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00:03 <Ampera> parents get a tax stamp, that's it
00:09 <Ampera> they get school
00:11 <Nothing\> like if you've seen episodes of family guy where it shows stewie's preschool
00:14 <Ampera> maybe an after school program
00:14 <jaymax> I really miss the days of block parents. Substituing it out for pigs is what makes neighbours hate each other.
00:14 <Nothing\> it'd be like that
01:18 <Nothing\> Ampera, you should be careful with that assumption about no laws existing though
01:31 <Nothing\> because my assumption was that the law was 12 and under couldn't be alone
01:33 <Ampera> It's what I was told
01:34 <Nothing\> until i found this all out
01:46 <Ampera> so I really don't know
01:50 <Ampera> but I also don't care
01:51 <Nothing\> yeah i was told initially about it, but i was so incredulous i had to look it up
01:52 <Ampera> as I don't have kids
02:21 <Nothing\> hell, my parents left me alone for a week once when i was 14 and they went to mexico
02:30 <Nothing\> mind you i got myself arrested during that week
02:33 <Ampera> Since there's people here, I'm wondering if anyone has suggestions as to a good strategy for buying cars.
02:43 <Nothing\> but still, that's how things were in the 90's
02:47 <Ampera> I'm looking into getting one soon, and I have a few ideas
02:49 <Nothing\> before you softies came along
03:13 <Ampera> one idea that's particularly high in my mind is to get a Nissan Versa with a manual in it
03:28 <Ampera> I can get it for around 16k, which is a really nice price, the manual will be fun
03:40 <Ampera> and it'll be brand new, from a brand that's easy to get maintenance for around here
03:45 <Nothing\> i even remember in grade 1 i'd walk home (alone) and it'd just be my 5-6 year older brother and me until our parents got home from work
03:53 <Ampera> but it's also a car, not a hatchback, so cargo space is gonna be iffy
03:55 <Nothing\> that's when i met his friend melvin
03:58 <Nothing\> melvin gitch
04:14 <Nothing\> which is such an ancient joke i'd be amazed if it even registered with you
04:22 <Nothing\> basically it was an old name for a wedgie
04:49 <Nothing\> you tell someone "you wanna meet my friend melvin gitch?" and when they say yeah, in my case my brother sent me to the front door to greet him
05:05 <Nothing\> then when i looked out, he grabbed my underwear and yanked em up
05:20 <jaymax> Nothing\ I'm fine with the latchkey kid era - because the pushback against it was much worse.
05:33 <Nothing\> agreed
05:45 <jaymax> Go gen X
05:57 <Nothing\> i was born at a weird time
06:04 <Nothing\> i'm sorta half gen X and half gen Y
06:16 <Nothing\> so i guess gen downsyndrome?
06:19 <jaymax> Millenials got the helicopter treatment so long they grew up as crybabies.
06:38 <Nothing\> yeah i remember going on trips to florida and never once wearing sunscreen
06:52 <Nothing\> getting burns so bad i'd literally be covered in blisters and spiking a fever
07:14 <Nothing\> it'll be a miracle if i never get skin cancer
07:24 <jaymax> I'm technically a millenial but the joke I use "grew up rurally where time slows down - socially I'm Gen X".
07:37 <Nothing\> yeah i guess technically i'm gen Y
07:53 <Nothing\> Gen X was more born in the 70's and late 60's
08:15 <Nothing\> actually if you look at wikipedia's semi-official account of which generations had which names, gen x came immediately after the baby boomers
08:39 <jaymax> Yup
08:52 <jaymax> Aka bust.
08:53 <Nothing\> though personally i'd say the gen xers stopped being born when the iron curtain fell
08:59 <Nothing\> cuz that's when thing's really changed
09:02 <jaymax> Boom, bust, and echo.
09:13 <Nothing\> sounds like me when i'm pooping
09:19 <jaymax> LOL
09:21 <Nothing\> speaking of which
09:36 <Nothing\> actually before i poop, interesting fact
11:14 <Nothing\> if you know anything about remedial calculus, and/or physics, you know how you start with position, then the derivative of position is velocity (ie the rate of change of position is velocity), and the derivative of velocity, or change in velocity, is accelleration
11:25 <Nothing\> but then there are 3 more lesser used derivatives after that
11:31 <T3sl4> don't jerk us around
11:35 <Nothing\> haha
11:36 <Nothing\> yeah
11:44 <Nothing\> jerk, snap, crackle, and pop
11:54 <Nothing\> which i could barely wrap my mind around jerk somehow
12:12 <Nothing\> you wouldn't think it'd be a difficult thing to imagine, but every time i tried i'd inevitably imagine accelleration
12:33 <Nothing\> like, imagining an object experiencing a high rate of jerk, and what the implications of that would be
12:36 <Nothing\> i know it's bad
12:50 <Nothing\> and i know they have jerk sensors on centrifigures
12:56 <Nothing\> centrifuges
13:06 <Nothing\> which is probably why i was denied access to one that one time
13:09 <Nothing\> :P
13:30 <Nothing\> actually i wonder if anyone's ever been killed from over G
13:50 <Nothing\> and not just because they had some heart condition or something. I mean as a direct result of the G forces
14:02 <Nothing\> it seems like it would actually be a relatively pleasant way to go
14:10 <Nothing\> a la the suicide roller coaster
15:08 <Nothing\> though really if they could make it a hanging coaster where the riders sorta hang upside down so instead of 10+ G's, they'd experience -10+Gs
15:37 <Nothing\> which negative Gs are much more fatal because they force blood into your brain and your brain's BP skyrockets until the blood vessels just rupture
16:51 <Nothing\> yeah, as little as -3G can be fatal
17:32 <Nothing\> where a well trained fighter pilot in good shape could probably pull off 10G for short periods of time
17:44 <Nothing\> 9 or 10
18:10 <Nothing\> which is crazy when i think at 10G my 150lb frame would weigh as much as a car
18:44 <T3sl4> *tom scott G-face*
18:49 <Nothing\> and your blood would have nearly the density of mercury
19:01 <Nothing\> lol T3sl4 G faces in general are great
19:14 <Nothing\> an even funnier fact to consider
19:56 <Nothing\> if you've ever watched videos of people in those high altitude chambers that lower the air pressure to whatever it would be at X altitude for training and such
20:17 <Nothing\> next time you watch them, just remember every single one of them is farting like crazy because of boyle's law
21:10 <T3sl4> and also maybe laughing themselves to death, like that one time on smartereveryday
21:27 <Nothing\> haha yeah, and he's not the only one i've seen react that exact same way either
21:41 <Nothing\> it seems like the perfect way to go if there ever was one
21:55 <Nothing\> either that or hypoxia via nitrous oxide
22:08 <T3sl4> was about to say, the only thing better would be enrich it a bit with N2O
22:09 <Nothing\> cuz then right from the get go you don't care you're gonna die
23:06 <Nothing\> T3sl4, i remember watching this program on BBC or discovery channel or something (more likely the BBC) but anyway they were looking into humane ways of euthanizing animals and people
