// #eevblog — 2021-06-04
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00:04:17 <K> what does that mean?
00:10:32 <DHess_US> Scowling cyclops?
00:45:59 <Kuschelpony> interesting stuff in the scienece news on "Deutschlandfunk" radio
00:46:36 <Kuschelpony> they found a new way to recycle concrete and get the sand grains back
00:47:19 <Kuschelpony> placing 100kV pulses onto moist concrete pieces
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01:22:39 <flyback> MUST
01:22:40 <flyback> BITE
01:22:42 <flyback> CANUCKS
01:22:45 * flyback looks around
01:23:02 <flyback> oh I got a good video for you guys
01:23:19 <flyback> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dmy9CHCewtg
01:23:20 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: Moores Mill Road
01:23:31 <flyback> this is what happenes when a high voltage line falls on a low voltage line
01:23:37 <flyback> and the protection kickout fails
01:24:24 <flyback> https://youtu.be/Dmy9CHCewtg?t=227
01:24:25 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: Moores Mill Road
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01:45:36 <hsn> flyback: stuff happens
01:46:13 <hsn> Online graduate made that HV protection xD
01:46:25 <Ampera> flyback, have you seen any canadians recently?
01:46:41 <flyback> always
01:47:00 <Ampera> Talked to any?
01:50:15 <flyback> always
01:50:31 <hsn> Ampera
01:50:33 <Ampera> >:D
01:50:41 <hsn> R u ok
01:50:45 <Ampera> HEEEEEEEE
01:50:47 <Ampera> HAAAAAAA
01:50:51 <hsn> Hooo
01:50:52 * Ampera sneezes
01:51:02 <Ampera> how are you hsn
01:51:15 <hsn> Im doing
01:51:38 <hsn> Existing
01:52:10 <Ampera> why are you
01:57:03 <steve30> i think i'll have a beer
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02:57:07 <hsn> hm
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03:44:52 <rust_collector> mOrNiNgSsH
03:47:52 <Ysjoelfir> HiS
03:48:41 <rust_collector> hoiio mr I you
03:49:15 <rust_collector> I am not sure what I mean by that, but hoiio anyway
03:49:50 <Ysjoelfir> Hi!
03:50:05 <rust_collector> oh. Hi! Ysjoelfir
03:50:51 <rust_collector> how is the speed king doing this semi-uppr-ish day?
03:53:16 <rust_collector> it is a hot sweaty day up here. just one more 14 hour day in the sun
03:54:41 <Ysjoelfir> over here was also very way to warm, up until rouhjly one hour. now its raining and thundering.
03:55:28 <rust_collector> I hear we would have some rain and clouds coming tomorrow, down south.
03:56:25 <rust_collector> hmm, interesting. I am eating some mexican something. it is sort of like tacos rolled up in pancakes, then fried
03:56:44 <rust_collector> looks like a spring roll, more or less
03:57:29 <Ysjoelfir> oh, that sounds nice!
03:57:46 <rust_collector> very crispy, and pretty meaty
03:57:54 <rust_collector> I like it
03:58:01 <Ysjoelfir> I would probably as well
03:58:13 <rust_collector> I wonder what it is called, lol
04:00:04 <Ysjoelfir> let me ask mrs spouse
04:00:33 <rust_collector> oh, I found the box
04:00:43 <Ysjoelfir> chimichanga or something like that she assumes
04:00:47 <rust_collector> taquito(s)
04:01:23 <Ysjoelfir> I never heard that. but it sounds great and now I want it. despite my food being very uppr as well.
04:02:14 <rust_collector> very uppr is acceptable
04:13:23 <Ysjoelfir> indeed
04:13:56 <Ysjoelfir> did you see my message in that telegram thing? I finally installed a non windows on my lab pc
04:14:29 <rust_collector> uh, I have not been logged in on telegram for months
04:14:46 <Ysjoelfir> that explains it :D
04:16:06 <rust_collector> so, I see a message saying you installed something non-windows or so.
04:16:17 <Ysjoelfir> yes!
