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00:03 <kapow> want to play henry through a lot of high tier stuff
00:09 <Mekkis> I know
00:10 <kapow> and peter atleast in bonekeep 1
00:45 <kapow> I have to start a new character soon too :/
00:57 <Avatar> I can't believe you have a level 8 alchemist
01:01 <Avatar> my alchemist is level 3
01:05 <kapow> 9/4/4/3.2 that will jump to 4.2 once i play it again
01:08 <Avatar> do you remember when we made our alchemists at the same time
01:13 <kapow> my alchemist is lvl 9 now
01:14 <kapow> after tonight
01:18 <kapow> yup
01:26 <Mekkis> kapow, I have 4/7/8/9/10/11
01:39 <Mekkis> and a 2.5 blob
01:41 <Avatar> we need to run some 1-5s
01:47 <Mekkis> 2.2 blob*
01:49 <Avatar> the newbies are starving for games
01:58 <Mekkis> I'm getting low-tier fatigue
02:05 <Avatar> yeah so was I
02:57 <kapow> if i was to run 2 games or play 2 games my 3 would go to 5 instantly
02:59 <Mekkis> any idea how we can attract new GMs?
03:02 <kapow> but i honestly dislike my gunslinger
03:14 <Avatar> I was hoping to get more higher level players in tonight
03:18 <Maestro> It's not a very stimulating class
03:19 <proquar> gunslinger as healer = buahahahahaha
03:30 <proquar> "I'll shoot the wound"
03:33 <Avatar> if we can run games for more high level guys so that they can games for more low level guys
03:40 <Avatar> haha
03:41 <Maestro> Only a gunslinger… *shakes his head*
03:51 <Avatar> my gunslinger can't do that
04:11 <Mekkis> Avatar, perhaps people share my opinion that some games, like Fortress of the Nail and Mantis' Prey are so roleplay-heavy that they shouldn't be run online....
04:20 <Avatar> if you're not in the know, that is actually a real ability
04:40 <Avatar> tonight's scenario went pretty swimmingly
05:08 <kapow> Way of the Kirin should never be run online in my opinion
05:17 <proquar> gunslingers, to be honest, turn me of pfs
05:27 <Avatar> way of the kirin was fine
05:35 <Avatar> what about alchemists
05:38 <Mekkis> especially with people who are blatantly cheating
06:04 <Avatar> who's blatantly cheating
06:04 <kapow> mekkis i had paul in my game
06:09 <kapow> the one with the maneuver master monk
06:14 <kapow> I pulled his character to bits
06:18 <Mekkis> good on you
06:27 <kapow> cause he was trying to flurry to maneuver and attack XP
06:36 <kapow> like i did until we found out it was different
06:39 <Mekkis> was he dirty-tricking on an AoO?
06:59 <kapow> he was trying to maneuver on AoO's
07:10 <Mekkis> you can do SOME maneuvers on AoOs
07:17 <Mekkis> you can't do steal or dirty trick
07:21 <kapow> he did say i want to blind on an AoO then said wait no nvm
07:46 <kapow> but i terrified them with way of the kirin
07:46 <Avatar> is dirty trick any good?
07:50 <kapow> it was fun ^_^
07:56 <kapow> a player who knows hwo to use alchemists properly
08:01 <kapow> gets given 4 alchemists to play
08:03 <kapow> LOL!
08:17 <kapow> I had fun with that combat :D
08:44 <kapow> I had to soften up the encounter though or it would of been a straight romp stomp tpk
08:52 <Maestro> Maneuver master can do dirty tricks on AoO
08:56 <Avatar> dirty trick any good?
09:08 <Maestro> They can be quite good if you can pull it off
09:17 <Maestro> You can make the enemy blind for at least one round
09:21 <proquar> hmm... funny that an alchemist could do so much damage to a beastie that a mage couldn't touch
09:27 * proquar shurgs helplessly
09:27 <Mekkis> Avatar, someone who had GMed it before (without assigning the credit to a character), signed up to play, then left halfway through, and then retroactively applied the credit to the character who had signed up to play it.
10:37 <Mekkis> Maestro, where does it say a manoeuvre master can do that?
11:06 <kapow> proquar I know a crap tonne about alchemists is all and have prepared mine well
11:20 <kapow> I'm not saying you played badly I am saying a pregen is nothing compared to a player made character
11:46 <proquar> i understand... but y'know... i'm still learning about PFS.... and trying to take it all in
11:48 <Mekkis> proquar, when I played fortress of the nail, my wizard hit the end boss with a Phantasmal Killer, and ended the combat in the first round...
11:54 <Avatar> kapow: http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2pfsc?Day-Job-Question#18
12:02 <proquar> heh
12:24 <proquar> it's true i didn't get to prep the spells for this wizard... who had all fire based artillery spells
12:38 <kapow> cool from brock himself
12:47 <kapow> doesn't matter henry now
12:49 <Mekkis> proquar, how high level is your highest-level character?
12:57 <proquar> nearly 3
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13:04 <Mekkis> kapow, there is the boon that gives you more dayjob options....
13:05 * proquar ponders the situation
13:06 <Avatar> really
13:18 <Avatar> I thought most of the games you've played are pregens
13:29 <proquar> heh
13:30 <proquar> tabina is nearly level 3 
13:40 <proquar> let's not talk about her audit, because i'll only get sad again
13:46 <proquar> and it's way too late for that now
14:15 <Mekkis> I would run a game tomorrow, but I only have about 100mb of data or so before I get charged at $150/gb
14:21 <proquar> when i was looking on paizo, discovered most of the games have been attributed to her
14:23 <Mekkis> and it'll be the most expensive PFS game ever
14:50 <proquar> i can't play tomorrow (or most saturdays - maybe evening, but unreliably)
15:03 <kapow> net cafe mekkis :P
15:08 <kapow> you won't look that silly!
15:08 <Mekkis> actually
15:13 <Mekkis> that'd be incorrect
15:28 <proquar> go to ballig's place ;)
15:46 <Mekkis> most expensive PFS game would be the one I ran on the 18th :)
16:05 <proquar> gotta early soccer run tomorrow... sleep well!
16:10 <Mekkis> proquar, he's not responding to my messages, and showing up uninvited would be bad
16:11 <kapow> :P
16:22 <kapow> well considering all else you did too mekkis
16:22 <proquar> ahhhhh
16:33 <Mekkis> kapow?
16:44 <proquar> hey kapow, what was the game we were thinking of that we haven't scored up yet?
16:52 * proquar nudges mekkis and kapow
16:58 <proquar> was that the game on the 18th?
17:39 <kapow> I can't even remember proquar
17:41 <kapow> all of it blends together for me
17:49 <proquar> yeah... me too
17:51 * proquar blushes
17:52 <Mekkis> I suppose you'd say that it'd be unfair to say that spending about $1200 to fly over to Singapore, run two games of PFS and play one, meaning that each game cost about $400 each...
17:54 <Mekkis> :P
18:00 <kapow> you didn't just pay that money to run the game :P
18:09 <kapow> you bought stuff too
18:12 <kapow> and went to monkies
18:20 <kapow> and other stuff too
18:25 <kapow> paid to breathe worse air
18:40 <Mekkis> the SGD8 I needed to pay for the venue for the game on the 18th pushes it slightly higher :S
18:46 <Mekkis> yeah
18:54 <Mekkis> the zoo had a lot of lemurs in it
18:58 proquar has quit (Quit: anyways - gotta run... sleep well!)
19:03 <Mekkis> I should have locked mort in there
19:25 <kapow> would of been interesting
19:29 <Mekkis> it would have
19:34 <Avatar> finally prove whether she is one or not
19:41 <kapow> trying to decide what character i want to make next :/
19:50 <Avatar> don't make a touch AC character
19:50 <Mekkis> she cut off her tail
19:56 <kapow> I need to die in tsar :/
20:09 <Avatar> what is tsar
20:11 <Mekkis> kapow, you should do what I did
20:22 <Mekkis> make sure that all your tsar characters are not PFS-legal
20:28 <kapow> i haven't been able to test character's in tsar cause i haven't been dieing
20:45 <kapow> but i like them being pfs legal it gives me an idea of what to make for pfs
20:49 <Mekkis> (except for Lucent, who WAS pfs-legal, but was rejected when Flood took one look at him)
20:50 <kapow> before i invest time into it
21:05 <kapow> :P
21:13 <Mekkis> currently as I see it, the most broken PFS-legal character I've seen
21:20 <kapow> i think the only non legal pfs was my werebear
21:26 <kapow> and that was only because he was a were
21:46 <kapow> and avatar tsar is a dnd 1st set of books
21:49 <kapow> i think
21:57 <kapow> mekk can explain it better
22:12 <Mekkis> I think one-on-one vs Buck and Henry, he'd win easily
22:24 <Mekkis> two-on-one
23:08 <kapow> yeah but henry isn't done very well :/
23:18 <Mekkis> so, after listening to some symphonic rock, my next character will be an oracle
23:19 <kapow> cause i played him before i was aware of a lot of things in pathfinder
23:25 <kapow> or he would be a lot more powerful
23:34 <Mekkis> sure
23:53 <kapow> I really don't know what to do next nothing at the moment really grabs my attention
24:07 <Mekkis> but I think Lucent would be able to deal with *any* 10th-12th level character you could throw at him
24:10 <kapow> I was thinking of maybe some kind of scythe fighter
24:38 <Mekkis> kapow, scythe druid with animal companion with Butterfly Sting
24:52 <kapow> whats that?
25:39 <Mekkis> When you confirm a critical hit against a creature, you can choose to forgo the effect of the critical hit and grant a critical hit to the next ally who hits the creature with a melee attack before the start of your next turn. Your attack only deals normal damage, and the next ally automatically confirms the hit as a critical.
25:52 <Mekkis> hmmm
26:00 <Mekkis> actually, that's really hard to get
26:05 <Mekkis> int 13 prereq
26:17 <Mekkis> no way an animal companion could get that
27:47 <Mekkis> f00f
30:59 <Mekkis> it's nice to start being paid again
31:24 <Mekkis> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/butterfly-s-sting-critical
32:12 <Mekkis> Avatar, I want to start a new "campaign" - basically a 10th-level PFS-legal QQ.
