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19:17 <Mekkis> who's to bet Steven will cheese the Rivalry's End too
02:47 <Goya> I hate mibbit...
03:01 <Brunius> 14k gp
03:04 <Brunius> hmmm
03:14 <Goya> 14k?
05:47 <Blasticka> no you hate magical frogs. "mibbit. mibbit"
07:08 <Goya> Those too... i had a go with a bloody chair in PFS today.. Even worse than a frog..
07:48 <Goya> Sadly chair took out 3 party members before going down... 
08:21 <Blasticka> is that like a mimic type chair or something?
08:32 <Blasticka> why not just set it on fire and send in the wood cutter
08:32 <Goya> I apologize Im typing on a tablet so typos and bad grammar will follow
08:57 <Goya> they tried.  table burned well enough..
09:05 <Goya> missed the chair
10:06 <Blasticka> awww. sad day
10:29 <Blasticka> fireball doesn't miss anything
10:36 <Blasticka> they should have used one of those
11:28 <Goya> mage didnt have it..  all level 1s but me at 2
12:01 <CWheezy> oh "the disappeared right"
12:13 <Blasticka> I woulda zapped it with elemental ray. pew pew pew!
12:20 <Goya> hehe
12:36 <Blasticka> oops time to go catch the bus
12:42 <Blasticka> take it easy everyone
12:48 <Goya> you too
13:52 <Goya> i realized that i need silver and cold steel arrows though... =/
30:15 <kapow> mekkis
30:23 <Mekkis> karpow
30:23 <kapow> are you still thinking of running the PFS QQ?
30:30 <Mekkis> ja
30:38 <kapow> decide on what lvl?
30:46 <kapow> 12?
30:48 <Mekkis> I asked Avatar to create the campaign 
30:54 <Mekkis> 10
32:07 <kapow> limitations?
32:45 <Mekkis> pfs legal
38:18 <kapow> you've used mounts more than i have in my time. how does using a ride check to avoid attacks work?
39:18 <Mekkis> !feat mounted combat
39:19 <diebot> Mekkis, MOUNTED COMBAT [Combat]Prereq:  Ride 1 rank.  You are adept at guiding your mount through combat.
39:19 <diebot> Benefit:  Once per round when your mount is hit in combat, you may attempt a Ride check (as an immediate action) to negate the hit. The hit is negated if your Ride check result is greater than the opponent's attack roll. Source: Core
41:20 <Mekkis> like that
41:31 <kapow> aight
41:54 <CWheezy> can you negate criticals with mounted combat
42:14 <Mekkis> yes
42:52 <CWheezy> I would think yes as written
42:54 <CWheezy> but it seems weird
45:07 <Mekkis> you can negate crits with concealment
46:08 <CWheezy> !feat elephant stomp
46:08 <diebot> CWheezy, IMPLANT BOMB []Prereq:  Heal 5 ranks, delayed bomb alchemist discovery.   You can attach a bomb to a creature that explodes when the creature dies or after 24 hours.
46:09 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/feats/implant_bomb.html
46:25 <CWheezy> ok what
46:33 <CWheezy> I've never heard of that one
47:08 <Mekkis> best effort match
47:31 <Mekkis> it only has feats from UC, APG, UM and core
49:05 <Mekkis> I've lost my car
52:21 <kapow> what mekkis :S
53:36 <kapow> i think the lvl should be 11 not 10
54:35 <Mekkis> why kapow?
55:57 <Mekkis> I forgot where I parked it
56:22 <kapow> thats meant to be a 12 not an 11
56:39 <kapow> because 12 is the last level before retirement
56:41 <kapow> or the intended
56:58 <Mekkis> 10 is the highest tier before retirement 
58:24 <kapow> okay hang on let me rephrase
58:35 <kapow> Level 12 is the level cap for campaign as specified by paizo
59:15 <Mekkis> so it's best to build characters below that
59:56 <kapow> the retirement path for eyes of then ten is 12th level though
00:15 <Mekkis> sure. one set of scenarios
00:34 <kapow> The retirement arc scenario's are 12th level
01:02 <Mekkis> your point being? 
01:28 <kapow> You're the one running it so it's your choice I am just syaing that PFS play is for a 12th level retirement arc which is meant to be the final steps.
01:36 <kapow> so it's effectively 20th level
01:47 <kapow> so why would a QQ version of PFS legal characters be 12th level
01:53 <kapow> like 20th for original QQ
02:50 <Mekkis> put it this way: the highest tier for standard PFS scenarios is 10-11. There's no point building a character in retirement
03:41 <kapow> Isn't there? I thought that would be one of the main points of it.
04:03 <kapow> Wouldn't people want to be able to use it to test what the end product will be after all their work before they get there.
04:38 <kapow> See if they want to commit to playing scenarios to get to there before using them
05:03 <Mekkis> sure, and I'd argue that the end product is the 10-11s
05:05 <kapow> 12th level is the end product of Standard PFS scenario's so wouldn't that be the logical point
05:23 <Mekkis> no apostrophe
05:48 <Mekkis> no. eyes of the ten is not a 'standard pfs scenario'
06:56 <kapow> It's a retirement arch for people who have then finished the standard pfs scenarios with that character
08:53 <Mekkis> yes, not a standard pfs scenario 
09:17 <kapow> yes but you can use standard pfs scenarios to make it to 12th level being the point
09:24 <kapow> so that is the end of standard pfs play
09:27 <kapow> is 12th level
10:13 <Mekkis> you're arguing in circles.
