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00:00:08 <Ysjoelfir> no, I actually quite like them. IF they tell me something usefull
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00:05:06 <rust_collector> EEVBoot might be around soon, lol
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00:09:57 <K> hrm
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00:23:23 <Lord_of_nothing_> omg somewhat, something trief to charge my creditcard from 2013!?
00:23:40 <Lord_of_nothing_> amix found out just today about that
00:23:59 <Lord_of_nothing_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ig9tveIsgj0
00:24:01 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: SHIVA KUM HA by Kurt Razelli
00:24:57 <Lord_of_nothing_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmlb0uMguww
00:24:58 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: BARBIEPUPPEN BLOND by Kurt Razelli
00:27:29 <Lord_of_nothing_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJ_qNgDHgvI
00:27:30 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: VANESSA OIDA by Kurt Razelli
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01:14:35 <rust_collector> time to go. have funs
01:28:06 <K> runsssss
01:28:58 <DHess_US> https://old.reddit.com/r/Whatcouldgowrong/comments/nv0vox/wcgw_speeding_through_a_railway_crossing/
01:28:58 <Ysjoelfir> yezzzzzzzzz!
01:29:41 <Ysjoelfir> whoops
01:33:04 <Ysjoelfir> I would love to know what that song is though. it sounds.... interesting
01:36:05 <Ysjoelfir> hah!
01:36:25 <Ysjoelfir> seems to be Мама Джан from Домбай
01:36:48 <Ysjoelfir> though that piece in the vid seems to be way better than the overal song.
01:53:05 <steve30> o/
01:56:33 <Ysjoelfir> mornings steve
02:17:07 <Lemon> hmmm the fg-100 I received awfully looks like the real deal
02:17:37 <Lemon> sensors, no
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03:17:23 <Ysjoelfir> the who?
03:29:44 <Ysjoelfir> Fascinating. Just had an Error that fucked up my system. Error message was: "Hidden Window: 3DxVirtualLCD.exe - System error. A new Protectionpage for the stack can" - with a button that had no text in it
03:34:08 <hsn> Lemon: why u slap your country boss?
03:34:23 <Lemon> wat
03:34:31 <Lemon> ha yes !
03:34:32 <hsn> Macron right?
03:34:36 <Lemon> my mother just told me that lol
03:34:40 <Lemon> didnt see what happenned
03:34:46 <Lemon> probably deserved tho
03:34:46 <hsn> Lol i saw the video
03:34:59 <hsn> He first shake hand then slap
03:35:26 <hsn> https://www.instagram.com/p/CP3E7wbnR0T/
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04:04:19 <TheDude> g'day
04:04:30 <electrohead> o/
04:09:11 <Ysjoelfir> mornings mistresses Dude and HEad
04:09:15 <DHess_US> Time to check if any COVID stabs are available ... nope. And it looks like they are shutting down vaccination centers.
04:09:52 * TheDude is getting his 5G implants on thursday \o/
04:10:22 * electrohead runs away fast
04:10:23 <TheDude> I look forward to having better mobile reception and the ability to hear through walls
04:10:56 <DHess_US> Hmm, walls ...
04:30:55 <Lord_of_nothing_> @form Servus du bist aus dE?
04:31:58 <Ysjoelfir> eh? more nasty djermens?
04:34:39 <Lord_of_nothing_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9MTGNaEXGM
04:34:40 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: Jozin z Bazin polskie napisy
04:35:58 <Lord_of_nothing_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjzxIx_anno
04:35:58 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: HalliGalli-Notfallband: Jokožin z Klaasžin (Jožin z bažin Parodie) | Circus HalliGalli | ProSieben
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04:49:51 <Ysjoelfir> ooooh come on!
04:49:59 <Ysjoelfir> is that starting again, Guest|1855?
04:52:13 <electrohead> maybe possibly
04:52:14 <Lord_of_nothing_> OMG! HOW CREEPY!!!
04:52:14 <Lord_of_nothing_> https://de.aliexpress.com/item/32277218341.html
04:52:15 <electrohead> :p
04:52:24 <Ysjoelfir> mornings again mr. head
04:52:41 <electrohead> hey man
04:52:44 <electrohead> Lord_of_nothing_: page not found
04:53:02 <Lord_of_nothing_> https://de.aliexpress.com/item/32277218341.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.0.0.764e42e6vkkLQN&gps-id=pcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller&scm=1007.13339.169870.0&scm_id=1007.13339.169870.0&scm-url=1007.13339.169870.0&pvid=bebb146a-b386-42ae-bdb4-bbde82f4dfa9&_t=gps-id:pcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller,scm-url:1007.13339.169870.0,pvid:bebb146a-b386-42ae-bdb4-bbde82f4dfa9,
04:53:02 <Lord_of_nothing_> tpp_buckets:668%230%23131923%2351_668%230%23131923%2351_668%23888%233325%238_668%23888%233325%238_668%232846%238112%231997_668%235811%2327186%2371_668%232717%237560%23271_668%231000022185%231000066059%230_668%233468%2315617%23839_668%232846%238112%231997_668%235811%2327186%2371_668%232717%237560%23271_668%233164%239976%23630_668%233468%2315617%2383
04:53:02 <Lord_of_nothing_> 9
04:53:03 <EEVBot> [Title] - Page Not Found - Aliexpress.com
04:54:29 <Lord_of_nothing_> maybe its better so...
04:54:39 <Lord_of_nothing_> there are A LOT of creepy stuff on aliepress
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04:56:57 <Ysjoelfir> Guest|1855
04:57:02 <Ysjoelfir> come on man, last warning
04:58:06 <Lord_of_nothing_> ?!
04:58:22 <Ysjoelfir> !!
04:59:32 <Lord_of_nothing_> ...?
04:59:38 <Ysjoelfir> ...!
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05:05:42 * Lord_of_nothing_ test
05:05:45 <Lord_of_nothing_> yey it works
05:06:08 <Lord_of_nothing_> is there no help?
05:06:26 <Ysjoelfir> no help for what exactly?