23:21 <Nothing\> going over all of the issues with the current methods
23:41 <Nothing\> and they discovered the must humane way, at least in the case of animals is hypoxia via nitrogen
24:05 <Nothing\> cuz then your body doesn't feel any CO2 levels increasing, which is what causes the feeling of oxygen starvation in the first place
24:28 <Nothing\> not to mention a crapton of pain as the CO2 converts to carbonic acid in the lungs, eyes, mouth and sinuses
24:40 <Nothing\> it'd be like permanently burping soda
25:30 <Nothing\> but i've seen co2 seems to be a gold standard for killing mice for snake food. They just put the mice in an airtight container with a dish of baking soda and vinegar
25:49 <Nothing\> but it makes me wonder how that doesn't cause the lid of the container to pop off from the pressure
26:34 <Nothing\> and why go to the trouble of the baking soda and that if you can just put them in the container and let them consume the air without using any special set up
27:03 <Nothing\> they may not consume much air, but their metabolisms are fast enough that they'd expire very quickly without it
27:28 <Nothing\> i've had the misfortunate of having to drown mice before and it only seems to take a minute or two before they become completely unresponsive
27:57 <Nothing\> but i'd always keep em in for at least 5-10 minutes just to make sure it's done and not prolong their suffering anymore
28:12 <Nothing\> i even go out of my way to make the water lukewarm so it's not as uncomfortable
28:45 <Nothing\> but if you catch a mouse and just put it outside it'll only find its way back into your house. unless you drive it like a mile away
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50:21 <Ampera> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/315713347368648705/906177660202397796/Screenshot_410.png
50:34 <Ampera> if anyone ever wanted to see firefox eating ~20G of system memory
55:31 <Ampera> https://prnt.sc/1yfgsqp
55:32 <EEVBot> [Title] - Attention Required! | Cloudflare
55:44 <Ampera> there's bhyve eating cores
56:04 <Ampera> but it's only allocated instead of actually eaten the memory
56:28 <Sigyn> All that javascript
56:41 <Ampera> er, that was the wrong chat
57:20 <Sigyn> I only looked at that first link
57:48 <Ampera> nothing fancy about the second, it was just for a different convo
57:51 <Ampera> the first one I did mean to post
57:59 <Ampera> and here's the thing, it's not javascript
58:03 <Ampera> I have no idea what's eating all that RAM
58:29 <Sigyn> It's the secret crypto miner
59:41 <Ampera> CPU isn't being hammered, so
00:00 <Ampera> unless you mean the second picture, in which case, that's because a hypervisor reserves cores for the guest
04:24 <Nothing\> huh
04:34 <Nothing\> so the simpsons wiki says krusty is 52 years old
04:44 <Nothing\> but there's a clip on the simpsons of him interviewing robert frost
04:55 <Nothing\> who died in 63
05:28 <T3sl4> 1989 datum, so he was born in 1937?
05:28 <Nothing\> i mean, all through the series they made references to the fact that krusty's a lot older than he seems and has been on tv since the 50s
05:47 <Nothing\> T3sl4, i guess if you're going on 1989
05:59 <Nothing\> but i mean, homer's age has changed multiple times since the series began
06:08 <Nothing\> anywhere from i think 36 to 42
06:12 <Nothing\> or there abouts
06:33 <Nothing\> it's funny, i remember as a kid thinking what a big deal it was when i turned 8 that i was finally the same age as lisa
06:40 <Nothing\> and then likewise when i turned 10 for bart
06:55 <Nothing\> now i'm damn near homer's age and stopped giving a damn about how old i am a long time ago
07:03 <Nothing\> or at least stopped being excited about getting older
07:06 <T3sl4> Nothing\ it's your birthday, happy Nothing\ Lisa
07:10 <T3sl4> er wait...
07:21 <Nothing\> that song's been stuck in my head for weeks
07:36 <Nothing\> there was one of those future episodes i watched and they did a call back to that episode
07:57 <Nothing\> lisa was a teenager and everyone apparently forgot her birthday, so bart and "michael jackson" write her several more verses of the song
08:04 <Nothing\> and she just sorta sits there like :|
08:20 <Nothing\> i think she was 14
09:25 <Nothing\> i liked the old future episodes better. Especially the first one. One of my favourite parts about anything in the future is just seeing the cool gizmos and gadgets they think we'll have. Even if it's exagerated like the holographic trees in the "lisa's wedding" episode
09:45 <Nothing\> which btw, i dunno why but i've always thought that the guy who did the voice of hugh was hugh grant, but i never bothered to check
10:05 <Nothing\> maybe i saw it in the credits and it was subconsciously implanted into my mind
10:09 <T3sl4> hugh jass
10:26 <Nothing\> i'm hugh jass
10:29 * Nothing\ grabs phone
10:48 * T3sl4 grabs Nothing\'s jass
10:55 <Nothing\> lol it's sad that we've seen so much simpsons we can so such obscure things and know exactly what the other is talking about
11:12 <Nothing\> *we can talk about
11:21 <Nothing\> or maybe i meant "say"
11:26 <Nothing\> either way, you get what i mean
11:40 <T3sl4> eh, that's a pretty famous one
12:04 <Nothing\> lol i think like 90% of seasons 2-8 are
12:26 <Nothing\> 1 is kind of a toss up. it's not bad by any means, but it's very different from the other episodes.
12:32 <Nothing\> like when homer tries to kill himself
12:43 <Nothing\> or bart full of sob-cries over failing the 4th grade
12:48 <Nothing\> *full on
13:08 <Nothing\> you'd NEVER see moments like that on modern simpsons
13:32 <Nothing\> or if you did, they'd try to add some tone-deaf attempts at brevity to it
20:17 <Nothing\> welp, i'm outta cannabis extract so i'm gonna run down to the pot shop for some more
20:35 <Nothing\> i'm pretty sure this stuff costs... well maybe not as much as gold, but about half the price i think
21:19 <Nothing\> ~$50 for a 1ml cartridge. Which they say is 1 gram, but i find that hard to believe considering it's got the consistency of molasses.
21:42 <Nothing\> they should totally make ecigs like this though
22:22 <Nothing\> instead of messing wmith coils and crap. you just buy the battery unit, and the stuff comes in pre-filled cartridges you just pop into the battery unit and it's held in place with a magnet
22:38 <Nothing\> no mess, don't even have to handle the juice at all
22:40 <Nothing\> so clean
22:44 <Nothing\> anywho bbiab
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06:08 <Nothing\> lovely, this cartridge of cannabis extract i got doesn't work
06:25 <Nothing\> seems like the coil's fucked cuz the battery unit just treats it like an open circuit
06:35 <Nothing\> even though i'm getting 0.2ohms on my meter
06:40 * Nothing\ shrugs
06:52 <Nothing\> the battery's fully charged, or so the indicator light says
07:42 <Nothing\> so pissed, after going out first thing in the morning to get this i just wanted to have a few puffs and relax for the morning. But I guess that's too much to ask for.