10:51 <kapow> Because there is only 1 answer to come back to
11:48 <kapow> With the Mounted Skirmisher feat can you make your attacks before the mount moves
11:57 <kapow> or must the mount move prior to you making any attacks
12:26 <Mekkis> sure. As I see it, it's to answer the question "is this suitable for high-level PFS" not "is this suitable for Eot10"
16:01 <Mekkis> does that malke sense?
16:52 <kapow> Is this suitable for entering final tier of PFS scenario play."
17:21 <Mekkis> which is 10-11
18:03 <kapow> I would have to play 9 games with henry to be able to play eyes of the ten :/
18:37 <Mekkis> 9 games and find a suitable group 
23:48 <Brunius> Avatar was gonna play it soon, wasn't he?
27:56 <Avatar> what?
28:48 <Brunius> Eyes
30:15 <Brunius> Fortunate Charm: Worth it?
34:10 <Mekkis> fortune hex?
36:05 <Brunius> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/wondrous-items/wondrous-items/c-d/charm-fortunate
36:18 <Mekkis> kapow, Eot10 is an exception: it only works for one character
37:44 <CWheezy> hmmm
37:47 <CWheezy> doesn't seem that good
37:54 <CWheezy> especially when many skills are reroll already
38:19 <Brunius> How?
38:39 <CWheezy> ???
38:49 <CWheezy> things like perception, disable device, etc
38:55 <CWheezy> you can just reroll them all day
39:31 <kapow> not if you fail at disable device badly you can't
39:38 <kapow> you fail by more than 5 you can't do it all day
39:40 <kapow> it breaks gg
40:07 <Mekkis> UMD
40:59 <kapow> some faction missions where you only get one go at it
41:28 <kapow> !collar of the true companion
43:52 <kapow> I may spend the money on one of those mekkis for tsar :P
44:29 <Mekkis> !item collar of the true companion
44:31 <diebot> Mekkis, COLLAR OF THE TRUE COMPANION [moderate transmutation] CL:9 neck 10000gp, 1lb
44:31 <diebot> Although it appears to be a simple thong of leather, this collar was initially conceived by druids who believed that there were animals who possessed spirits worthy of elevation to true sentience. If worn by a creature of the animal type with an Intelligence less than 3, a collar of the true companion grants a +2 enhancement bonus to Intelligence.
44:31 <diebot> This does not give the animal the ability to speak, but it does allow it to understand one spoken language (chosen by the item's creator). If the collar is worn for at least 1 week by a creature of the animal type, the creature is raised to humanlike sentience, as though by the awaken spell. Once this occurs, the collar loses its magical
44:31 <diebot> properties. If a collar of the true companion is worn for more than 1 week by a creature not of the animal type, the wearer is feebleminded until the collar is removed. Source: Ultimate Equipment
45:30 <Mekkis> kapow, why not just cast the &awaken spell
45:35 <diebot> WIDEN SPELL [Metamagic] You can cast your spells so that they occupy a larger space.
45:35 <diebot> Benefit:  You can alter a burst, emanation, or spread-shaped spell to increase its area. Any numeric measurements of the spell's area increase by 100%. A widened spell uses up a spell slot three levels higher than the spell's actual level. Spells that do not have an area of one of these four sorts are not affected by this feat. Source: Core
45:51 <Mekkis>  &awaken
47:15 <kapow> once the creature is awakened it could then possibly learn that crit passing feat :P
47:51 <kapow> :/
48:00 <kapow> can't serves as an animal companion anymore though
48:06 <Mekkis> !spell awaken
48:16 <diebot> Mekkis, AWAKEN transmutation ([]) druid 5 24 hours Range: touch animal or tree touched Comp: V, S, M (herbs and oils worth 2,000 gp), DF Duration: instantaneous Save: Will negates SR:yes
48:17 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/awaken.html
49:59 <Mekkis> hmmm
50:27 <Mekkis> what about this
50:37 <Mekkis> cast awaken on an animal
50:49 <Mekkis> then cast feeblemind on it
51:00 <Mekkis> then cast awaken again 
51:08 <Mekkis> rinse and repeat 
51:36 <kapow> XP
51:45 <kapow> You'll make daniel cry
51:59 <kapow> or i would doing it
52:21 <Mekkis> end result: a creature with heaps of HD and cha
53:12 <kapow> no cha
53:20 <kapow> because feeblemind reduces it to 1
53:22 <kapow> 3 cha
55:53 <kapow> right?