05:08:18 <Lord_of_nothing_> the commands who are permit by the server
05:08:34 <Lord_of_nothing_> YEY--->
05:08:34 <Lord_of_nothing_> 08/06/2021 17:54 Das Paket ist im Paketzentrum eingetroffen; das Paket wurde manuell sortiert. GLS Standort Österreich Ansfelden
05:11:16 <Ysjoelfir> What is it?
05:16:27 <Lord_of_nothing_> my scooter
05:16:36 <Lord_of_nothing_> hopefully it arrive here soon
05:31:56 <Lord_of_nothing_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIN9FdCc15k
05:31:57 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: Schwarze Puppen - Schwarze Puppen (Original Mix) [Official]
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05:48:33 <Halcyon> Morning
05:48:44 <Ysjoelfir> mornings hal
05:49:02 <Halcyon> What's happening?
05:51:34 <Ysjoelfir> not much, getting ready for bed basically. eg. watching a few news and seeing what happened today and whatnot
05:51:54 <Halcyon> Fair enough
05:52:31 <MrMobodies> Hello
05:52:51 <MrMobodies> I found this in the Youtube Suggestions, I clicked on it
05:52:55 <MrMobodies> just found it again
05:52:55 <Halcyon> Hey MrMobodies
05:53:01 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/st8Mu2Y.jpg
05:53:09 <MrMobodies> see that, channel 5 logo at the bottom in the captop
05:53:18 <MrMobodies> but not the top left corner
05:53:28 <MrMobodies> I click that
05:53:29 <Halcyon> Yeh?
05:54:07 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/xG3bAw9.jpg
05:54:32 <MrMobodies> what is a tv show/ film where I notice something, on the picture that was not part of the product, more than anything else?
05:54:42 <MrMobodies> *production
05:55:11 <Ysjoelfir> You are comparing a still image thumbnail with a video.
05:55:14 <Halcyon> Brand recognition ?
05:55:15 <MrMobodies> I know did that when I last saw stuff over 10 years ago during commercial, advertising a film and
05:55:20 <MrMobodies> I couldn't watch it
05:55:29 <MrMobodies> so distracting i notice it more than anything else on the picture
05:55:47 <Halcyon> They call that persistant logo on the screen a "bug"
05:56:09 <Ysjoelfir> well.... can't avoid that I think. just don't watch it and leave a comment why you don't. that might help if enough people do that
05:56:23 <MrMobodies> I remembered in the 80's channel 4, they came for a while, during films a couple of minutes and disappeared
05:56:31 <MrMobodies> in 2000 or al lthe 5 channels stopped it
05:56:31 <Halcyon> Anyway, time for work
05:56:32 <Halcyon> Later guys
05:56:47 <Ysjoelfir> enjoy
05:56:58 <MrMobodies> but Channel 5 in 2007, itv in 2010? and film 4 in 2017 brought it back
05:57:06 <MrMobodies> oh byt
05:57:37 <MrMobodies> that's when I stopped seeing stuff and paid for Youtube premium
05:57:50 <Lemon> I built a D flip flop !
05:57:55 <Lemon> and it works like its supposed to !
05:57:59 <MrMobodies> okay
05:58:00 <Ysjoelfir> what is that youtube premium for?
05:58:02 <Ysjoelfir> nice Lemon
05:58:21 <MrMobodies> well without ads and that and i see not all content creators do the channel logo thing
05:58:21 <Lemon> but shit, it takes space on breadboards lol
05:58:53 <Lemon> if I understand right, with 4 of them + an astable multivibrator as a clock, I should be able to build a 4 bit counter
05:59:00 <MrMobodies> but I didn't expect channel 5 to appear, show me a caption and still in their bad old deceptive ways, showing me one thing and I see another thing (that affects my viewing of content)
06:01:43 <MrMobodies> aah I found this, didn't notice it in the context menu before
06:01:44 <MrMobodies> blob:https://imgur.com/60e83434-fb5a-4bce-91b5-1704e0e3a6ed
06:01:45 <MrMobodies> oops
06:01:51 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/3Ccv8dT.jpg
06:02:07 <MrMobodies> won't be a problem anymore when I see rubbish channels that I know ruin their content
06:02:40 <MrMobodies> One good improvement with Youtube
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06:03:55 <Lemon> Ysjoelfir with d flip flops, as long as I add one, it adds one bit right ? 4 of them 4 bits, so 0 to 15, another one and thats 0 to 31, and so on ?
06:04:42 <Lemon> a binary clock shouldnt be out of my reach I think
06:04:51 <Lemon> but it will take a hella lot of 2n2222 lol
06:06:19 <MrMobodies> can you take photos of your D flip flop?
06:06:27 <MrMobodies> breadboard thing
06:06:46 <Lemon> sure thing
06:06:59 <Lemon> its not the best arrangement
06:07:02 <Lemon> but it works :>
06:07:11 <Lemon> I was learning it step by step
06:08:17 <Lemon> https://imgur.com/lEYFGSP
06:08:18 <EEVBot> [Title] - Imgur: The magic of the Internet
06:08:39 <Lemon> erf its not in the wrong orientation
06:08:40 <Lemon> but anyway
06:08:43 * Ampera squeeze-hugs the Lemon
06:08:48 <Ampera> how are you doing?
06:08:49 <Lemon> on the left you have and gates
06:08:52 <Lemon> right, nor gates
06:09:03 <Lemon> ho im doing ok, playing with transistors as you can see :>
06:09:04 <Ampera> and front and center you have bill gates
06:09:05 <Lemon> and you ?
06:09:12 <Lemon> exactly
06:09:15 <Ampera> I am gradually feeling less and less dead
06:09:29 <Lemon> thats a good thing !
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06:35:52 <steve30> well, after 3 hours of sleep, i'm wide awake
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06:44:39 <Ampera> at least you're wide
07:32:35 <MrMobodies> sorry Lemon I was on the phone
07:32:41 <MrMobodies> I just rotate the image
07:32:42 <MrMobodies> blob:https://imgur.com/f9dbbbef-5d44-4c0c-b5a7-f1cbd3e95d95
07:32:48 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/TcXRDRd.jpg
07:33:00 <MrMobodies> and is that a Knippex cutters in the background?