04:16:25 <Ysjoelfir> and a picture of the debian installer thing
04:16:28 <rust_collector> how do you like dos?
04:16:33 <rust_collector> oh
04:17:39 <rust_collector> so, how do you like debian installer?
04:18:17 <rust_collector> i put plain debian on the core duo box. it is running better than it should
04:18:56 <Ysjoelfir> up until now its quite nice
04:19:08 <hsn> Russssty
04:19:32 <hsn> How is u doing
04:19:44 <rust_collector> I am pretty sticky
04:20:09 <hsn> Welldone .. did u swimm in glue pool?
04:20:24 <rust_collector> mmno, I was outside
04:20:40 <hsn> Outside gives sand and sun
04:20:47 <hsn> No sticky
04:20:53 <TheDude> heyo
04:20:58 <rust_collector> I get sticky in the sun.
04:21:01 <hsn> Heyo dude
04:21:04 <TheDude> mexican food \o/
04:21:08 <rust_collector> I think my surface melts
04:21:08 <TheDude> I had some for lunch today
04:21:12 <hsn> Shawarma food
04:21:14 <TheDude> it was fantastic
04:21:20 <hsn> On the way
04:21:43 <hsn> Oh i got a question i saw from TI application today
04:21:44 <rust_collector> enjoy your tortured chicked pieces
04:21:56 <hsn> rust_collector: no
04:22:20 <hsn> They are killed with mercyfull knife
04:22:42 <rust_collector> yes
04:22:55 <rust_collector> after a short but not nice little life
04:24:22 <rust_collector> ok
04:24:25 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cx1qdTx6Lzg
04:24:26 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: The Mad Arab
04:25:00 <hsn> https://youtu.be/0csdBt-6RA8
04:25:01 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: Islamic Method Of Slaughtering Chicken to make it Halal ~ Mahalo JC
04:25:23 <hsn> Haha
04:25:45 <hsn> Mad arab killing chicken .. seems like a title i wanna search for now
04:26:15 <rust_collector> putting tiny explosive vests on chickens...
04:28:29 <coppice> halal, is it meat you're looking for?
04:28:52 <TheDude> rust_collector, you're a vegetarian?
04:29:16 <hsn> coppice: yeah me = halal guy ..
04:29:17 <rust_collector> yes, that is why I just had chicken tacos, lol
04:29:25 <TheDude> oh thank fuck
04:29:32 <hsn> https://www.ti.com/lit/pdf/sboa247#:~:text=A%20strain%20gauge%20is%20a%20sensor%20whose%20resistance%20varies%20with%20applied%20force.&text=To%20measure%20the%20variation%20in,resistance%20of%20a%20strain%20gauge.
04:29:33 <hsn> How is vcm 2.15v ..
04:30:01 <rust_collector> 2.15 volt per centimeter?
04:30:13 <TheDude> common mode voltage, i'm guessing
04:30:36 <TheDude> hsn, what is confusing about that?
04:31:47 <hsn> Oh i ignored r6 and r10 .. and thoughtabout it like (r9+r7)/(r9+r7+r5) x 2.5
04:31:48 <TheDude> okay, I see what you mean
04:31:51 <TheDude> it's 2.3
04:32:10 <TheDude> oh lol, so did I :D
04:32:29 <hsn> Yess
04:32:57 <hsn> So i need to know how to derive the equation they did
04:33:58 <TheDude> uhm
04:34:20 <TheDude> I redid the calculation, I get 2.39V
04:34:32 <TheDude> not 2.15
04:35:34 <hsn> xD
04:35:45 <hsn> I need to eat my shwarma then think about i
04:35:48 <hsn> It
04:36:53 <TheDude> 2.392V when the bridge is balanced
04:36:55 <TheDude> they fucked up
04:37:07 <hsn> https://photos.app.goo.gl/FaRpcdir2epZfUa97
04:37:19 <hsn> Thedude they are wrong?