32:38 <kapow> you need 2 people to play mekkis :D
32:41 <kapow> 1 to use that
32:45 <kapow> and then someone with a scythe
32:49 <Mekkis> Defunct had it
32:53 <kapow> so someone with like an improved crit scimitar
33:05 <kapow> and then a scythe wielder
33:22 <boris> fsfd
33:39 <Mekkis> the idea was to give it to your animal companion
33:49 <Mekkis> and find one that has a shitton of attacks
34:34 <boris> http://i.imgur.com/J8WW6O7.gif
35:19 <Mekkis> hmmm
35:29 <Mekkis> maybe I'll rebuild Defunct again
35:39 <Mekkis> with a scimitar and butterfly sting
35:46 <Mekkis> and all the TWF bs
35:47 <kapow> I was thinking of playing a mammoth rider with shoes of the zeyher and premenancied reduce
36:06 <Brunius> Aren't you the guy that was obsessed with seagull thief
36:17 <boris> crime bird
36:29 <boris> steal chip
37:35 <boris> i duno
38:34 <kapow> mekkis!
38:52 <kapow> would it be possible to play a cavalier/wizard with that dragon idea XP
39:01 <kapow> and ride the dragon as the mount XP?
39:14 <Mekkis> dragon?
39:48 <kapow> lucent's familiar
39:59 <Mekkis> ...is not a dragon
40:19 <kapow> sorry what was it again
40:21 <kapow> bad memory
40:43 <Mekkis> a construct
44:21 <Mekkis> but you can use Form of the Dragon and other cheese if you want
44:42 <kapow> I don't intend to make daniel cry
44:44 <Mekkis> and sure, you could
45:16 <Mekkis> but that particular build sort of requires you to GM credit your way all the way to 10th (or higher, the gains are quadratic)
45:53 <kapow> yeah but i am talking about tsar now here
46:08 <kapow> cause I am getting tired of being the heal bot :/
46:16 <Mekkis> don't do a lucent
46:19 <kapow> though ballig's 2 channels in a round was really cool
46:30 <kapow> and kind of thinking of taking that atleast in the mean time
46:40 <Mekkis> that creature could probably take out the dragon in two turns
47:13 <kapow> so mekkis did you get my pm last night?
47:18 <Mekkis> no
47:26 <kapow> I am either going to make a spirit charge lance weilding cavalier
47:30 <kapow> who rides a tiger
47:34 <kapow> to pounce charge
47:55 <Mekkis> remember the spelling rules regarding the letters 'i' and 'e'?
48:00 <kapow> or a tyransarous riding bow user or scythe weilder
48:08 <kapow> i before e except after c
48:22 <Mekkis> apply them :)
48:26 <kapow> wielding* fingers can't keep up
48:50 <kapow> which do you think should be better :P?
49:00 <kapow> a T-rex with +34 str
49:07 <Mekkis> given that the pounce charge proposal won't work well, and I'm not sure how a cavalier can get a tiger, I'd suggest the latter
49:07 <Brunius> there's hundreds of words that don't follow that rule, and only tens that follow it
49:08 <kapow> or being able to pounce spirited charge
49:22 <Mekkis> Brunius, citation is needed
49:23 <kapow> Archetype
49:48 <Mekkis> turn 1: Lucent D-Doors to the dragon (along with another party member), quickened true strike. Followup is bite (standard), grapple (free), pin (swift), tie up (move). Party member applies scythe for a good Coup de grâce.
49:52 <kapow> playing cavalier mammoth rider
50:02 <Brunius> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_before_e
50:06 <Mekkis> I mean, if the mount pounces, it needs to charge into melee
50:07 <Brunius> "Some authorities deprecate the rule as having too many exceptions to be worth learning.[2][3][4][5]"
50:09 <kapow> can you surpress a permenancied effect?
50:19 <Mekkis> Brunius, don't cite wikipedia. It is never a reliable source
50:38 <Brunius> Strangely, many math and science articles on wikipedia are fairly reliable
50:43 <Brunius> Nobody cares enough to change it
50:45 <kapow> yeah it pounces which is a charge action that allows it to still full attack
50:53 <kapow> so you as the player have charged correct?
50:55 <boris> ssigh
51:02 <Mekkis> sure, but if you do so in uni, it won't be look good.
51:10 <Mekkis> kapow, different reach lengths for one
51:16 <Mekkis> Lucent, being a diviner, has about +13 to initiative and always acts in the surprise round
51:40 <kapow> not when the huge creature is only large
51:42 <kapow> and you have a lance
51:56 <Mekkis> a large animal almost always has 5' reach
52:07 <kapow> yes and a lance is a reach weapon
52:56 <kapow> Lance 10 gp 1d6 1d8 ×3 — 10 lbs. P reach
53:25 <Mekkis> hmmm... the flight for Paizoconoz will be manageable
53:48 <Mekkis> $385
54:02 <kapow> anyway the other question was can you vulentarily supress a permanencied effect or will it be gone?
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00:16 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Fri Jul  5 23:37:05 2013
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02:13 <Wrothmonk> He means RP wise so they aren't mary sues.
02:54 <Mekkis> HTT-Bird, in PFS, I suggest berating those players who insist on cheesing out their characters
03:13 <Wrothmonk> How did I know you were going to say that mekkis.
03:29 <Mekkis> remember, the only difference between a cheesed-out character and a balanced character is how people react when they die.
03:50 <Wrothmonk> the different reactions being?
04:18 <Mekkis> "Finally we're rid of that jerk" vs "It's a real pity that your character died"
05:11 <Avatar> if you're not in the know, that is actually a real ability
05:34 <Avatar> tonight's scenario went pretty swimmingly
06:02 <kapow> Way of the Kirin should never be run online in my opinion
06:11 <proquar> gunslingers, to be honest, turn me of pfs
06:20 <Avatar> way of the kirin was fine
06:29 <Avatar> what about alchemists
06:32 <Mekkis> especially with people who are blatantly cheating
06:48 <Mekkis> I wish I was allowed to give out the Golden Parachute boon
06:56 <Wrothmonk> ?
06:58 <Avatar> who's blatantly cheating
06:58 <kapow> mekkis i had paul in my game
07:02 <Wrothmonk> what would that do.
07:03 <kapow> the one with the maneuver master monk
07:08 <kapow> I pulled his character to bits
07:08 <Mekkis> 57XP.
07:13 <Mekkis> good on you
07:20 <kapow> cause he was trying to flurry to maneuver and attack XP
07:30 <kapow> like i did until we found out it was different
07:33 <Mekkis> was he dirty-tricking on an AoO?
07:53 <kapow> he was trying to maneuver on AoO's
08:04 <Mekkis> you can do SOME maneuvers on AoOs
08:09 <Wrothmonk> well, thats one way of getting high level without as much gold.
08:12 <Mekkis> you can't do steal or dirty trick
08:15 <kapow> he did say i want to blind on an AoO then said wait no nvm
08:20 <Mekkis> no
08:28 <Mekkis> it's a way of forcing a character into retirement.
08:37 <Wrothmonk> Ah
08:40 <kapow> but i terrified them with way of the kirin
08:40 <Avatar> is dirty trick any good?
08:42 <Wrothmonk> oh I see
08:44 <kapow> it was fun ^_^
08:50 <kapow> a player who knows hwo to use alchemists properly
08:55 <kapow> gets given 4 alchemists to play
08:57 <kapow> LOL!
09:10 <kapow> I had fun with that combat :D
09:37 <kapow> I had to soften up the encounter though or it would of been a straight romp stomp tpk
09:46 <Maestro> Maneuver master can do dirty tricks on AoO
09:50 <Avatar> dirty trick any good?
10:02 <Maestro> They can be quite good if you can pull it off
10:10 <Maestro> You can make the enemy blind for at least one round
10:15 <proquar> hmm... funny that an alchemist could do so much damage to a beastie that a mage couldn't touch
10:21 * proquar shurgs helplessly
10:21 <Mekkis> Avatar, someone who had GMed it before (without assigning the credit to a character), signed up to play, then left halfway through, and then retroactively applied the credit to the character who had signed up to play it.
11:31 <Mekkis> Maestro, where does it say a manoeuvre master can do that?
11:57 <kapow> proquar I know a crap tonne about alchemists is all and have prepared mine well
12:14 <kapow> I'm not saying you played badly I am saying a pregen is nothing compared to a player made character
12:38 <proquar> i understand... but y'know... i'm still learning about PFS.... and trying to take it all in
12:42 <Mekkis> proquar, when I played fortress of the nail, my wizard hit the end boss with a Phantasmal Killer, and ended the combat in the first round...
12:48 <Avatar> kapow: http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2pfsc?Day-Job-Question#18
12:56 <proquar> heh
13:18 <proquar> it's true i didn't get to prep the spells for this wizard... who had all fire based artillery spells
13:32 <kapow> cool from brock himself
13:41 <kapow> doesn't matter henry now
13:44 <Mekkis> proquar, how high level is your highest-level character?
13:51 <proquar> nearly 3
13:58 <Mekkis> kapow, there is the boon that gives you more dayjob options....
13:59 * proquar ponders the situation
14:00 <Avatar> really
14:12 <Avatar> I thought most of the games you've played are pregens
14:19 <proquar> heh
14:24 <proquar> tabina is nearly level 3 
14:33 <proquar> let's not talk about her audit, because i'll only get sad again
14:40 <proquar> and it's way too late for that now
15:09 <Mekkis> I would run a game tomorrow, but I only have about 100mb of data or so before I get charged at $150/gb
15:15 <proquar> when i was looking on paizo, discovered most of the games have been attributed to her
15:17 <Mekkis> and it'll be the most expensive PFS game ever
15:43 <proquar> i can't play tomorrow (or most saturdays - maybe evening, but unreliably)
15:57 <kapow> net cafe mekkis :P
16:02 <kapow> you won't look that silly!
16:03 <Mekkis> actually
16:07 <Mekkis> that'd be incorrect
16:21 <proquar> go to ballig's place ;)
16:42 <Mekkis> most expensive PFS game would be the one I ran on the 18th :)
16:59 <proquar> gotta early soccer run tomorrow... sleep well!
17:04 <kapow> :P
17:05 <Mekkis> proquar, he's not responding to my messages, and showing up uninvited would be bad
17:15 <kapow> well considering all else you did too mekkis
17:16 <proquar> ahhhhh
17:27 <Mekkis> kapow?
17:38 <proquar> hey kapow, what was the game we were thinking of that we haven't scored up yet?
17:46 * proquar nudges mekkis and kapow
17:52 <proquar> was that the game on the 18th?
18:30 <kapow> I can't even remember proquar
18:35 <kapow> all of it blends together for me
18:43 <proquar> yeah... me too
18:45 * proquar blushes
18:46 <Mekkis> I suppose you'd say that it'd be unfair to say that spending about $1200 to fly over to Singapore, run two games of PFS and play one, meaning that each game cost about $400 each...