07:33:01 <Lemon> no worries :>
07:33:06 <Lemon> it is yes !
07:33:24 <rust_collector> no they are real knipex, not the chinese knippex
07:33:32 <MrMobodies> it looks like a nice tool
07:33:45 <Lemon> a bit too the left (it cant be seen) theres a long thin needlenose knipex aswell
07:33:50 <Lemon> yeah they are super nice
07:33:59 <Lemon> and they got a little rentention thingie, so legs dont fly
07:34:17 <MrMobodies> I got one down the boosale for £2 but it is old and tatty but still cuts good
07:34:58 <Lemon> as long as it works :>
07:35:16 <Lemon> I like to spend some money on handtools, as they will probably last a lifetime if I take care of them
07:35:22 <Lemon> I heard good things about plato cutters
07:37:21 <rust_collector> problem with those are that most of the time the plato markings disappear while being shipped, so you just get some random little snips with blue handles
07:37:42 <rust_collector> xuron is also pretty good
07:37:52 <MrMobodies> found it
07:39:50 <Lemon> im tempted to grab a plato, and use it on things its not made to
07:40:05 <Lemon> because sometimes I hesitate to use my knipex one if its too thick
07:40:15 <Lemon> well I have another knipex which is a needlenose/cutter
07:40:18 <Lemon> but still
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07:40:46 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/LsB95Jr.jpg
07:40:55 <MrMobodies> I don't know if they are fake of genuine though
07:41:02 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/zTb8HLe.jpg
07:42:50 <Lemon> looks good :>
07:42:53 <MrMobodies> your one looks more heavy duty than mine
07:42:54 <Lemon> usa usa !
07:43:01 <MrMobodies> the bolt looks thicker on yours
07:43:04 <Lemon> oof heavy duty not really
07:43:13 <Lemon> its really meant for component legs, and thin wire
07:43:36 <MrMobodies> I notice it was good at knipping at tough small things
07:43:44 <MrMobodies> and plastics
07:44:01 <rust_collector> I have some xuron "rail cutters" for snipping off model train tracks. it does well on other things as well
07:44:09 <Lemon> https://www.amazon.com/Knipex-2502160-4-Inch-Pliers-Cutter/dp/B0001P0BZS/ref=pd_lpo_469_t_1/142-7417605-0547333?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B0001P0BZS&pd_rd_r=cc3a4e52-7cea-4519-a616-851af4c655de&pd_rd_w=88H4c&pd_rd_wg=zG49d&pf_rd_p=3b5203d9-bdd0-47f6-97e5-387010fc3251&pf_rd_r=X216VSG6WKTG95BZX4Z9&psc=1&refRID=X216VSG6WKTG95BZX4Z9
07:44:10 <EEVBot> [Title] - Sorry! Something went wrong!
07:44:15 <Lemon> I have those too
07:44:29 <Lemon> I dont know about those xuron
07:44:45 <Lemon> one I kinda want is a front flush cutter
07:44:59 <Lemon> but knipex ones are like, 40 euros+
07:45:08 <Lemon> 20-25 per plier is already a lot for me
07:45:21 <MrMobodies> https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/6190S37157L._SL1500_.jpg
07:45:52 <MrMobodies> those rail cutter blades i mean the shape look similar to this knippex
07:46:11 <MrMobodies> it's got the empty bit in the middle
07:46:17 <rust_collector> not many ways to make a flush cutter
07:49:32 <Lemon> I think wiha makes some really tiny ones
07:51:04 <MrMobodies> actually my fault
07:51:24 <MrMobodies> it's not a knippex on the label Xukon
07:51:31 <MrMobodies> like the one you said
07:51:36 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/bdf126u.png
07:51:52 <Lemon> yeah yours looks quite tinier
07:51:54 <MrMobodies> has the same shape so the green one is a rail cutter
07:51:58 <Lemon> better for modelism I think
07:52:30 <Lemon> https://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B002UU3R7Q/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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07:52:34 <Lemon> heres the last one I bought
07:52:40 <Lemon> and I must say I quite like it
07:52:53 <Lemon> now I want the same thickness but shorter
07:53:16 <MrMobodies> very long
07:53:47 <MrMobodies> made in Germany
07:53:56 <Lemon> or maybe this one https://www.amazon.fr/Knipex-35-22-115-l%C3%A9lectronique/dp/B0001P0C1G/ref=pb_allspark_dp_session_sims_pao_desktop_15/258-0739255-0076462?pd_rd_w=wHuI9&pf_rd_p=9ab4ff8b-d19d-493a-9a73-4e400e0f6604&pf_rd_r=BDYXD1QS7HMNEX34EVX0&pd_rd_r=35b09f36-3f17-4ef6-aa13-14896776bac3&pd_rd_wg=EGRX3&pd_rd_i=B0001P0C1G&psc=1
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07:54:13 <Lemon> yeah its nice to grab things in shitty spots
07:54:38 <MrMobodies> I know quality when I see it
07:54:40 <MrMobodies> https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71aRg6cp+EL._AC_SL1500_.jpg
07:55:03 <MrMobodies> it reminds me of the nibs on fountain pens
07:56:15 <MrMobodies> https://www.amazon.co.uk/Knipex-35-22-115-l%C3%A9lectronique/dp/B0001P0C1G/
07:56:17 <EEVBot> [Title] - 503 - Service Unavailable Error
07:56:19 <MrMobodies> $30 in england
07:57:15 <MrMobodies> solidly built
07:57:23 <Lemon> yeah they are tanks
07:57:26 <Lemon> really
07:57:36 <Lemon> the fat needlenose I have feels tanky af
07:57:49 <Lemon> the other ones are solid, but not made to grip things with force
07:57:55 <Lemon> but still feels super smooth etc
07:58:00 <Lemon> this one looks interesting https://www.amazon.fr/Wiha-Pince-%C3%A9lectronique-135-03-Spitz-%C3%A9lectrons/dp/B001LIPEDI/ref=sr_1_11?__mk_fr_FR=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&dchild=1&keywords=pince+wiha&qid=1623189290&s=hi&sr=1-11
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07:58:05 <Lemon> wiha is also super nice
07:58:22 <MrMobodies> I have a few unbranded that belong in the bins, they don't pick up anything.
