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00:00:56 <Ampera> I'm tempted to make earl grey, put milk in it, and lemon, just to piss you both off real bad
00:05:00 <damian> do it
00:05:02 <damian> it won't piss me off
00:05:07 <damian> if you do it, you HAVE to drink it though
00:05:16 <Ampera> I'll get to it
00:05:42 <damian> you know what happens when you add citrus to milk, right? :P
00:06:09 <Ampera> I'm well aware
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00:33:21 <Ampera> The top tier dick move in email spam is having an unsubscribe link that brings you to a website which says "That service is not available right now"
00:41:24 <DHess_US> Huh? Is there any other kind?
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00:42:41 <coppice> That's better than the web sites with a warning that if you unsubscribe they'll kneecap your mum
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01:41:29 <hsn> https://www.instagram.com/p/CPvuZttBRbT/
01:41:47 <hsn> Lol at the sumny
01:42:38 <Ampera> instagram = instaban
01:43:00 <rust_collector> lalalala
01:43:56 <Ampera> sing to me rusty
01:45:12 <rust_collector> WOAAAARRRRMAWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaa BMRRRRRRRMMMRRRRBBBBBggggggbbb
01:45:30 <Ampera> that's hot
01:46:21 <rust_collector> it is just our dialect. some like french, some like other things
02:03:50 <rust_collector> the story of a little baby goat, crossing a bridge, and finding a nice bush he can eat
02:09:37 <coppice> who wants a baby goat eating their bush?
02:10:17 <rust_collector> the guy who usually have to trim the bush anyway
02:14:30 <coppice> oh, yeah. everyone likes a nice trimmed bush
02:23:37 <Kuschelpony> finally got REW to work
02:24:02 <Kuschelpony> natively under linux did work well after i got the right Javascript runtime and puzzled Pulseaudio settings
02:25:19 <rust_collector> rew?
02:31:21 <Kuschelpony> RoomEQWizard
02:31:26 <Kuschelpony> an audio measurement program
02:31:36 <rust_collector> oh
02:32:19 <Kuschelpony> can also measure Thielle Small parameters
02:33:35 <Kuschelpony> just one more little step to recycle some junk speakers into useful boxes
02:57:46 <DHess_US> What hardware are you using?
02:58:12 <DHess_US> I looked into using REW but decided that the hardware was questionable.
03:00:59 <DHess_US> This is what I considered but apparently it has issues, https://www.amazon.com/Behringer-UMC202HD-BEHRINGER-U-PHORIA-2-Channel/dp/B00QHURUBE/
03:09:31 <DHess_US> https://www.diyaudio.com/forums/multi-way/319740-impedance-measurement-2.html
03:13:01 <Kuschelpony> hmm, im just using the internal soundcard of the Desktop PC
03:13:19 <Kuschelpony> for impedance sweeps this is far good enough
03:13:37 <Kuschelpony> what i have not yet found out is how to make an distortion vs amplitude sweep
03:14:39 <DHess_US> The problem is with outputs which have too much series resistance and coupling capacitors which are too small, even on headphone outputs.
03:15:02 <DHess_US> Which makes low and high frequency measurements less accurate, or impossible.
03:15:18 <Kuschelpony> oh, no issue
03:15:36 <Kuschelpony> i do have that LM1875 amplifier that i cobbled together last year
03:15:58 <DHess_US> Your sound card must be better for this application than many, like the Behringer I linked.
03:16:03 <Kuschelpony> so i can measure from around 12hz lower limit to about 19kHz upper limit (here the soundcard makes weird things)
03:16:18 <DHess_US> Yea, the ultimate solution is to buffer the audio output with a small power amplifier.
03:16:24 <Kuschelpony> hmm why? its a pretty standard onboard soundcard
03:16:30 <Kuschelpony> sure!
03:17:04 <Kuschelpony> i had recently mentioned i want to build a middlesized one from the TDA7294 somewhere next, to be able to measure upto something 10 or 20 watts for distortion checks
03:17:15 <DHess_US> They were probably "too cheap" to bother adding the output coupling capacitor and series resistor that would normally be included to protect the output.