08:06 <Nothing\> I guess getting a product that isn't fucking broken right out of the box is too much to ask for
09:12 <Nothing\> okay now it's working... for no apparent reason
09:17 <Nothing\> i've done nothing different
10:16 <Nothing\> i had another cartridge that did this to me, too. Except it read something like 15kohm on my meter so i assumed the coil became detached at some point and the circuit was open. Though you'd expect megaohms if it was an open circuit, if anything.
10:35 <Nothing\> anyways, now that i'm done my rant
10:42 <Nothing\> hello Kuschelpony how are you?
10:44 <Nothing\> and TheDude
10:53 <TheDude> hello :)
10:55 <Kuschelpony> HelloNothing
10:59 <Nothing\> also i apologize to subjecting you to said rant
11:10 <Kuschelpony> oh im sorry there is much toolittle to talk :(
11:16 <TheDude> it's okay, tldr
11:20 <Nothing\> i know it's never fun being on the receiving end. I'm just not a happy camper first thin in the morning
11:21 <Kuschelpony> i wish i would have anything
11:24 <Nothing\> TheDude, good stuff
11:28 <TheDude> :D
11:39 <Nothing\> i'm always so self conscious about my pressured speech
11:47 <Nothing\> it's cost me more than a few friendships
11:50 <Nothing\> "friendships"
12:10 <Nothing\> since they can't be much of a friend in the first place if they take issue with you talking to them too much
12:17 <Nothing\> in a chat room, of all places
13:04 <TheDude> mate, I rant and rave all the fucking time
13:19 <Nothing\> oh i know
13:24 <TheDude> I am the last guy that could take offence in shit like that
13:29 <Nothing\> i mena i don't, i just know i'm not the only one who does it
13:36 <Nothing\> i just hate subjecting others to it
13:40 <Nothing\> and to my pressured speech
13:51 <Nothing\> ie the walls of text i sometimes post
13:52 <TheDude> on a completely unrelated note
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14:00 <TheDude> apparently, I won a gaming keyboard today
14:00 <Nothing\> yes, subject change is in order
14:05 <Nothing\> no shit?
14:11 <TheDude> yeah
14:13 <Nothing\> way to go
14:21 <Nothing\> also hello Tezzers and welcome
14:24 <TheDude> apparently one of the companies that were at the career fair like 2 weeks ago
14:33 <TheDude> ones that I interviewed with later
14:44 <TheDude> they ran a prize draw and I apparently won a gaming keyboard
15:15 <TheDude> and it's an RGB keyboard, so I'm gonna tell them to redraw and give it to someone else
16:01 <Nothing\> TheDude, hopefully it's a good one. I got a "gaming keyboard" with this gaming rig i bought, and it was so crappy, it was one of those keyboard where unless you hit the key in the EXACT center, it jams
16:16 <Nothing\> i'm sure you know the type i mean if you've ever bought a truly shittily designed keyboard
16:21 <TheDude> it's apparently one of these
16:22 <TheDude> https://uvi.gg/sl/uvi-gear-trgovina/#pix_section_keyboards
16:25 <EEVBot> [Title] - UVI Gear Trgovina - Razišči vso UVI gaming periferijo!
16:27 <Nothing\> i'd say cheap, but i've bought $10 keyboards that have lasted me years before
16:45 <Nothing\> in fact, the keyboard i'm using now is years old
16:55 <TheDude> I wouldn't mind a nice mechanical keyboard with cherry browns
16:55 <Nothing\> it's outlived 3 or 4 other mouses
17:05 <TheDude> but they can miss me with this shit
17:05 <Nothing\> oddly enough it outlived the mouse it came with
17:08 <Nothing\> despite being logitech
17:16 <Nothing\> you'd expect a logitech mouse to last more than a year
17:29 <Nothing\> but i bought 3 of the exact same model, and they all died within a year each
17:43 <TheDude> especially because it feels like they're throwing candy at me to come off as a nice company that I'd want to work for
17:55 <Nothing\> the spring on the tactile switch on the left click had crapped out
18:19 <Nothing\> so 90% of the time when i clicked, the button would "bounce" and i'd end up double clicking when i didn't intend to
18:43 <Nothing\> if you're familiar with button bounce and the effects of it
19:47 <TheDude> mate
20:36 <TheDude> ... you could hardly call yourself an electronics engineer if you were not familiar with contact bounce
21:24 <steve30> The air conditioning man finally came round to put my mum's AC unit back. I'm pleased to say it now works :)
21:45 <Nothing\> TheDude, i wouldn't say everyone in here is an EE
21:55 <Nothing\> personally, i dropped out mid-9th grade
22:42 <Nothing\> i mean, i'm an EE hobbyist, if you could call hobbyists EEs but i think that's mildly derogatory of EEs or at the very least, trivializes/diminishes the work they put in to get to where they are
22:55 <Nothing\> in particular, to get their degree and be inducted into the engineer's guild
23:08 <Nothing\> i guess by that token, i'd consider anyone in the guild to be an EE
23:35 <TheDude> I know that there's lots of variation on these things around the world
23:39 <Nothing\> or at least anyone in the guild for EE based engineering. I know there are all sorts of engineers in the guild. My buddy was inducted as a software engineer
23:49 <Nothing\> that too
23:59 <TheDude> here you need academic credentials to call yourself an EE
24:01 <Nothing\> there are different standards for their guilds
24:27 <TheDude> but IIRC from one of the eevblog videos, he mentions something like "professional engineers"
24:34 <Nothing\> TheDude, i call myself an EE but i always make sure to specify i'm strictly a hobbyist and have never worked in a professional capacity before
25:28 <Nothing\> actually most laypoeple don't know what an electrical engineer does. So I usually just tell people i build electronics. But then they figure that means i like, buy mobos and video cards etc and build computers.
25:59 <Nothing\> instead of building computers (or trying to anyways) from discreet parts like transistors and jellybean chips on a boardboard
26:26 <TheDude> well, people are mostly dumb, so that's how it is
26:38 <Nothing\> yup
26:55 <Nothing\> a lot of them become really interested when they find out what i really do though
26:56 <TheDude> I recall telling people that I'll be studying electronics engineering in college
27:07 <TheDude> "oh, now I know whom to call to fix my computer"
27:24 <TheDude> no, fuck off, I'm exactly the person you're not to call when you need shitty repairs :D
27:34 <Nothing\> when i was in prison, the one time my entire pod of 40 inmates got moved because the boiler for our hotwater was on the fritz
28:06 <Nothing\> half of them got moved across the way to another pod full of normal people. While the rest of us got moved into the pod for behavioral problems.
28:44 <TheDude> a pod is like a housing unit with multiple bunks?