04:37:51 <TheDude> yeah, looks like it
04:38:01 <TheDude> try to spice it, you'll see it
04:38:32 <TheDude> the whole bridge has a top to bottom resistance of 120ohms
04:38:48 <TheDude> so total resistance from Vex to gnd is 1.39k
04:39:22 <hsn> Yes
04:39:23 <TheDude> you can do the math on how that translates into current and then to voltage at Vi1 and Vi2
04:39:47 <hsn> Yeah .. erm
04:40:03 <hsn> So they fcked my brain for nothing
04:40:04 <hsn> Lol
04:40:32 <TheDude> Rbridge = total resistance of the bridge
04:40:40 <TheDude> and they just calculate it as 4x120
04:40:41 <TheDude> wtf :D
04:40:49 <rust_collector> it was very worth putting that error in the sheet for this
04:40:53 <hsn> 120 it should be i guess
04:41:05 <TheDude> there's no guessing, that's it
04:41:10 <hsn> rust_collector: a brain fck?
04:41:32 <rust_collector> no, I like normal programming languages
04:41:34 <TheDude> side note
04:41:51 <hsn> TheDude thanks man u saves my brain from further fucks lol
04:41:56 <hsn> Saved
04:41:57 <TheDude> these sorts of application notes are often written by engineering interns with questionable knowledge and experience
04:42:19 <TheDude> but apparently nobody checked the math before they okayed this dogshit for release
04:42:38 <hsn> Well hsn goes like .. yeah but im .. less than intern at ti
04:43:01 <hsn> Happens everytime
04:43:03 <TheDude> you assume that they know their shit, as anyone would :D
04:43:06 <Ampera> hullo TheDude how are you
04:43:15 <TheDude> but in reality they actually know shit
04:43:21 <TheDude> heyo, Ampera
04:43:26 <TheDude> doing alright
04:44:07 <hsn> TheDude and i work with shit .. ask rust_collector if u dnt believe me
04:44:16 <hsn> Literally
04:44:19 <TheDude> uh... do I want to know?
04:44:34 <TheDude> something to do with waste water treatment?
04:44:55 <hsn> Yeah its fine .. im better than the room next to my room which is yes
04:45:01 <TheDude> how are you, Ampera?
04:45:05 <hsn> Waste water treatment
04:45:11 <Ampera> tired for absolutely no reason
04:45:24 <TheDude> I'm tired, but I do have a reason
04:45:37 * hsn gives ampera some tire removal
04:45:50 <hsn> Wrench and spanner
04:46:14 <TheDude> hsn, you know that you can type like two characters of a nickname and then hit tab, and it will auto-complete the nickname, right?
04:46:15 <Ampera> I went to sleep at around 19 last night, with my alarm set for 3
04:46:16 <hsn> Stop eating endomi
04:46:25 <Ampera> I slept right past that and woke up at 6, which is my backup alarm time
04:46:34 <Ampera> and despite sleeping all that, I'm still tired
04:46:41 <hsn> Thedude it works with rust_collector but not u
04:47:00 <TheDude> wut
04:47:13 <TheDude> which irc client are you using?
04:47:23 <hsn> The auto complete doesn't work on u lol
04:47:26 <Ampera> he is running hexchat
04:47:30 <hsn> Revolution irc
04:47:30 <Ampera> and revolution
04:47:33 <TheDude> also, Ampera, why did you set the alarm at 3 in the morning?
04:47:36 <Ampera> both connected to a ZNC
04:47:51 <Ampera> his PC runs Windows 10 Pro x64, and his phone runs Android
04:47:54 <hsn> Exactlywhat ampera says
04:48:00 <Ampera> he has an i7-3770
04:48:19 <hsn> Ok thats so much that i should sit and shit
04:48:36 <Ampera> I suppose that's better than standing up and shitting
04:48:41 <TheDude> ^ this guy is literally keeping tabs on all of us
04:48:41 <hsn> Did u ... are u here?
04:49:14 <TheDude> oi!
