// #eevblog — 2021-11-03
1996
1997
1998
1999
2000
2001
2002
2003
2004
2005
2006
2007
2008
2009
2010
2011
2012
2013
2014
2015
2016
00:09:50 * Ysjoelfir steve30 's the coffe
00:10:00 <Ysjoelfir> also, hi watcher
00:11:23 <watcher> Ysjoelfir what means the % before your nick? @ is mod but wat is %
00:11:36 <Ysjoelfir> hop
00:11:46 <Ysjoelfir> erm, half-op
00:12:38 Mode: (by Ysjoelfir) -h Ysjoelfir
00:12:48 * Ampera hugs Ysjoelfir
00:13:28 * Ysjoelfir hugs Ampera back
00:13:31 Part: Ysjoelfir ([email protected]) from #eevblog (Closing Window)
00:13:36 <Ampera> k
00:13:40 <Ampera> didn't fucking like you anyways
00:13:45 Join: Ysjoelfir ([email protected]) to #eevblog
00:13:46 Mode: (by ChanOP) +o Ysjoelfir
00:13:51 <Ampera> welcome back
00:13:56 <Ysjoelfir> thanks
00:14:02 Mode: (by Ysjoelfir) +v Ysjoelfir
00:14:05 <Ampera> how are you doing Ysjoeltree
00:14:12 <+Ysjoelfir> ah. now it works. nice.
00:14:26 <electrohead> o/
00:14:27 <+Ysjoelfir> I am doing very much a lot like being fine, thanks. and you?
00:14:31 * Ampera hugs electrohead
00:14:36 <+Ysjoelfir> mornings mr. spark
00:14:38 <Ampera> procrastinating slightly before I get back to work
00:14:47 <Ampera> I'm almost to the bottom of my second cup of tea
00:15:05 <+Ysjoelfir> I just got a can of energy drink
00:15:09 <+Ysjoelfir> electrohead, did it move again?
00:16:29 <electrohead> oh shit
00:16:36 <electrohead> "out for delivery"
00:16:57 <electrohead> it's only been a month, lol
00:26:12 <+Ysjoelfir> woah! nice!
00:45:27 <electrohead> yeah, it'll probably be here within the next two hours
00:46:54 <+Ysjoelfir> I hope so, than you must hurry up to unwrap and present it, I leave work at 1700 :P
00:50:23 <K> 17:00 ?
00:50:55 <+Ysjoelfir> yep
00:52:17 <electrohead> ok :p
00:54:12 <+Ysjoelfir> EEVBot time Ysjoelfir
00:54:13 <EEVBot> It is currently 2021/11/02 14:54:13 where Ysjoelfir resides.
00:54:22 <+Ysjoelfir> just for your reference.
00:56:10 Quit: MrMobodies ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
00:56:44 <steve30> I like the Thinkpad R40's trackpad much better than the T420's
00:57:31 Join: MrMobodies ([email protected]) to #eevblog
00:57:38 <+Ysjoelfir> whats a trackpad? is it the nipple?
00:57:40 <steve30> It has a nice matt finish which is easier to move your finger over, and it is recessed, so you can feel the edge of it.
00:57:51 <steve30> no, the one that you slide your finger over
00:58:06 <+Ysjoelfir> isnt that a touchpad?
00:58:09 <steve30> Not sure if that's what IBM call it or not. Trackpad tended to be Apple's name for it.
00:59:55 <K> tracksuit
01:00:08 <+Ysjoelfir> Spandex?
01:00:53 <Ampera> how the hell do you not know what a trackpad is
01:00:55 <Ampera> I'm calling bullshit
01:01:03 <Ampera> bullshit just answered
01:01:08 <Ampera> it wants your fucking joke back
01:01:15 <Ampera> otherwise it's gonna sue for copyright infringement
01:01:46 <+Ysjoelfir> I know a touchpad and I know the nipple. never heard of a trackpad
01:01:49 Quit: watcher ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
01:01:55 <Ampera> touchpad is a heretrical term
01:01:57 <Ampera> it's a trackpad
01:02:03 <Ampera> if you say otherwise I'm gonna break your fucking hands
01:02:28 <Ampera> the nipple is also called a trackpoint, though clitmouse is acceptable
01:05:09 * electrohead mutilates Ampera's hands
01:05:32 * Ampera licks electrohead's corneas
01:06:09 <electrohead> eww
01:06:12 * electrohead stabs Ampera
01:06:16 <Ampera> how are you doing thunderguy?
01:37:36 <+Ysjoelfir> electrohead ! did it arrive?
01:42:34 <electrohead> not yet!
01:42:40 <electrohead> Ampera: eh, alive
01:42:42 <electrohead> you?
01:42:52 <Ampera> dead, thanks
01:45:38 <electrohead> Ysjoelfir: yay! just showed up
01:48:27 <electrohead> :O
01:48:30 * electrohead is nearly puking
01:48:44 <Ampera> I think he likes it
01:48:45 <electrohead> you sent something with fish, and it got dented, and fish juice went everywhere
01:48:55 <electrohead> lmfao
01:49:06 <Ampera> he bombed you with surstromming
01:52:38 <+Ysjoelfir> erm, no? :D no fish.