18:48 <Mekkis> :P
18:54 <kapow> you didn't just pay that money to run the game :P
19:03 <kapow> you bought stuff too
19:06 <kapow> and went to monkies
19:10 <kapow> and other stuff too
19:19 <kapow> paid to breathe worse air
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19:34 <Mekkis> the SGD8 I needed to pay for the venue for the game on the 18th pushes it slightly higher :S
19:36 <Bloodlust> yo
19:41 <Mekkis> yeah
19:48 <Mekkis> the zoo had a lot of lemurs in it
19:57 <Mekkis> I should have locked mort in there
20:19 <kapow> would of been interesting
20:24 <Mekkis> it would have
20:28 <Avatar> finally prove whether she is one or not
20:34 <kapow> trying to decide what character i want to make next :/
20:43 <Avatar> don't make a touch AC character
20:46 <Mekkis> she cut off her tail
20:50 <kapow> I need to die in tsar :/
21:03 <Avatar> what is tsar
21:05 <Mekkis> kapow, you should do what I did
21:17 <Mekkis> make sure that all your tsar characters are not PFS-legal
21:22 <kapow> i haven't been able to test character's in tsar cause i haven't been dieing
21:39 <kapow> but i like them being pfs legal it gives me an idea of what to make for pfs
21:43 <kapow> before i invest time into it
21:44 <Mekkis> (except for Lucent, who WAS pfs-legal, but was rejected when Flood took one look at him)
21:57 <kapow> :P
22:08 <Mekkis> currently as I see it, the most broken PFS-legal character I've seen
22:13 <kapow> i think the only non legal pfs was my werebear
22:20 <kapow> and that was only because he was a were
22:28 <Wrothmonk> 'Ello
22:40 <kapow> and avatar tsar is a dnd 1st set of books
22:43 <kapow> i think
22:51 <kapow> mekk can explain it better
23:10 <Mekkis> I think one-on-one vs Buck and Henry, he'd win easily
23:19 <Mekkis> two-on-one
24:02 <kapow> yeah but henry isn't done very well :/
24:13 <Mekkis> so, after listening to some symphonic rock, my next character will be an oracle
24:13 <kapow> cause i played him before i was aware of a lot of things in pathfinder
24:19 <kapow> or he would be a lot more powerful
24:28 <Mekkis> sure
24:47 <kapow> I really don't know what to do next nothing at the moment really grabs my attention
25:02 <Mekkis> but I think Lucent would be able to deal with *any* 10th-12th level character you could throw at him
25:04 <kapow> I was thinking of maybe some kind of scythe fighter
25:33 <Mekkis> kapow, scythe druid with animal companion with Butterfly Sting
25:46 <kapow> whats that?
26:33 <Mekkis> When you confirm a critical hit against a creature, you can choose to forgo the effect of the critical hit and grant a critical hit to the next ally who hits the creature with a melee attack before the start of your next turn. Your attack only deals normal damage, and the next ally automatically confirms the hit as a critical.
26:47 <Mekkis> hmmm
26:54 <Mekkis> actually, that's really hard to get
26:59 <Mekkis> int 13 prereq
27:11 <Mekkis> no way an animal companion could get that
27:21 <Mekkis> hey hey Bloodlust 
28:21 <Mekkis> I ran my first PFS game in Canberra last Wednesday
29:20 <Bloodlust> cool
29:36 <Bloodlust> I had the crazy day from hell and missed the game last night :(
29:44 <Mekkis> online?
29:58 <Bloodlust> yup, on here
30:04 <Bloodlust> Mekkis what city are you in?
30:08 <Mekkis> Canberra
30:11 <Mekkis> aren't you?
30:28 <Bloodlust> nope, I'm in Perth
30:36 <Mekkis> oh
30:42 <Mekkis> I mistook you for someone else
30:49 <Bloodlust> lol
30:49 <Mekkis> how is Matthew Pittard?
31:49 <Bloodlust> who?
31:54 <Mekkis> it's nice to start being paid again
32:09 <Mekkis> he runs PFS in perth
32:18 <Mekkis> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/butterfly-s-sting-critical
32:54 <Bloodlust> Thought that was Callum
33:07 <Mekkis> Avatar, I want to start a new "campaign" - basically a 10th-level PFS-legal QQ.
33:18 <Bloodlust> I don't play locally
33:26 <HTT-Bird> Mekkis, 'cheesing out' btw? not familiar with that verbiage
33:32 <kapow> you need 2 people to play mekkis :D
33:35 <kapow> 1 to use that
33:39 <kapow> and then someone with a scythe
33:44 <Mekkis> Defunct had it
33:47 <kapow> so someone with like an improved crit scimitar
33:59 <kapow> and then a scythe wielder
34:33 <Mekkis> the idea was to give it to your animal companion
34:43 <Mekkis> and find one that has a shitton of attacks
35:42 <Mekkis> making a character unnecessarily overpowered
36:14 <Mekkis> hmmm
36:24 <Mekkis> maybe I'll rebuild Defunct again
36:34 <Mekkis> with a scimitar and butterfly sting
36:35 <HTT-Bird> *nods*
36:40 <Mekkis> and all the TWF bs
36:41 <kapow> I was thinking of playing a mammoth rider with shoes of the zeyher and premenancied reduce
37:26 <Mekkis> Bloodlust, you should
38:19 <Bloodlust> why's that?
38:34 <Mekkis> because playing in-person is better than playing online
38:50 <Bloodlust> I had a falling out with Callum and so now I'm "not welcome" locally.
39:16 <Mekkis> damn. fucking politics
39:26 <Bloodlust> I agree with you that in person is much better.  Unfortunately, his group has complete control of games in Perth, so I can only play online now.
39:27 <kapow> mekkis!
39:46 <kapow> would it be possible to play a cavalier/wizard with that dragon idea XP
39:53 <Mekkis> when I started playing PFS, I made the decision not to get involved with the politics. It hasn't completely worked
39:55 <kapow> and ride the dragon as the mount XP?
40:09 <Mekkis> dragon?
40:14 <Bloodlust> We tried to make another group locally.  After our first session when everyone else attended one of his group's games - wouldn't you know it...they all got killed.
40:42 <kapow> lucent's familiar
40:53 <Mekkis> ...is not a dragon
41:13 <kapow> sorry what was it again
41:15 <kapow> bad memory
41:25 <Bloodlust> Gms here take great pleasure in killing off PCs and a TPK is seen as a badge of honour.
41:30 <Mekkis> Callum's the VC over there?
41:38 <Mekkis> a construct
41:41 <Bloodlust> As far as I know he still is.
42:59 <Bloodlust> I even had a dozen people or more email Michael Brock personally to say that I was not the "trouble player" that Callum was saying I was, but at the end of the day, Michael told me that he couldn't do anything and to start my own group.  Look how that turned out.  Everyone was too scared to have another session away from the main group.
43:26 <Mekkis> that's a bit horible
43:52 <Bloodlust> that's the power game that is Perth.
44:23 <Bloodlust> Don't argue, don't speak out of turn, don't question and kiss ass or get your PC killed and/or you get banned.
45:16 <Mekkis> but you can use Form of the Dragon and other cheese if you want
45:36 <kapow> I don't intend to make daniel cry
45:38 <Mekkis> and sure, you could
46:11 <Mekkis> but that particular build sort of requires you to GM credit your way all the way to 10th (or higher, the gains are quadratic)
46:47 <kapow> yeah but i am talking about tsar now here
47:02 <kapow> cause I am getting tired of being the heal bot :/
47:10 <Mekkis> don't do a lucent
47:13 <kapow> though ballig's 2 channels in a round was really cool
47:24 <kapow> and kind of thinking of taking that atleast in the mean time
47:35 <Mekkis> that creature could probably take out the dragon in two turns
50:43 <Mekkis> turn 1: Lucent D-Doors to the dragon (along with another party member), quickened true strike. Followup is bite (standard), grapple (free), pin (swift), tie up (move). Party member applies scythe for a good Coup de grâce.
52:12 <Mekkis> Lucent, being a diviner, has about +13 to initiative and always acts in the surprise round
54:19 <Mekkis> hmmm... the flight for Paizoconoz will be manageable
54:43 <Mekkis> $385
58:25 <HTT-Bird> ouch, poly-ticks!
01:13 <Bloodlust> yup
01:15 <Bloodlust> :)
02:06 <Bloodlust> But I've found lots of nice people to play with online.  Some folks here are still happy to play with me but not if they're going to get a reprisal attack when they play with the main group.  I can understand that so I leave them to it now.
02:06 <Mekkis> fucking CGNs
02:17 <Bloodlust> CGN?
02:38 <Mekkis> my internet keeps cacking out because it's behind a CGN
02:55 <Mekkis> I paid for full IP connectivity, I expect full IP connectivity
02:56 <Bloodlust> ahh okay
03:12 <Bloodlust> Did you get everything I posted above?
03:30 <Mekkis> mostly
04:50 <HTT-Bird> Mekkis, bash your ISP over the head with an IPv6 cluebat
22:47 <Mekkis> heh
24:41 <kapow> not bad
29:42 <Mekkis> HTT-Bird, convince Austnet to do their part
32:42 <kapow> mekkis are there any animal companions that are inteligent enough to use expertise??
21:38 <kapow> mekkis a cavalier, mammoth rider using dual scimitar's and that butterflysting
21:45 <kapow> riding an Ankylosaurus
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46:20 <kapow> so mekkis did you get my pm last night?
46:24 <Mekkis> no
46:32 <kapow> I am either going to make a spirit charge lance weilding cavalier
46:37 <kapow> who rides a tiger
46:48 <kapow> to pounce charge
47:00 <Mekkis> remember the spelling rules regarding the letters 'i' and 'e'?
47:06 <kapow> or a tyransarous riding bow user or scythe weilder
47:14 <kapow> i before e except after c
47:28 <Mekkis> apply them :)
47:32 <kapow> wielding* fingers can't keep up
47:56 <kapow> which do you think should be better :P?
48:06 <kapow> a T-rex with +34 str
48:10 <Mekkis> given that the pounce charge proposal won't work well, and I'm not sure how a cavalier can get a tiger, I'd suggest the latter
48:13 <Brunius> there's hundreds of words that don't follow that rule, and only tens that follow it
48:14 <kapow> or being able to pounce spirited charge
48:28 <Mekkis> Brunius, citation is needed
48:29 <kapow> Archetype
48:58 <kapow> playing cavalier mammoth rider
49:08 <Brunius> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_before_e
49:11 <Mekkis> I mean, if the mount pounces, it needs to charge into melee
49:13 <Brunius> "Some authorities deprecate the rule as having too many exceptions to be worth learning.[2][3][4][5]"
49:15 <kapow> can you surpress a permenancied effect?