28:46 <Nothing\> and these people were like, the sort who start fights at the drop of a hat and extort anyone they can, real psychopaths. The sort you picture when you this prison inmate.
28:58 <Nothing\> TheDude, yup. our pod had 20 double bunks
29:12 <Nothing\> so, 40 of us locked together in a fairly large room
29:25 <Nothing\> it was about the size of a cafeteria i'd say
29:31 <TheDude> I see
29:55 <Nothing\> hard to say how large exactly. but it wasn't bad, aside from sleeping next to all of them.
29:58 <Nothing\> but i digress
30:23 <Nothing\> when i was moved into the behavioral unit with all of these crazies, i only had a few hours before it was time to go home for the week so i wasn't too worried
30:42 <Nothing\> but for some reason when i told them i was into EE, they become incredibly interested in it
30:46 <TheDude> "Hello, thank you for your message. I currently do not need a new keyboard, so I propose that you do a redraw and give the keyboard to somebody that is going to put it to use. Kind regards, <name>"
30:55 <TheDude> does this come off rude and ungrateful?
31:13 <Nothing\> like, one of the "head"... i dunno what you'd call him, shot callers? i guess called me over to his bunk for a chat
31:30 <Nothing\> meanwhile we've got like 4 or 5 other guys standing security around us while we're talking
31:44 <Nothing\> and he's asking me all sorts of questions about it and making suggestions how i can make more money
31:58 <Nothing\> and i'm just sitting here dumbfounded that this mobster guy is so interested in me
32:22 <Nothing\> i wouldn't really say he was a mobster. more a wannabe mobster. but definitely a crazy who'd stab someone he didn't like in the face
32:40 <Nothing\> in an odd way, it made me feel more accepted than at any other point in my life
33:22 <Nothing\> and i knew he was being genuine and not just trying to work some racket or take advantage cuz he was giving ME advice on how to make money on the outside.
33:30 <Nothing\> stuff that would have nothing to do with him
33:36 <Nothing\> he was just genuinely interested in what i do
34:18 <Nothing\> but then when i told him i wanted to go to school he strongly discouraged me, saying something like school is for chumps and it's better to make money on the black market
34:58 <Nothing\> i tell you though. that time in prison was surprisingly fun
35:38 <Nothing\> i realize i got EXTREMELY lucky in that regard since my previous experience before that was one of constant physical abuse
36:13 <TheDude> eh
36:47 <TheDude> I knew a couple of guys that were trying to be "cool" by causing problems in school back when I was in elementary
36:48 <Nothing\> but i just found so long as i was confident and just acted as myself, didn't try to talk myself up or brag or exaggerate or anything, and every now and then maybe do some light cleaning like wiping down the tables, you get a lot more respect in prison
37:48 <Nothing\> they especially seemed to appreciate the cleaning. I think that's what got me so much respect in the behavioral pod cuz i had nothing else to do so i just cleaned up all of the tables
38:03 <Nothing\> and i overheard the one guy saying to another "hey, buddy's pulling his weight around here"
38:27 <Nothing\> TheDude, trying to be cool will always cause problems
38:56 <Nothing\> it might work for a bit, but inevitably like all lies, it unravels and comes crashing down like pants on fire
39:07 <TheDude> last I heard, that particular guy was locked up in Italy somewhere
39:39 <TheDude> something to do with smuggling/dispatching drugs, IIRC
40:03 <Nothing\> i was fortunate, i got 3 months, but it was to be served on weekends from feb 2nd last year to august... sometime in mid august that year. So 27 weekends.
40:29 <Nothing\> but by my 5th weekend, covid was in full swing, so they just shut the facility down until further notice
41:15 <TheDude> but did they postpone the sentence or did they let it slide?
41:34 <Nothing\> we were to remain on house arrest during any time when we were supposed to be in. So I was supposed to be in from 9am saturday to 5pm sunday (not bad considering it counts for 2 days) so those were the hours i was meant to be on house arrest in lieu of serving my sentence in prison
42:06 <Nothing\> but the house arrest time still counted just the same as if we served the time in prison
42:21 <Nothing\> so by the end of august, my sentence was up and i'd served all of 5 weekends out of 27 lol
42:47 <Nothing\> and no ankle bracelets or anything either
43:14 <Nothing\> the only supervision we got was a random call from the sgt to verify we were home
43:32 <Nothing\> which is funny because most of us had cell phones, so we coulda been anywhere for that
44:18 <TheDude> wouldn't they be able to see which base station your mobile was connected to?
44:32 <Nothing\> if they wanted to, sure
44:39 <Nothing\> but they're not gonna do that for hundreds of inmates
44:52 <Nothing\> which, they had hundreds of us to check on each weekend
45:06 <Nothing\> i think therewere something like 10 pods of 40 inmates
45:07 <TheDude> ah, right, yeah
45:15 <Nothing\> just in our wing of the prison
45:20 <TheDude> hold on
45:21 <Nothing\> and it was an actual prison, too
45:37 <TheDude> would they be called "inmates" in that case? wouldn't they be "outmates"?
45:39 <Nothing\> like, strip searches on entry, x-ray scans, orange jump suits, the hole, all that fun stuff
46:04 <Nothing\> TheDude, lol i dunno how the nomenclature works on that
46:08 <TheDude> :D
46:13 <Nothing\> i should call them and ask
46:24 <Nothing\> cuz i know the guy who worked reception was an asshole
46:30 <Nothing\> so i wouldn't mind bugging him at work
47:11 <Nothing\> the one time i was filling some paperwork out and something happened behind me that caught my attention, being ADHD and i accidentally filled part of the paper out wrong
47:33 <Nothing\> and the guy says "PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT YOU'RE DOING! THAT'S WHY YOU'RE IN HERE! BECAUSE YOU DON'T PAY ATTENTION!"
47:54 <Nothing\> and here i am thinking "what on earth does paying attention have to do with smacking my sister inlaw's ass?"
48:03 <Nothing\> paying attention to not getting caught?
48:40 <TheDude> ... I might regret asking this
48:44 <Nothing\> but he'd always say shit like that
48:53 <TheDude> but that did she do to earn herself the smackin?