03:18:14 <Kuschelpony> hmm
03:18:19 <DHess_US> A direct coupled headphone amplifier would be perfect at lower powers.
03:18:29 <Kuschelpony> im sure that doesnt matter when going into 47k amplifier input resistor
03:18:42 <DHess_US> It isn't the input they had trouble with.
03:18:57 <Kuschelpony> or just an LM1875 or something connected as mid power opamp
03:19:05 <DHess_US> It was when using the headphone output of the Behringer and many other audio outputs.
03:19:12 <Kuschelpony> hmm, please explain, i might misunderastand
03:19:15 <DHess_US> Sure, if you direct couple the output.
03:19:52 <DHess_US> Often headphone outputs include a series resistor and coupling capacitor to protect the output from shorts. Those interfere with low and high frequency measurements.
03:20:17 <DHess_US> They aren't intended for driving low impedance loads like speakers.
03:20:18 <Kuschelpony> yep
03:20:25 <Kuschelpony> generally absolutely right
03:20:33 <Kuschelpony> thats why i added the small PA
03:21:16 <Kuschelpony> so the headphone oputput is loaded by 47kOhms and goes down to about 12Hz
03:21:51 <Kuschelpony> also it goes flat up to 22kHz but the readback from the line in does weird things past 19kHz
03:23:56 <Kuschelpony> samplerate is 48kHz if you ask
03:24:23 <DHess_US> The antialias filtering could be doing weird things.
03:25:26 <Kuschelpony> i think so
03:25:39 <Kuschelpony> its just no symmetrical on both channels
03:26:06 <Kuschelpony> if its symmetrical and linear it should fall out of theself calibration, but it doersnt
03:33:38 <DHess_US> So if I had purchased the Behringer for use with REW, I would have ended up rebuilding it to lower its output impedance.
03:33:56 <Kuschelpony> understood
03:34:32 <Kuschelpony> my future plan would be a suitcase with a cheap laptop, mini PA and extensve connector panel, as a standalone device
03:34:59 <DHess_US> If you are going to that much effort, wouldn't DAT2 make more sense?
03:35:25 <DHess_US> well, this, https://www.parts-express.com/Dayton-Audio-DATS-V3-Computer-Based-Audio-Component-Test-System-390-807
03:36:04 <Kuschelpony> hmm, no idea
03:36:35 <DHess_US> The DATS software is like REW but intended more for speaker measurement.
03:36:44 <Kuschelpony> perhaps yes
03:37:02 <Kuschelpony> i just like DIY and can save a lot of money by ignoring the "polishing"
03:37:14 <DHess_US> Buying DATS was my backup plan if I didn't get good results tuning my subwoofer with just a signal generator and voltmeter.
03:37:59 <DHess_US> I would have wanted to buy an external USB sound device anyway for use with REW so buying DATS instead would have been about the same price.
03:39:26 <Kuschelpony> hmmm
03:39:54 <Kuschelpony> when i buy a good USB interface, there is one from Thomann for around 25€
03:39:57 <DHess_US> Even with its flaws, the Behringer is probably what I would have bought, because at least I could modify it.
03:40:08 <DHess_US> If I went with REW instead of DATS.
03:42:01 <DHess_US> DATS is more suited to what I am interested in, but I thought REW would be less expensive, and it really wasn't if I had to buy and modify a USB sound interface.
03:42:21 <DHess_US> But I didn't have to do either, at least not yet.
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03:45:27 <Kuschelpony> so far my investment was zero euros... except for the LM1875 that i had already bought two years earlier
03:45:58 <DHess_US> I managed to tune my subwoofer with zero investment. I used my existing FG502 function generator and DM502 multimeter.