49:25 <Mekkis> Brunius, don't cite wikipedia. It is never a reliable source
49:44 <Brunius> Strangely, many math and science articles on wikipedia are fairly reliable
49:49 <Brunius> Nobody cares enough to change it
49:52 <kapow> yeah it pounces which is a charge action that allows it to still full attack
49:59 <kapow> so you as the player have charged correct?
50:01 <boris> ssigh
50:07 <Mekkis> sure, but if you do so in uni, it won't be look good.
50:15 <Mekkis> kapow, different reach lengths for one
50:46 <kapow> not when the huge creature is only large
50:48 <kapow> and you have a lance
51:01 <Mekkis> a large animal almost always has 5' reach
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58:31 <Mekkis> how are you getting a permancied effect in PFS?
59:02 <Mekkis> under most circumstances, it's permanent. It can be dispelled, but not suppressed unless the original spell allows it
02:22 <kapow> this is for tsar
04:32 <Mekkis> what I'm saying is that the 10' reach of the lance will interfere with the 5' reach of the animal
06:29 <kapow> you have to count it from the forward most square of the animal you can't be anywhere in the 4 squares a large creature takes up?
06:42 <Mekkis> I wouldn't allow that
06:52 <Mekkis> also, although the animal is pouncing, the rider isn't
06:55 <kapow> So your saying you have to put the saddle on it's head
07:54 <kapow> so basically you're saying just play the trex
08:15 <Mekkis> if your idea is to get a full-attack at the end of a mounted charge...
08:23 <Mekkis> pounce won't cut it
08:46 <Mekkis> pounce on the animal definitely won't
10:10 <kapow> I don't want a full attack with me
10:14 <Mekkis> otherwise you play a summoner, get Beast Shape somehow, and have your eidolon ride you while wielding as many lances as it can carry
10:17 <kapow> I just want my single charge attack
10:23 <kapow> and the mount to still be able to full attack
10:53 <Mekkis> hmmmm
12:24 <Mekkis> unless the mount had the same reach as you, I wouldn't allow it
13:42 <Mekkis> if you're trying for a mounted lancer, consider the Mounted Combat ranger, which gets to ignore prereqs for &mounted skirmisher
13:52 <diebot> MOUNTED SKIRMISHER [Combat]Prereq:  Ride rank 14, Mounted Combat, Trick Riding.  You are adept at attacking from upon a swift moving steed.
13:53 <diebot> Benefit:  If your mount moves its speed or less, you can still take a full-attack action.
13:53 <diebot> Normal:  If your mount moves more than 5 feet, you can only take an attack action. Source: APG
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19:19 <kapow> thing is outside of cavalier or druid causes the animal companion to dip
20:06 <kapow> and where is this mounted combat ranger in core?
20:11 <Mekkis> APG
20:28 <Mekkis> and Boon Companion is your friend
20:55 <Mekkis> also: Rangers get the Cool Spells
21:02 <Mekkis> like &instant enemy
21:03 <kapow> yeah right boon companion i saw that and ignored it
21:05 <diebot> INSTANT ENEMY enchantment ([]) ranger 3 1 swift action Range: close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels) one creature that is not your favored enemy. Comp: V, S Duration: 1 minute/level Save: none SR:no
21:05 <diebot> With this spell you designate the target as your favored enemy for the remainder of its duration. Select one of your favored enemy types. For the duration of the spell, you treat the target as if it were that type of favored enemy for all purposes.
21:16 <kapow> thing is though is you still loose a lot of stuff going 10 lvls ranger
21:21 <kapow> you get a lot too i suppose
21:22 <Mekkis> you don't loose anything
21:27 <Mekkis> you might lose something
21:37 <kapow> loose +6/+4 str con on the animal companion
21:43 <Mekkis> you don't loose anything
21:46 <kapow> plus a further +2/+2 str con and -2 dex
22:01 <kapow> yes you do because I'm taking mammoth rider prestige at 7-8-9-10
22:10 <Mekkis> no, you don't
22:28 <kapow> okay why not?
22:34 <Mekkis> loose is very rarely used as a verb
23:08 <kapow> helpful mekkis helpful
23:45 <Mekkis> you can't take mammoth rider until 10th level anyway
24:48 <Mekkis> prerequesites require 9 ranks of ride
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25:43 <kapow> blahh yeah fuck the reduced requirements don't apply to tsar
25:58 <Mekkis> reduced requirements?
26:18 <kapow> -3 to skill requirement
26:32 <Mekkis> what?
26:35 <Mekkis> where does it say that
26:44 <Mekkis> that's only for 3.5e conversions, right?
29:27 <kapow> yeah okay well on a side note still loosing a +2/-2/+2 to the animal companion
29:34 <kapow> and it can't be huge
30:59 <Mekkis> how do you loose an animal companion?
31:05 <Mekkis> don't you mean "let loose"?
31:40 <Mekkis> the +2/-2/+2 isn't that big a deal
31:44 <Mekkis> !spell Animal Growth
31:49 <diebot> Mekkis, ANIMAL GROWTH transmutation ([]) druid 5, ranger 4, sorcerer/wizard 5 1 standard action Range: medium (100 ft. + 10 ft./level) one animal (Gargantuan or smaller) Comp: V, S Duration: 1 min./level Save: Fortitude negates SR:yes
31:49 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/animal_growth.html
32:24 <kapow> it's a benefit from beast rider cavalier archetype
33:28 <Mekkis> sorry, the spelling error that annoys me the most is the misspelling of "lose"
34:13 <kapow> lose
34:14 <kapow> lose
34:54 <Mekkis> hmmm
35:01 <Mekkis> druid 9 / beast rider 1
35:05 <Mekkis> huge animal
35:13 <Mekkis> use animal growth to make it gargantuan
35:14 <Mekkis> :)
36:13 <Mekkis> what's a good deity for a heavens oracle to worship
48:25 <boris> thinken about beomig an alcohlic
51:51 <Mekkis> don't
53:44 <boris> y
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54:45 <Mekkis> because you can't spell straight while sober
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55:19 <boris> mabe alcohle will turn me into a genius
55:30 <Mekkis> it won't
55:36 <boris> o :(
25:33 <boris> :)
28:44 <Mekkis> I've been wasting a lot of time reading http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/1983:_Doomsday
39:06 <Wrothmonk> if only my history was much better I could probably understand more of that.
40:51 <Mekkis> the premise is sound
41:03 <Mekkis> you know about the whole cold war stuff, right, Wrothmonk?
41:17 <Wrothmonk> Yes.
41:27 <Wrothmonk> but very few specific events.
41:39 <Mekkis> it's basically, how would the world be today if the nukes went off in 1983
41:50 <Wrothmonk> Yup, I got that.
42:08 <Mekkis> first question: Would you be alive?
42:21 <Mekkis> second question: Would you be where you are now?
43:28 <Mekkis> (where were you or your parents on 26 september 1983?)
44:36 <Wrothmonk> Yeah, my parents would probably be dead. Both in the US.
45:45 <Mekkis> my parents were in Adelaide at that time
46:32 <Wrothmonk> ah here we go...
46:34 <Mekkis> http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/Doomsday_(1983:_Doomsday)#United_States
46:54 <Wrothmonk> I was having problems finding the proper point in the timeline to start reading events.
47:09 <Mekkis> September 26 1983
49:19 <Brunius> Huh
49:23 <Brunius> My parents would have survived
49:32 <Wrothmonk> Hrm. They may or may not have survived. I'm not exactly sure on the locations they were at exactly.
50:01 <Mekkis> would they have survived the aftermath?
50:03 <Mekkis> Brunius?
50:15 <Brunius> Just looking through it now
51:28 <Mekkis> http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/Salyut_7_Crisis_(1983:_Doomsday) was a particularly interesting article
59:51 <Mekkis> strange: Cuba survived
00:19 <Brunius> huh
00:41 <Mekkis> turns out the US plans didn't involve nuking cuba too much
01:16 <Mekkis> and much of its military commanders were overseas
01:49 <Mekkis> http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/Kola_Grande_%281983:_Doomsday%29
01:50 <Mekkis> heh
02:01 <Mekkis> "The production of Kola Grande started in 2008, after a Cuban scouting party discovered the formula for Coca-Cola in the ruins of Atlanta in 2007"
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09:39 <Mekkis> I should contribute and add that coffee IS grown in Australia...
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29:10 <Brunius> "The new millennium begins without any large festivals as apparently no one could enjoy firing rockets to the sky. A vast majority of the post-Doomsday survivors are still scrabbling for survival. "
31:13 <Mekkis> fair enough
32:17 <Mekkis> Brunius, for more fun, try an correlate events with http://olduse.net/
32:41 <Mekkis> they reach the Point of Divergence in about 50 days
34:01 <Mekkis> http://article.olduse.net/[email protected]
34:03 <Mekkis> hehe
34:19 <Mekkis> So despite all the hairy hardware, I guess my choice is a (more
34:19 <Mekkis> reliable than current) mouse and a tablet.  Does anyone know what the
34:19 <Mekkis> best tablet on the market is?
42:36 <boris> hehe
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44:58 <diebot> Ah dicebot, my longtime comrade, is back!
46:47 <HTT-Bird> Wrothmonk, quick question on the NWN platinum edition: does that include the DM client etal?
47:02 <Brunius> Who are you, comrade question?
47:18 <Mekkis> what?
47:40 <Wrothmonk> I'm probably not the one to ask since I dont play neverwinter nights.
47:51 <HTT-Bird> ah
48:06 <Wrothmonk> Try steven, I think he plays.
48:16 <HTT-Bird> ah.
48:17 <Wrothmonk> or google :P
48:28 <HTT-Bird> :P
50:11 <HTT-Bird> on a different note...it sees that my strategy for assigning traits to chars RPwise either leads to total patheticness (i.e. a char whose persona drives them to be easily scared and perpetually naive), or to something that has an inevitable destination of OPness (intelligent enough to self-optimize, and resolute/persistent enough to figure out how to beat you basically no matter what it takes) 
51:09 <Wrothmonk> I have a ranger like that.
51:24 <Wrothmonk> He just carries around every DR material short sword.
52:37 <HTT-Bird> haha, RPwise, how is his ability to dispose of well, whatever he comes across counterbalanced?
53:06 <Wrothmonk> Being able to get the right sword out? :P
53:22 <HTT-Bird> xP I mean, on a more global scale
53:37 <Wrothmonk> Hrm... well he isnt to intelligent. 