49:00 <Nothing\> "don't do so and so. That's why you're in here, because you do so and so"
49:11 <Nothing\> TheDude, she bent over lol
49:30 <Nothing\> we were all just drinking and having fun
49:35 <Nothing\> and i guess i took it too far
49:37 * Nothing\ shrugs
49:46 <TheDude> you get prison time for that? wat :D
49:51 <Sigyn> Paying too much attention
49:52 <Nothing\> yup
50:01 <Nothing\> mandatory minimum for sexual assault is 3 months
50:05 <Nothing\> so that's what i got
50:23 <Nothing\> but i was looking at 2 years
50:33 <TheDude> jfc lol
50:45 <Nothing\> which considering it took 2 years just to get it overwith
50:53 <Nothing\> i spent 2 years thinking i was going to prison for 2 years
51:03 <Nothing\> and this is toronto south detention center
51:12 <Nothing\> one of, if not THE most violent prison in canada
51:19 <Nothing\> definitely the most violent in ontario
51:30 <Nothing\> and understaffed
51:34 <Nothing\> so i was terrified
51:43 <Sigyn> Surprised if you had a clean record they wouldn't let you plea it to simple assault or something
51:46 <Nothing\> but it actually wound up being some of the most fun i've had in a long time
51:56 <Nothing\> Sigyn, well that's why i only got 3 months
52:00 <Nothing\> because i took a plea deal
52:18 <Nothing\> otherwise i was prepared to go to trial cuz it was my word against her's
52:33 <Nothing\> but i never did because i didn't want to even risk going to prison for 2 years
52:43 <Nothing\> i mean if that happened, i'd still be in prison today
53:16 <Nothing\> i did get 2 years probation, but i get along wonderfully with my PO and that's gonna be up in february anyway
53:42 <Nothing\> i never thought i could get along so well with a PO
54:23 <Nothing\> i even missed an appointment for a check-in a few weeks ago because i've been so sick and i guess it just slipped my mind and she was perfectly fine with it
54:48 <Nothing\> especially since it's the first appointment i've ever missed or been late for
56:42 <Nothing\> oh cool
56:52 <Nothing\> apparently i downwloaded some DS ROMs last night
57:02 <Nothing\> first time i got any new ones in years
57:37 <Nothing\> i even got a cracked version of chrono trigger, which i've never had a chance to play on ds thus far
58:20 <Nothing\> although i'm still well into my playthrough of the 3d remake of final fantasy iv for the pc
59:06 <Nothing\> just about finished my first playthrough. I've just got a few rare drops i need to get with a drop rate of like 1 in 4000
01:08 <Nothing\> lol
01:22 <Nothing\> i started typing "giant" into the search bar for ali express
01:48 <Nothing\> first suggestion that game up was "giant dildo fucking machine dilldo"
06:30 <TheDude> kek
06:50 <TheDude> they sell those fuck machines as some sort of industrial equipment
07:37 <TheDude> "actuator with xx mm of travel and adjustable speed drive for the electric motor"
52:00 <Nothing\> i just got a GREAT idea
52:07 <Nothing\> for a microwave hack
52:20 <Nothing\> put a toggle switch in series with the piezo beeper
52:39 <Nothing\> so you can turn it off at night so you don't wake everyone up in the house
52:54 <Kuschelpony> hmm, sems too easy and practical to be really a hack :)
52:54 <Nothing\> aside from the clunky door latches they put in them
53:05 <Nothing\> Kuschelpony, lol yeah i know, right?
53:11 <Nothing\> i admit, i half stole the idea
53:29 <Nothing\> there was an article yeras back i read about how to "de-beep" your microwave by removing the beeper
53:44 <Nothing\> but i figured that's not good cuz then you won't know when your food's done
55:33 <Nothing\> boo my mum said the beeping doesn't bother her
55:34 <Nothing\> it's the latch
55:41 <Nothing\> actually speaking of my microwave's latch
55:52 <Nothing\> i found an interesting glitch with the one in my microwave
56:31 <Nothing\> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6d1PR5Of9xk&ab_channel=Nothing%5C
56:31 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: Strange microwave Glitch
56:39 <Nothing\> sorry for the vertical camera :(
57:14 <Nothing\> i think they should switch the camera modes on phones around so when it's vertical, you get a wider shot
57:46 <Nothing\> and when it's horizontal, you get a narrower shot. Just by default for the people who forget or don't know to turn their phone sideways when recording video or images.
58:02 <Nothing\> and of course, have an option to change that
58:17 <Nothing\> but anyways, what do you make of the thing with my microwave?
59:14 <Kuschelpony> im sorry but im still not inclined to watch anything on youtube
59:29 <Nothing\> oh no worries. it's an easy glitch to explain
00:11 <Nothing\> basically when i only close the latch partially, everything but the magnetron comes on. So like, the light and motors for the turn table and fan. But not the magnetron from the sounds of it
00:44 <Kuschelpony> thats easy to explain
00:52 <Nothing\> like, if i hold the latch button down so it just barely starts to open, this'll happen
00:59 <Nothing\> yeah?
01:02 <Kuschelpony> you have three switches at the door
01:03 <Nothing\> please do
01:28 <Nothing\> right, one to detect if it's open... and what are the other 2?
01:31 <Nothing\> for the fans?
01:47 <Nothing\> just as a sort of lock out feature to ensure they don't come on while the unit's open?
01:48 <Kuschelpony> the first one switches earliest, and on your microwave seems also topower the fan and light
01:50 <Nothing\> that'd be my guess
02:20 <Kuschelpony> the second one is in series and switches further the power to the magnetron
02:24 <Nothing\> yeah i've noticed two distinct modes of operation, one where the magnetron's running and one where it just seems to be the fans
02:38 <Kuschelpony> the third is a failsafe and shorts out when the first two fail
02:44 <Kuschelpony> right
02:50 <Nothing\> like if i put something in for several minutes, it'll usually just run the fans for maybe the last 15 seconds. presumably to vent any hot air or steam.
03:12 <Nothing\> Kuschelpony, right
03:17 <Nothing\> i'm with you so far
03:24 <Kuschelpony> also right, in this case there is likely a relay topower the fan independly
03:40 <Nothing\> yup, i can hear that click on
03:54 <Nothing\> no fancy igbt in this thing
04:13 <Nothing\> actually i wonder if there are microwaves with igbts or power trannies instead of a relay
04:33 <Nothing\> you'd need a hell of a tranny to handle the 1.2kw my oven uses
04:48 <Kuschelpony> the more recent generations have complete switchmode converters for the power
04:48 <Nothing\> i know standard ovens use 1kw but that's still a crapton of energy
04:56 <Nothing\> oh, nice
05:06 <Kuschelpony> 1kw is easy to handle
05:06 <Nothing\> say, do you watch technology connections at all?
05:13 <Nothing\> oh wait, no youtube
05:14 <Nothing\> right
05:18 <Kuschelpony> what watching?
05:21 <Nothing\> i was gonna say, it's right up your alley
05:46 <Kuschelpony> ah, i prefer to be personally inside that stuff, measuring and repairing
06:21 <Nothing\> it's a channel on youtube where the guy talks about things like, flaws in space heater design, old toaster designs that are better than modern ones, the advantages and disadvantages of LED street lights, random things like that, but always interesting and he pulls no punches with technical detail or video length
06:36 <Nothing\> Kuschelpony, ah like mr carlson?