04:49:21 <hsn> Ampera: open my notepad and say somthing sexy
04:49:31 <Ampera> TheDude is running Windows 10 Pro, with an E5-2680 v3, and HexChat v2.14.3
04:49:44 <Ampera> hsn, go outside and check your mailbox, I did you one better
04:49:57 <hsn> ./whois Ampera
04:50:13 <TheDude> ugh, loonix
04:50:21 <hsn> Ampera: how do u know seriously
04:50:27 <Ampera> Client: HexChat 2.14.3 • OS: ArchLinux • CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X 16-Core Processor (2.20GHz) • Memory: 61.3 GiB Total (41.8 GiB Free) • Storage: 1.3 TB / 1.9 TB (553.5 GB Free) • VGA: NVIDIA Corporation TU116 [GeForce GTX 1660 Ti] @ Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Starship/Matisse PCIe Dummy Host Bridge • Uptime: 1d 2h 44m 54s
04:50:36 <Ampera> this is my system
04:51:09 <Ampera> hsn, magic
04:51:30 <TheDude> 3 o'clock, huh?
04:51:41 <Ampera> darn
04:51:42 <TheDude> hahaha :D
04:51:58 <Ampera> yeah about 9 minutes to 15:00
04:54:13 <hsn> Metasploit use ~/exploits/hexchat2143 --ipv4 ampera
04:54:43 <Ampera> hsn, you also seem to be running a newer version of ZNC than me, seemingly the git/master branch of it, version 1.9.x-git-77-47e633b
04:55:20 <hsn> How do u know all this seriously .. well not znc .. but the cpu and mobile
04:55:38 <Ampera> I'd tell you but it's fun to watch you be so confused
04:56:14 <hsn> Well have fun
04:56:20 <hsn> :(
04:56:29 <Ampera> hsn, /ctcp Ampera VERSION
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05:01:22 <hsn> W
05:01:28 <Ampera> ASD
05:02:08 <hsn> :D
05:02:25 <Ampera> Use this power well
05:02:28 <rust_collector> weird antisocial disorder
05:02:33 <hsn> thanks master
05:03:00 <Ampera> I gave him my penis, but he said he's busy
05:03:02 <Ampera> :/
05:03:18 <rust_collector> how about now?
05:04:18 <Ampera> you were happy enough to take my cholera
05:04:38 <rust_collector> I prefer regular plague, but yeah
05:05:00 <rust_collector> I did get both...
05:05:22 <hsn> shouldnt i be able to change the ctcp reply in hexchat?
05:05:34 <Ampera> you shouldn't
05:05:44 <Ampera> but you can anyways
05:06:08 <hsn> i shouldnt ? why the heck it says my windows and cpu
05:06:33 <Ampera> you said you shouldn't
05:06:35 <Ampera> I said you can anyways
05:07:00 <hsn> tomato
05:07:12 <Ampera> otamto
05:07:33 <hsn> https://snipboard.io/HsmNWP.jpg
05:07:41 <hsn> not here
05:08:58 <Ampera> I mean
05:09:01 <Ampera> you could google how to do it
05:09:13 <hsn> ./set version hello
05:12:45 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/cTZdbrA.jpg
05:13:47 <hsn> yeah it does reply custom stuff now
05:14:09 <hsn> T3sl4, is this dog man or man dog
05:14:13 <Ampera> -hsn- VERSION Revolution IRC:0.5.2:Android via ZNC 1.9.x-git-77-47e633b - https://znc.in
05:14:24 <Ampera> -hsn- VERSION HexChat 2.14.3 [x64] / Microsoft Windows 10 Pro (x64) [Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770 CPU @ 3.40GHz (3.40GHz)] via ZNC 1.9.x-git-77-47e633b - https://znc.in
05:14:28 <T3sl4> yes
05:15:04 <hsn> Ampera .. : https://snipboard.io/4DCe7M.jpg
05:15:26 <Ampera> still looks as it did for me
05:15:35 <Ampera> anyways, I'm gonna take a nap, good night
05:15:38 <hsn> gn
05:48:14 <hsn> https://youtube.com/shorts/208gyh8L0Q0?feature=share
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06:20:38 <Lemon> well well well
06:20:45 <Lemon> I spent the whole day on that damned multimeter
06:20:50 <rust_collector> ok ok ok
06:20:56 <Lemon> the port COM is borked, I tried everything, can't get it to work
06:21:01 <Lemon> outside the case, theres continuity
06:21:07 <Lemon> once assembled, doesnt work
06:21:10 <Lemon> its wonky af
06:21:19 <rust_collector> what are you doing?