01:52:57 <+Ysjoelfir> is it a golden can?
01:53:11 <Ampera> lol, it not being fish just makes it worse
01:54:10 <+Ysjoelfir> luckily most of it is wrapped in plastic or metal. So it shouldn't affect much
01:54:20 <Ampera> what was it though
01:54:34 <electrohead> bratherings - fillets
01:54:38 <+Ysjoelfir> ooooooooooh
01:54:41 <+Ysjoelfir> ok, I sent fish
01:54:43 <electrohead> dude it looks so good, too
01:54:54 <+Ysjoelfir> I forgot that I added that the last moment
01:55:04 <Ampera> you shouldn't have
01:55:05 <electrohead> but, I can tell the can either dented or ruptured a bit
01:55:05 <Ampera> no really
01:55:07 <Ampera> you shouldn't have
01:55:28 * electrohead hugs Ysjoelfir
01:55:45 <+Ysjoelfir> So, unwrap everything, read the notes and take pics for the channel :D
01:56:02 <+Ysjoelfir> and hope that the router didn't get soaked in Brathering juices xD
01:56:13 <K> fish are the worst.
01:56:31 <Ampera> I think I had bratherings when I was last in Germany, I don't recall being a fan
01:56:41 <Ampera> but when I was in germany, I was literally being abused with food
01:56:48 <Ampera> people kept feeding us to obnoxious levels
01:56:56 <Ampera> Germans are a paradox
01:57:05 <Ampera> they eat more than Americans, but a lot of them are as thin as Canadians
02:00:03 <electrohead> you really want me to take pictures for the channel?
02:00:07 <electrohead> lol
02:00:19 <electrohead> some of the notes are soaked in tasty juices
02:00:28 <electrohead> I can still read them, but I have to throw them away >.<
02:02:00 <+Ysjoelfir> btw, Bratherhing is a word we germans, who also speak english, just "love" to read wrong. its actually pronounced brat-hering with brat like "bra" with a long a and a added t and hering like.... herring, just with a long e, but we always tend to read it wrong, like it is an english wort
02:02:32 <K> wort!
02:02:50 <+Ysjoelfir> lol
02:02:51 <+Ysjoelfir> word
02:05:08 <+Ysjoelfir> electrohead sure, feel free to share it :) I love knowing what you think about the things^^
02:05:35 <electrohead> cool :)
02:05:47 <electrohead> the bottom of the fritzbox is covered in juices, lmao
02:06:06 <+Ysjoelfir> lol^^ you can open that pretty easily. just check if any got into it.
02:10:31 <electrohead> the can of spezi *almost* exploded
02:10:49 <electrohead> the bottom is a bit swollen
02:11:02 <electrohead> a good half the items are covered in fishy goodness xD
02:11:13 <electrohead> totally worth the clean up, though
02:11:15 * electrohead hugs Ysjoelfir
02:11:18 <electrohead> worth it.
02:14:51 <+Ysjoelfir> The Spezi was dented from the beginning, no worries^^ I noticed that only after I paid for it
02:17:04 <+Ysjoelfir> The Faxe is sadly no german but a Danish product, but I thought you will like it regardless.
02:17:18 <+Ysjoelfir> and yes, that is their standard size beer can
02:33:50 <+Ysjoelfir> electrohead, hurry up! only 27 minutes remaining! XD
02:40:05 Join: coppice ([email protected]) to #eevblog
02:40:18 <MrMobodies> Helllo
02:40:33 <MrMobodies> Just got word that my next door neighbour has COVID
02:41:04 <MrMobodies> his grand children who live in a flat in a city turned up there for the holidays
02:41:31 <MrMobodies> and despite the neighbour being vaccinated twice he still got it
02:41:42 <electrohead> confirmed fish juices in the fritzbox xD
02:41:55 <MrMobodies> I like that joke
02:42:02 <MrMobodies> Fritzbox router
02:42:03 <electrohead> and heh, ok fair enough about that can
02:42:09 <electrohead> MrMobodies: yup
02:42:09 <coppice> If only he'd had the 95th booster dose
02:43:34 <MrMobodies> my sister was given a Fritzbox as an upgrade to a Zyxel
02:44:22 <MrMobodies> the only problem is it was set to use the switch ports for the wan interface looking at the datasheets the controllers don't seem to support the Vlan too good
02:44:35 <K> well, vaccination does not 100% prevent becoming ill
02:44:39 <MrMobodies> I know it's only 30mbps fibre but
02:44:48 <MrMobodies> well the children have no where to go
02:44:51 <K> just gives better ods to not die in hospital
02:44:59 <MrMobodies> yes
02:45:07 <K> which is good enough in my book
02:45:14 <MrMobodies> I heard someone was in a care home temporarily
02:45:25 <MrMobodies> 4 of them died but the lady we knew
02:45:34 <MrMobodies> apparently she was the only one vaccinated before she went in there
02:45:44 <MrMobodies> that was last year
02:46:17 <steve30> I've just been learning how to do travelling mattes in Adobe premiere
02:47:52 <electrohead> alright, the brathering smell is finally somewhat dissipating
02:47:54 <electrohead> yay
02:48:02 <electrohead> well, rotten smell, rather
02:48:04 <electrohead> lol
02:48:23 <electrohead> Ysjoelfir: I will show the pictures sometime later on!