56:12 <Brunius> !spell feeblemind
56:12 <diebot> Brunius, FEEBLEMIND enchantment (compulsion[mind-affecting]) sorcerer/wizard 5, witch 5 1 standard action Range: medium (100 ft. + 10 ft./level) one creature Comp: V, S, M (a handful of clay, crystal, or glass spheres) Duration: instantaneous Save: Will negates; see text SR:yes
56:12 <diebot> Target creature's Intelligence and Charisma scores each drop to 1. The affected creature is unable to use Intelligence- or Charismabased skills, cast spells, understand language, or communicate coherently. Still, it knows who its friends are and can follow them and even protect them. The subject remains in this state until a heal, limited wish,
56:12 <diebot> miracle, or wish spell is used to cancel the of the feeblemind. A creature that can cast arcane spells, such as a sorcerer or a wizard, takes a -4 penalty on its saving throw.
56:51 <Brunius> I think you'd gain the cha boost
57:48 <Mekkis> cast heal
00:03 <kapow> could you then do that in PFS?
02:31 <Mekkis> awaken is banne
03:44 <kapow> yeah right
03:55 <kapow> the only problem mekkis with doing it over n over again
04:02 <kapow> is cause the HD increase the will save increases
04:05 <kapow> to awaken it
04:31 <kapow> that and I don't think awaken works on magical beasts because they gain the type
08:41 <kapow> and how would leadership handle an animal companion that was awakened because of all the HD
46:59 <Mekkis> back on topic, of the six games that I mentioned, one is free, three are open-source, one you Should Buy direct from the publisher, and the other is on gog.
47:19 <Maestro> THERE he is. Cute little bunny
47:27 <Mekkis> actually, C&C is free, but getting a copy of v1.07 is challenging
47:38 <Maestro> He was just starting to bounce around and explore, now the little bastard gets some leafy greens to start his day
48:02 <Maestro> Thank god they practically potty train themselves
48:53 <Blasticka> well I've always wanted to play through NWN2
49:06 <Maestro> They have it
49:07 <Maestro> And the first one
49:16 <Blasticka> yep 20 bucks. something for next month
49:29 <Mekkis> Blasticka, wait until it's on sale
49:30 <Maestro> A day or so ago they had a 24-hour sale where if you got all of their D&D-based games at once you'd get 80% off the whole deal.
49:36 <Mekkis> yeah
49:40 <Maestro> I think Mekkis is the one who showed me that
49:42 <Mekkis> $21 for them all
49:44 <Blasticka> we are headed off to melbourne for our anniversary so we are kinda strapped this month.
50:00 <Mekkis> but you shouldn't be paying more than $10 for it.
50:04 <Mekkis> (I got mine free with my graphics card)
50:06 <Maestro> Happy anniversary!
50:21 <Mekkis> driving?
51:48 <Blasticka> naw flying. my dad in the states travels all over and had saved up travel points
52:19 <Blasticka> just for a few days we have an errand at the embassy there, and a couple days in a nice hotel as a bonus
53:13 <Mekkis> oh, you're not a citizen?
54:11 <Blasticka> no not yet, we are waiting for a letter actually to decide my residency
54:31 <Blasticka> if they say no no go home, we might be off to the states instead of melbourne
54:49 <Mekkis> oh, fun stuff
55:16 <Blasticka> we've been waiting a long time
55:37 <Blasticka> so at this point we'd just like a decision so we know where God wants us to live for the next couple years
57:47 <Mekkis> fun stuff
58:04 <Adrian> Does anyone who played in last night's PF game know how we get our chronicle sheets?
58:19 <Blasticka> on here, you are just patient
58:24 <Mekkis> Avatar gets them done
58:24 <Blasticka> and get online a lot
58:29 <Blasticka> yep
58:32 <Blasticka> but he is in school
58:36 <Adrian> ahh k
58:37 <Mekkis> no he isn't
58:43 <Blasticka> oh thought he was
58:44 <Mekkis> he's just busy
01:02 <Blasticka> hmmmm. what do i want to play. a game with a magical axe. who chooses an unwitting adventurer and makes him believe he is more powerful than he is, and leads him along adventures of Gold and dragons.
01:13 <Blasticka> mekkis have you made any like that?
02:46 <Maestro> Hehe sorry… was playing with the bunny
02:50 <Maestro> I turn into a five year old with him
03:18 <Blasticka> reminds me of invader zim and gir.
03:27 <Mekkis> I've almost done that
03:32 <Maestro> I figure we'll get them.
03:33 <Blasticka> and his little dog suit
03:38 <Mekkis> but players find it too railroady
04:03 <Maestro> I still haven't gotten a chronicle sheet for a game played over a week ago with the Roll20 PFS group. Both the Gm and the coordinator refuse to answer my e-mails
04:03 <Blasticka> what medium did you choose for the game?
05:21 <Maestro> Winston hates when I stop petting him, he'll spend the next fifteen minutes tugging at my pant leg just for more :P
05:37 <Mekkis> I ran it on here actually.
06:21 <Blasticka> awww sad i missed it
06:30 <Mekkis> it was a while ago
07:01 <Blasticka> we should turn it into an online rpg and make buku bucks
07:05 <Mekkis> at least you're not like that guy who wanted me to email his chronicle sheet to his comcast address, which refused to accept my email.
07:27 <Blasticka> we would call it, magicaxe
07:49 <Mekkis> Blasticka, there is no way I'm programming a commercial game unless you're paying me a lot of $$$, not commission, straight cash
08:17 <Blasticka> well how many do you need?