03:46:58 <DHess_US> https://w140.com/tekwiki/wiki/FG502 https://w140.com/tekwiki/wiki/DM502
03:47:09 <Kuschelpony> yep, i remember you shared this
03:47:32 <Kuschelpony> i have not yet build the next one but currently browse through the piles of collected secondhand speakers
03:48:03 <Kuschelpony> looks like i can go reasonably down to 60Hz wit a 13cm miniwoofer in a bandpass
03:48:51 <Kuschelpony> just at very tame levels of course
03:49:24 <DHess_US> I was thinking I might build this kit to go with my subwoofer, but move the port to the front, https://www.parts-express.com/Overnight-Sensations-MT-Speaker-Pair-Kit-300-706
03:50:05 <DHess_US> Probably a waste of time though. My existing bookshelf speakers aren't horrible.
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03:51:12 <Kuschelpony> i do it also to wast time instead of just sitting in my dark hole (how i feel alone at home after years of isolation)
03:51:30 <DHess_US> I have lots of other things to waste time on.
03:51:37 <Kuschelpony> and if i can recycle my secondhand speakers into something useful, even better
03:51:58 <Kuschelpony> i dont want to repeat too much but my social life has major issues
03:52:03 <DHess_US> I'm rebuilding a DM501A multimeter, and a pair of TM503 mainframes, and then I have other projects I can do.
03:52:07 <Kuschelpony> or i wouldnt be every day in the chat here
03:52:33 <DHess_US> I have a pair of nice but old bookshelf speakers that I had forgotten about.
03:53:14 <DHess_US> I should have just started off using them instead of buying new ones but I forgot that I had them.
03:53:24 <Kuschelpony> hihi
03:54:35 <Kuschelpony> exactly as i think https://www.diyaudio.com/forums/multi-way/319740-impedance-measurement-post5529941.html
03:57:59 <DHess_US> Just looked and they are no-name front ported 2-way speakers.
03:58:09 <DHess_US> So maybe not very good but would have worked fine for zero cost.
03:59:21 <DHess_US> Found my PA42 operational amplifier. 350 volts 120 milliamps
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04:00:20 <DHess_US> full power bandwidth of 26 kHz so could probably drive an electrostatic speaker directly.
04:00:29 <Kuschelpony> oh nice beast
04:00:38 <Kuschelpony> hihi
04:01:01 <Kuschelpony> my imagination would be more like a pair of EL509 :)
04:02:22 <Kuschelpony> anyway i gave up the idea of midrangfe and tweeter with a classic crossover around 2 to 4kHz
04:02:40 <Kuschelpony> never heard something so clear as the wideband speakers i have since winter
04:03:05 <Kuschelpony> adding a supertweeter above 10kHz is again no problem as the ear is no more that sensitive to phase differences
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04:47:33 <Kuschelpony> soo, the day is over and i was too low on motivastion to wind the pair of transformers i wanted to try
04:48:15 <Kuschelpony> will go offline soon,. have a ghood night
04:52:06 <hsn> https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1fV411x72a
04:54:34 <rust_collector> no
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05:07:26 <electrohead> odd question - does anyone have a 12 ounce can of bud light sitting around?
05:08:06 <electrohead> trying to find the UPC of a single can, and of course all pictures I'm coming across show the front of the can, and not the back lol
05:09:55 <Lemon> we dont have those here, sorry :>
05:10:39 <Lemon> if anyone knows : im learning and playing with logic gates, and on the long term, I want to build a cool thing only with transistor, no logic IC, so that would require a lot of 2n2222 or whatever, does it matter if those are chinese cheapos ?
05:10:49 <Lemon> right now im using chinese ones but only for one gate at a time
05:10:55 <Lemon> can it be a problem once theres tons of them ?
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05:36:21 <MRiddickW> Should I be leery of buying multimeter fuses from Amazon 3rd party? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07QPH6JL8
05:36:27 <MRiddickW> (fulfilled by Amazon though)
05:40:00 <MRiddickW> Alternate question: Where do I buy fuses for my Fluke 87 without getting shafted?
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06:27:09 <electrohead> so a tagged carrier pigeon crash landed at the beer store
06:27:27 <electrohead> because it's sunday, fucking no one is answering their phones, at the local-ish clubs around my area
06:27:30 <electrohead> guh
06:35:16 <steve30> carrier pigeon? Couldn't they use email instead?