07:58:28 <MrMobodies> I am going get a couple of those
07:58:39 <rust_collector> as long as it is not the pliers on a leatherman. those are very meh
07:58:41 <MrMobodies> I mean that one in the link
07:59:11 <MrMobodies> the ones i have do have this black crap on them and they're just a waste of time and space
07:59:13 <Lemon> ha leathermans
07:59:16 <Lemon> I used to collect them
07:59:22 <Lemon> but they are crappy, yeah
07:59:30 <Lemon> I just like the thing
07:59:37 <Lemon> but not to actually use them lol
07:59:55 <Lemon> I think I have a micra, a flair, 2 sideclips and an og left
08:00:00 <rust_collector> the little saw is pretty impressive, but i tend to break the tip off the pliers
08:00:02 <Lemon> some got stolen sadly
08:00:15 <Lemon> yeah I never found a multitool that works well
08:00:19 <Lemon> I mean, pliers
08:00:25 <MrMobodies> I have a couple of tiny ones made in switzerland
08:00:26 <Lemon> in which you have trust they wont break
08:00:33 <Lemon> I love the micra tho
08:00:37 <MrMobodies> I broke one in aprinter trying ot remove paper
08:00:46 <Lemon> arf sucks
08:00:58 <Lemon> I had the swisstool whatever number from victorinox
08:01:02 <Lemon> it feels sturdier than leathermans
08:01:03 <rust_collector> now, THAT is impressive
08:01:23 <rust_collector> breaking a tool, pulling paper out of a printer
08:01:45 <Lemon> yes I admit it !
08:01:55 <MrMobodies> it has a HP 8500 complete nightmare
08:02:02 <MrMobodies> the paper handling had no guides
08:02:15 <MrMobodies> so put the paper unalligned and it would tear it and jam up
08:02:36 <MrMobodies> I had one guide but like leaver but it still didn't line it up properly
08:03:40 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/XfhGdGP.jpg
08:03:48 <MrMobodies> that's one of them that still works
08:04:11 <MrMobodies> good for removing things stuck in tiny gaps
08:07:20 <Lemon> ha ok I thought you meant fully fledged pliers
08:07:25 <Lemon> like the ones we linked above
08:07:46 <Lemon> those are tweezers, I ordered a few recently
08:07:57 <Lemon> nothing fancy tho, "sunshine" from aliexpress
08:08:20 <MrMobodies> okay
08:08:24 <MrMobodies> here's that paper tray
08:08:25 <MrMobodies> https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/k7cAAOSwe65f7iQv/s-l1600.jpg
08:08:56 <MrMobodies> it had a gap
08:09:36 <MrMobodies> and lever to allign, if it got out a bit, or someone forgot to allign the realm and it would jam
08:10:01 <MrMobodies> and had to use a torch and one of those sharp tweezers
08:10:14 <MrMobodies> it actually tore the paper and it got stuck around the rollers
08:11:21 <rust_collector> torch is always effective if you want to remove paper
08:11:22 <MrMobodies> almost allignment was regarded as optional but the later models had guides so that was rare.
08:11:42 <MrMobodies> oh yes I brought and and the tweezer
08:11:57 <MrMobodies> and this would happen every couple of times a week until one day I refused to do it
08:12:10 <MrMobodies> they would complain they couldn't print for a couple days when I was away
08:12:21 <MrMobodies> there were other problems with it hanging
08:12:39 <MrMobodies> so I recommended a black and white laserjet for four years no jamming
08:12:52 <rust_collector> next time, try explosives. that will also make it unjammed
08:12:54 <MrMobodies> it had a scanner with network scanning folder
08:13:10 <MrMobodies> I gave it away to a warehouse for the scanner as that had network scanning too
08:13:17 <Lemon> a little thing I quite like is this https://www.amazon.fr/Wera-%C3%A9toile-Magnetizer-Demagnetizer-5073403002/dp/B00CA36ZTU/ref=sr_1_1?__mk_fr_FR=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&dchild=1&keywords=wera+magnetizer&qid=1623190385&s=hi&sr=1-1
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08:13:24 <MrMobodies> but it was put away and in 2018 it leaked everywhere so it got dumped
08:13:38 <MrMobodies> I gor a couple of those
08:13:59 <MrMobodies> I think I got them for £5 each somewhere
08:16:59 <Lemon> they are so nice
08:17:33 <Lemon> and the last addition was this, but I bought it used/new in box for 35 euros https://www.amazon.fr/Knipex-12-40-200-auto-ajustable/dp/B000R895YM/ref=sr_1_12?__mk_fr_FR=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&dchild=1&keywords=pince+a+denuder+knipex&qid=1623190628&s=hi&sr=1-12
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08:17:40 <Lemon> and man, I absolutely love it
08:17:56 <MrMobodies> I brought one of these
08:18:06 <MrMobodies> to make my life easy with the screws so I don't have to hold them
08:18:07 <MrMobodies> https://www.amazon.co.uk/Makita-B-35097-Impact-Ultra-magnetic-Torsion/dp/B00ECMC1F4/
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08:18:29 <MrMobodies> that looks good
08:18:47 <Lemon> ho thats neat
08:18:50 <MrMobodies> I got this blue unbranded thing from a shop that was going into liqudation in 2010
08:18:54 <MrMobodies> I think I got it for £5
08:19:07 <MrMobodies> it cuts alright but it's a cheapo
08:21:22 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/kJMwNgV.jpg
08:21:28 <MrMobodies> Imgur seems to hang sometimes and stop
08:22:03 <MrMobodies> it has adjustments but not as detailed as that Knipex
08:23:10 <MrMobodies> https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81TKkOn%2BgJL._AC_SL1500_.jpg
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08:23:38 <MrMobodies> good thing about that I see I can measure the cable when adjust the slider so no chance of setting wrong and wasting cable
08:24:44 <Lemon> yeah and you adjust the depth too
08:24:55 <Lemon> which is really good, so its not tearing conductors
08:25:07 <Lemon> you just try the best setting at first and then you get used to it
08:25:14 <Lemon> the style you have works well too
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17:47:36 <steve30> hi
18:26:43 <steve30> apprently my headphones are being delivered tomorrow between 9:53am and 1:53pm
18:33:49 <Lemon> hoooo neat !