06:21:21 <Lemon> sadly its a block with all 4 connectors, so its impossible to change just one
06:21:27 <Lemon> ho you know the 20 euros metrix ?
06:21:34 <Lemon> well first, lcd was wonky
06:21:51 <Lemon> I managed to "fix" it by applying pressure on it via some tape in the case, and cleaning zebra strips with IPA
06:21:59 <Lemon> then it wouldnt take a measure
06:22:09 <Lemon> turns out COM and positive connectors are wonky
06:22:23 <Lemon> I maybe openned and closed this thing 100 times today
06:22:27 <Lemon> so I'll come back to it later
06:22:36 <Lemon> it came with a nice leather bag tho, and the manua
06:22:48 <Lemon> the girl gave me back half the money, as it was supposed to be working
06:22:53 <Lemon> which is good
06:23:38 <Lemon> I'll try again tommorow maybe
06:23:47 <Lemon> its a shame because its working perfectly besides that
06:23:55 <Lemon> and its a 4.5 digit, which is uncommon
06:24:08 <Lemon> build quality is really meh tho, the switch is horrible
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06:33:36 <rust_collector> sounds good
06:34:09 <rust_collector> so, if you put a lead inside on the common, it works ok?
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06:48:17 <Lemon> yeah I tried soldering wires directly at the board
06:48:19 <Lemon> and it works
06:48:29 <rust_collector> that is weird
06:48:37 <Lemon> so its definitively the com port, and the other isnt good either
06:51:52 <rust_collector> but... how bad can one of them be... they are just tubes or so? it is corroded or something?
06:53:42 <Lemon> theres a little pin that connect it to the board
06:53:57 <Lemon> that pin can be removed, its not linked to the tube anymore
06:54:10 <Lemon> I tried to solder it as best as I could but it never works properly for so me reasons
06:54:31 <rust_collector> not enough acid?
06:56:49 <Lemon> I have no idea really
06:56:56 <Lemon> out of the case it works, once assambled it doesnt
06:56:59 <Lemon> I tried everything
06:58:13 <DHess_US> This refurbish and improve a Tektronix DM501A multimeter is getting out of hand. I need to make a schematic of my changes to make sure I order all of the parts that I need.
06:59:45 * T3sl4 looks the heart in its mouth
07:00:56 <Lemon> heh that looks fun https://fr.aliexpress.com/item/1005002612086101.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.6a05416ergx5l6&algo_pvid=3f4e88f4-27d5-4a37-8327-31eb64d1c6ea&algo_expid=3f4e88f4-27d5-4a37-8327-31eb64d1c6ea-50&btsid=2100bde716227538448905716e0d7a&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_
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07:03:54 <DHess_US> The most amusing part is that if I do a search on the subject of what I am doing, the only results on the internet are my own from 2016 where I helped someone else do it.
07:06:03 <electrohead> lol
07:06:06 <electrohead> o/
07:06:13 <steve30> \o
07:12:49 <DHess_US> T3sl4, found a post from 2016 where I say:
07:12:53 <DHess_US> "The input analog switch is directly controlled by the M/-Z signal at
07:12:53 <DHess_US> pin 3 so it would be interesting to just replace the input switch with
07:12:54 <DHess_US> a standard +/-15 volt analog switch like a Vishay DG419"
07:13:00 * DHess_US headdesks.
07:13:15 <T3sl4> you've been working on this quite a while i see
07:13:28 <DHess_US> Yea, but back in 2016 I was working on it for someone else.
07:14:00 <DHess_US> Apparently I am the worldwide expert on this multimeter and how to fix it, and I forgot.
07:14:10 <T3sl4> hehe
07:14:18 <DHess_US> At least according to Google.