06:35:53 <T3sl4> at least it wasn't sweating
06:36:11 <T3sl4> but i bet it hit like a trane
06:38:43 <electrohead> lol
06:39:10 <electrohead> if banded, they are owned by someone, and technically they are protected
06:39:22 <electrohead> closing the store in a bit, I shall be around then
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07:21:03 <MrMobodies> Hello
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10:23:40 <T3sl4> Ampera: https://i.imgur.com/Iu4KMHx.jpg
10:33:37 <electrohead> T3sl4: lol
10:33:39 <electrohead> o/
10:33:46 <T3sl4> *hugs*
10:33:53 * electrohead face hugs T3sl4
10:34:20 <T3sl4> :)
10:34:23 <electrohead> sooo because of Halcyon, I'm going to set up a rig to either record, or live stream, video
10:34:35 <electrohead> within the month or so, that'll be done
10:34:50 * electrohead offers a Rusty Rail Fog Monster
10:35:11 <electrohead> https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/41951/321908/
10:35:13 <electrohead> taht guy.
10:36:00 <electrohead> that*
10:48:14 <Ampera> T3sl4, there are far more civilized means of doing that.
10:48:18 <Ampera> Firearms, for instance.
10:48:37 <T3sl4> glock mouthwash
10:49:03 <Ampera> After dinner lead
10:49:45 <electrohead> americans have a weird gun fetish, that I don't understand
10:49:49 * electrohead shrugs
10:49:55 <T3sl4> ye
10:50:26 <Ampera> You win every argument.
10:50:50 <electrohead> T3sl4 always does, yes
10:51:00 <T3sl4> even the ones i don't
10:51:06 <electrohead> you still win
10:51:09 <electrohead> \o/
10:51:11 <electrohead> lol
10:51:15 <electrohead> / \
10:51:20 <electrohead> dude with a lol body
10:52:09 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/JU9E42i.gif
10:53:28 <electrohead> heh, I remember in win98 (second edition?), you could type "soi soi" in the text to speech engine, and it would say it weird
10:54:36 <Ampera> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kN4R_KpLD5A&list=PL_fxrsmw50qndLQ_EZnaX26RfXf7SanBZ
10:57:13 <electrohead> soi soi soi
10:57:32 <Ampera> soi boi
10:57:51 * T3sl4 phytoestrogens Ampera
10:58:19 <Ampera> no thanks, I have the real stuff
10:59:11 * electrohead drowns Ampera in xenoestrogen
10:59:14 * T3sl4 fondles Ampera's boobs
10:59:25 <Ampera> what boobs
10:59:30 <Ampera> electrohead probably has bigger boobs than me
10:59:52 <electrohead> o.O
10:59:55 <electrohead> lol
10:59:59 <electrohead> no boobs, here
11:00:01 <electrohead> just muscle
11:00:03 <electrohead> ;P
11:00:20 <Ampera> that's some strangely shaped muscle...
11:00:32 * T3sl4 fondles electrohead
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11:02:01 <electrohead> I still need to write a function to autojoin, but have been busy with other things
11:02:04 <electrohead> >.<
11:02:32 <electrohead> being IT/electronics support for friends and family is fun, but takes up some time
11:02:42 <electrohead> especially when it involves the beer store
11:03:02 <electrohead> which, I don't go to every single day, so that part of it is taking some time
11:03:03 <electrohead> guh
11:03:22 * electrohead smacks a twisted tea off of T3sl4's face
11:03:36 <T3sl4> 3sl4's face?
11:03:46 <electrohead> lol
11:03:50 <electrohead> do you know that reference?
11:04:06 <T3sl4> yeah, but why do i deserve one
11:04:33 <electrohead> you don't at all
11:04:36 <electrohead> was just fun to say
11:04:39 <electrohead> lol
11:04:55 <electrohead> the sound, though, in that video
11:04:56 <Ampera> none of you deserve anything but a quick and painful death
11:04:57 <electrohead> was amazing
11:05:19 * electrohead drowns Ampera in estrogen
11:05:26 <Ampera> again?