18:34:04 <Lemon> im getting my twin industries breadboard in afew hours. according to ups :>
18:34:23 <Lemon> and I just found, while digging into my fathers stuff, a big delta fan in a plastic sort of enclosure
18:34:32 <Lemon> and jesus christ, its powerful lol
18:34:41 <Lemon> and its not that noisy
18:34:49 <Lemon> well it is, but I remember delta fans being super high pitched
18:35:45 <Lemon> it says 12v 1,6a, and it got 4 wires
18:36:09 <Lemon> I tried powering it at 12v directly on the power wires but it was drawing half of what he could, I guess the other two are to control it
18:36:19 <Lemon> that could make a super nice fume extractor
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19:26:12 <Ysjoelfir> moooooooooornings
19:27:42 <K> huloooo
19:27:59 * Ysjoelfir hands K a corncob
19:28:18 <Lemon> yoyoyo
19:28:20 <K> is it raw?
19:28:21 <Lemon> waddup homie
19:28:25 <Ysjoelfir> yes.
19:28:28 <Ysjoelfir> not much Lemon
19:29:08 <Lemon> ho ! I was too slow to click on the link with your lab pictures
19:29:14 <Lemon> can you please send it again ? :>
19:33:40 <Ysjoelfir> when was that? a few days IIRC?
19:34:59 <Lemon> yes I think
19:35:18 <Ysjoelfir> let me look.
19:36:22 <Lemon> it was on google drive I think
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19:37:26 <EEVBot> [Title] - 302 Moved
19:38:24 <Halcyon> Hey all
19:39:59 <Lemon> thanks :> lets take a look
19:40:24 <Ysjoelfir> hey Hal@
19:40:27 <Lemon> ho thats a very nice carotte !
19:40:33 <Ysjoelfir> isn't it?
19:40:34 <Ysjoelfir> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/17Sji1hCRLNSw6eYQcjuXTFc3cjIa7De8?usp=sharing
19:40:35 <EEVBot> [Title] - 20210503 - Google Drive
19:40:51 <Ysjoelfir> it has a knob!
19:43:36 <Lemon> like pictured in my head when I came !
19:43:37 <Lemon> I love it
19:44:52 <Lemon> hmmm im looking for a set of pliers, that would be used to grab jumpers/components and place them on my breadboard
19:44:55 <Lemon> and I found those https://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B001LIPEDI/ref=ewc_pr_img_5?smid=AYPY2W9D6Q7P4&psc=1
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19:46:17 <Lemon> do you think they'd work well ?
19:46:26 <Lemon> they are quite thin and looks maniable
19:46:42 <Lemon> I have two needlenose pliers, one supper thin/long, which works well but a bit hard to keep steady
19:46:52 <Lemon> and another thats much thicker, with a cutter at the base
19:47:07 <Ysjoelfir> wiha works nice usually
19:50:12 <K> wiha is nice
19:50:17 <K> if a little expensive
19:51:49 <Lemon> hmmm well it looks ok to me if its as good as the other tools I have from them
19:51:57 <Lemon> I think I'll buy this one
19:52:00 <K> i have some of these - https://www.amazon.de/s?k=Piergiacomi&__mk_de_DE=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&ref=nb_sb_noss
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19:52:04 <Lemon> its quite on the cheap side
19:52:04 <K> is quite good
19:52:20 <Ysjoelfir> brb, going to fetch a medication recipe for mrs. spouse real quick before the doc closes at 12:30....
19:52:22 <K> it is not like i use them 24/7
19:52:25 <Lemon> ha never saw this brand
19:52:32 <Lemon> I hope she's ok ?
19:52:33 <K> cyas Ysjoelfir
19:53:02 <Lemon> K the one I liked are prehension pliers tho, really thin
19:53:19 <K> prehension?
19:53:43 <Lemon> hmmm maybe its not an english word lol
19:53:47 <Lemon> made to hold something
19:54:28 <K> aren't all pliers made for that in some capacity?
19:56:10 <Lemon> hmmm yes true I tend to call pliers anything that do the action of opening/closing like that
19:56:13 <Lemon> but you are right
19:56:20 <Lemon> pliers, cutters are different
19:56:32 <Lemon> even if handles are the same form/way of openning
19:58:22 <Lemon> along it I think I will take this, I always wanted one https://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B000TGNZ8O/ref=ewc_pr_img_1?smid=A2IVRIHB2LBH18&psc=1
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20:33:20 <Ysjoelfir> re
20:33:51 <Ysjoelfir> K, I think le mon meant pretensioned pliers. like they hold stuff without you having to squeeze them
20:35:46 <K> ah.
20:44:36 <Ampera> GOOOOOOOOOOD MORNING VIETNAM
20:58:34 <rust_collector> hello africa
20:58:44 <Ampera> good morning rusticles
20:58:46 <Ampera> how are you
20:58:47 <T3sl4> i bless the rains down on Ampera
20:59:04 * Halcyon tackle-loves Ampera
20:59:12 <Ampera> oh god
20:59:18 <T3sl4> o shit wuddup its dat Halcyon
20:59:22 * Ampera hug-chokes Halcyon
20:59:25 * Ampera choke-hugs T3sl4
20:59:36 <Halcyon> Herro T3sl4
20:59:37 <T3sl4> :3
20:59:43 * T3sl4 licks Halcyon
20:59:48 <Halcyon> Your package should be landing in the USA promptly
20:59:53 <T3sl4> yay!
21:00:01 <Ampera> how are the both of you doing
21:00:11 <Halcyon> I am tired. It has been a long fucking week
21:00:17 <Halcyon> I am taking the next 5 days off, because
21:00:18 <Ampera> a fucking week?