07:15:40 <DHess_US> https://twitter.com/FSD_in_6m/status/1400207129479352323
07:17:39 <T3sl4> tesla ported frogger, cool
07:17:40 <electrohead> sounds like you need to widlar-ize it
07:17:48 * T3sl4 electrohammers electrohead
07:19:53 <electrohead> :P
07:20:45 * electrohead offers this - https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/41951/418539/
07:22:32 <DHess_US> T3sl4, I don't think I had a DM501A back when we were discussing it. I received it in a lot of plug-ins which I bought for an AM502 amplifier.
07:23:23 * Ampera hugs electrohead
07:23:31 <Ampera> how are you electrohead
07:23:52 <T3sl4> electrhow are you, Ampera?
07:25:12 <Ampera> sleepy
07:25:28 <Ampera> laying down at the moment, just had a quick nap
07:25:37 <T3sl4> sleeps are nice
07:41:21 <electrohead> I'm doing, you?
07:42:17 <T3sl4> watch the commas
07:49:24 <DHess_US> I know have quite a collection of Milwaukee M12 stuff and M12 batteries. It would be cool to have a UPS which accepts M12 batteries.
07:50:36 <Ampera> think I might go do some more server things in a bit
07:52:09 <DHess_US> What server things might look like, https://beerspill.fark.com/static/drunkfarksysadmin.jpg
07:53:02 <Ampera> kinda
07:53:07 <Ampera> except I don't drink
07:54:50 <DHess_US> Obligatory, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uepFO4psgKE
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10:37:16 <DHess_US> https://imgur.com/gallery/Ard58FL
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11:12:10 <DHess_US> Don't travel with citrus.
11:12:10 <Ampera> DHess_US, don't be so sour
11:12:10 <DHess_US> It explodes. We don't know why.
11:12:10 <T3sl4> i recommend not buying aperture brand citrus products
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16:52:47 <T3sl4> Halcyon: https://i.imgur.com/EmR9TUc.jpg
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17:16:43 <Nero> stoopid question
17:17:29 <Nero> can I re-do the automatic schematic annotation in the PCB view of altium and then force that change over to the schematic?
17:17:50 <Nero> this board will probably be hand-populated and I want to make the poor lad who has to place the 200 components by hand´s life a bit easier
17:22:18 <K> hello otters
17:36:46 * T3sl4 hugs Nero
17:37:39 <T3sl4> and yeah, you can do that. it may be a bit awkward if it's using multi channel design, in which case it keeps track of physical components in a .annotate or whatever file
17:49:40 <Nero> yeah, that makes sense. Not doing mutli channel design though so I guess Iĺl be fine
17:49:46 <Nero> thanks*
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18:17:19 <Nero> so apparently pin 01 and pin 1 are not the same thing to altium
18:19:27 <T3sl4> right, it's a string field
18:27:52 <Lemon> my frens, after disassambling 34232 times this freaking metrix mx 575 4.5 digit handheld dmm
18:27:57 <Lemon> I can finally say
18:28:01 <Lemon> its fixed
18:28:08 <Lemon> lcd fixed, inputs fixed
18:28:15 <Lemon> for how long idk and idc
18:28:17 <Lemon> but it works
18:28:43 <Lemon> I will now eat a kinder pingui to congratulate me
18:33:50 <K> did you find out what was the problem?
18:35:29 <Lemon> yeah com and volt/ohm port are wonky
18:35:34 <Lemon> but I couldnt fix it for some reasons
18:35:44 <Lemon> I had continuity out of the box, but once assambled nope
18:35:51 <Lemon> this time I removed both pins
18:36:01 <Lemon> used two pieces of copper wire of the same diameter
18:36:11 <Lemon> and soldered it
18:36:19 <Lemon> many many hours of tweaks
18:36:21 <Lemon> and now it works
18:36:34 <Lemon> it sounds dead simple but I prolly openned/closed it like 200 times by now
18:36:37 <Lemon> and im not exxagerating
18:37:49 <K> huh
18:37:56 <K> well, at least it is working now
18:43:55 <Lemon> yeah
18:44:04 <Lemon> I'll test later if its accurate, and adjust it if needed
18:44:10 <Lemon> but its nice, it costed me 12 euros delivered lol
18:44:20 <Lemon> 4.5 digits on a handheld is neat
18:51:00 <Lemon> yday for fun, I bought this https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Pro-sKit-MS-B126-Strong-Electric-Vacuum-Chuck-Antistatic-Suction-Pen-For-SMT-IC-Chip-Electronic/33033535801.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.7ee86c37vSAFYw
18:51:01 <EEVBot> [Title] - 301 Moved Permanently
18:51:12 <Lemon> I watched a few videos, it looks cool and quite handy
19:04:06 <Nero> hmm
19:06:08 * T3sl4 squeezes monsieur Lemon
19:06:19 <Lemon> frouichhh
19:15:45 <Lemon> those pick n place stations are neat
19:17:03 <Halcyon> Evening all
19:17:22 <Lemon> bonjour :>
19:21:00 <Halcyon> How are we all?