08:23 <Blasticka> $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
08:32 <Blasticka> I can do this all day. :-)
08:45 <Mekkis> 100k a year would be a good start
08:46 <Blasticka> no I don't have capital money to invest at this point
09:06 <Mekkis> good, because I don't think it would be a good investment
09:34 <Blasticka> I'm in a weird mood tonight Mekkis. gotta keep in mind I'm not really an australian, just a crazy american in disguise
10:01 <Maestro> lol, comcast
10:02 <Mekkis> you should start playing nethack
10:07 <Brunius> Speaking of which, where's Hydrazine?
10:08 <Maestro> I have no idea how they still exist
10:43 <Blasticka> what's nethack?
10:51 <Mekkis> a really good game
10:57 <Blasticka> I'll look it up
11:21 <Mekkis> www.nethack.org
15:27 * Maestro goes AFK to put the tea on and rummage for breakfast 
15:40 <Maestro> lol, Winston
15:59 <Maestro> Sorry
16:19 <Maestro> He has a hiding spot behind our shoe rack where I tossed a cardboard box after cutting a rabbit-sized hole into every side.
16:27 <Maestro> He drags it into corners of the room and then builds forts.
16:30 <Maestro> to hide in
16:33 <Brunius> ...
16:36 <Maestro> It was just too adorable.
16:41 <Maestro> 'cause he's doing it again
16:57 <Maestro> ^_^" Sorry
23:50 <Mekkis> help suggest a good deity for a heavens oracle
24:12 <Blasticka> I just powered it up
24:23 <Maestro> Give me more information about your oracle
24:29 <Blasticka> it's asking me questions! o.O
25:08 <Maestro> http://www.pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Category:Good_domain_deities
25:27 <Mekkis>  Caught in silver clouds
25:27 <Mekkis>  Enlightened by a mystic full moon
25:27 <Mekkis>  You designed the horizon
25:27 <Mekkis>  And amaze my minute heart
25:27 <Mekkis>  
25:27 <Mekkis>  Past, present, future
25:27 <Mekkis>  Trapped in this concept of time
25:29 <Mekkis>  I raise my mind's eye
25:31 <Mekkis>  To the infinite which lies
25:33 <Mekkis>  
25:35 <Mekkis>  In a silent night spreading wild
25:37 <Mekkis>  Stellar might, dark Heaven
25:39 <Mekkis>  Fill my art, trance my way
25:41 <Mekkis>  Shining grace forever
32:03 <Blasticka> that was very pretty.
32:14 <Blasticka> and nethack is confusing.
32:25 <Mekkis> you can play it online
32:27 <Mekkis> actually...
32:36 <Mekkis> you can watch me play it online :S
33:05 <Blasticka> I just killed some grid bugs
33:14 <Blasticka> by moving into them
33:51 <Blasticka> do you ever level up or anything?
33:59 <Mekkis> yes
34:05 <Mekkis> probably one of the first tips: don't hold down movement keys
34:14 <Mekkis> and turn off autopickup.
34:31 <Maestro> I should start taking drugs and go back to playing Eve Online
34:39 <Maestro> I'm pretty sure those two go well together
34:50 <Mekkis> yeah
34:56 <Blasticka> how do I turn off auto pick up if it is on?
34:58 <Mekkis> start up a scam organisation
35:04 <Mekkis> [O]ptions
35:16 <Mekkis> then steal all the ISK
35:24 <Mekkis> and use it to fund your habit, Maestro 
35:35 <Maestro> lol
35:43 <Maestro> I don't have the patience.
35:53 <Maestro> I actually have only ever played that game on drugs.
36:03 <Maestro> I was bedridden for a few weeks and on pain killers after surgery
36:14 <Maestro> And flying through space on a whim was pretty fun
36:45 <Maestro> Right around the same time I stopped taking the pain killers I also ventured through unsecured space and got exploded the second I came through the gate by some joyriders.
36:53 <Blasticka> who the heck is this hachi person that is getting in my way
37:02 <Blasticka> do I have a companion already or something?
37:08 <Mekkis> use ; to identify stuff
37:16 <Mekkis> it stands for "look far"
37:20 <Maestro> I think I spent another week trying to stalk them and level up so I could blow them up, then I realized it would take months of dedicated work and maneuvering and decided I just wasn't that invested in revenge over the internet.
37:31 <Mekkis> (because you're supposed to use hjkl to move about)
37:34 <Maestro> So if any of you ever cross me, you'd better watch your back for at least a week.
37:41 <Maestro> After that I'll get bored.
41:17 <Maestro> Wow
41:36 <Maestro> A guy got arrested next to a local university campus with a stolen truck full of explosives, weapons, and maps to three colleges.
41:37 <Brunius> Hmm
42:10 <Brunius> What's your name? So I don't cross you...of course...
43:53 <Maestro> Sorry it's a news story that just broke.
44:13 <Maestro> I'm going to be attending this college in the fall so I'm keeping up and they buried the lead on their Twitter feed.
44:26 <Maestro> They said "Man Arrested Near University of Washington Campus With Stolen Truck"
44:31 <Maestro> And then I read it.