21:00:21 <Ampera> sounds more interesting than mine
21:00:41 <Ampera> I wish I could take the next five days off
21:00:46 <Halcyon> Well, thanks to your FBI, we've managed to fuck a lot of crooks over the last few weeks
21:00:49 <Ampera> I mean I can, but then I can't take those five days off later in the year :P
21:01:01 <Halcyon> It's too much fucking, even for me :P
21:01:11 <T3sl4> or you take all those ten days off, and get infinity more days free \o/
21:01:19 <Halcyon> I want infinity days
21:01:26 <Halcyon> Paid of course
21:01:32 * T3sl4 drops off Halcyon at a car dealership
21:01:34 <Ampera> T3sl4, I mean I can take as many days off as I want, I just won't get paid during them.
21:01:43 <Halcyon> Oh I would never buy a Nissan :P
21:01:51 <Ampera> I'm planning on it, Halcyon
21:01:57 <Halcyon> Buying a Nissan?
21:01:58 <Ampera> I'm considering buying a frontier
21:02:01 <Ampera> yes
21:02:04 <Halcyon> Sorry... Niii-ssaaaaan
21:02:14 <Ampera> liam nissan
21:02:20 <Halcyon> Too old
21:02:32 <Ampera> I wonder if there's a dealership by that name in the US
21:02:36 <Ampera> that'd be cool
21:02:42 <Halcyon> That actually would be
21:02:53 <Ampera> I've been considering the Toyota Glaucoma vs the Nissan Frontier, and nissan has the better prices and bigger engine
21:03:07 <Ampera> but toyota glaucoma is funnier to say
21:03:07 <Halcyon> Better than https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdp-_K_AmAM
21:03:08 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: Family Guy Songs - Wilkins Hyundai and Subaru
21:03:21 <Halcyon> "Hun-day"
21:03:22 <Halcyon> Hehe
21:04:02 <T3sl4> guacamole
21:04:02 <Ampera> I always say it hyun dai
21:04:11 <T3sl4> highanddry
21:04:27 <Ampera> T3sl4, if you can make a pun off the name frontier I'll love you
21:04:42 <rust_collector> Ampera do you have a good nissan dealer in your area?
21:04:51 <Ampera> rust_collector, we have nissan dealers
21:04:56 <Ampera> no clue if they're any good
21:05:00 <rust_collector> right
21:05:12 <T3sl4> have you tried craigslist? you might be able to get a frontier fromqueer
21:05:22 <Ampera> so long as there isn't crack in the glovebox I'm fine
21:05:23 <Halcyon> :P
21:05:36 <rust_collector> nissans can be a bit quirky to work on, if you have some independent shop work on it.
21:05:56 <Halcyon> Overall they aren't bad, they are just boring as fuck
21:06:05 <Halcyon> Same as Subaru, nothing impressive, but mechanically fine
21:06:06 <Ampera> all vehicles are boring as fuck
21:06:13 <Ampera> they don't make interesting cars anymore
21:06:20 <Halcyon> Why do you think I buy a Volvo
21:06:24 <Ampera> because you're gay
21:06:25 <Halcyon> I hate most other cars
21:06:33 <Halcyon> Well, there is THAT
21:06:51 <steve30> hi
21:06:52 <Ampera> and are attracted to the symbol of mars
21:06:52 <rust_collector> the last cool thing was probably the chrysler turbine cars
21:07:04 <Halcyon> Pity Chrysler made shit cars
21:07:20 <T3sl4> Ampera would look good in a subaru tbh
21:07:30 <Halcyon> Like a big lesbian?
21:07:32 <steve30> not enough adverts have cool songs any more
21:07:39 <rust_collector> they still do. but they used to do some great engineering, back in the...before mid 60s
21:07:40 <Halcyon> In an Outback or Forester ?
21:07:53 <T3sl4> Halcyon: well, he doesn't like penis
21:07:59 <Halcyon> Oh, he does
21:08:02 <Ampera> As strange as it sounds, my testicles aren't my brain, so I think I'm kinda incompatible with subaru
21:08:06 <Halcyon> He just doesn't like HIS penis
21:08:10 <T3sl4> hehe
21:08:11 <Ampera> I like penis, just not permanently attached to me
21:08:21 <Ampera> as they say, ain't no cock like whore cock.
21:08:26 <K> detachable penis?
21:08:31 <Halcyon> Ampera would make the perfect pig bottom
21:08:32 <Ampera> K, swiss army dick
21:08:40 <Ampera> Halcyon, I don't even want to know
21:08:46 <Halcyon> https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pig%20bottom
21:08:47 <K> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byDiILrNbM4
21:08:47 <EEVBot> [Title] - Urban Dictionary: pig bottom
21:08:48 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: King Missile - Detachable Penis
21:08:51 <Halcyon> Not as bad as you think
21:09:01 <K> do not ask why am i aware of that song
21:09:06 <Ampera> puts the dick into urban dictionary
21:09:21 <Ampera> K, why are you aware of that song
21:09:24 <Halcyon> Back shortly...
21:09:30 <T3sl4> as long as you don't ask me why i'm aware of the Butthole Surfers
21:09:34 * Ampera lights Halcyon on fire
21:09:35 <Ampera> black shortly
21:09:41 <K> butthole suffereres
21:09:53 <Ampera> T3sl4, well that's pretty self explanatory
21:10:03 * T3sl4 surfs Ampera's pig ass
21:10:05 <Ampera> you're you, I'm me, and goats still scream when you touch them
21:10:51 * T3sl4 gives Ampera the Bad Touch
21:11:13 <Ampera> The only annoying thing about the Frontier is the new 2022 one's coming out soon, and I'm thinking of buying a truck now
21:12:21 <rust_collector> hmm, just to ask about that, did you look at the isuzu?
21:12:46 <Ampera> No I did not
21:16:33 <K> yay 20krpm spindle motor arrived
21:16:55 * T3sl4 spins K round, baby
21:17:14 <K> im not a spinster!
21:22:55 <Ysjoelfir> Do you spin him like a record, baby?