11:05:37 <T3sl4> i wonder what a lethal dose of hormones is
11:05:46 <electrohead> me too, heh
11:05:51 <electrohead> Ampera: yeah, again
11:05:53 <electrohead> :p
11:06:03 <electrohead> maybe this time something will happen
11:06:08 * electrohead runs
11:08:50 <Ampera> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-E1rQpP8MUg
11:08:51 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: A rooster forgets to breathe
11:08:52 <Ampera> nice cock
11:09:28 <electrohead> lmfao
11:09:41 <electrohead> Ampera: that's what she said
11:10:12 <Ampera> ok
11:10:55 <electrohead> No, you're a towel!
11:11:11 * electrohead runs off into the wilderness, laughing hysterically
11:12:36 <Ampera> I've never had a date, but I imagine that's how any one I'd have would end
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11:13:49 <T3sl4> whoops
11:15:10 <T3sl4> anyway, this says testosterone is really low, at least acute https://pfe-pfizercom-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/products/material_safety_data/Testosterone_cypionate_inj_29-June-2016.pdf
11:16:08 <Ampera> Afaik testosterone is a lot more dangerous than estrogen
11:18:00 <T3sl4> estrogen apparently has a lower ld50, but both are quite large quantities, like, you'd have to replace your cooking oil entirely with them in a meal or two to hit it
11:18:06 <T3sl4> which sounds... disgusting i'm sure
11:18:30 <T3sl4> they're both known carcinogens and teratogens of course, because...hormones
11:18:56 <Ampera> One mildly interesting thing is the estradiol tablets I take taste slightly sweet
11:19:10 <Ampera> likely because they're supposed to be dissolved in the mouth
11:19:39 <T3sl4> probably something added, i imagine the active chemical is fairly tasteless
11:20:45 <Ampera> no clue what's in it
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16:25:28 <Halcyon> Hey all
16:28:52 <T3sl4> a Halcyon appears!
16:28:58 <Halcyon> Ta da!
16:29:03 <Halcyon> Although a very tired Halcyon
16:29:07 <Halcyon> I've been up since midnight
16:31:37 <T3sl4> oh noes
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16:32:14 <alfbaz> hi
16:33:26 * T3sl4 hugs alfbaz
16:33:43 <Halcyon> Hey alfbaz. How goes that plaster?
16:34:39 <Halcyon> Also T3sl4, your LARGE PACKAGE seems to be in Sydney now. I reckon it will hit/clear customs early tomorrow morning
16:34:49 <T3sl4> you flatter me
16:35:00 <Halcyon> Well, it's quite hefty
16:35:08 <Halcyon> It came in at over 3.5 kg
16:35:34 <T3sl4> i better check with a dr
16:36:01 <Halcyon> :P
16:36:10 <Halcyon> I wrote (typed) you a note
16:36:18 <T3sl4> :3
16:36:22 <Halcyon> I was going to print it on my dot matrix, but meh. It's all uplugged and stuff
16:36:31 <Halcyon> *unplugged
16:36:35 <T3sl4> i should send you a... hmm, idk, a flashlight i made or something? do you have 18650 cells handy?
16:36:38 <T3sl4> and a charger heh
16:36:40 <Halcyon> I also need a new ribbon for it
16:36:47 <Halcyon> I do
16:36:59 <alfbaz> hey I got distracted, platering continues tomorrow. What are you two sending each other and can I have one too :P
16:37:01 <Halcyon> Why is your flashlight different?
16:37:21 <T3sl4> i have a few extras, as you can tell https://www.seventransistorlabs.com/Images/FlashlightTrio.jpg
16:37:25 <Halcyon> alfbaz: A box of Aussie foods, including Tim Tams, beef and kangaroo jerky, chilli sauces etc...
16:37:58 <Halcyon> OK... it's a light?
16:38:04 <T3sl4> sorry... torch
16:38:11 <Halcyon> Does it do anything funky?