54:11 <Wrothmonk> or charismatic
54:18 <Wrothmonk> 9 int 7 cha
54:24 <HTT-Bird> the problem I have with my strong chars is that they wind up in a position where people a) aren't really willing to invest the effort needed to beat the char in question straight-up and b) generally don't go the places that'd be needed to beat that char via treachery/cleverness
54:33 <HTT-Bird> and yeah, my version is intelligent, but lacking in cha
54:48 <HTT-Bird> (and social skills >.>)
54:57 <Wrothmonk> so a geek? :P
55:26 <HTT-Bird> in a way, yes xD
56:08 <Brunius> Avatar, are you around?
56:10 <HTT-Bird> its just that she's a survivalism/spellcasting geek
56:26 <Wrothmonk> Apocolypse DND geek then.
56:28 <Mekkis> why do you want Avatar?
56:36 <Mekkis> you're not providing much context, Brunius 
56:45 <HTT-Bird> xD after a matter of sorts
56:49 <diebot> Has the big B finally flipped?
56:52 <Wrothmonk> Apocalypse 
56:58 <Brunius> Avatar owes me a chronicle sheet
57:05 <Mekkis> what aj erk
57:10 <Mekkis> do you need is soon?
57:11 <Brunius> indeed
57:14 <Brunius> probably not
57:17 <Mekkis> s/is/it/
57:21 <Mekkis> then don't hassle him
57:34 <Mekkis> instead go up for Paizoconoz
58:03 <HTT-Bird> but yeah, it seems like I don't know how to make a 'balanced' char in a RP sense, at least from the viewpoint of raw power
58:03 <Brunius> It's what $350 in flights for you?
58:09 <Mekkis> yeah
58:12 <Mekkis> probably less for you
58:36 <Brunius> Higher frequency flights?
58:41 <Wrothmonk> well I gtg, brb in ~45 min
58:51 <Mekkis> you don't need to pay the "canberra surcharge"
59:09 <Brunius> Oh, everyone in Canberra is rich?
59:14 <Brunius> Discriminatory pricing?
59:39 <Mekkis> that has something to do with it
59:44 <Mekkis> also: no Tiger or Jetstar
59:57 <Brunius> I've flown Tiger into Canberra before
00:02 <Mekkis> also: a lot of the planes are turboprops
00:29 <Brunius> Although that was before their whole grounding thing
01:00 <Mekkis> Brunius, for you to get to and from Melbourne, the cheapest is $145 return....
01:16 <Mekkis> (tiger, no baggage, leaving Thursday, returning Monday)
02:36 <Mekkis> Brunius, last time I needed to get to Canberra from Melbourne, I took the bus - $45 or so.
02:57 <Brunius> And 10 hours wasted?
03:08 <Mekkis> not wasted
03:22 <Mekkis> I managed to run everyone through their WotW training
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31:20 <Wrothmonk> I'm back, the portal will open in 3... 2...
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23:03 <Maestro> Hello again, folks.
24:34 <Adrian> Hey there
25:14 <Maestro> The courthouse admin wing was closed due to budget cuts, so it looks like I'll be putting in for that marriage certificate next week x-x
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28:15 <Adrian> *sniffs* Mmm, smells like Government!
28:21 <Adrian> :P
44:41 <Maestro> Right?
45:23 <Maestro> I'd complain about living in America but I'm too busy drinking clean water from the tap.
48:29 <HTT-Bird> Wrothmonk, wb
48:46 <HTT-Bird> so...what suggestions do you have as to character balancing?
53:14 <Blasticka> Maestro! isn't that a title not a name?
56:02 <Maestro> It can be.
56:08 <Maestro> And typically is
56:14 <Blasticka> unless of course you were THE maestro
56:21 <Blasticka> which would be cool. and a bit creepy
56:26 <Maestro> I've been referred to as such :P
56:35 <Blasticka> oh noes! everyone run for the hills
56:44 <Maestro> :P
57:00 <Blasticka> oh wait, I live in the hills. so I guess I'll just stay put
57:21 <Maestro> Have we met before or are we just being goofy about my handle? I use this in multiple social circles so I don't know which is happening right now
57:34 <Blasticka> I'm just a goofy person
57:43 <Blasticka> and now we have met I'm Blasticka
57:45 <Brunius> It's true
57:56 <Blasticka> I'm the one always bugging the gm's for pickup games
58:17 <Blasticka> but me and the wife caught some food poisoning and have been stuck at home the last week or so.
59:49 <Blasticka> How did the game go earlier Brunius? were you involved?
59:55 <Brunius> Which game?
00:05 <Blasticka> maybe it was yesterday...
00:21 <Brunius> the one last night...well, we didn't die
00:21 <Blasticka> coulda sworn it was a saturday game that started this morning
00:34 <Brunius> there was a game of wotw that didn't end up going ahead
00:35 <Avatar> what do you mean character balancing
00:53 <Blasticka> ah I see. tell me about the near death game. sounds interesting. :-)
01:11 <Brunius> Ah, just a super tough end boss
01:27 <Brunius> Luckily, alchemists are friggen' crazy
01:51 <Blasticka> too much mercury absorption mmhmm. *nods sagely*
02:38 <Maestro> A pleasure to meet you ^_^
03:07 <Wrothmonk> He means RP wise so they aren't mary sues.
03:10 <Maestro> Are we discussing the game we were playing… 24 hours ago?
03:20 <Brunius> seems like
03:20 <Blasticka> *GASP* you are the crazy alchemist??
03:31 <Maestro> That alchemist sure helped us :3
03:49 <Mekkis> HTT-Bird, in PFS, I suggest berating those players who insist on cheesing out their characters
03:50 <Maestro> I was trying to keep up with my pregen gunslinger
04:06 <Wrothmonk> How did I know you were going to say that mekkis.
04:11 <Blasticka> was it your first ever game Maestro?
04:22 <Maestro> No, but I don't have any characters above level 1
04:24 <Mekkis> remember, the only difference between a cheesed-out character and a balanced character is how people react when they die.
04:42 <Maestro> I had a level 2 monk back when I was driving into Seattle to play every weekend, but he died in a one-hit-crit from a Yeti.
04:43 <Wrothmonk> the different reactions being?
04:44 <Blasticka> I have a lvl 1 fighter and a level 2 sorcerer. I've just started with pathfinder as well
05:02 <Maestro> For some reason I got tired of driving four hours a weekend just to have my monk die and my gas tank empty
05:12 <Mekkis> "Finally we're rid of that jerk" vs "It's a real pity that your character died"
05:30 <Maestro> I used to play DnD 3.5 so when I got back from Afghanistan and heard about Pathfinder I was pretty excited.
05:32 <Blasticka> I find this online site is pretty rewarding. I've played I think 5 games and enjoyed them all
05:41 <Maestro> I like the players in this group
05:49 <Maestro> Very friendly and sociable.
05:55 <Maestro> Well, for Pathfinder gamers :P
06:53 <Blasticka> my wife plays with us too so I have to censor the guys occasionally, but it's pretty good unless Steven has had one of his pain med things lol
06:58 <Blasticka> that was so funny
07:43 <Mekkis> I wish I was allowed to give out the Golden Parachute boon
07:49 <Wrothmonk> ?
07:55 <Wrothmonk> what would that do.
08:02 <Mekkis> 57XP.
09:03 <Wrothmonk> well, thats one way of getting high level without as much gold.
09:03 <Blasticka> afk a moment
09:14 <Mekkis> no
09:22 <Mekkis> it's a way of forcing a character into retirement.
09:31 <Wrothmonk> Ah
09:35 <Wrothmonk> oh I see
15:50 <Maestro> I've tried some of the US-based online groups but they're pretty anti-social.
16:10 <Maestro> Normally you'd have to censor me (too much time being a grunt) but I clam up on the microphone unless it's combat.
16:18 <Maestro> ^_^" I suppose I'm a little introverted
16:45 <Maestro> If I go quiet it's 'cause I'm being a nerd and playing Final Fantasy 14
17:04 <Blasticka> is that game any good?
17:31 <Blasticka> I've been playing neverwinter and it's great battle but meh everything else
18:40 <Brunius> Maestro, there are no nerds in here
18:57 <Blasticka> only masters of the universe!
18:58 <Brunius> As I was told when I first joined here (I was amazed Mekkis knew what linux was), this is a channel full of nerds.
19:23 <Blasticka> I know what it is. and C++ and all that jazz. can't use it. but I know what it is
19:51 <Blasticka> 0's and 1's! for the win.
20:30 <Bloodlust> yo
21:13 <Maestro> ^_^
21:40 <Maestro> I'm the least computer-literate of all, I suspect.
21:41 <Blasticka> ahhh. 14 isn't an online one thats for the ps3
21:51 <Maestro> 14 is the MMO they're re-releasing.
21:53 <Maestro> I'm beta testing.
22:14 <Maestro> It's coming out on PC, PS3, PS4… and probably an Xbox eventually
23:09 <Blasticka> well, is it any good? or are you even allowed to talk about it in beta?
23:22 <Wrothmonk> 'Ello
24:01 <Adrian> I think FF14 is under NDA if you're in it. But pretty much everything leaks its way out there when the public play ;P
24:27 <Blasticka> hey look it's rocky's wife. :-P
24:30 <Blasticka> howdy
24:42 <Blasticka> sorry I'm sure you hear that awful joke all the time.
24:43 <Adrian> Hey
24:48 <Adrian> Yeah a few times haha
25:06 <Blasticka> alll your friends getting drunk and standing up and yelling, aaaadddrrriiiaaaannnn
25:27 <Blasticka> we almost have enough people for a game
25:45 <Brunius> not at this time of night
25:47 <Blasticka> *gets a devious look to his scheming eyes* oooohhhhh Brunius?
25:56 <Brunius> BAM
25:57 <Brunius> PREEMPTED
25:58 <Blasticka> dang his initiative was higher
26:09 * Brunius does a victory dance
26:09 <Blasticka> if only I'd gotten to go first!
26:53 <Blasticka> Yeah I was hoping this neverwinter game would be the one for me
27:01 <Blasticka> but it's just a bit too easy
27:17 <Blasticka> like DDO online on super easy mode
27:52 <Maestro> It's moved on to open beta now
28:00 <Maestro> And I'm enjoying it
28:10 <Adrian> As a game producer I'm playing all sorts of RPGs and taking notes of stuff rofl. Played so many games I never thought I'd ever play. lol:p
28:16 <Mekkis> hey hey Bloodlust 
28:27 <Blasticka> ooh cool
28:43 <Blasticka> what are the top three rpgs online you've played and enjoyed in the last couple months
28:49 <Blasticka> I'm always on the lookout for a good rpg
29:02 <Blasticka> ragnarok 2 was just. sad.
29:08 <Maestro> Online RPGs? Other than this one I haven't seen much
29:15 <Adrian> Hmm, haven't played too many online RPGs to be honest... mechanically Neverwinter is interesting, but that's about it.