21:23:46 <T3sl4> aye
21:24:26 <Ysjoelfir> Do you want his looooo-ooooo-oooohooohooooooooove?
21:26:32 <T3sl4> eh, i could take it or leave it
21:26:35 <T3sl4> yours on the other hand
21:26:49 <Ysjoelfir> rawr
21:28:39 <K> cease the debauchery.
21:28:50 * Ysjoelfir debauches K
21:31:18 <K> https://gfycat.com/evergreensnivelingangwantibo-dog
21:31:19 <EEVBot> [Title] - Look Who's Talking Now - Angry Girl 2 GIF by MikeyMo | Gfycat
21:32:07 <Ysjoelfir> bwahahahaha
21:32:25 * Ampera throws fried bloodsausage at Ysjoelfir
21:33:18 * rust_collector gets tendonitis thinking about that
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21:33:58 * Ampera licks rust_collector's tendons
21:34:16 <rust_collector> thanks, that helps a bit
21:34:26 * T3sl4 gives rust_collector's tendons to Ampera, now rust_collector has zerodons
21:34:39 <rust_collector> thanks, that also helps
21:34:54 * Ampera splits the tendons, give T3sl4 fivedons and returns a fivedon to rusty
21:35:10 * T3sl4 licks them
21:36:03 <Ampera> I am just a simple businessman providing swift kicks in the groin to select clientele
21:36:15 * Ampera considers selecting Halcyon
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21:39:51 <Lemon> just got my twin industries breadboards
21:40:01 <Lemon> and man, that was worth it
21:40:15 * Ampera juices the Lemon
21:40:24 <Ampera> how are you doing my citrical friend?
21:40:25 <rust_collector> you should buy many more of them, and build a small house out of them
21:41:03 * T3sl4 twists the juice with a bit of whisky and simple syrup
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21:44:31 <Lemon> im doing good and you ampy ?
21:44:37 <Halcyon> Hm?
21:44:47 <Lemon> and yes rusty it will cost a lot tho
21:44:49 <Ampera> awake for once
21:44:50 <Ampera> maybe
21:44:55 * Ampera hugs Halcyon again, for good measure
21:44:56 <Lemon> probably more than a regular house :>
21:45:08 <Lemon> but yes nothing in comon with the cheapos
21:45:18 <Lemon> easy to insert components, but they hold well
21:45:38 <Lemon> now I need to find a metal plate to stick them on
21:45:47 <Lemon> put two banana or whatever to connect my suply and bam
21:46:02 <rust_collector> does it have to be metal?
21:46:03 <Halcyon> We should get snow tonight/tomorrow Ampera
21:46:16 <Ampera> when you say some snow, is it actually any?
21:46:18 <Ampera> or just a sprinkling
21:46:20 <rust_collector> cutting boards are nice to make things out of
21:46:25 <Halcyon> It'
21:46:29 <Ampera> ah I see
21:46:31 <Halcyon> s 0 degrees at the moment outside
21:46:31 <Ampera> thanks for telling me
21:46:34 <Ampera> :P
21:46:38 <Halcyon> "Feels like -5.8"
21:46:46 <Lemon> no not necessarly metal, but its thin and solid, which is nice
21:46:50 <Ampera> that's a lot less impressive than it sounds
21:46:55 <Lemon> cutting boards why not but its thick
21:47:06 <Ampera> 32F is not that cold
21:47:12 <Ampera> 0F, on the other hand
21:47:16 <Ampera> is when it starts to get fun
21:47:25 <rust_collector> Lemon I have some that are 3mm or so.
21:48:16 <Halcyon> We'll probably get a few cm
21:48:27 <Lemon> yeah if they are stiff that'd be perfect, I need to find some
21:48:30 <Ampera> so nothing
21:48:40 <Halcyon> Yes but this is 'straya
21:48:45 <Ampera> that sucks
21:48:51 <Ampera> sorry you have to live there
21:48:53 <Halcyon> You generally only get a decent snow out west or in the snowfields
21:48:54 <Ampera> it's not your fault
21:49:02 <steve30> Halcyon, its hot and sunny here
21:49:13 <Halcyon> I'll swap you Steve
21:49:15 <Halcyon> I miss summer
21:49:23 <Ampera> you barely have winter, shut up
21:49:25 <rust_collector> you can have mine
21:49:29 <Ampera> ^
21:49:58 <rust_collector> I have to sit inside all day, to avoid melting
21:49:59 <Halcyon> Again, this is Australia. Our winters aren't the hell like they are there
21:50:12 <Ampera> winters aren't hell
21:50:29 <Ampera> mostly mildly annoying when it snows a lot, and bit of a problem when you get road ice
21:54:30 <rust_collector> the best part about the winter here, is everyone making fun of people in other places, being shut down completely, because they had 1" of snow. then we go and are just as useless when we get 1" a week later
21:57:08 <Halcyon> The thing is, almost no one has now tyres or chains here
21:57:17 <Halcyon> Except if you live in the snowy mountains
21:57:26 <Halcyon> *snow
21:58:26 <Halcyon> Then you get morons in their Subaru's thinking their AWD will save them, then wonder why they go slippy slidey
21:59:35 * steve30 fires a snowball at Halcyon
21:59:50 <Halcyon> Brrr
21:59:53 <Halcyon> Coldness
22:00:15 <T3sl4> i could go for some snow on my balls right about now
22:00:16 <Halcyon> Anyway I'm heading to bed.
22:00:28 * Halcyon offers T3sl4 some cubes instead
22:00:52 <T3sl4> gn/
22:01:01 <Halcyon> Night
22:01:07 <Ampera> I never seen snow chains in my life
22:01:13 <Ampera> snow tires sure, but only some people use that
22:01:34 <Ampera> we have roads, and at least some of our municipalities plow the streets
22:02:40 <rust_collector> I would still recommend snow tires, they make a big difference. it is not the deep snow that is a problem.