16:38:25 <alfbaz> That's a lotta silicon for a torch :O
16:38:31 <T3sl4> it does everything it should, without any fancy ICs
16:38:37 <T3sl4> (just opamps/comparator)
16:39:08 * DogWomble peers in\
16:39:17 <T3sl4> i've found it very hackable, though virtue probably falls short for someone not building supplies :P
16:39:25 * T3sl4 pees at DogWomble
16:39:29 <T3sl4> peers*
16:39:45 <DogWomble> when they said there'd be showers, i wasnmt' expecitng them to be golden :P
16:40:10 <T3sl4> i've a whole pot of gold, waiting for you at the end of the rainbow ;)
16:40:43 <DogWomble> .ne sings 'it's raining men'
16:41:24 <T3sl4> https://frinkiac.com/caption/S06E11/768700
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16:41:44 <T3sl4> obligatory...that
16:41:49 <alfbaz> Love the construction of the torch
16:41:56 <T3sl4> thanks :)
16:42:34 <alfbaz> what have you got going on? Discrete boost cct?
16:42:48 <DogWomble> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlbqdYFS_8A
16:42:49 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: Simpson, Homer Simpson. He's the greatest guy in history...
16:44:32 <T3sl4> yup, boost with average current mode control, input UV, output OV, OT
16:44:54 <T3sl4> power section https://www.seventransistorlabs.com/Images/Flashlight2Sch.png and control https://www.seventransistorlabs.com/Images/Flashlight2_Schematic.png
16:48:19 <alfbaz> T3sl4, wow man that is very impressive. I'll be thinking of you the next time I'm stuggling with a voltage divider:P
16:48:45 <T3sl4> pretty sure i've solved those on here before but sure :P
16:48:57 <alfbaz> lol
16:53:35 <alfbaz> curious, are you getting pretty much constant light output until the undervolatge limit?
16:54:02 <T3sl4> yes, it regulates output current specifically
16:54:03 <Halcyon> Sorry back, was on the phone
16:54:21 <T3sl4> you need a near full charge to get full output from it, else it throttles down to save the battery
16:54:21 <alfbaz> dog and bone
16:57:07 <Halcyon> Did you build a case to go with it T3sl4 ?
16:57:24 <T3sl4> no, so it's a bit dangerous to handle generally :P
16:57:35 <Halcyon> Hahahaha
16:57:40 <Halcyon> It bites?
16:57:46 <alfbaz> There's a lot to digest there for me, I really need to get back to discrete circuits, it's what got me into this whole mess to start with and then micro's ruined everything
16:58:16 <T3sl4> no, it's safe in hand, i wouldn't recommend shoving it in a pocket with keys and change :P
16:58:32 <Halcyon> Ahh
17:03:05 <steve30> hi Halcyon
17:06:42 <Halcyon> Heya steve30
17:06:46 <Halcyon> How are you?
17:06:56 <steve30> not too bad
17:09:16 * T3sl4 slides steve30 a hot cup of coffee
17:09:37 * Halcyon flicks coffee beans at steve30, one-by-one, annoyingly
17:09:56 <T3sl4> you would flick the bean
17:09:59 <T3sl4> wait, no you wouldn't
17:10:05 <Halcyon> I was about to say
17:10:28 <Halcyon> https://i.imgflip.com/3beyee.jpg
17:11:43 * steve30 purrs at T3sl4
17:14:23 * DogWomble begins a peer to peer gaze exchange
17:14:46 <DogWomble> or is that gays exchange?
17:15:20 <alfbaz> T3sl4, LOL still on about the torch I just noted the complete cct uses 7 transistors :)
17:15:39 <T3sl4> not counting the ICs :)
17:15:54 * steve30 curls up on DogWomble's lap
17:16:06 <DogWomble> :D
17:16:06 <alfbaz> well you know :)
17:18:37 <hsn> https://youtu.be/xt3YSD36ZNc
17:18:37 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: Apple authorized repair LEAKS CUSTOMER'S SEX TAPE during iPhone repair
17:18:40 <alfbaz> LOL there's 7 opamps
17:19:16 <T3sl4> how so?
17:19:16 * hsn gives T3sl4 tea cup of hot
17:19:20 <alfbaz> I bet if I had the masks for thosem each contains 7 transistors :
17:19:30 * T3sl4 gives hsn a bucket of hot shit
17:19:50 * hsn dumb it to the toilet
17:20:02 <hsn> hot toilet
17:20:05 <T3sl4> but will it manage to flush it? :D
17:20:23 <hsn> i think so .. if it didnt .. slap the mechanical manager ..
17:20:38 <hsn> depends on how hot it is also :D
17:20:58 <hsn> if its too hot .. toilet will ejacualate it :D
17:21:28 * T3sl4 steps away from hsn
17:21:53 <alfbaz> ... wel triangle things
17:24:57 * T3sl4 stuffs doritos into alfbaz
17:25:30 <alfbaz> mmm, technical chips
17:27:14 <steve30> i think i'll go to bed
17:27:19 <steve30> i've been tired since i woke u[
17:27:21 <steve30> *up
17:44:48 <K> hello kohlrabies
17:59:27 <Halcyon> Hey K-hole
18:00:44 <K> :|
18:00:50 <Halcyon> *shrug*
18:01:42 <K> :|
18:01:49 <Halcyon> *hugs*
18:09:36 <K> *schreeches*
18:09:48 <K> (alugalug cat song starts to play)
18:10:16 <K> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kG2JvYSqGR4
18:10:17 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: Alugalug Cat X The Kiffness (Soulful Singing Cat Live Looping Remix)
18:16:10 <Nero__> is it bad to connect to an SMD pad from a MSOP or so from the side?
18:16:45 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - Ok, this is pissing me off. The latest release of @MAGIX_INT Vegas is unusable. Crashing every few minutes now.
18:16:55 <Nero__> https://imgur.com/Ec83IBA like this
18:16:55 <EEVBot> [Title] - Imgur: The magic of the Internet
18:17:16 <Nero__> (also isn´t that via in the ground pad just the cutest)
18:29:34 <Nero__> seems like everyone is sleeping here
18:30:10 <K> it is monday
18:31:02 <Nero__> Also, I really wish that Altium had a separate ´selection flag´ for passives and ICs
18:31:21 <Nero__> sometimes I wanna move around the passives around an opamp but it is a pain because you are constantly selecting the opamp too
18:34:29 <Halcyon> K: Stupid cat
18:36:01 <K> u mean
18:44:48 <Halcyon> T3sl4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2LNbAm-CWs
18:44:49 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: Heckin concerned kitten thinks I’m stuck in the camera.
18:50:10 <T3sl4> Nero__: i don't mind doing that, no
18:50:26 <T3sl4> also, how much soldermask is between those pads? you might want to shave them down a bit
18:50:46 <T3sl4> also, you can query like uh
18:54:48 <T3sl4> hmm, not sure, there isn't an IsChip query actually
18:54:49 <T3sl4> IsSMTComponent and not IsSOIC ?
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19:22:05 <Halcyon> I'm going to bed
19:22:11 <T3sl4> o/
19:22:11 * Halcyon slaps T3sl4 on the way out
19:22:42 <K> old slapper that
19:23:00 <T3sl4> he's slap happy
19:24:39 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGi7qzyX8ps
19:24:40 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: South Park - Slap Happy
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20:59:23 <DHess_US> https://i.imgur.com/YemrCMu.mp4
21:01:51 <DHess_US> https://twitter.com/JustynTyme_/status/1401723661317517313
21:13:39 <Nero__> should you also do that via thermal relieve connect thing for the ´heatsink´ pads of DFN´s and similar?
21:13:51 <Nero__> I thought thermal relief was mostly a thing for passives to prevent tombstoning?
21:14:50 <Ampera> DHess_US, I'm not sure who is more fucked up, the people squirming on the floor, or the guy who decided to film it
21:15:24 <DHess_US> obligatory, https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-x3Dg4z5TH0Q/T0JB1zbYYVI/AAAAAAAAAV4/pIvupvCzRwM/s800/thread%2520is%2520unclean.jpg
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23:06:23 <coppice> quick, there's an accident. call for an ambulance
23:07:00 <Ampera> Is this an actual accident, or a Chicago accident.
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