02:48:40 <electrohead> have a tiny bit of cleaning up yet to do, and then taking a break, and waiting on a few emails as well
02:48:41 <+Ysjoelfir> ok, than do it tomorrow, I'll not be on until tomorrow at 8
02:48:49 <+Ysjoelfir> 8 AM my time
02:49:29 <electrohead> ok cool
02:49:53 <+Ysjoelfir> I am happy that you like it, despite the burst can xD
02:59:24 Join: watcher ([email protected]) to #eevblog
02:59:49 Join: Kuschelpony ([email protected]) to #eevblog
03:02:46 Quit: watcher ([email protected]) Quit: i'am out
03:02:55 Join: watcher ([email protected]) to #eevblog
03:13:51 Quit: Kuschelpony ([email protected]) Quit: Ex-Chat
03:14:07 Join: Kuschelpony ([email protected]) to #eevblog
03:39:20 <electrohead> german sausage is king/
03:39:23 <electrohead> king. *
03:44:45 Join: Tezzers| ([email protected]) to #eevblog
03:54:10 Quit: Tezzers| ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
04:08:33 Join: Tezzers| ([email protected]) to #eevblog
05:37:16 Quit: Skaface82 ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
05:41:40 * Halcyon waggles electrohead's sausage
05:41:51 Join: Skaface82 ([email protected]) to #eevblog
06:03:20 Quit: Tezzers| ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
06:16:29 Join: TheDude ([email protected]) to #eevblog
06:30:54 Quit: Kuschelpony ([email protected]) Connection closed
06:31:46 <DHess_US> https://www.therealreal.com/products/watches/bracelet/rolex-gmt-master-watch-bjw6c
06:31:47 <EEVBot> [Title] - Access to This Page Has Been Blocked
06:32:28 <TheDude> nice
06:33:02 <DHess_US> Anybody who can afford that watch does not need to be on time.
06:33:15 <TheDude> nonsense
06:34:00 <watcher> it is to show off
06:34:04 <TheDude> people buy these sorts of watches as investments, too
06:34:18 <TheDude> the value appreciates with time
06:35:48 <watcher> i now that poeple do that. but you need to store it in a safe or by the bank will it not that over time you pay your sow much that you have all most no profit?
06:36:40 <TheDude> safe deposit boxes are a bit of a meme, tbh
06:37:04 <TheDude> having a safe at home might make sense
06:37:11 <TheDude> but you can use a safe to store more than just 1 watch
06:38:29 <watcher> the bugdet for the safe can by 15.000 dollar that is the comman advice spend around the amount of money that it is worth. so you need 30k before buy that watch
06:38:46 <watcher> and multiply watches even more
06:39:08 <TheDude> what kind of advice is that?
06:39:28 <TheDude> spend the equivalent amount of money on a safe as you plan on storing inside it?
06:39:29 <TheDude> wtf
06:40:17 <DHess_US> What is wrong with a safe deposit box?
06:40:36 <watcher> same advice as for a bike if the bike cost you $150 second hand you have a budget of $150 for locks and that kind of stuff
06:40:40 <TheDude> easily confiscated by the state, should some weird ass laws come into place
06:40:59 <DHess_US> That is about the rule I use watcher.
06:42:53 <TheDude> yeah, you should spend as much on a door lock as you did on the house that it is keeping safe
06:43:59 <DHess_US> That is specious. Door locks on houses are only used for access control, not security.
06:44:30 <TheDude> it's a ridiculous rule of thumb is what I'm saying
06:44:39 <DHess_US> A "secure" house is a very different thing, and does not rely on door locks.
06:44:49 <TheDude> you don't need a $15k safe to store a $15k watch
06:44:50 <TheDude> wtf
06:44:52 <watcher> it is not needed to pay 15k for a lock for 100 to 200 usD you have a lock that is safe. and you need also good hinges and protect to over and under door attacks. so not all must go to the lock
06:46:04 <watcher> TheDude you dont need it is the advice
06:46:24 <TheDude> the watch or the safe?
06:46:40 * Ampera hugs TheDude
06:46:45 <Ampera> how are you doing friend?
06:46:45 <TheDude> hello
06:46:55 <TheDude> very exhausted
06:47:09 <TheDude> almost 10 hours at work today
06:47:16 <TheDude> and went to the gym afterwards
06:47:17 <DHess_US> For safes I would have said it is the insurance requirements. Insurance companies rate safes for the value they will reimburse, so a "$15,000 safe" is a real thing, but it does not cost $15,000.
06:47:37 <DHess_US> And a $15,000 safe is very different thing than a $2,000 safe.
06:47:38 <watcher> a $30 hotelsafe will work if you protect for poeple without tool or knowledge
06:47:52 <DHess_US> So will a paper bag.
06:48:07 <DHess_US> Hotel safes are hillarious.