22:03:46 <T3sl4> if snow tires/chains were a common thing in the US there'd just be everyone driving them on the highway like it's a normal thing
22:04:51 <rust_collector> well, driving is what they are usually used for
22:05:15 <Ampera> I can't imagine snow chains would be great for the road
22:05:56 <rust_collector> they are not. but when you get to the point where you need chains, you are probably driving on snow or ice, so
22:06:37 <rust_collector> but regular winter tires are a good idea, imo.
22:07:07 <Ampera> eh, it's an expense
22:07:13 <rust_collector> sure it is
22:07:19 <Ampera> so is sliding off the road and into someone's shop
22:07:26 <Ampera> but eh
22:07:43 <rust_collector> depends on what falls into your truck when you are going thru the shop
22:15:45 <rust_collector> prrrfffft. I am going to the dump again. have fun
22:16:35 <Ampera> enjoy your dump
22:17:03 <K> whats in the dump?
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22:19:01 <Ampera> a dump
22:19:08 <Ampera> next questino
22:20:28 <K> why is the dump?
22:21:56 <Ampera> why is life?
22:21:59 <Ampera> if you look deep
22:22:05 <Ampera> you will find the same answer for both
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22:37:05 <Lemon> I bought dis https://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B001LIPEDI/ref=ox_sc_act_title_5?smid=AYPY2W9D6Q7P4&psc=1#customerReviews
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22:37:41 <Ampera> STOP BEING FRENCH >:'(
22:37:48 <Ampera> sorry, carry on
22:38:17 <Lemon> well nothing, I just bought dis :>
22:38:25 <Ampera> <3
22:38:26 <Lemon> im a sucker for tools it seems
22:38:29 <Ampera> you're my favorite Lemon, Lemon
22:38:37 <Lemon> :D
22:38:48 <Lemon> ive been put off a project so many times due to lack of good tools
22:39:17 <Ampera> tools are a trap
22:39:23 <Ampera> buy them when you need them
22:39:42 <Ampera> otherwise all you'll end up with is a mess that your family has to clear out once you're dead :P
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22:48:42 <Ampera> weed horse!
22:48:49 <Lemon> yeah thats true, thats what im doing :>
22:49:05 <Lemon> first I bought the superknips because well, I needed a good side cutter for component legs
22:49:16 <Lemon> then a needlenose/cutter, for thicker wires and to bend them
22:49:32 <Lemon> then a long, thin needlenose plier, to grab things in weird places
22:49:49 <Lemon> and now I needed a small, thin one to hold/insert/bend components into the breadboards
22:56:43 <Lemon> theres some that I need/want but well, they are expensive
22:56:57 <Lemon> like a small front cutter, knipex one cost like 40+ euros
23:09:07 <Ampera> I like knipex, I bought some for my dad
23:09:26 <Ampera> big high leverage multipliers and some needle nose, both 1000V insulated
23:12:46 <K> ive been eyeing lindstrom cutters/pliers for a while now
23:14:38 <Lemon> haaa lindstrom
23:14:47 <Lemon> Id love a pair, but shit, the price
23:15:00 <Lemon> maybe I'd go for mini cutters
23:15:07 <Lemon> but they are like, 45-50 euros bare minimum
23:18:37 <K> those should last a lifetime
23:18:51 <K> well, unless you are cutting springsteel or somth
23:21:13 <Lemon> yeah ofc
23:21:21 <Lemon> but well, im sure knipex/wiha ones will also last a lifetime
23:21:27 <Lemon> they are usually two times cheaper
23:24:16 <Lemon> im all for pricy, quality tools but it needs to be justified
23:24:37 <Lemon> and I feel with lindstrom, theres a bit of price that goes towards the fame only, idk how to explain it
23:24:54 <Lemon> they look super nice, last a lifetime etc but they still look a bit overpriced
23:25:22 <Lemon> for example the 25 euros superknips I have are just perfect, super smooth, not a single play, I know that model is super old and last a lifetime
23:25:30 <Lemon> so why would it cost 2 times that
23:29:18 <Lemon> maybe they are even better than knipex, thats possible
23:29:23 <Lemon> they are highly regarded it seems
23:29:47 <Lemon> I think my father had a pair he abused like crap (like most of his tools, for some reasons) and I saw it broke when he tried to cut a hige wire
23:30:00 <Lemon> I know he used it for 2-3 decades
23:32:07 <K> but still.
23:32:34 <Lemon> im not sure it was a lindstrom, but it looked like one
23:33:00 <Lemon> I remember when it broke, I was like "dont do this dont do this"
23:33:05 <Lemon> and clac, it snapped
23:33:27 <Lemon> it was some small cutter you'd use for component legs, or small copper wire
23:33:42 <Lemon> he'd cut things like 1mm steel wire with it, or more
23:35:52 <electrohead> o/
23:35:57 <Lemon> yoyo
23:36:04 <electrohead> hey, good morning
23:37:38 <Lemon> https://www.techspray.com/platoshear-cutter-5 I didnt know real plato's costed that much
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23:41:32 <Lemon> 129 bucks for the ESD version
23:41:34 <Lemon> wtf seriously
23:48:36 <Ysjoelfir> 12.90
23:48:40 <Ysjoelfir> not 129
23:52:03 <Ysjoelfir> also, mornings mr. head
23:52:52 <electrohead> hey mate
23:52:54 * electrohead yawns
23:54:52 <Ysjoelfir> so, you did just get up?
23:55:02 <Ysjoelfir> EEVBot time electrohead
23:55:03 <EEVBot> It is currently 2021/06/09 09:55:03 where electrohead resides.
23:55:09 <Ysjoelfir> hmm, sounds reasonable
23:55:33 <electrohead> yeah, just got up recently :P
23:55:38 <electrohead> https://i.redd.it/0y5mayd3f7471.jpg
23:56:05 <Ysjoelfir> isn't that the way things work in politics?
23:56:40 <electrohead> I think so, lol
23:57:19 * Ampera hugs electrohead
23:57:25 <Ampera> how are you doing m9?
23:59:00 * electrohead counter hugs Ampera
23:59:03 <electrohead> I'm alright, you?
23:59:07 <Ampera> awake
23:59:11 <Ampera> been looking at trucks