29:16 <Mekkis> I ran my first PFS game in Canberra last Wednesday
29:27 <Adrian> Still have to play FF14, dev friends got me in on the beta but haven't touched it.
29:29 <Maestro> DC Universe Online was a good idle pursuit, but only if I didn't have anything better to do
29:53 <Maestro> I was unimpressed with Neverwinter
30:06 <Blasticka> I spent 5 years playing DDO online before they ruined it opening it and making it free to play.
30:14 <Bloodlust> cool
30:15 <Blasticka> so for me the bar has always been set pretty high
30:23 <Adrian> Dat business model :p
30:25 <Maestro> Neverwinter's worst move was applying a D&D name to it.
30:30 <Bloodlust> I had the crazy day from hell and missed the game last night :(
30:34 <Maestro> I LOVED DDO so much
30:36 <Adrian> lol probably
30:39 <Mekkis> online?
30:51 <Bloodlust> yup, on here
30:54 <Maestro> And then one day I came back and logged back on and went "whoa… everything sucks. And where is all my stuff?"
30:58 <Bloodlust> Mekkis what city are you in?
31:02 <Mekkis> Canberra
31:06 <Mekkis> aren't you?
31:22 <Bloodlust> nope, I'm in Perth
31:26 <Maestro> Actually no, I can't log in to my old account. Turbine can't seem to find it.
31:30 <Mekkis> oh
31:37 <Mekkis> I mistook you for someone else
31:37 <Brunius> Classic Turbine
31:43 <Bloodlust> lol
31:43 <Blasticka> DDO was so cool. but I played it too much. so I'm kinda glad that stage of my life is done.
31:44 <Mekkis> how is Matthew Pittard?
31:48 <Adrian> yeah stuff gets nuts when business happens
31:52 <Maestro> That game had SOOOO much potential
32:37 <Adrian> Yeah I played that game a ton when it came out.
32:43 <Bloodlust> who?
32:49 <Blasticka> I had this guru in my guild
33:01 <Blasticka> he's still playing. taking on 6 man dungeons all by himself
33:03 <Mekkis> he runs PFS in perth
33:11 <Blasticka> cause he got sick of carrying soul stones
33:22 <Blasticka> he helped me build some awesome characters
33:43 <Maestro> My fiancé and I are planning on turning Final Fantasy 14 into our MMO of choice for a couple of years.
33:47 <Bloodlust> Thought that was Callum
33:58 <Brunius> Where's wroth, gorram it
34:00 <Maestro> We wanted to go for Elder Scrolls but we're slowly moving our video gaming solely onto the consoles and using our computers for work.
34:11 <Bloodlust> I don't play locally
34:12 <Blasticka> I'd play it if it was online in pc
34:20 <HTT-Bird> Mekkis, 'cheesing out' btw? not familiar with that verbiage
34:21 <Blasticka> but I don't own any consoles except for my 3dS
34:26 <Maestro> Well Elder Scrolls *IS* making an MMO
34:29 <Brunius> lele pc gaming master race
34:34 <Maestro> But it's PC/Mac only and my Mac is… getting old.
34:37 <Blasticka> skyrim is pretty good
34:46 <Blasticka> easy to kill stuff though if you have stealth
34:50 <Maestro> Basically I can't keep up with updating PCs and drivers and graphics cards and processors and blah.
34:58 <Maestro> And now that consoles are lasting ten years
35:03 <Maestro> Just makes more sense to game on those.
35:11 <Adrian> SP RPGs are so much better to balance though. We're in early prototyping and balancing is a pain already lol
35:18 <Maestro> SP?
35:27 <Maestro> Single player
35:29 <Maestro> Sorry, brain fart
35:53 <Maestro> I've always heavily preferred single player RPGs (just seems to let you focus more on plot and character depth)
36:14 <Blasticka> my all time favorite was of course, FF 7. also liked 8
36:19 <Adrian> Yeah single player lol
36:28 <Maestro> Just trying to branch out into online. My fiancé thinks that it's cute that I'm so charmingly grizzled and anti-social in person, but I figure I should teach myself to get along with people since I'm a civilian again
36:41 <Maestro> FF7 and 8 were amazing.
36:45 <Mekkis> making a character unnecessarily overpowered
36:49 <Brunius> You're ex-service?
37:08 <Maestro> Whittling away the last of my paid vacation until my college lessons begin
37:10 <Adrian> Well that's how I got into games like PF and DND a couple of weeks ago. A couple of devs on the team recommended it, and given I'm a pretty anti-social guy, I thought I'd give it a shot.
37:19 <Blasticka> well this is a good place to start. most of the people on here are a lot of fun
37:28 <HTT-Bird> *nods*
37:33 <Maestro> I used to be extremely social. I was born a natural extrovert.
37:40 <Maestro> And just sort-of became more withdrawn through the years.
38:20 <Mekkis> Bloodlust, you should
38:41 <Blasticka> it can happen. but it's not permanent by any means
38:49 <Blasticka> I was and am the same way i go through cycles
39:13 <Bloodlust> why's that?
39:29 <Mekkis> because playing in-person is better than playing online
39:30 <Brunius> through all of primary school I was (I guess) an introvery, because most of the kids were dicks
39:44 <Bloodlust> I had a falling out with Callum and so now I'm "not welcome" locally.
40:15 <Mekkis> damn. fucking politics
40:20 <Bloodlust> I agree with you that in person is much better.  Unfortunately, his group has complete control of games in Perth, so I can only play online now.
40:48 <Mekkis> when I started playing PFS, I made the decision not to get involved with the politics. It hasn't completely worked
40:49 <Adrian> I was extroverted during primary, and secondary screwed me over with assholes, so that sort of formed me to be the anti-social guy that I am.
41:08 <Bloodlust> We tried to make another group locally.  After our first session when everyone else attended one of his group's games - wouldn't you know it...they all got killed.
41:39 <Blasticka> I was just too sensitive for public school.
42:00 <Blasticka> wasn't until junior and senior year I made any kind of headway in finding a place for myself.
42:19 <Bloodlust> Gms here take great pleasure in killing off PCs and a TPK is seen as a badge of honour.
42:25 <Mekkis> Callum's the VC over there?
42:35 <Bloodlust> As far as I know he still is.
43:45 <Blasticka> cool thing is when you grow up, you choose your spouse, you choose your friends.
43:53 <Bloodlust> I even had a dozen people or more email Michael Brock personally to say that I was not the "trouble player" that Callum was saying I was, but at the end of the day, Michael told me that he couldn't do anything and to start my own group.  Look how that turned out.  Everyone was too scared to have another session away from the main group.
44:04 <Blasticka> rather than being tossed in a pool of sharks with a leg cut off and told to swim out of there.
44:11 <Adrian> Yeah
44:20 <Mekkis> that's a bit horible
44:39 <Adrian> Thankfully the industry I started working in (games journalism) was so welcoming and friendly. Made a ton of friends.
44:44 <Bloodlust> that's the power game that is Perth.
45:17 <Bloodlust> Don't argue, don't speak out of turn, don't question and kiss ass or get your PC killed and/or you get banned.
46:22 <Maestro> Same here.
47:14 <Maestro> With… basically all that's been said.
47:22 <Blasticka> I don't have tons of friends in person, but I have some high quality ones.
47:53 <Maestro> I dunno how my fiancé eve tolerates me but apparently I'm perfect so...
48:07 <Maestro> I'd alway suspected I as perfect, though. Damned convenient to have it confirmed.
48:13 <Blasticka> that's called the rose colored glasses stage
48:36 <Blasticka> those glasses do come off, and the annoyances creep in. but by then you love them enough it doesn't matter.
48:57 <Blasticka> at least i don't mind my wife eating crunchy chips in my ear so much anymore. much.
49:02 <Blasticka> so noisy!
54:07 <Adrian> So bored this weekend lol :P
54:28 <Maestro> Heh, we've had our share of gripes
54:58 <Maestro> Like when I putz with him while he's trying to play that silly League of Legends
56:07 <Blasticka> silly! league of legends!
56:12 <Blasticka> *gasp*
56:24 <Mekkis> I was an introvert, before I started PFS
56:27 <Brunius> It's true
56:33 <Brunius> (About LOL)
56:49 <Maestro> Everyone seems so aggressive on that game.
56:55 <Blasticka> I haven't played much recently but i do love using gangplank to parrley someone in the face.
57:00 <Blasticka> they are.
57:04 <Blasticka> I am. somtimes.
57:10 <Maestro> Ooh, that was a gripe.
57:21 <Maestro> Whenever he was done playing League of Legends he'd go onto YouTube and watch other people play it.
57:27 <Maestro> With some announcer in the background.
57:37 <Maestro> Or he'd watch people recording themselves playing LoL.
57:55 <Maestro> And listening to people talk to themselves while playing a video game was… not only a weird waste of time, but frightfully annoying
58:17 <Blasticka> I've done that a couple times, to watch the pro players play to get better.
58:33 <Maestro> To this day I can't come to terms with the idea that someone is making a living playing these games.
58:50 <Maestro> I didn't even understand it with Magic: The Gathering.
58:55 <Blasticka> if there is a market for something, people will make a living doing it.
59:01 <Maestro> And that was before that game turned into nothing more than a game of who can buy more cards than you
59:09 <HTT-Bird> ouch, poly-ticks!
59:27 <Mekkis> Maestro, once you realise that they're in the 10^-6% or so, it makes more sense
59:52 <Brunius> I don't think anybody /actually/ makes a living playing video games
00:17 <Mekkis> Brunius, there are one or two MtG players who get approx 100k a year out of MtG
00:37 <Mekkis> and it'd be naive to think it wouldn't be the same for other games
01:03 <Blasticka> well, back in my (shamed to say) yugioh days
01:12 <Mekkis> but the total number would be 1 in 10 million to one in 100 million.
01:13 <Blasticka> i was pretty good. went the judging route
01:35 <Mekkis> if it's anything like MtG, then you weren't *that* good :S
01:42 <Blasticka> the sneaky thing yugioh did was not have cash tournaments
01:52 <Blasticka> they paid their people in cards
01:58 <Blasticka> to keep the cycle going
02:07 <Bloodlust> yup
02:09 <Bloodlust> :)
02:26 <Blasticka> I was competetive with the top players in our state.
02:33 <Blasticka> probably not regionally though
02:39 <Brunius> SA, not saying too much :P
02:58 <Blasticka> no that was Portland oregon back in the day
02:59 <Bloodlust> But I've found lots of nice people to play with online.  Some folks here are still happy to play with me but not if they're going to get a reprisal attack when they play with the main group.  I can understand that so I leave them to it now.
03:02 <Mekkis> fucking CGNs
03:09 <Blasticka> haven't played  yugioh in a long time
03:09 <Mekkis> If you judge, it means you're not really in the running for playing really hardcore
03:10 <Bloodlust> CGN?
03:29 <Mekkis> (that's what I've found in MtG at least)
03:33 <Mekkis> my internet keeps cacking out because it's behind a CGN
03:44 <Blasticka> I got more cards for judging. couldn't afford boxes, and it gave me more time to trade.
03:49 <Mekkis> I paid for full IP connectivity, I expect full IP connectivity
03:50 <Bloodlust> ahh okay
04:05 <Bloodlust> Did you get everything I posted above?
04:24 <Mekkis> mostly
04:34 <Adrian> Brunius: If you make content out of playing games, with a little bit of luck,you can certainly make a living off of it
04:35 <Mekkis> sure, I can do pretty well in a draft or an FNM or whatever, but at the end of the day, that $15000 cash tournament in Sydney I'm attending, I'm in the black uniform, judging.
04:40 <Blasticka> anyway. I think yugioh is  bad game
05:01 <Mekkis> I think any RTS Blizzard has made so far is a bad game
05:17 <Mekkis> actually, remove the RTS qualifier.
05:27 <Blasticka> awww. warcraft 3 was pretty good in my opinion.
05:34 <Blasticka> had a decent story
05:41 <HTT-Bird> Mekkis, bash your ISP over the head with an IPv6 cluebat
05:47 <Mekkis> unfortunately, my view is not shared by a large number of other gamers.
05:53 <Mekkis> Sure, their stories aren't bad
06:15 <Mekkis> but they seem to equate "able to handle a shitty UI" with "being a good player"
07:24 <Maestro> I shouldn't be so surprised when you think about it
07:48 <Maestro> How is the idea of making a living playing a card game or a video game so much more different than the vast sums of money we pay people to throw a basketball into a hoop?
08:17 <Blasticka> well, my profession is a massage therapist.
08:20 <Mekkis> it isn't really.
08:46 <Blasticka> and let me tell you. some of the amounts of money people gave me over and above the 60 per hour they paid, was a little insane.
08:51 <Blasticka> some people just have lots of money
09:25 <Mekkis> I used to go for massages every month or so. It's worth it.
10:16 <Blasticka> yeah. if you can find an lmt you trust and who has the skills, it's so worth it
10:57 <Blasticka> but I would say, you people who make games, and run pathfinder, are a lifesaver, because that's my relaxation and recreation. and I enjoy it tons.
11:20 <Blasticka> so I suppose it all goes around in some big circle that's too big for us to see.
11:35 <Mekkis> we call it "the economy"...
14:31 * Maestro shivers and does a cross
14:51 <Mekkis> hey, it's not That Bad...
14:56 <Blasticka> ahhhh so that's what happened with the great depression. it was just a flat tire in the great wheel of economy!
15:04 <Mekkis> especially not in Australia
15:24 <Maestro> Aww, poor Winston… he's our pet rabbit and this is normally his witching hour, but he's been hiding inside his home ever since I gave him his monthly flea & mite treatment.
15:55 <Maestro> Poor guy probably hates me for… however long he's capable of remembering past events.
16:11 <Blasticka> get him a carrot
16:19 <Blasticka> they are orange and shiny
16:29 <Maestro> Meh. Rabbits like carrot tops. They only eat the carrot if they feel like it.
16:54 <Maestro> He goes NUTS for papaya. And Fiber One
16:55 <Blasticka> you know what is sad? the 3 of you distracted is a more stimulating conversation than my entire 413 person guild chat on neverwinter
17:10 <Maestro> :P
17:16 <Maestro> I'm up all night because..
17:23 <Maestro> Well because I stayed up all night yesterday to play Pathfinder on here :P
17:29 <Maestro> So now my sleep pattern is back to being nocturnal.
17:42 <Mekkis> Neverwinter the MMO?
17:56 <Blasticka> yes neverwinter the mmo.
17:57 <Maestro> Yup
18:10 <Blasticka> I like some of the battle mechanics and skills
18:11 <Maestro> I think I could have gotten into that game if they had called it anything else.
18:22 <Blasticka> but everything else was, meh
18:23 <Maestro> I logged in there expecting a dungeon crawl :P
18:33 <Blasticka> I was hoping for one myself
19:02 <Maestro> I started up a spell caster and started spamming that little spinning disc for a while and then figured I was bored.
19:36 <Mekkis> Online chat and gaming: disrupting sleep cycles since 1971
19:42 <Maestro> My fiancé and I also run Pathfinder at our home every weekend. We've been working on Rise of the Runelords.
19:55 <Maestro> Problem is, like I said, we're up in the mountains with, like, nobody. Except a few… friends.
20:01 <Maestro> Who aren't the best at organizing their schedule.
20:14 <Maestro> Mekkis: +1
20:20 <Mekkis> yeah. A level of commitment is required
20:42 <Mekkis> (I'm referring to, of course, Empire, which is still being played today.)
21:10 <Brunius> We never got that started in here, did we
21:14 <Mekkis> nope
22:04 <Mekkis> it's learning curve is a step response
22:47 <Maestro> It's hard for me to wrap my head around the fact that when she was my age, my mom was staying up all night spending all of her money on a dial-up connection and EverQuest or Ultima
23:01 <Blasticka> my mom reads books.
23:05 <Blasticka> I used to read books.
23:07 <Mekkis> is Neverwinter considerably better than Other MMOs?
23:08 <Blasticka> then we got a computer
23:19 <Mekkis> my mum is a programmer.
23:30 <Blasticka> so far, if you are looking for an online free one
23:33 <Mekkis> her dad was a programmer.
23:34 <Maestro> Blasticka seems to enjoy the combat mechanics.
23:37 <Blasticka> it's the best i've found
23:42 <Mekkis> I am a programmer....
23:43 <Mekkis> :S
23:45 <Mekkis> heh
23:46 <Blasticka> but I am definitely still looking
23:54 <Maestro> I was unimpressed but anything that dares put on a D&D affiliated name on its title is going to have high standards with me.
23:58 <Maestro> Not with graphics, or even gameplay
24:01 <Blasticka> well the combat mechanics are fun, at least for a rogue
24:02 <Maestro> Just with getting it right.
24:11 <Blasticka> they did not get it right
24:13 <Mekkis> Maestro, heard about 4e?
24:20 <Blasticka> but they teased me
24:39 <Blasticka> I was like, if the boss monsters required a cleric to beat this could be fun
24:48 <Maestro> I left D&D when 4E came out
24:53 <Mekkis> my boxes available to me run linux with an intel card
25:00 <Adrian> I'm probably one of the few people that really like 4e :P
25:08 <Mekkis> I was very impressed with NWN2...
25:20 <Mekkis> they did a lot of stuff right there
25:20 <Blasticka> hmmm. I might have to check out 4E. is it a pc game?
25:35 <Mekkis> Blasticka, want to buy my core books?
25:37 <Maestro> Mekkis: we were discussing the Neverwinter MMO 
25:42 <Mekkis> only used like once
25:47 <Maestro> Everyone loves Neverwinter Nights :P
25:51 <Mekkis> Maestro, I know
25:59 <Mekkis> how much like NWN is it?
26:05 <Maestro> It's not.
26:15 <Maestro> That's why I was disappointed, really
26:23 <Blasticka> I already bought a couple pdf's, our budget is kinda shot for this month. but maybe after the 23rd of this month we can talk about it.
26:43 <Mekkis> what state are you in, Blasticka 
26:53 <Blasticka> Southern Australia
27:00 <Mekkis> ok
28:43 <Blasticka> it really depends on our gm matt, he wants a book and might have bought one, he likes the hardcopy pictures lol
30:43 <Mekkis> HTT-Bird, convince Austnet to do their part
31:15 <Maestro> It's taken me a while to adjust from my old style of drawing up a character (sitting on the bed/floor with six books and a spiral notebook sprawled out in front of me while I cross-reference feats and skills)
31:23 <Maestro> To how I do it now (all of that, but on my computer)
34:33 <Blasticka> mekkis, are there any good games that you have been a part of that you can reccomend for me to try?
35:23 <Mekkis> what do you mean Blasticka?
35:49 <Mekkis> online? offline? RPG? board? card? 
36:11 <Blasticka> I'd prefer something online PC that's easiest for me
36:16 <Blasticka> but open to whatever I suppose
37:03 <Mekkis> I liked C&C Renegade, played it for three or four years, but it's pretty dead now unfortunately
37:45 <Mekkis> Spring is a good example of a good RTS
37:52 <Maestro> When in doubt, do what I do. Pull out that credit card, go on to gog.com and get nostalgic
38:10 <Maestro> I'm still working through Geneforge
38:15 <Mekkis> Maestro, when in doubt, I go open source
38:17 <Mekkis> so... 
38:28 <Maestro> Fair enough :P
38:33 <Mekkis> my List of Good Games is something like:
39:58 <Mekkis> Descent: Freespace, Freespace 2, Command And Conquer (v1.07), Nethack, NWN2, uplink
40:06 <Blasticka> dun dun dun the suspense is killing me
40:26 <Blasticka> I never got to play nWN2 because steam took it down
40:34 * Maestro goes AFK to grab some bok choy for Winston
40:38 <Mekkis> why would you get it on steam?
41:14 <Blasticka> because my friend had it on steam and we were going to play together
41:15 <Maestro> They have impressive sales
41:41 <Mekkis> sure, but not as impressive as gog (which does have NWN2, for instance)
42:01 <Mekkis> I find steam more a "last resort" to getting a game
42:15 <Blasticka> hmmm. maybe I will look into this gog
42:34 <Blasticka> better not have a sister company called magog though or I will get creeped out
43:16 <Mekkis> (what I really mean is that I won't try steam until usenet, bittorrent, gog and brick and mortar have failed)
44:53 <Blasticka> *goes to look up gog*
46:03 <Mekkis> back on topic, of the six games that I mentioned, one is free, three are open-source, one you Should Buy direct from the publisher, and the other is on gog.
46:25 <Maestro> THERE he is. Cute little bunny
46:33 <Mekkis> actually, C&C is free, but getting a copy of v1.07 is challenging
46:44 <Maestro> He was just starting to bounce around and explore, now the little bastard gets some leafy greens to start his day
47:10 <Maestro> Thank god they practically potty train themselves
47:59 <Blasticka> well I've always wanted to play through NWN2
48:12 <Maestro> They have it
48:14 <Maestro> And the first one
48:22 <Blasticka> yep 20 bucks. something for next month
48:31 <Mekkis> Blasticka, wait until it's on sale
48:36 <Maestro> A day or so ago they had a 24-hour sale where if you got all of their D&D-based games at once you'd get 80% off the whole deal.
48:40 <Mekkis> yeah
48:46 <Maestro> I think Mekkis is the one who showed me that
48:47 <Mekkis> $21 for them all
48:50 <Blasticka> we are headed off to melbourne for our anniversary so we are kinda strapped this month.
48:59 <Mekkis> but you shouldn't be paying more than $10 for it.
49:10 <Mekkis> (I got mine free with my graphics card)
49:12 <Maestro> Happy anniversary!
49:27 <Mekkis> driving?
50:54 <Blasticka> naw flying. my dad in the states travels all over and had saved up travel points
51:25 <Blasticka> just for a few days we have an errand at the embassy there, and a couple days in a nice hotel as a bonus
52:18 <Mekkis> oh, you're not a citizen?
53:17 <Blasticka> no not yet, we are waiting for a letter actually to decide my residency
53:37 <Blasticka> if they say no no go home, we might be off to the states instead of melbourne
53:54 <Mekkis> oh, fun stuff
54:22 <Blasticka> we've been waiting a long time
54:44 <Blasticka> so at this point we'd just like a decision so we know where God wants us to live for the next couple years
56:50 <Mekkis> fun stuff
57:10 <Adrian> Does anyone who played in last night's PF game know how we get our chronicle sheets?
57:26 <Blasticka> on here, you are just patient
57:27 <Mekkis> Avatar gets them done
57:30 <Blasticka> and get online a lot
57:35 <Blasticka> yep
57:38 <Blasticka> but he is in school
57:42 <Adrian> ahh k
57:43 <Mekkis> no he isn't
57:46 <Mekkis> he's just busy
57:49 <Blasticka> oh thought he was
00:08 <Blasticka> hmmmm. what do i want to play. a game with a magical axe. who chooses an unwitting adventurer and makes him believe he is more powerful than he is, and leads him along adventures of Gold and dragons.
00:19 <Blasticka> mekkis have you made any like that?
01:52 <Maestro> Hehe sorry… was playing with the bunny
01:56 <Maestro> I turn into a five year old with him
02:26 <Blasticka> reminds me of invader zim and gir.
02:33 <Mekkis> I've almost done that
02:38 <Maestro> I figure we'll get them.
02:39 <Blasticka> and his little dog suit
02:44 <Mekkis> but players find it too railroady
03:12 <Maestro> I still haven't gotten a chronicle sheet for a game played over a week ago with the Roll20 PFS group. Both the Gm and the coordinator refuse to answer my e-mails
03:12 <Blasticka> what medium did you choose for the game?
04:27 <Maestro> Winston hates when I stop petting him, he'll spend the next fifteen minutes tugging at my pant leg just for more :P
04:43 <Mekkis> I ran it on here actually.
05:27 <Blasticka> awww sad i missed it
05:36 <Mekkis> it was a while ago
06:07 <Blasticka> we should turn it into an online rpg and make buku bucks
06:11 <Mekkis> at least you're not like that guy who wanted me to email his chronicle sheet to his comcast address, which refused to accept my email.
06:33 <Blasticka> we would call it, magicaxe
06:53 <Mekkis> Blasticka, there is no way I'm programming a commercial game unless you're paying me a lot of $$$, not commission, straight cash
07:23 <Blasticka> well how many do you need?
07:29 <Blasticka> $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
07:38 <Blasticka> I can do this all day. :-)
07:48 <Mekkis> 100k a year would be a good start
07:52 <Blasticka> no I don't have capital money to invest at this point
08:11 <Mekkis> good, because I don't think it would be a good investment
08:40 <Blasticka> I'm in a weird mood tonight Mekkis. gotta keep in mind I'm not really an australian, just a crazy american in disguise
09:05 <Mekkis> you should start playing nethack
09:07 <Maestro> lol, comcast
09:13 <Brunius> Speaking of which, where's Hydrazine?
09:14 <Maestro> I have no idea how they still exist
09:49 <Blasticka> what's nethack?
09:56 <Mekkis> a really good game
10:03 <Blasticka> I'll look it up
10:26 <Mekkis> www.nethack.org
14:33 * Maestro goes AFK to put the tea on and rummage for breakfast 
14:46 <Maestro> lol, Winston
15:05 <Maestro> Sorry
15:25 <Maestro> He has a hiding spot behind our shoe rack where I tossed a cardboard box after cutting a rabbit-sized hole into every side.
15:33 <Maestro> He drags it into corners of the room and then builds forts.
15:36 <Maestro> to hide in
15:40 <Brunius> ...
15:42 <Maestro> It was just too adorable.
15:47 <Maestro> 'cause he's doing it again
16:03 <Maestro> ^_^" Sorry
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22:54 <Mekkis> help suggest a good deity for a heavens oracle
23:18 <Blasticka> I just powered it up
23:29 <Maestro> Give me more information about your oracle
23:35 <Blasticka> it's asking me questions! o.O
24:14 <Maestro> http://www.pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Category:Good_domain_deities
24:28 <Mekkis>  Caught in silver clouds
24:28 <Mekkis>  Enlightened by a mystic full moon
24:28 <Mekkis>  You designed the horizon
24:28 <Mekkis>  And amaze my minute heart
24:28 <Mekkis>  
24:28 <Mekkis>  Past, present, future
24:28 <Mekkis>  Trapped in this concept of time
24:28 <Mekkis>  I raise my mind's eye
24:28 <Mekkis>  To the infinite which lies
24:28 <Mekkis>  In a silent night spreading wild
24:28 <Mekkis>  Stellar might, dark Heaven
24:28 <Mekkis>  Fill my art, trance my way
24:28 <Mekkis>  Shining grace forever
31:10 <Blasticka> that was very pretty.
31:20 <Blasticka> and nethack is confusing.
31:30 <Mekkis> you can play it online
31:32 <Mekkis> actually...
31:41 <Mekkis> you can watch me play it online :S
32:12 <Blasticka> I just killed some grid bugs
32:20 <Blasticka> by moving into them
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32:59 <Blasticka> do you ever level up or anything?
33:04 <Mekkis> yes
33:10 <Mekkis> probably one of the first tips: don't hold down movement keys
33:19 <Mekkis> and turn off autopickup.
33:38 <Maestro> I should start taking drugs and go back to playing Eve Online
33:46 <Maestro> I'm pretty sure those two go well together
33:55 <Mekkis> yeah
34:02 <Blasticka> how do I turn off auto pick up if it is on?
34:03 <Mekkis> start up a scam organisation
34:10 <Mekkis> [O]ptions
34:22 <Mekkis> then steal all the ISK
34:28 <Mekkis> and use it to fund your habit, Maestro 
34:41 <Maestro> lol
34:54 <Maestro> I don't have the patience.
35:00 <Maestro> I actually have only ever played that game on drugs.
35:09 <Maestro> I was bedridden for a few weeks and on pain killers after surgery
35:20 <Maestro> And flying through space on a whim was pretty fun
35:51 <Maestro> Right around the same time I stopped taking the pain killers I also ventured through unsecured space and got exploded the second I came through the gate by some joyriders.
35:59 <Blasticka> who the heck is this hachi person that is getting in my way
36:08 <Blasticka> do I have a companion already or something?
36:13 <Mekkis> use ; to identify stuff
36:21 <Mekkis> it stands for "look far"
36:27 <Maestro> I think I spent another week trying to stalk them and level up so I could blow them up, then I realized it would take months of dedicated work and maneuvering and decided I just wasn't that invested in revenge over the internet.
36:37 <Mekkis> (because you're supposed to use hjkl to move about)
36:42 <Maestro> So if any of you ever cross me, you'd better watch your back for at least a week.
36:48 <Maestro> After that I'll get bored.
40:23 <Maestro> Wow
40:43 <Maestro> A guy got arrested next to a local university campus with a stolen truck full of explosives, weapons, and maps to three colleges.
40:44 <Brunius> Hmm
41:17 <Brunius> What's your name? So I don't cross you...of course...
42:59 <Maestro> Sorry it's a news story that just broke.
43:20 <Maestro> I'm going to be attending this college in the fall so I'm keeping up and they buried the lead on their Twitter feed.
43:32 <Maestro> They said "Man Arrested Near University of Washington Campus With Stolen Truck"
43:37 <Maestro> And then I read it.
44:00 <Maestro> They skipped: Rifle (with scope), shotgun, body armor, multiple molotov cocktails
44:03 <Maestro> Holy shit, school paper.
44:07 <Maestro> Way to bury the lead.
54:43 <Maestro> I haven't ACTUALLY been playing Final Fantasy 14 for a good two hours. Just been chatting with you folks.
55:01 <Mekkis> yeah, Maestro, what's your name?
55:11 <Tal> Hello.
56:08 <Maestro> I'm Stephen. 
56:56 <Maestro> My mom named me after my father's best friend.
56:58 <Maestro> Or at least she thought.
57:10 <Maestro> My dad was in his early 20's and in college and doesn't even talk to the guy anymore.
57:15 <Maestro> So my mom named me after my dad's college room mate.
57:26 <Maestro> I'm only just now making this connection
58:00 <Maestro> Sorry, I was laughing.
01:35 <Mekkis> rationing data sucks
02:00 <Mekkis> I have about 140mb over the next four days
04:32 <Brunius> Hey Tal
08:05 <Blasticka> our plan is 200gb per month
08:08 <Blasticka> we rarely use it
08:30 <Mekkis> I'm on wireless at the moment
09:22 <Maestro> Ouch
09:22 <Blasticka> one of those darn internet sticks?
09:28 <Maestro> I don't use data much on my mobile.
09:48 <Mekkis> nope: I got a laptop with an integrated card
09:51 <Maestro> Home plan… I've never paid attention to the limits
09:56 <Tal> How's it going?
13:27 <Blasticka> Iiiii want cannnddy! bum bam bum ba dun dun, Iiiiiii want caandy. 
13:35 <Blasticka> if I sing that will winston play the drums?
13:57 <Maestro> I wish
14:07 <Maestro> He's being pissy right now ^_^"
15:14 <Maestro> I tickled him as he walked past and he flicked his legs at me like he was trying to kick dirt up. It's how bunnies say "piss off"
15:16 <Brunius> Pretty quite, here. Not too much happening today, it seems
15:52 <Tal> Gotcha. Wanted to check you guys out.
18:05 <Blasticka> is he a dwarf lop? or a full sized.
24:05 <Maestro> I don't rightly know.
24:12 <Maestro> My fiancé got him for company when I deployed
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