06:48:44 <watcher> correct
06:48:58 <TheDude> they often don't even bother screwing them down
06:49:12 <watcher> but for someone that have no knowledge or tools it will work
06:49:15 <TheDude> and there's a default password that the maids know in order to open it
06:49:32 <TheDude> so really it's not going to keep your valuables very safe
06:49:34 <watcher> mostly like 123456 or 0000000
06:49:42 <TheDude> yeah, something along those lines
06:49:53 <DHess_US> default password, plus they will put the hotel's monogram plate over the key access on the front, and the key access is trivial to defeat.
06:50:32 <watcher> and can by open in seconds with tools from amazon that cost couple off dollars
06:51:37 * electrohead sips on a man's beer
06:51:44 <DHess_US> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=De0D7otNxME
06:51:45 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: [603] Saflok Hotel Safe Override
06:51:49 <electrohead> a full liter beer, heh
06:51:52 <DHess_US> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=za5zLvKIzAU
06:51:52 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: [1217] Mesa Hotel Safe: Three Vulnerabilities
06:55:10 <electrohead> hotel safes, heh
06:56:51 <DHess_US> Useful to hold your wallet after hiring a hooker, and maybe not even good enough for that.
06:57:01 <electrohead> lol
06:58:03 <watcher> it will be for a empty wallet
06:59:03 <DHess_US> If it was truly empty, then why do you have a wallet?
06:59:21 <electrohead> "ID holder"
07:00:04 <watcher> for the criminals that go to my hotelroom and think that my diamant and watch of $15k are in that safe. i it like a honeypot
07:00:13 <watcher> I - see it
07:01:13 <electrohead> that's when you put a camera inside the safe, heh
07:01:49 <watcher> a cheap one with gps tracker to know where the criminal's house is
07:02:01 <TheDude> lol
07:02:17 <watcher> so that i can get back my wallet and actioncam
07:02:26 <TheDude> your watch is gone and all you have is a video of a hairy hand reaching into the safe and taking the belongings :D
07:03:36 <DHess_US> For something small like that, I would consider a secret drawer in furniture.
07:03:37 <watcher> no my watch is not gone because it is on a safer place and i have a vid from a hand that but the wallet and actioncam in to a bag
07:04:15 <watcher> then you need to change the lock. the stock lock is also not that secure
07:05:31 <watcher> i will go now bye bye
07:05:35 Quit: watcher ([email protected]) Quit: i'am out
07:06:13 <TheDude> hidden compartment in furniture is definitely safer than a shitty safe hidden in the wall behind a hanging picture
07:07:07 <DHess_US> You can buy very nice furniture which had hidden compartments, and if you can afford that watch, you can have it custom made.
07:07:25 <DHess_US> There are companies that specialize in that sort of thing.
07:07:35 <TheDude> a 15k watch is not that bloody unreachable ffs :D
07:08:05 <TheDude> not many people can afford it to wear everyday, but many can afford it as an investment
07:12:23 <DHess_US> I have the spare key to my safe duct taped to the bottom of a bathroom drawer.
07:15:25 <electrohead> https://imgur.com/a/qWuTgUt - was asked to post pictures earlier
07:15:25 <EEVBot> [Title] - Imgur: The magic of the Internet
07:15:40 <electrohead> have included both cat tax, and PCB repair tax
07:15:45 <electrohead> err, before the start of it
07:15:47 <T3sl4> meow
07:16:07 <TheDude> kitty \o/
07:16:11 <TheDude> and a shitton of junk food
07:16:13 <electrohead> yay for buying a PA / amplifier for dirt cheap, off of a friend's somewhat sketchy friend, heh
07:16:33 <electrohead> plus the "man's beer" heh
07:17:02 <electrohead> so I'm waiting on parts before I start that repair
07:17:06 <electrohead> it's going to be interesting
07:17:27 <electrohead> the top most semi-circle like piece already broke loose, so yeah
07:23:54 <electrohead> T3sl4: I was thinking using epoxy and .. something else, to make the broken sections sturdy
07:24:21 <electrohead> I've done it in the past for smaller PCB repairs, so, my question - any thoughts/ideas?
07:24:54 Quit: Skaface82 ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
07:28:11 <T3sl4> hahaha, so this pepper i grew from seed, in my spiderplant pot
07:28:31 <T3sl4> it made one whole jalapeno, which ripened red the last week, after months of waiting
07:28:35 Join: Skaface82 ([email protected]) to #eevblog
07:28:55 <T3sl4> it's not hot. at all. it's like a slender bell pepper
07:29:14 <T3sl4> i just thought that was cute :P
07:30:11 <T3sl4> electrohead: uh, sure. it's phenolic, so epoxy will stick fine. you gotta patch up every one of those traces tho, and they're paper thin
07:30:22 <T3sl4> can epoxy down more foil and carve that up, but is it really worth it?
07:30:45 <electrohead> I'm not worried about the traces, that's the easy part
07:31:00 <Ampera> I think I've broken a personal record playing Factorio
07:31:10 <electrohead> well, it's just something I want to do
07:31:14 <Ampera> how long it took to tear down a significant part of my build because it got too messy
07:31:23 * electrohead messes upon Ampera
07:33:30 <electrohead> T3sl4: speaking of peppers, I want to get a grow lamp and attempt to grow habanero peppers indoors, this winter, for the fuck of it
07:33:42 <T3sl4> :)
07:34:07 <DHess_US> I scrape the coating off of the traces, and solder down wire along the entire length of the traces.