06:53 <Kuschelpony> btw: the last CRT TV sets had about 20kVAcirculating in the horizontal deflection circuits switched at 31kHz, thats impressive for one single transistor
07:00 <Nothing\> mr carlson's lab's good if you're into radio stuff
07:11 <Kuschelpony> hm no i dont now all that
07:17 <Nothing\> but he also does the odd non-radio video. Lots of stuff about tubes and tube circuit topology
07:23 <Nothing\> like how an american 5 works
07:30 <Nothing\> which is a 5 tube radio
07:54 <Nothing\> or he has one video where he demonstrates a tube op-amp he has
08:31 <Kuschelpony> h well, i could never watch that stuff
08:55 <Nothing\> heh fair enough
09:08 <Kuschelpony> all i know is the result of almost 40 years, with a good mix of reading and understanding books, and tinkering myself
09:25 <Kuschelpony> of course it also helped to be TV service technican
09:34 <Nothing\> ah yeah, see i'm only 3 or so years into electronics so it's still all new and exciting for me
11:50 <Kuschelpony> you will learn much more, espically in that chat here :)
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44:48 <arch> leave unused opamp floating? or should i be all proper and terminate them with resistors to half vcc?
48:10 <electrohead> terminate and be done?
48:37 <electrohead> well, only if you don't, and it intereferes with other shit
48:39 <electrohead> :
48:40 <electrohead> :p *
53:05 <Tezzers> electrohead : You son of a bitch
53:08 <Tezzers> I'LL KILL YOU
53:20 <Tezzers> I can't have a beer for the next 6mo-1yr or so.
53:45 <Tezzers> But I'm going out for beers with some old timers from work next week. We'll see how that goes.
56:34 <electrohead> :O
56:36 <electrohead> why not?
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04:05 <Ampera> I hated you anyways
04:27 <Ampera> philly cheese dick
05:09 <electrohead> lol
05:15 <electrohead> I'M NOT FROM PHILLY
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11:36 <Tezzers> electrohead : I had fat fuck surgery
11:48 <Tezzers> Sliced out 80% of my stomach
12:38 <arch> my cuk converter. layout so far, work in progress: https://i.imgur.com/SkSkhUY.png
12:48 <arch> just got done with the controller section
13:16 <arch> will probably swap out that TO-252 with a PPAK
13:20 <Nothing\> i just got an idea
13:34 <Nothing\> i was just playing around with the classic zinc/copper battery
13:34 <arch> only need about 30W continuous power rating
14:18 * electrohead zincs Nothing\'s copper battery
14:23 <electrohead> Tezzers: ahh
14:40 <Nothing\> and was thinking, if you put an electrically conductive paste, like say thermal compound with silver which presumably thermal and electrical conductivity are closely tied and at the very least, silver's a fine conductor, and being a paste more surface area can make condact than if i just had straight washers on pennies
15:18 <Nothing\> so i was thinking if i put a dab of thermal past between each copper and penny, not only will the lot stay together much easier, but the internal resistance would be lower and i could presumably get more voltage and current out of it
15:32 <Nothing\> cuz i used 11 cells in a battery and got a modest 5.5v out of it
15:39 <Nothing\> but only a short circuit current of 10ma
16:09 <Nothing\> it probably depends on the electrolyte too, i'd imagine something more acidic than vinegar would also contribute to a lower internal resistance
16:23 <electrohead> arch: it needs more ceramic caps
16:34 <arch> whys that
16:41 <arch> im using pretty big seramics
16:54 <arch> you only need a handful of uF, switching speed is 500kHz
16:56 <Nothing\> i'm thinking sulphuric acid like in lead batteries but wouldn't that just react naturally with the copper to make copper sulphate
17:08 <electrohead> because it looks sexy with more caps
17:10 <electrohead> :p
17:27 <Nothing\> or maybe a salt solution would work better
17:43 <Nothing\> i should characterize the electrical conductivity of various electrolytes
17:52 <Nothing\> i mean, they're probably online but what's the fun in that
18:08 <arch> https://i.imgur.com/DlAjJUI.png ?
18:34 <Nothing\> oh hey
18:49 <Nothing\> random question
18:58 <Nothing\> none of you would happen to know what the best version of chrono trigger is, would you?
19:12 <arch> obligatory jjba reference: https://c.tenor.com/hdEL0uNj1Z4AAAAC/diavolo-requiem.gif
19:36 <Nothing\> throughout my research it appears a tossup between the DS version, which has lower quality music, and the PC version, which has clunky, awkward menus
19:50 <electrohead> arch: rofl
19:50 <Nothing\> but i think i'll go with the DS version in case i end up in hospital
19:52 <electrohead> that's awesome
20:02 <Nothing\> i know it's a matter of when, not if i go to the hospital
20:09 <Nothing\> so i'm already planning ahead
20:39 <electrohead> chrono trigger?
21:32 <Nothing\> though tbh, i've felt much better the last 3 days, been getting some MUCH needed rest thanks to taking literally oodles of sedatives, so i'm nice and well rested if just a tad groggy, and best of all i've figured out both a successful treatment for and the cause of my pain
21:32 <arch> no, that's jojo's bizarre adventure. it's filled with homos
21:35 <arch> but i love that shit
21:39 <Nothing\> electrohead, yeah, you've never heard of it?
22:15 <arch> same anime that brought you this meme: https://c.tenor.com/hqqpp8-wmlsAAAAd/jojo-jojo-part5.gif
22:31 <Nothing\> it's like, square/enix's most successful game next to the final fantasy franchise and dragon quest
22:49 <arch> let's just say...that anime has an abundance of really fabulous men
22:55 <Nothing\> i believe tehy even made a sequel or two, didn't they
22:55 <arch> and i love it
23:17 <Nothing\> arch, lol i remember when final fantasy X-1 or XI or some shit came out
23:20 <Nothing\> 11, basically
23:29 <Nothing\> or maybe it was XI-2
23:47 <Nothing\> who the hell knows, but i remember all of the gaming reviewers commenting on how androgynous the characters were
23:55 <electrohead> my first thought - https://www.ti.com/tool/TIDM-CHRONOS-PAN
24:01 <Nothing\> and they really were. I've never played the game but damned if i can tell who's a chick or not
24:24 <Nothing\> electrohead, dude seriously if you like JRPGs. PLAY THIS GAME
24:27 <arch> more context here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMI1dHGOPJo
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24:36 <electrohead> Nothing\: not my thing
24:40 <Nothing\> it gives the best of the best squaresoft games a run for their money
24:43 <Nothing\> fair enough
25:04 <Nothing\> i figured as much, i mean for a jrpg fan to have never heard of it is like a sci-fi fan never having heard of star trek
25:23 <Nothing\> maybe not star trek... battle star galactica let's say
26:03 <electrohead> haven't watched either of those
26:07 <electrohead> still not my thing :p
26:09 <Nothing\> me neither tbh
26:17 <electrohead> star wars, star trek, etc
26:19 <Nothing\> actually i've watched the next generation on netflix
26:20 <electrohead> eh, I'm good
26:23 <Nothing\> and it's pretty damn fun
26:29 <Nothing\> it's a lot more than just sci-fi
26:45 <Nothing\> there are some episodes that take place say, in san franciscico in the 30s
27:04 <Nothing\> mind you it's on the holodeck, but you forget that quickly
28:15 <Nothing\> or one of the best episodes i think is when picard's hit by a beam from some ancient probe from an unknown race and subsequently, and unknowingly, lives through an entire lifetime as one of the members of the race that sent the probe
28:26 <Nothing\> it was a sort of time capsule, as i recall
28:53 <Nothing\> just i've always liked the idea of living out an entire lifetime unaware that it's just artificial
29:04 <Nothing\> i've always felt that this reality is artificial, ever since i was a child
29:11 <Nothing\> so such stories really ring with me
29:30 <arch> never saw any of those. star wars, star trek, stargate, friends, seinfeld, etc et
30:09 <Nothing\> seinfeld's good too
30:16 <Nothing\> but yeah for the most part i've never seen any of those either
30:26 <Nothing\> and my uncle even worked on stargate atlantis
30:36 <Nothing\> apparently he helped make the stargate
30:48 <Nothing\> or one of them anyways, i'm not sure if they had more than one or not but i'm sure they did
31:07 <Nothing\> he worked on all 3 x-men movies too, is even credited
31:43 <Nothing\> it's a shame cuz he's having a full on mental breakdown at the moment, and i've always looked up to the guy since i was a kid. So it's especially painful to see him going through all of this same crap i've dealt with myself
31:49 * Ampera hugs Nothing\ 
31:50 <Ampera> <3
32:04 <Nothing\> i actually let him know he was a childhood role model of mine the other day. I think that really lifted his spirits.