19:21:06 * Halcyon gives lemon a playful squeeze
19:21:27 <Lemon> heh im happy, I fixed a dmm :>
19:21:41 <Lemon> and im looking at stuff on aliexpress
19:21:56 <Halcyon> Nice
19:25:11 <Nero> damn, I made a mistake and now I have 50 useless connectors sitting here
19:26:24 <Nero> I thought of using two of the LSS series of hermaphroditic connectors of Samtec per board
19:26:28 <Nero> but they highly advise against it
19:26:34 <Nero> so instead Iḿ gonna switch to one, twice as long
19:26:43 <Nero> don´t know why I wanted to use two in the first place actually?
19:31:45 <Lemon> cant help you on that one buddy !
19:31:52 <Lemon> maybe those connectors will help you one day :>
19:36:48 <Nero> eh probably not but whatever
19:36:57 <Nero> itś not my money I´m spending so not too bad ;p
19:37:09 <Nero> they only go to like 10 GHz so not great in that respect either
19:38:03 <Nero> that said, kinda imperssive how cheap they are *considering* they go to 10 GHz
19:38:05 <Nero> wonder what the S11 is
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20:14:34 <Lemon> hooo I just got my dslogic plusssss
20:26:48 <Lemon> and yeah as expected, ic grabbers are utter shit
20:26:51 <Lemon> good thing I bought some
20:40:17 * Ampera hugs Halcyon
20:46:09 <Lemon> well, I have a logic analyzer now :>
20:46:19 <Lemon> I will play with it soon, and ask tons of questions here, as usual !
20:46:40 <Lemon> also I measured some stuff with the metrix, it seems to suffer a bit from nonlinearities, but its within specs
20:46:48 <Lemon> besides some ranges in Ohms
20:48:02 * Ampera squeezes the Lemon
20:48:11 <Ampera> how are you doing my fruity friend?
20:48:50 <Lemon> heh good and you ?
20:49:26 <Ampera> egh
20:49:27 <Ampera> tired
20:49:36 <Ampera> only one day of work left to go
20:49:50 <K> and then what?
20:50:13 <Ampera> then I have another five days of work left to go
20:51:27 <K> right.
20:52:48 <Lemon> somebody knows the Quadrios brand ? for esd mats
20:54:09 <Ampera> I only know ESD Matt for ESD mats
21:03:47 <Lemon> https://www.conrad.fr/p/ensemble-avec-tapis-antistatique-esd-wolfgang-warmbier-1402663cy-1400663c-gris-platine-l-x-l-900-mm-x-610-mm-c-186004
21:03:48 <EEVBot> [Title] - Ensemble avec tapis antistatique (ESD) Wolfgang Warmbier 1402.663.C.Y 1400.663.C gris-platine (L x l) 900 mm x 610 mm c | Conrad.fr
21:04:01 <Lemon> this one looks nice, the brand seems serious, with many certifications etc
21:04:15 <Lemon> not heat resistant but well
21:04:19 <Lemon> cant have everything
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22:03:20 * electrohead yawns
22:04:46 * Ampera sneak-hugs electrohead behind his back
22:05:00 <Ampera> how are you doing?
22:05:23 <electrohead> tired
22:05:26 <electrohead> you?