07:34:23 <Ampera> electrohead, do it hydroponically
07:34:27 <Ampera> or at least attempt it
07:34:29 <DHess_US> Can't just use solder if the trace is cracked.
07:34:36 <electrohead> DHess_US: yeah I do the same, but it's just filling in the hole on the PCB
07:35:04 <T3sl4> i'll fill your hole
07:35:16 <DHess_US> That's what she said!
07:35:27 <electrohead> it's decently small, yet it's big enough that either I should fill it in with .. epoxy or something similar, or just enlarge the hole, and fill it with <insert something something cut board here>
07:35:31 <electrohead> Lol
07:36:13 <DHess_US> epoxy would be best, but a good hobby cyanoacrylate would be easier because it would wick itself inside.
07:36:35 <T3sl4> gotta be careful cuz CA decomposes at temp
07:37:31 <electrohead> hell, I even thought about (just to try and see how this would potentially work out) grabbing a PCB from the junk bin with no components on it, cut a piece off, cut and grind it to small hunks/dust, and mixing that in with the epoxy
07:37:37 <electrohead> was a complete random thought
07:38:05 <T3sl4> fiberglass loading helps, yes
07:38:20 <DHess_US> The problem with using cyanoacrylate is that the heating from soldering late will release it, but that is also the case with many epoxies.
07:38:22 <electrohead> T3sl4, DHess_US: you guys ever try that?
07:38:37 Quit: Skaface82 ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
07:38:44 <electrohead> heh, yeah that's why I'm pondering ideas currently
07:38:46 <DHess_US> electrohead, why would you do that?
07:39:04 <DHess_US> Many epoxies make good fillers.
07:39:19 <DHess_US> You don't need to mix a powder in with them.
07:39:55 <electrohead> well I've done that already in the past with sawdust, for a wood based project, turned out well
07:40:00 <electrohead> hence, the thought
07:40:02 <electrohead> :p
07:40:05 <DHess_US> https://miller-stephenson.com/product/ms-907-two-part-epoxy-adhesive/
07:40:07 <EEVBot> [Title] - MS-907 Two-Part Epoxy Adhesive Kit | Epoxy Kit | Miller-Stephenson
07:40:23 <DHess_US> https://www.amazon.com/Loctite-Hysol-gram-Epoxy-Adhesive/dp/B000WXDLAQ
07:40:24 <EEVBot> [Title] - Sorry! Something went wrong!
07:40:42 <DHess_US> Same epoxy basically but excellent for this sort of application.
07:40:54 <T3sl4> here's a classic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBi40aq4-t0
07:40:55 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: Multilayer Repair
07:40:56 <DHess_US> Has a long working time though. Have to wait a day.
07:41:13 <T3sl4> to be clear, most off the shelf epoxy is pretty low temp and gets gooey or may release at soldering temp
07:41:22 <DHess_US> Not real heat resistant either, although it works great for affixing heat sinks.
07:41:33 <T3sl4> all epoxy softens at high temp anyway, the thing is just if the bond stays
07:41:43 <DHess_US> these don't get gooey
07:41:57 <DHess_US> Strong ammonia smell if you burn them though.
07:42:07 Join: Skaface82 ([email protected]) to #eevblog
07:42:12 <T3sl4> oh lovely
07:42:26 <DHess_US> One nice thing about them is that they don't get gooey when you sand them, although that doesn't matter here.
07:42:55 <T3sl4> to be clear, there's oodles of epoxy formulations, the ones you get at the hardware store are the least toxic and generally low temp kind
07:43:06 <T3sl4> the good industrial ones are usually special order
07:43:18 <T3sl4> ofc, you can get anything on amazon
07:43:38 <T3sl4> i mean, special as in industrial suppliers, electronics distributors etc
07:45:28 <DHess_US> We used to use a lot of the 3M epoxies but I don't remember which ones for what, https://www.amazon.com/s?k=3m+epoxy&crid=I5ZOCAXGRQXS&sprefix=3m+epoxy%2Caps%2C193&ref=nb_sb_noss_1
07:45:29 <EEVBot> [Title] - Sorry! Something went wrong!
07:45:52 <DHess_US> The two tube dispenser is really nice so you get the right ratio.
07:48:12 <T3sl4> yeah
07:48:45 <T3sl4> unless you need just a little amount, that can be sticky
07:48:51 <DHess_US> Store the epoxy in the refrigerator when not using and the shelf life will be extended by years to decades.
07:49:07 <DHess_US> still better than separate tubes
07:49:19 <T3sl4> yeah
07:49:34 <DHess_US> The 3M system is really nice though. I never had a problem plunging out just a tiny bit in the right ratio.
07:49:43 <electrohead> that multilayer repair video is soothing
07:49:49 <DHess_US> I know we used DP420, but we had like two other DP series also.