44:53 <Maestro> They skipped: Rifle (with scope), shotgun, body armor, multiple molotov cocktails
44:57 <Maestro> Holy shit, school paper.
45:01 <Maestro> Way to bury the lead.
47:10 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: TBA || WotW: Sat 20th 1.30pm || All topic times are AEST (UTC+10:00); set up your timezone on the site for local times in the Schedule! | Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au
47:10 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Fri Jul  5 23:37:05 2013
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47:23 <Mekkis> zzzz
55:37 <Maestro> I haven't ACTUALLY been playing Final Fantasy 14 for a good two hours. Just been chatting with you folks.
56:06 <Mekkis> yeah, Maestro, what's your name?
57:02 <Maestro> I'm Stephen. 
57:50 <Maestro> My mom named me after my father's best friend.
57:52 <Maestro> Or at least she thought.
58:04 <Maestro> My dad was in his early 20's and in college and doesn't even talk to the guy anymore.
58:09 <Maestro> So my mom named me after my dad's college room mate.
58:20 <Maestro> I'm only just now making this connection
58:52 <Maestro> Sorry, I was laughing.
02:30 <Mekkis> rationing data sucks
02:54 <Mekkis> I have about 140mb over the next four days
08:59 <Blasticka> our plan is 200gb per month
09:02 <Blasticka> we rarely use it
09:24 <Mekkis> I'm on wireless at the moment
10:15 <Maestro> Ouch
10:16 <Blasticka> one of those darn internet sticks?
10:21 <Maestro> I don't use data much on my mobile.
10:42 <Mekkis> nope: I got a laptop with an integrated card
10:45 <Maestro> Home plan… I've never paid attention to the limits
14:21 <Blasticka> Iiiii want cannnddy! bum bam bum ba dun dun, Iiiiiii want caandy. 
14:29 <Blasticka> if I sing that will winston play the drums?
14:51 <Maestro> I wish
15:01 <Maestro> He's being pissy right now ^_^"
16:08 <Maestro> I tickled him as he walked past and he flicked his legs at me like he was trying to kick dirt up. It's how bunnies say "piss off"
18:55 <Blasticka> is he a dwarf lop? or a full sized.
24:59 <Maestro> I don't rightly know.
25:06 <Maestro> My fiancé got him for company when I deployed
26:42 <Blasticka> uh oh. she bought a MALE bunny? do you know how much sex drive those things have?!?!?
28:31 <Maestro> Just one bunny and the little guy hasn't tried to hump any legs or furniture yet
28:59 <Blasticka> I'm only teasin
35:36 <Maestro> Now he's all legs-out licking himself
35:44 <Maestro> Honestly it's just like having a cat.
44:27 <Blasticka> probably a nice vegetarian option to a cat.
48:54 <Maestro> Basically
49:11 <Maestro> But don't feed them just pellets. Those are meant for meat rabbits, to help fatten them up.
49:26 <Maestro> A common mistake.
49:40 <Maestro> Anyway, I'm turning into weird rabbit guy now
55:15 <Blasticka> dun dun dun! it's Dr. Maestro, and Mr. rabbit man!
05:48 <Maestro> I don't know why I play online games when "Stop attacking it, we're supposed to bring it in alive" is so hard to communicate v.v
07:48 <Maestro> XD
07:59 <Maestro> This NPC's name is Ermegarde
08:06 <Maestro> Which, said out loud, sounds like
08:08 <Maestro> ERMAGERD!!!
12:48 <Blasticka> lol that's funny
13:08 <Maestro> Final Fantasy 14 has some remarkably foul language in it, too
13:27 <Blasticka> I'm thinking of playing runescape
13:36 <Blasticka> can't find anything else to start playing
17:46 <Maestro> You can always be a superhero on DC Universe
17:50 <Maestro> free-to-play nowadays
55:00 <Blasticka> well been fun talking to you all, time for bed for us
55:03 <Blasticka> gettin late
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18:23 <Mekkis> who's to bet Steven will cheese the Rivalry's End too
47:44 <CWheezy> hello
33:20 <CWheezy> ha, I guess 6:32 am is a slow time
42:45 <Brunius> Generally
09:31 <Avatar> zzz
48:19 <Mekkis> zzzz
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14:17 <Mekkis> Australia's current Prime Minister, Tony Abbott, is becoming a major voice on the global political scene. A strong advocate for Australia, Abbott has rankled his counterparts in South America with his pro-Commonwealth and pro-Australia views. New Zealand's current Prime Minister, John Key, has taken a less rancorous profile, and as a result his country currently enjoys somewhat more favorable relations with South America than Abbott's Australia. 
16:17 <Brunius> Still reading Doomsday?
16:21 <Mekkis> ja
24:27 <kapow> Mekkis how would leadership handle magical beasts as an animal companion who had been awakened?
25:07 <kapow> because they have HD are their level for cohort level raised or is it purely on their class levels?
25:36 <Mekkis> Ask Your GM
25:43 <kapow> and when an animal is awakened does it then get a class level?
25:53 <kapow> how would you rule for wotw?