22:05:29 <Ampera> tired
22:05:30 <Ampera> you?
22:05:41 <electrohead> here we go
22:06:00 <electrohead> was waiting for you to mock me again, lol
22:06:07 <Ampera> around the merry go round?
22:06:11 <Ampera> wasn't mocking
22:06:14 <Ampera> was legitimate
22:06:16 <electrohead> :P
22:06:45 * electrohead delayed-counter-hugs Ampera and his face
22:06:51 <Ampera> <3
22:07:01 <Ampera> it is finally friday
22:07:08 <electrohead> yay \o/
22:07:09 <Ampera> 6 more hours and I can go home
22:07:14 <electrohead> I work the whole weekend
22:07:15 <Ampera> I am already home, but I can go there anyways
22:08:50 <electrohead> yay, new episodes of law and order SVU, and OC
22:08:52 <electrohead> :D
22:08:53 * electrohead downloads
22:09:08 <electrohead> this is my favorite part of friday mornings anymore
22:09:20 <Ampera> the only new episodes I've been watching is episodes of anxiety and depression
22:09:32 <Ampera> I'd rather be watching an animal take a shit
22:10:55 <coppice> SVU, where the special victims are the audience
22:13:02 <Ampera> no no no, it's about the breakup of the bell monopoly and AT&T's refocus on the Unix markets
22:14:42 <coppice> Ampera: or a dyslexic's oversize car
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22:37:30 <electrohead> coppice: who says so?
22:37:44 <electrohead> I enjoy it as a show, that's it
22:38:22 <coppice> electrohead: I'm sure it keeps homes warm and children fed
22:38:38 <electrohead> o.O
22:38:42 * electrohead walks away from this one
22:39:15 <coppice> hey, I'm ascribing noble goals to it
22:39:46 <electrohead> EEVBot: give coffee to coppice
22:39:46 * EEVBot throws screaming hot coffee at coppice
22:40:37 * Ampera revs the stovetop perc to full thrust, threatens electrohead with it
22:41:02 <Ampera> Glass one too, so you can watch your coffee burn!
22:50:05 <electrohead> I can watch the flesh melt off the roof of my mouth, yay
23:37:09 <hsn> oi
23:37:46 <hsn> https://snipboard.io/Jz3nqG.jpg <--- #4 shouldnt it unpass the product ?
23:40:04 <coppice> hsn: dunno. You'd have to read the full test spec.
23:40:46 <hsn> coppice, so this might not be cispr 22 test ?
23:41:46 <coppice> hsn: I don't know the details of the CISPR22 tests
23:42:39 <hsn> coppice, person like me .. loves to see graph with red line that has limits .. and think its that simple :D
23:43:10 <hsn> pass red line ? dangerous .. no pass ? all is well
23:44:11 <coppice> hsn: that's a very simple minded approach to scanning a graph. a lot of test specs have quite complex allowances for things. The fact the bump comes just at the point where the mask rises suggests they were allowing for something around that frequency
23:44:48 <hsn> ^_^ make sense ..
23:49:22 <coppice> there's something more complex going on. Line 7 seems to be 62dB above the CISPR22 class B line, just as its listed. All lines expect 4 seem about right. Line 4 i s also about right, yet the full curve is way above the line. Is this one of those cases where the modulation leaves little energy at the line being tested? Its quite broad, like its CDMA or OFDM
23:50:22 <hsn> oh this is just LoRaWAN devboard from microchip
23:50:39 <hsn> https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/microchip-technology/DM320111/9742611
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23:52:22 <hsn> and there is one on 5th line also although its smaller amplitude just broad too
23:55:34 <hsn> coppice, probably related to this (which i dont understand) ::
23:55:38 <hsn> At the time of publication of this data sheet, the RFO_LF port or SAM R34 is known to be functional buthas not been validated. RFO_LF transmits on 137-175MHz and 410-525MHz bands (synthesizer band 2and band 3).
23:55:54 <hsn> https://snipboard.io/ubCzi5.jpg
23:57:28 <hsn> somehow i thought thats near 237-275MHz .. nvm
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