07:50:17 <T3sl4> also they make dispensers, really handy if you need a lot of it
07:50:24 <T3sl4> with the mixing tip
07:52:35 <DHess_US> Yes, the mixing tip thing is really nice, but you have to be using a lot of it to make the waste worthwhile.
07:52:50 <DHess_US> Like using half a dispenser or the whole thing, which we regularly did.
07:53:09 <DHess_US> I only used a tiny bit at a time so never using the mixing tip.
07:53:18 <T3sl4> yup
07:54:06 <DHess_US> Those epoxies aren't as good as the 907 I linked for most stuff, but they were better than what you find in a retail store, except maybe a good hobby store.
07:54:21 <T3sl4> oh, there is one hardware store item that's good for temp, jb weld is unironically quite strong even at temp
07:54:30 <DHess_US> They might handle high temperature better than 907, dunno.
07:54:40 <electrohead> I was literally just looking at JB weld, too
07:54:42 <T3sl4> but it's metal loaded so you might not want to use it in electronics. it does generally insulate at least
07:54:51 <DHess_US> I really like that you can buy Hyson on Amazon now.
07:54:56 <DHess_US> err, Hysol
07:55:15 <electrohead> so you two approve of Hysol?
07:55:17 <DHess_US> I would want something that flows better than JB weld.
07:55:28 <DHess_US> Either of the 907 epoxies I linked.
07:55:33 <DHess_US> They are the same thing.
07:55:38 <electrohead> yeah fair enough
07:58:09 Quit: Skaface82 ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
08:02:25 Join: Skaface82 ([email protected]) to #eevblog
08:11:01 <electrohead> alright, that's ordered
08:11:05 <electrohead> thanks for the recommendation
08:11:14 * T3sl4 disorders electrohead
08:11:15 <electrohead> I really want to get this PCB repaired and working
08:11:30 * electrohead strangles T3sl4 with a random mouse cord
08:11:37 <electrohead> *also offers a beer
08:11:54 <T3sl4> nice, but it's hard to drink
08:12:01 <T3sl4> a little choky
08:17:20 <electrohead> lol :p
08:27:14 <DHess_US> electrohead, what did you order? The Hysol 907 from amazon?
08:28:05 <DHess_US> Last time I bought it I got like 3 packs from Miller Stephonson for like $9 each.
08:28:19 <DHess_US> You could buy directly from them in small quantities then.
08:29:29 <DHess_US> I think you still can, but it is not as convenient as Amazon.
08:30:00 <DHess_US> I don't know when Loctite bought Hysol.
08:30:03 <electrohead> I ordered it from amazon, for the time being
08:30:12 <electrohead> and yeah, the 907
08:30:29 <DHess_US> It is great stuff. I use it to attach heat sinks to TO-92 transistors, or anything else.
08:30:39 <DHess_US> When I can't clamp or bolt it.
08:30:40 <electrohead> oh cool, ok, thanks man!
08:30:51 <DHess_US> But never count on gettign the heat sink off later.
08:30:56 <electrohead> heh
08:31:13 <DHess_US> One application for it is attaching things to glass, like windshields.
08:31:17 <electrohead> oh fuck, I do need to track down the 10K pot, that's the last thing I need
08:34:43 <electrohead> hrmm, well I actually found it on amazon, however delivery time says between December 1st and December 22nd
08:34:47 <electrohead> Guh
08:36:00 <DHess_US> You could mix it with aluminum oxide to make a better thermal epoxy.
08:38:29 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - Incredible! They found her! https://t.co/bBuYf1qamQ
08:41:14 <electrohead> so I can't find the exact potentiometer within the US, with fast shipping
08:41:30 <electrohead> I *have* found it, but .. delivery times are longer than expected
08:50:27 Join: arch ([email protected]) to #eevblog
08:54:20 <electrohead> that's ordered, too
08:54:29 <electrohead> yay, all parts are on the way
09:12:35 Quit: TheDude ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
09:20:12 <arch> what did you buy?
09:20:17 <arch> tentacles?
09:20:40 <arch> electrohead, i got a few of my work buddies into PCB design. it's fun.
09:33:58 Quit: coppice ([email protected]) Quit: Konversation terminated!
09:34:55 <electrohead> parts for repairing a PCB
09:34:59 <electrohead> lol
09:35:11 <electrohead> yeah I need to tackle that soon
09:49:59 Join: Tezzers| ([email protected]) to #eevblog
10:35:30 <arch> guys, i asked this question yesterday, but does anyone know what those TO-247 MOSFETs with isolated tabs are called? need to find some from digikey
10:44:21 <T3sl4> arch: just fullpacks?
10:44:33 <T3sl4> some do DBC iso tabs but you'll have to look em up
12:07:23 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - NEW Video on EEVblog2! Flux AI PCB Design and the Errors Startups Make https://t.co/2JmQ0TsDe0
12:13:28 <arch> ok
12:56:12 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - That's pretty big news. Got to be way safer than holding at a private exchange. Also, @CommBank will these assets f… https://t.co/qpICGlrCjk
13:28:19 Join: MRiddickW ([email protected]) to #eevblog
14:09:55 <electrohead> https://old.reddit.com/r/IdiotsInCars/comments/qlc4s3/i_give_him_a_710/
14:09:56 <EEVBot> [Title] - Too Many Requests
14:16:13 Join: Kuschelpony ([email protected]) to #eevblog
14:29:25 Quit: Kuschelpony ([email protected]) Connection closed
14:35:27 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - Literally every time I log into (Cardano) Daedalus Mainnet there is an update. Still unsure if this is a good thing or a bad thing.