25:54 <Mekkis> are you intending to get one in WotW?
26:09 <kapow> I don't know
26:17 <kapow> maybe one day I would like a hellhound friend
26:32 <Mekkis> hellhounds aren't magical beasts
26:35 <Mekkis> umm
26:39 <Mekkis> aren't awakened animals
27:04 <kapow> I know i am just saying x beast
27:35 <kapow> You can attract hellhounds to your cohort with leadership apparently
27:58 <Mekkis> at the minimum, I'll allow HD = level.
34:46 <kapow> so with a score of 16 you'd be allowed 1 3HD creature :/?
35:56 <Mekkis> cohort
35:58 <Mekkis> not followers
42:42 <Mekkis> you having a pack of hellhounds behind you... not as sure as of yet
49:30 <Avatar> man I forgot to do the chronicle sheets for friday's game yesterday
49:41 <Avatar> and I'm leaving shortly to GM another game at blackburn today
51:41 <Mekkis> 73656
53:48 <Mekkis> for reference, gold will be 73656gp, with 54 fame.
53:53 <Mekkis> and 54 prestige
54:12 <Blasticka> hey guys.
54:17 <Mekkis> oh no
54:24 <Mekkis> Blasticka has found me!
54:28 <Blasticka> wow. that looks like a big mission if ya get that much
54:36 <Blasticka> can I play! :-D
54:43 <Mekkis> yes.
54:54 <Blasticka> *pokes mekkis* do a mission for the little guys
54:55 <Mekkis> create a 10th-level PFS legal character
55:11 <Blasticka> am I allowed to just jump to 10th level?
55:18 <Mekkis> not in official PFS
55:29 <Avatar> yeah I am playing eyes soonish
55:47 <Avatar> in reality that could be in 3 months though
55:49 <Mekkis> but more character testing, and to provide a save environment for blatant unrepentant powergaming
56:05 <Mekkis> Avatar, could you create PFSQQ for me?
56:08 <Blasticka> so when is this game? how long do I have?
56:21 <Mekkis> when people have characters and are around
56:31 <Avatar> what is PFSQQ
56:44 <Mekkis> QQ, with PFS-legal characters
56:50 <Blasticka> hmmm. maybe I'll make a monk
56:58 <Mekkis> 10th level
57:06 <Blasticka> they don't need much gear and I wouldn't have much of a budget
57:07 <Avatar> er
57:08 <Avatar> what's the name of it
57:11 <Mekkis> PFSQQ
57:21 <Avatar> that's an abbreviation
57:33 <Mekkis> Crimoire PFS Style
57:57 <Blasticka> are there enough seats that my wife could play as well if she made one?
58:02 <Avatar> I think abbreviations are limited to 4 letters too
58:03 <Mekkis> sure
59:16 <Blasticka> so quick question, for the level 10, how much gold? still 150?
59:25 <Avatar> can you call it anything else, I'm not keen on putting PFS in the name of a campaign that isn't actually official PFS
59:47 <Avatar> QQ2 or something
00:50 <Mekkis> PFSQ ' ALTER TABLE CAMPAIGN SET ABBREV VARCHAR(6)
00:53 <Mekkis> ;--
01:08 <Mekkis> Sure, whatever floats your boat
01:19 <Mekkis> Blasticka, gold will be 73656gp, with 54 fame.
01:38 <Mekkis> (that's more than 'standard' pathfinder WBL)
01:57 <Blasticka> no I didn't mean for the reward, I meant for creation
02:35 <Avatar> okay it's added
02:36 <Mekkis> that's the creation
02:48 <Avatar> you can edit it to put whatever the players need to know
03:00 <Mekkis> thanks
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04:27 <Blasticka> sweet. we can get some serious stuff then I'll start looking around
07:57 <Blasticka> allengirl wanted to know if there are any race restrictions other than the no drow rule Mekkis?
11:13 <Mekkis> PFS legal
11:40 <Mekkis> core + tengu + asimaar + tiefling
15:14 <Adrian> Is there a PFS legal list/spreadsheet of items I can purchase with gp?
16:01 <Brunius> It'd be pretty huge
16:17 <Brunius> ?legal
16:38 <Mekkis> Adrian, almost every item in Pathfinder is PFS-legal
16:41 <Brunius> !define legal: http://paizo.com/pathfinderSociety/about/additionalResources
16:42 <diebot> Brunius, http://paizo.com/pathfinderSociety/about/additionalResources defined as ??legal
16:52 <Brunius> !define global legal: http://paizo.com/pathfinderSociety/about/additionalResources
16:53 <diebot> Brunius, http://paizo.com/pathfinderSociety/about/additionalResources defined as ??legal
16:58 <Mekkis> but check with the additional resources before you buy stuff
17:25 <Mekkis> and what "no drow" rule, Blasticka?
17:30 <Adrian> I'll rephrase the Q then: Any spreadsheet of items? Or just in the Core Rulebook?
17:46 <Mekkis> because in all the campaigns I've run, I've allowed drow
18:00 <Blasticka> I was told a flat "no drow" when I asked about it
18:00 <Brunius> Check the additional resources page there
18:00 <Blasticka> long time ago
18:01 <Brunius> Everything in that is legal, Adrian
18:03 <Mekkis> Adrian, I have an sql database
18:16 <Mekkis> http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/pathfinder.sqlite.bz2
18:43 <Adrian> thanks
19:58 <Blasticka> weird. cant remember now who told me no drow
20:51 <Adrian> gosh that additional resources list is so hard to read lol :P
21:42 <Blasticka> I'd be interested in playing a hobgoblin if only it wouldn't get my character into too many fights. :-/ sigh
26:20 <Blasticka> can I be an Oread?
26:41 <Mekkis> PFS-legal.
27:08 <Blasticka> sadly, I haven't played enough or bought enough pdf's to know if that is a yes or no...
27:29 <Mekkis> is it "core + aasimar + tengu + tiefling"?
27:42 <Blasticka> awwww. okay
27:54 <Blasticka> drow isn't either though so I though you might be making exceptions
28:14 <Mekkis> sorry, PFS is PFS
29:26 <Blasticka> no worries. this is fun
36:30 <CWheezy> oh man no chronicle
37:16 <Blasticka> okay. I'm stuck between half elf and human for my monk. suggestions?
39:22 <Mekkis> dwarf
39:33 <Blasticka> I considered that actually
39:48 <Mekkis> that +2 to saves is pretty good
39:56 <Blasticka> but the 20 movement, I figured that would bite me later on
40:50 <Blasticka> alright then. I really like dwarves
41:03 <Mekkis> monks get movement bonuses
41:14 <Blasticka> oh that's good.
46:16 <Blasticka> so at 10th, I'd get a bonus 30 putting me at 50 that's no worries. cool.
46:36 <Blasticka> time to get some ability scores sorted.
56:31 <Blasticka> alright. so I put in both of the level 4 and level 8 plus one stats, and these are my level 10 ability scores. can you check them mekkis if you don't mind?
56:43 <Blasticka> http://www.pfrpg.com.au/charsheet.php5?id=785
58:23 <Mekkis> yep
59:23 <Blasticka> am I hamstringing myself with the intel dump?
05:41 <Mekkis> probably not
05:50 <Mekkis> I wouldn't do it in real PFS, but in this, sure
06:34 <Blasticka> my goal was to make a monk who was REAAALLY good at punching things
07:34 <Blasticka> couldn't quite hit 20 strength though.
07:44 <Blasticka> sadly.
07:55 <Mekkis> sure you can
08:02 <Mekkis> just get a belt
08:11 <Blasticka> have to buy a bulls strenght belt or something
08:23 <Blasticka> haven't gotten into my shopping yet.
32:56 <Blasticka> monks get so many feats in pfs
42:26 <Mekkis> time to make my oracle
50:21 <Blasticka> are you playing with us then or are you the GM?
55:42 <Avatar> scratch that, looks like I'll be able to do them now
58:03 <Brunius> What happened?
59:03 <Avatar> 7 people had signed up, but 1 had already played it and another was running super late and possibly not showing
59:29 <Avatar> ashley was already running way of the kirin with less than 6 so one guy moved over
59:34 ChanOP gives channel half-operator status to dicebot
59:57 <Brunius> Leaves four people?
00:17 <Avatar> initially there were 8 signed on to do the disappeared
00:32 <Avatar> 1 signed off last night, ryan said this morning he wasn't keen on GMing for 7
00:49 <Avatar> then 1 more couldn't play it and 1 more was running late/not showing
00:52 <Avatar> leaving 5 or 6
07:07 <Mekkis> I'll be GMing some stuff, but anyone's welcome to GM
07:39 <Avatar> the new players there seem really cool
08:09 <Avatar> I walked in and recognised only ashley at a full table, I'm like jesus how long have I been gone
08:10 <CWheezy> wow 8 people for the disappeared
08:15 <CWheezy> that would have been hilarious
08:22 <Avatar> it's not a legal table
08:30 <kapow> I am burning scenarios left right and centre atm
08:31 <Avatar> would've been hilarious if it was
08:33 <kapow> on wednesdays
08:34 <Avatar> kapow
08:41 <CWheezy> yes
08:44 <CWheezy> Alright pathfinders
08:47 <Avatar> one person fails, everyone gets sprung!
08:51 <CWheezy> we have chosen all 8 of you for a stealth mission
08:54 <Avatar> haha
09:23 <CWheezy> I'm Ambrus Valsin, glorious leader and expert tactician 
10:48 <kapow> danke
10:59 <Mekkis> Data Used 96% (1965 MB)
11:04 <Mekkis> goodnight
14:26 <Avatar> yuugz
15:10 <Yuugi> Hi
15:27 <Avatar> may I call you yuugz
15:34 <Yuugi> Sure
15:56 <Avatar> it just has a ring to it
16:19 <Brunius> Does this mean you're Azza
16:35 <Yuugi> I'm finding out that being a GM for play-by-post is hard. So I'm looking for alternatives.
20:17 <Avatar> why do you find it hard GMing in pbp
20:49 <CWheezy> roll20 is super great imo
20:56 <Brunius> People in PbP tend to be unreliable
21:32 <Avatar> have you played pbp brunius
21:45 <Yuugi> It's the whole mindset PbP seems to create. Players are more interested and invested in playing their characters than in playing the game.
21:55 <Brunius|M-> Not for pfs
24:51 <Yuugi> PbP players also have a heavy sense of entitlement about their characters. And they tend to get vocal about it.
24:52 <Avatar> are you talking about roleplay yuugz
25:00 <Avatar> like heavy roleplay
25:08 <Avatar> I think I've seen that kind of thing
25:29 <Yuugi> It's not exactly the same thing. I'm having trouble coming up with a solution because I don't exactly know the problem myself...
25:40 <Yuugi> I think it's more about the difference between roleplaying and roleplaying GAMES.
26:43 <Avatar> if you use realtime chat or voice, the problem isn't there
26:53 <Avatar> it's that they have time to spare, so they're free to flesh it out
27:18 <Yuugi> I wouldn't mind if I were a GM of free-form RP, or a more rules-lite, narrative system. Those things are less like games.
28:03 <Avatar> it might be different in regular campaigns
28:20 <Avatar> I don't know, I'm talking from near-non-existent experience in pbp
28:26 <Avatar> I've only seen it briefly, never played it
29:09 <Yuugi> I've been trying to GM it since last month. So far I've got two games going, and I've noticed these problems.
30:36 <Avatar> Brunius: can you accept files over IRC
34:55 <Yuugi> I don't think I'm ready for roll20 though. I have the worst voice for a GM, and I'm shy, and I'm slow.
35:43 <Avatar> we used to play games with chat only
35:53 <Avatar> it can be done, just can be rougher with how long it takes
36:43 <Avatar> if you need to split a game over two sessions, it's something you'd want to mention before the game
37:14 <Avatar> it might be worth playing first to get an idea of what it's like
37:23 <Ballig> why do you have a bad GM voice
37:27 <Ballig> do you sound like you've been inhaling helium
37:46 <Yuugi> I just do?
44:08 <Yuugi> I still really like the idea of PbP, and I've come up with nifty ways around most of the problems like maps or character sheets... I just haven't found the right group of players yet I guess.
47:29 <Brunius> Avatar: Yes, but you have to warn me
48:12 <Avatar> now
48:18 <Avatar> set yourself to auto-receive
48:21 <Brunius> No.
48:25 <Avatar> when was the last time you received a malicious file
48:28 <Brunius> I prefer not to receive files at random
48:44 <Ballig> I can tell you that people never send you files unless you know them
48:49 <Ballig> I've had auto-receive on since you were 7
48:53 <Avatar> haha
49:01 <Avatar> back in the day I used to get them but it never happens now
49:13 <Avatar> it's an enormous convenience 
49:19 <Ballig> back in the heydey of IRC and when you were in random channels, maybe
49:25 <Avatar> yeah pretty much
49:50 <Avatar> when I hung around #unix and everyone there knew I was a windows script kidding trying to be funny
49:54 <Avatar> kiddie*
50:13 <Avatar> good times
50:17 <Ballig> good times
50:36 <Brunius> I switched schools when I was 7
51:14 <Ballig> yeah I was turning auto-receive in IRC on when you were switching schools
51:25 <Brunius>  Promise?
51:32 <Ballig> promise
04:01 <Avatar> where is steven
07:04 <Avatar> hey, rivalry's end is out
07:25 <Avatar> it has 1 rating so far and it's a 1-star rating
07:30 <Avatar> so the scenario has 1 star overall
08:54 <CWheezy> I didn't like it that much
09:12 <Avatar> is it your review
09:47 <Brunius> I bet it is
09:54 <CWheezy> no
10:34 <Avatar> the review sounds fairly biased
10:44 <Avatar> "we were forced to play up, we could've all died because of it"
10:49 <Avatar> umm
10:56 <Brunius> That's kind of the point of playing up
11:20 <Wrothmonk> Now thats kinda a bullshit excuse for giving it a bad review.
11:59 <Avatar> there was a bit more to it of course, I am being colourful, but that was the gist I got
12:11 <Avatar> I try to overlook any would-be spoilers
12:27 <Wrothmonk> Ah.
15:32 <CWheezy> no one is forced to play up
17:12 <Avatar> you are forced to play up if your APL is above the middle of the subtiers
17:28 <Avatar> if your table has a level 5, and the others are 8 8 8 9, then you're playing up
17:51 <Brunius> That's not technically 'playing up'
17:57 <CWheezy> yeah
18:16 <Avatar> yeah that's what it meant though
19:00 <kapow> What are we talking about now :D?
27:38 <Wrothmonk> We are not talking, we are apparently contemplating silence.
27:59 <Brunius> I'm running faction warfare sites
28:02 <Brunius> for the sweet sweet LP
28:09 <Ballig> what's LP
28:46 <Brunius> Loyalty Points
28:48 <Wrothmonk> Loyalty points I believe, a corporation orientated currency in eve.
29:34 <Ballig> oh, Eve
34:22 <kapow> I played that game once kinda liked it but not enough to pay for it
56:41 <Wrothmonk> I just found a tumblr page mainly dedicated to posting a meme of DnD jokes.
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