32:10 * Nothing\ hugs Ampera 
32:16 <Nothing\> hey buddy, how's it going?
32:31 <Ampera> you tell me
32:38 <Nothing\> dude i'm wonderful
32:49 <Ampera> sorry for asking
32:50 <Nothing\> i think i may have found a second drug which successfully treats this pain i have
32:58 <Nothing\> either that or the pain's finally starting to abate
33:03 <Ampera> lessphine?
33:16 <Nothing\> all i know is i was in pain when i woke up a few hours ago, i took the drug, and now i'm in no pain
33:24 <Nothing\> and it wasn't benadryl this time
33:40 <Ampera> the infinite love of Jesus Fucking Christ?
34:13 <Nothing\> although a combination, while harmless (presuming no heart defects, which a slight possibility actually) would be especially effective if they pain ever became stubborn
34:24 <Nothing\> Ampera, lol cough syrup
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34:49 <Nothing\> i think because the molecule's very closely related to opiates, though it's not an opiate itself, it makes other opiates stronger
35:26 <Nothing\> and methadone taking mu receptors in my gut would slow down muscle contractions
36:11 <Nothing\> so it would stand to reason that if this drug in cough syrup, dextromethorphan, can make methadone stronger it would also make the effect of slowing GI motility stronger
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36:45 <Nothing\> but that's entirely speculative. Frankly i have no fucking clue what's going on with my stomach and i'm just desperately grasping at straws at this point because i'm at my wit's end
37:30 <Nothing\> if they would, i would actually go into a hospital and demand a colostomy just so i can be done with this and the chronic constipation and all the other horrible stuff i've had to put up with thanks to my bowels
38:29 <Nothing\> and i've seen what it looks like when somebody with a full colonostomy changes their bag. I know what the hole looks like (though i forget the name) I know the infection risk and what's involved with changing your poop bag
38:42 <Nothing\> and honestly i'd deal with all of that in heartbeat over this
39:08 <Nothing\> even if it was a choice between a year of this pain, or a lifetime of living like that. I'd choose that
39:44 <Nothing\> oh yeah Ampera
39:56 <Nothing\> to give you an idea of just how much the methadone slows down GI motility
40:05 <Nothing\> i passed some lactulose today
40:12 <Nothing\> but i haven't taken any since last thursday
40:23 <Nothing\> no wait
40:24 <Nothing\> sorry
40:30 <Nothing\> i'm getting my days mixed up here
40:36 <Nothing\> it was saturday i took my last dose
40:58 <Nothing\> silly thing is, i made the same mistake when i explained this to my mum. You'd think I'd have figured it out.
41:18 <Nothing\> but yeah, what i ingested on saturday is only just NOW coming out of me
41:34 <Nothing\> that's how slow my GI tract's gotten. And that's WITH laxatives
42:45 <Nothing\> although i've always been wary of liquid poo biomarkers since they can diffuse through the turd where a solid biomarker like corn or nuts will stay right where it is once it's been digested by the large intestine
43:20 <Nothing\> speaking of poop i can hear the plop plop of one of my kitty's dropping the bears off at the beach
44:04 <Nothing\> must be luci cuz she's burying it. The larger one, smokey just poops then runs away from the litter box without doing a thing
44:27 <Nothing\> and since he's almost 4 feet long, his poops are huge and stink up the entire house
44:44 <Nothing\> lol luci will even go in sometimes and bury his poop for him cuz she can't even stand the smell
45:13 <Nothing\> but apparently alpha male felines sometimes do that as a way of marking territory
20:49 <electrohead> lmao wut
21:14 * electrohead shakes his head and walks away
34:26 <arch> has anyone here had luck recently getting free samples from semiconductor companies? i remember TI used to do it before, for free, for small samples
46:29 <electrohead> it's been a while since I've been able to get free samples
46:37 <electrohead> TI actually cut me off, lol
46:49 <T3sl4> they have direct sales now, so
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59:20 <arch> i want to buy myself a few of these...but the $35 price tag, EACH... fuck it, i'll scrape some mosfets off some old dead PSUs lol: https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/ixys/IXTK200N10L2/3305058
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59:33 <arch> and parallel them together
59:45 <T3sl4> what for
59:57 <arch> cc load, version 2. i got myself another dead graphics card
00:12 <T3sl4> why would you want a $34 transistor
00:26 <T3sl4> were you just sorting by wattage or something
00:40 <arch> naw, i just saw a youtube vid where this guy made a bigass cc load with those
00:54 <arch> he used 4 of those in parallel. rich motherfucker
01:30 <arch> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vr6YsT403DM
01:32 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: A 400W (1kW Peak) 100A Electronic Load Using Linear MOSFETs
01:43 <arch> woops, not 4, 2
01:56 <arch> that's fucking $70. rich bastards...
02:11 <arch> $70! for two mosfets!
03:09 <arch> so i was thinking...should i bug Littelfuse for a few samples of those
03:22 <arch> but they'll likely deny, so back to scraping mosfets i go...
05:13 <T3sl4> 100W/$ should be available
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12:33 <T3sl4> or good old IRFP250N, doesn't have a DC SOA curve today but it's probably fine
13:50 <Nothing\> ah man
14:04 <Nothing\> i'm soooo grateful to say i am 100% pain free
14:10 * T3sl4 hugs Nothing\
14:13 <Nothing\> no pain, no discomfort, nothing
14:33 * Nothing\ tackle hugs T3sl4 then dances around the room with him
14:44 <T3sl4> not actually seeing anything bigger than TO220 with published DC SOA
14:59 <T3sl4> up to like $6/ea so you'll have far better value with the 220s it seems
15:06 <T3sl4> arch ^
15:22 <arch> nice! thanks T3sl4
15:34 <arch> i'll solder a bunch of those in parallel onto the heatsink
15:45 <arch> i specifically made sure to buy a dead GPU that has a copper heatsink
16:09 <T3sl4> and ofc anything with D2PAKs you can hack it like that, just a manual PITA to wire up
17:19 <arch> you know what...there are 18 TO-252 mosfets on the GPU motherboard. i think i might solder them on directly, assuming each mosfet can handle at least 2A DC at 30V
17:36 <arch> obviously, not gonna solder all 18; maybe like 8
18:23 <arch> place kapton tape on an evenly spaced apart grid, put bismuth solder paste, place all 8; isolate the drive and gate pins with kapton tape, and pop the thing in the oven
18:39 <T3sl4> but they're only gonna do 20 or 30V so it's not exactly massive
18:43 <arch> true
18:48 <T3sl4> ok for like a battery tester or something i suppose
18:59 <arch> or most PSUs, which are below 30V
19:49 <arch> i took my GTX580 CC load to work and my boss was like "dafuq is that"
20:00 <arch> but my buddy found it neat :D
20:12 <arch> he thought it was a GPU
20:41 <arch> you thought it was GPU but it was i, constant current load! *DIO!*
22:03 <T3sl4> it was "I", the symbol for current flow
22:21 <arch> damn, i messed that up...
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34:02 <Nothing\> eep
34:12 <Nothing\> 'nother boss battle coming up in ff4
34:46 <Nothing\> they make me nervous cuz they're end-game bosses but somehowe i wound up with way overpowered characters
35:00 <Nothing\> more so than in any of the other >20 plthroughs i've done
43:09 <arch> so the gpu mosfet reuse method will not work. i did some CSI Miami level investigation to find out the mosfet the GTX275 uses, scouring google for PCB images, and found it's using this: https://www.onsemi.com/pdf/datasheet/ntd4963n-d.pdf which isn't really good for DC operation
44:35 <arch> so the TO-220 method it is. $1.63/mosfet, not too bad. i'll get like 10 of em and we should be good. i already have gate driver ICs, so we should be good on that end as well
45:08 <arch> opamp output to gate driver, gate driver output to resistors to mosfets
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39:16 <T3sl4> mornin
40:18 <Halcyon> :-)
56:39 <Halcyon> Why can't someone invent a cheap battery powered PoE adapter with a simple WiFi bridge?
56:58 <Halcyon> I need to set up CCTV cameras and I'd like a portable test solution to decide the best location
00:47 <T3sl4> sounds easy enough. what's your budget?
00:53 <T3sl4> to invent it, i mean ;)
02:00 <DHess_US> You know they make PoE adapters with DC jacks.
07:15 <T3sl4> i'm just a PoE boy, nobody loves me
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27:52 <DHess_US> From a PoE fa-ma-ly?
31:11 <Halcyon> T3sl4, not $900 fucking dollars, that's for sure
31:26 <Halcyon> DHess_US, yes, but I need the network connectivity as well
31:28 <T3sl4> :P
31:50 <Halcyon> So I can wander around with the camera and find the best place to mount it without dragging along a 30 metre Ethernet cable
32:15 <DHess_US> I fail to see the problem. Why can't the same battery run both?
32:37 <DHess_US> Two back to back PoE adapters?
33:24 <Halcyon> It can
33:24 <DHess_US> Or depending on the PoE standard, settle for 10/100 and cut a cable up.
33:30 <Halcyon> But I don't have a wireless bridge either
33:35 <Halcyon> I'd like to have it in one device
33:39 <DHess_US> Well, there's your problem.
33:53 <DHess_US> Oddly enough ...
33:59 <Halcyon> Literally plug the camera into a box and it gives me power + network connectivity
34:08 <DHess_US> No, there is another way. I even have one.
34:41 <DHess_US> The old style Ubiquiti nanostations have two ethernet ports, with one accepting PoE, which gets forwarded to the other.
35:03 <DHess_US> So you can have one PoE adapter which powers the ethernet bridge, which then powers the camera.
35:17 <Halcyon> Yeh that could work
35:34 <DHess_US> Depends on the camera accepting Ubiquiti PoE of course.
35:48 <DHess_US> It isn't the IEEE standard but what predated it.
35:57 <Halcyon> Ah yeh they used stupid 24 volt passive PoE
36:01 <Halcyon> Nothing I have uses that
36:10 <DHess_US> Essentially just apply 12 to 48 volts or whatever to the extra wires on a 10/100 cable.
36:47 <DHess_US> 10/100 only uses 2 pairs, so 10/100 PoE before the 802.11 standard just uses the extra two pairs for fixed voltage power.
36:50 <Halcyon> It might be cheaper just to buy a fuckoff long network cable and chuck it on a reel
37:44 <DHess_US> Just means getting the passive poe injector, and using a camera which will accept it.
37:53 <DHess_US> Well, and getting a legacy nanostation.
37:59 <DHess_US> They are 802.11N and very nice.
39:01 <DHess_US> I don't remember if the smaller nanostation light has both ethernet ports
39:11 <DHess_US> err, nanostation loco
39:55 <DHess_US> Hmm, says one, but mine has two, https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1079057-REG/ubiquiti_networks_nsm2_2_4ghz_nano_mimo_airmax.html
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40:05 <DHess_US> and it shows two on the back.
41:06 <DHess_US> There is also a 5G version if you want that.
47:07 <Halcyon> I can just buy a pre-terminated cat 6A 40 metre cable for less than $20
47:12 <Halcyon> I might just do that
49:14 <Halcyon> Ewww it's copper clad aluminium
49:17 <Halcyon> No wonder it's cheap
50:09 <Halcyon> Pure copper 50 metre Cat 6A $50
53:03 <DHess_US> If it is preterminated then who cares?
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57:41 <Halcyon> CCA is poo
57:46 <Halcyon> I don't buy it simple on principle
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36:05 <Kuschelpony> good weekend
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06:27 <jaymax> Power was out for 3.5 hours, so I'll give it a four-star weekend so far.
06:54 <Kuschelpony> hihi
07:11 <jaymax> hihihi
08:53 <jaymax> Apparently I'm brave for still walking around outdoors in shorts. I'm about keeping the spine warm, so maybe I'm a frosty crazy person.
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10:07 <Kuschelpony> yeah, i feel not well today so i went back to bad
10:13 <Kuschelpony> back to bed
13:12 <jaymax> Unfortunate to not go back to bad instead - unwell seems worse.
13:33 <jaymax> At any rate, rest up.
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