14:45:15 Quit: Tezzers| ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
14:51:06 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - The most authentic crypto coin, it lives up to it's name, Loser coin. https://t.co/1T70dOM3sT
14:56:54 <T3sl4> hmm, definitely suspecting these habaneros aren't shit
14:57:09 <T3sl4> i put like a dozen in the chili pot, and just chopped one more into my bowl
14:57:18 <T3sl4> still not breaking a sweat
15:33:16 Quit: arch ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
15:58:33 <DHess_US> https://mobile.twitter.com/RollingStones/status/1454064195322908674
16:37:26 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - RT @DanielBogdanoff: This YouTube ad is 65 minutes long!? And it seems like it just repeats every ~90 seconds? Feels like a "only pay for c…
16:54:48 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - The price of avocado toast WAS directly correlated to the housing price, it was stable for generations. Now avocado… https://t.co/11FLBF3CTx
16:55:00 Quit: modrobert ([email protected]) Quit: Lost terminal
17:03:18 Join: modrobert ([email protected]) to #eevblog
17:06:51 Quit: MRiddickW ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
18:03:56 <+Ysjoelfir> mornings
18:04:08 <T3sl4> a Ysjoelfir!
18:04:15 <+Ysjoelfir> eeew, where?
18:04:26 <T3sl4> kill it with fire!
18:07:23 * Ysjoelfir ignites the torch
18:07:25 <+Ysjoelfir> lets go!
18:07:40 * T3sl4 crackles with plasma
18:08:54 * Ysjoelfir has a torch made from fir, so has crackling as well
18:09:06 <+Ysjoelfir> though mine smells nice, too
18:09:11 <T3sl4> tsorchfir
18:09:23 <+Ysjoelfir> xD
19:08:44 <K> hello faxes
19:11:24 <steve30> hi
19:25:02 <+Ysjoelfir> mornings steve and L
19:28:11 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - Acronym of day! - BYOL Bring Your Own Licence a.k.a Hack It https://t.co/xkWVsiFOsp
19:29:49 <K> L!
19:29:58 <T3sl4> MNOP!
19:30:17 <K> such insolence!
19:30:44 <K> DTMWTDIWTYWTG!
19:31:18 <+Ysjoelfir> WYSIWYG!
19:35:19 <T3sl4> omgwtfbbq
19:35:51 <+Ysjoelfir> BBQ!
19:35:55 <+Ysjoelfir> gimme all of that
19:36:43 * T3sl4 bbqs the fragrant fir
19:37:26 <T3sl4> seems a bit redundant given the preceeding, but to each their own
19:40:28 <+Ysjoelfir> XD
19:40:40 <+Ysjoelfir> redundancy is key!
19:41:02 <K> who are you calling a rhododendron?
19:41:19 * Ysjoelfir rhododendrizes K
19:41:32 * K squeaks
19:42:18 * Ysjoelfir squirrelizes K
19:44:34 * T3sl4 adorns K in rhodochrosite
19:45:20 <K> one of these days you will seak in something googling which will put me on a list
19:45:43 <hsn> yes
19:45:51 <K> hello hsn
19:45:59 <hsn> hello Potasiums
19:45:59 <EEVBot> Hello, hsn!
19:46:07 <K> how are you and how is sand?
19:46:18 <hsn> sand is doing good
19:46:27 <hsn> im fcked since my college left me alone
19:46:46 <K> where'd he fuck off to?
19:46:54 <hsn> and now im back to be everything on the project.. hardware software quality documentation build test etc
19:47:08 <hsn> he went to another company that pays on time lol
19:47:45 <K> dang :/
19:47:46 <T3sl4> lol
19:48:06 <K> can you leave?
19:48:21 <hsn> i dont want to leave electronics
19:48:28 <hsn> and bahrain doesnt have electronics
19:48:35 <T3sl4> imagine theres not much there, yeah
19:48:37 <hsn> except this company :)
19:48:40 <K> ah.
19:49:10 <hsn> and some PLC debug in industries which im not intrested in ..
19:49:40 <K> situation does not spark joy
19:49:51 <T3sl4> still picking stuxnet out of the boxen over there? :P
19:50:17 <hsn> hah no thats iran thingy right ?:D
19:52:13 <T3sl4> as i recall it hit some other applications mistakenly, mostly in the general geographic area, and sometimes others, but yeah that was seemingly the intent
19:54:48 <hsn> cyber stuff is real :)
19:54:49 <K> worm be like "oy where all your centrifuges at" and washing machine factory weeps in the corner
19:56:40 * T3sl4 spins K right round, baby
19:56:50 <K> no touching!
