
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21:27:22 <Avatar> neither of the books say how much gp you start with
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21:30:25 <Steven> now that i've submitted a character, time to find out how horrible my second roll would have been
21:30:40 <Steven> !vchargen
21:30:40 <diebot> Steven, 14(3,3,6,5), 13(4,6,1,3), 15(3,6,6,1), 13(3,5,5,3), 14(2,2,6,6), 10(1,5,2,3)
21:31:17 <Steven> i got 3 points less than before
21:31:20 <Steven> lol
21:31:33 <Steven> the generator just hates you wheezy
21:34:27 <Steven> !vchargen
21:34:27 <diebot> Steven, 14(1,5,6,3), 11(1,5,3,3), 12(6,1,5,1), 17(6,5,1,6), 16(5,1,6,5), 17(6,2,6,5)
21:34:53 <Steven> but it loves me apparently
21:50:43 <CWheezy> lolllll
22:26:00 <Ulzef> i decided to watch shows for a night and you decide to run skull and shackels
22:26:19 <Ulzef> and btw avatar you start with nothing in skull and shackels
22:26:32 <Ulzef> only way to get gear is one of the campaigne traits
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