19:57:03 <T3sl4> it's inductive, no contact :)
19:58:00 <hsn> i would imagine developing stuxnet like malware cost millions
19:58:14 <T3sl4> we'll never know
19:59:13 <K> intel on what and how to hit prolly cost more
20:02:54 <T3sl4> possible
20:05:10 <T3sl4> i wonder how you'd quantify the cost of intel anyway
20:05:23 <T3sl4> not like we'd be privvy to such info anyway :/
20:06:48 <hsn> lol the college who left just asked me about HR number .. i think they still didnt settle his money :D
20:09:23 <K> huh
20:11:44 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - I had no idea that Australian AS3112 sockets went up to 32A. https://t.co/8uCqORyZ5G
20:19:40 <K> for a short while they might even go up to 64A !
20:20:28 <T3sl4> our shit NEMA-6's even do 1000A, if it's just a few ms
20:26:36 <K> free bbq time!
20:29:02 <T3sl4> a feast for your eyeballs!
20:32:24 <K> scrumptious!
20:52:38 * Ysjoelfir sings with power
20:53:13 <+Ysjoelfir> Stand and scream for all the world to diiiiiiiiiie!!!!!! RAISE! YUOR! FIST! Evaaaaaaaaaangeliiiiiiiiiiist!!!!!!!!
20:53:44 * T3sl4 plays some power chords
20:56:33 * K calls the police about loud music and domestic violence
20:59:10 <jaymax> *sirens*
21:01:13 <K> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_g4DHxMvu8
21:01:13 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: Song to the Siren - The Chemical Bothers
21:01:24 <T3sl4> domestic? this is international, better call interpol
21:02:52 <K> interpopo
21:08:38 <jaymax> federales
21:09:07 Join: steve31 ([email protected]) to #eevblog
21:09:37 <jaymax> Team America: World Police
21:11:21 <T3sl4> matt damon
21:11:53 <jaymax> Met...DAAAmoooonn
21:12:46 <jaymax> Wone-weee. I'm...so wone-weeee...
21:14:25 <K> this is getting out of hand.
21:15:35 <T3sl4> now there's two of them?
21:16:22 <K> yes
21:16:37 <K> Gandalf, engage!
21:16:59 <T3sl4> leviosa!
21:18:55 <K> Gotta catch them all!
21:23:02 * Ysjoelfir throws a Pokeball at the group
21:23:26 * T3sl4 taps Ysjoelfir (for mana)
21:23:34 <K> mhh
21:23:43 * Ysjoelfir bursts into flames
21:23:55 <K> metric or unc ?
21:24:51 <K> (inb4 witworth)
21:26:04 <T3sl4> Ysjoelfir only fits metric threads
21:26:17 <T3sl4> but, they're wood screw type, because Ysjoel fir
21:30:09 <steve31> i've just done some dumbbell squats and now my leg muscles hurt when i bend over
21:30:22 <T3sl4> sounds right
21:31:59 <steve31> well, that's the first time i've managed squats and bench presses this year
21:32:29 * steve31 collapses onto T3sl4
21:32:50 * T3sl4 gets steve31 the weighted duvet
21:36:34 * steve31 purrs
21:46:58 * jaymax pets the steve30, or the steve30000, or maybe even the steve31
21:47:32 * steve31 purrs at jaymax
21:47:42 <jaymax> Too many Steve3's
21:54:42 Join: watcher ([email protected]) to #eevblog
21:59:16 <Ampera> good morgilo
21:59:27 <Ampera> you are all a nightmare, and you are all a bad dream
22:00:53 <watcher> thank Ampera
22:02:47 <Ampera> you're welcome horrible apparition of my mind
22:10:33 * T3sl4 hallucinates Ampera a bit
22:11:22 * Ampera trips on T3sl4's balls
22:11:58 Quit: steve31 ([email protected]) Quit: Leaving
22:13:00 <T3sl4> please, have a ball :)
22:13:54 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - Former fusion scientist on why we won't have fusion power by 2040 https://t.co/GE5dy5UwC6 via @YouTube
22:17:01 Quit: watcher ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
22:39:56 Join: watcher ([email protected]) to #eevblog
23:02:37 * steve30 could do with some sleep
23:02:48 * Ampera gives steve30 a nice hot cup of spiced tea
23:02:55 <steve30> :/
23:03:10 * Ampera gives steve30 a knuckle sandwich to go with it >:(
23:03:20 <steve30> :\
23:03:22 <Ampera> now we're both mad and I blame you
23:15:51 <K> quick to blame
23:17:12 * Ampera bakes a potato and offers it to K
23:23:19 <DHess_US> “You want to bathe? Or eat a potato? That calms humans.” “It does?” “Well, people who have run out of potatoes are supposed to be very excitable, so I’m assuming the complement.”
23:40:10 <K> hah
23:40:29 <K> where is that from?
23:47:17 <DHess_US> A Man-Kzin war story called String by Hal Colebatch and Matthew Jeseph Harrington
23:48:01 <DHess_US> #12, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man-Kzin_Wars
23:48:03 <EEVBot> [Title] - Man-Kzin Wars - Wikipedia
23:56:35 Quit: watcher ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
23:57:44 Join: arch ([email protected]) to #eevblog
Search this day's buffer: