// #eevblog — 2020-08-29
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00:00:29 <Ysjoelfir> exactly :D
00:01:23 <rust_collector> I did not use to drink energy drinks. I did try red bull when that was a new thing here, but I do not really like it that much.
00:02:20 <Ysjoelfir> I actually only like one variety of... erm.... I think its rockstar
00:02:29 <Ysjoelfir> and red bull cola
00:02:32 <Ysjoelfir> all others... not so much
00:07:19 <rust_collector> I guess, if you dilute it in enough ethanol, I will drink it. especially a bit later in the day
00:09:45 <Ysjoelfir> :P
00:35:47 <rust_collector> mmhf. I mentioned going to work, so it started raining again
00:36:09 <K> it be spying
00:36:17 <rust_collector> and now that I wrote it here, it started raining even more...
00:36:26 <rust_collector> damn you google
00:40:52 <rust_collector> oh ffff... someone broke the cloud
00:54:09 <rust_collector> time to go. good night
00:55:39 <K> nn
01:15:11 <Ysjoelfir> xD gn8 rusty
01:24:41 <steve30> There. Beer kit is done. Should be ready to drink in a few weeks
01:24:53 <Ysjoelfir> nice steve30 :)
01:27:07 <Ysjoelfir> I'm gonna head home. cu all
01:29:10 <K> cyas
03:51:32 <Ysjoelfir> re
03:51:34 <Ysjoelfir> kinda
04:12:29 <steve30> hi
04:12:40 <Ysjoelfir> hi steve
04:16:41 * Ampera breaks something
04:16:46 * Ampera breaks something else
04:17:42 * Ysjoelfir holds his head near Ampera
04:17:53 * Ampera tries to break Ysjoelfir's head, but it's too hard
04:18:14 <Ysjoelfir> I'm sorry
04:18:22 * Ysjoelfir hands Ampera a shotgun
04:18:28 * Ampera blows his own head off
04:18:32 <Ysjoelfir> ey
04:18:42 <Ysjoelfir> thats not what I intended
04:18:57 * steve30 curls up on Ysjoelfir's lap
04:19:01 <Ampera> the road to heaven is paved with bad intentions
04:19:13 * Ysjoelfir pets the steve
04:19:19 <Ysjoelfir> thats true Ampera
04:19:54 <Ysjoelfir> NeroTHz, wouldn't that be something for you? https://www.upwork.com/jobs/Compact-axis-magnetic-loop-antenna-design_~0125d0506bca720bf5/
04:24:32 <Ysjoelfir> Don't we all love jobs like that?
04:24:32 <Ysjoelfir> Based in California, we have been researching and designing new processor technologies and computer architectures to be used to build a new breed of supercomputer that is both faster and more power efficient than any other.
04:24:33 <Ysjoelfir> Our aim is to build a hybrid system that is not only faster than any other on the market but one that consumes less power and is more reliable, through better thermal design.
04:24:33 <Ysjoelfir> Currently we are looking for a team of experienced engineers who can help us realize our goals and we’d like to hear from candidates in the area of computer architecture, data, power and interface engineering who have extensive experience in their field and a flare for problem solving.
04:24:33 <Ysjoelfir> So if you want to be part of a team that is looking to develop a disruptive technology, we'd be glad to hear from you and hear how your experience and expertise can help us realize this goal.
04:24:39 <Ampera> >:(
04:24:42 <Ampera> >:(>:(>:(
04:24:48 <Ysjoelfir> Budget: 15-25$ hourly
04:24:52 * Ampera smites Ysjoelfir
04:24:54 <Ysjoelfir> I love you too, Ampera
04:25:12 <Ampera> wait
04:25:45 * Ysjoelfir waits
04:25:53 <Ampera> they want supercomputer engineers for 25/hr?
04:25:58 <Ampera> (or less)
04:26:00 <Ysjoelfir> 15 to 25
04:26:02 <Ysjoelfir> yes
04:26:07 <Ampera> I make about that
04:26:14 <Ampera> doing qA
04:26:16 <Ampera> er, QA
04:26:34 <Ysjoelfir> and of course they already have that great, ground breaking technology already at hand
04:26:53 <Ampera> I wonder if they're looking to create a supercomputer out of people
04:28:28 <Ysjoelfir> another one with perfectly legit expectations. an IoT startup looking for an expert engineer with at least 5 years in industry. payment would be hourly 5 to 8 dollars
04:29:12 <Ampera> 5/hr is below federal minimum
04:29:41 <Ysjoelfir> 8/hr is below german federal minimum
04:29:55 <Ampera> federal minimum here is 7.25/hr
04:30:04 <Ampera> some states have a higher minimum
04:30:06 <Ampera> many don't
04:32:08 <Ysjoelfir> here its 9.35€. to have a good comparison, that would be... 11.11US$
04:32:45 <Ampera> Minimum in NYS is 11.80/hr
04:32:53 <Ampera> NYC is 15/hr
04:33:26 <NeroTHz> 25/hr? in cali? phahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahaha
04:33:35 <NeroTHz> hahahahahahahahah
04:33:41 <Ampera> hahahahahahahhaahhahahahhaha
04:33:55 <Ysjoelfir> which one do you mean nero?^^
04:34:00 <Ampera> californians don't deserve to even make that much
04:34:07 <Ysjoelfir> ah
04:34:08 <Ampera> they deserve to be exterminated
04:34:13 <Ysjoelfir> california :D
04:34:44 <NeroTHz> the offers I get locally are already significantly better, and I don´t have a 150k/year cost of living here
04:35:11 <Ysjoelfir> :P
04:35:34 <Ysjoelfir> Ampera, close your eyes!
04:35:39 <Ampera> why
04:36:01 <Ysjoelfir> next one: A design for an electric device in the shape of a syringe. Purpose is to emit electrical pulses into the blood when injected in the vein.
04:36:01 <Ysjoelfir> It needs to have a circuit board and a battery.
04:36:01 <Ysjoelfir> I can supply the schematics and the component list. from united arab emirates.
04:36:18 <Ysjoelfir> because copying some longer texts
04:36:25 <Ampera> oh
04:36:27 <Ysjoelfir> you don't like that :D
04:36:28 <Ampera> idc
04:36:32 <Ampera> do whatever
04:36:47 <Ysjoelfir> ok.
04:36:57 <Ampera> ok.
04:37:12 * Ysjoelfir searches for the ban command to ban the not available eevbot
04:38:10 <Ampera> oh shit
04:38:29 <NeroTHz> job offers from delirious startups are always amusing
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04:38:44 <Ysjoelfir> :P
04:39:01 <EEVBlog> nobody saw anything
04:39:04 * Ysjoelfir is working for a delirious startup
04:39:06 <Ysjoelfir> nope
04:39:06 <EEVBlog> carry on
04:39:11 <Ysjoelfir> there was nothing :D
04:39:19 <steve30> hello EEVBlog
04:39:20 <EEVBlog> Hello there, steve30!
04:39:25 <steve30> :)
04:39:44 <EEVBlog> Goodbye There! Steve30!
04:44:21 <Ysjoelfir> I would like to develop a PCB right from the scratch. i just wanted to convert my idea into a design.
04:44:21 <Ysjoelfir> Electronic Circuit to be desiged using STM Controller
04:44:21 <Ysjoelfir> It should have mux demux RS485 Ethernet
04:44:21 <Ysjoelfir> PCB Designing is the next phase of it.
04:44:21 <Ysjoelfir> The entire project details and design files need to be handed over.
04:44:30 <Ysjoelfir> so... what is the goal for that?
04:45:00 <NeroTHz> are you looking at random job offers on freelance markets?
04:45:22 <Ysjoelfir> I am actually looking with very specific search terms. but yes.
04:53:53 <coppice> specific search terms like "high pay" and "get rich quick"?
04:57:48 <Ysjoelfir> exactly
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06:29:04 <electrohead> o/
06:48:01 <Ysjoelfir> hi mr head
06:53:33 <electrohead> he-yo
07:01:22 <electrohead> I think my main file server is due to be torn down and cleaned out
07:01:34 <electrohead> thermal paste, the whole works
07:02:52 <Ysjoelfir> I want a new server, too. or better a new mainboard + cpu for my NAS
07:03:53 <electrohead> what do you current have?
07:04:22 <electrohead> I have a thinkserver, with 4x8 TB drives
07:04:34 <rust_collector> re-morning!
07:04:42 <electrohead> lol, hey rust_collector
07:05:01 <rust_collector> hey mr IT guy person
07:05:26 <electrohead> hey mr rust dude
07:05:28 <electrohead> :p
07:05:29 <rust_collector> huh huh, sorry, I have to do maintenance on my server
07:06:17 <Ysjoelfir> I have an old 3HE server case with 12 old HDDs and a nice highpoint RAID controller.
07:06:19 <Ysjoelfir> and..
07:06:19 <Ysjoelfir> erm
07:06:43 <rust_collector> I wonder if I should slap together a little server, but it would be almost as useful as a 3d printer to me
07:06:44 <Ysjoelfir> a small mini ITX board with an integrated Intel celeron or intel atom thing, singlecore, 1.1GHz
07:06:58 <Ysjoelfir> and IIRC 2gb ram
07:07:06 <Ysjoelfir> do it rusty
07:07:19 * electrohead looks at his specs
07:07:27 <rust_collector> but then I would have to get into art and all that crap
07:07:51 <Ysjoelfir> wouldn't that be nice=
07:08:00 <rust_collector> hmm, how does a raid card connect to the mb?
07:08:07 <Ysjoelfir> yes, its a Celeron 847 in there :D
07:08:13 <Ysjoelfir> mine?
07:08:16 <Ysjoelfir> pci-e
07:08:25 <rust_collector> oh, that is nice
07:08:39 <Ysjoelfir> I think it needs 16x or at least 8x
07:09:05 <Ampera> my server is an old Westmere-EP Xeon thing slapped together harder than an angry 14 year old before a family reunion
07:09:22 <rust_collector> maybe I should grab kid #1s old ryzen junk confuser and use that
07:09:29 <Ysjoelfir> that would work
07:09:34 <Ampera> 5650X, 18GB of DDR3, 14.5 TB of disk
07:09:39 <electrohead> this guy has 32 GB of RAM, 2x Intel Xeon E5620 @ 2.40GHz, the four 8 TB drives, and for the RAID side of things, umm, to be honest, I don't think it's hardware raid?
07:09:40 <Ysjoelfir> I still have an old ryzen. maybe i'll use that
07:09:56 <electrohead> Ampera: lmao
07:10:03 <Ysjoelfir> mine has hardware raid. 12 disks between 500gb and 2TB XD
07:10:19 <Ampera> the board on it is from HP workstation, so the ATX connector on it is nonstandard
07:10:33 <Ampera> so I had to transpose the ATX connector off the PSU with some wires snatched off the PCIe power connector
07:11:15 <rust_collector> A while ago, I was looking at putting a pile of laptop drives in a small box, and use something like a laptop motherboard. more just to use old junk, and also because it could be small
07:11:18 <electrohead> heh, I bought a used full size rack mount server, that still needs to be put to use; desperately need a rack for this fucking thing, as it is huuuuge
07:11:21 <rust_collector> I like small things
07:11:37 <electrohead> rust_collector: that's what she said?
07:11:39 * electrohead runs
07:11:55 <rust_collector> well, she said she would be happy with anything, so...
07:11:59 <electrohead> :P
07:12:03 <rust_collector> a tiny bit will do
07:12:12 <rust_collector> every few months
07:12:15 <Ysjoelfir> seemed to have worked though
07:12:23 * Ysjoelfir looks at rustys kid#1, #2 and #3
07:12:45 <rust_collector> well... you know... technically.... only #3 is produced by me
07:12:53 <electrohead> Ysjoelfir: what's your total usable storage?
07:13:07 <rust_collector> half of a parking garage
07:13:08 <Ysjoelfir> oh. well. :D
07:13:17 <Ysjoelfir> so she'll be the best! XD
07:13:25 <electrohead> lol
07:13:27 <Ysjoelfir> erm... total usable? one sec
07:13:58 <electrohead> I have 22 TB usable
07:14:00 <rust_collector> well, yes, she will be best, technically speaking
07:14:06 <Ysjoelfir> 10TB roughly
07:14:24 * electrohead sends more electrons your way :P
07:14:59 <Ysjoelfir> huh
07:15:14 <Ysjoelfir> the biggest one decided to rebuilt 3 days ago
07:15:17 <Ysjoelfir> I didn't notice
07:15:27 <electrohead> have mine set to rebuild once a month
07:15:29 <Ysjoelfir> probably one of the old drives got a hiccup again
07:16:16 <electrohead> eventually I want to get more drives, and upgrade to ZFS
07:16:24 <Ysjoelfir> https://snipboard.io/PQ1NEi.jpg
07:16:40 <Ysjoelfir> yes, those are all salvaged drives with all different ages
07:17:21 <electrohead> what kind of dashboard is that? err, is that a browser based something, normal GUI, etc?
07:17:30 <Ysjoelfir> its browser based
07:17:34 <electrohead> ahh ok
07:17:37 * electrohead learns
07:17:39 <rust_collector> so, kellyrain is between legacy and 3tb somewhere... that is interesting
07:17:58 <Ysjoelfir> its a highpoint rocketRAID 2840. pretty nice controller actually
07:18:03 <Ysjoelfir> lol trusty :D
07:18:12 <electrohead> lol
07:18:16 <Ysjoelfir> *rusty
07:19:00 <electrohead> mm, anyone have any recommendations for a rack mount server chasis? preferably, something that would fit in my apartment
07:19:26 <Ysjoelfir> I especially like that the CPU is "idling" at roughly 50 to 70% load, just for existing and running my bouncer xD
07:19:36 <electrohead> heh
07:19:38 <Ysjoelfir> The ones I have are all chenbro chassis....
07:19:47 <Ysjoelfir> not cheap, but great
07:20:00 <electrohead> alright, I shall take a look then
07:20:20 <rust_collector> the big blue sun cabinets look awesome, imo. and they have nice wheels too
07:20:23 <electrohead> umm, I'm slowly running out of room in here, as apparently I turned into an electronics/test gear hoarder >.<
07:20:35 <electrohead> so, space is a slight issue
07:21:04 <electrohead> yeah, something with wheels would actually be nice
07:21:37 <Ysjoelfir> well, the definition of fitting is always very personal :D
07:21:49 <electrohead> :P
07:21:57 <rust_collector> they have a very nice light blue, and a cool sun logo on the side
07:22:08 <rust_collector> looks like a boxy retro dridge, I guess
07:22:11 <rust_collector> fridge
07:22:13 <Ysjoelfir> I have a... I think ~40U (?) rack, pretty deep one. that works for me, stuffed into a corner
07:22:21 <Ysjoelfir> I love the old sun gear
07:22:32 <rust_collector> why does this keyboard not work properly again?
07:22:35 * electrohead grabs a picture
07:23:36 <rust_collector> you can get them in black or weird grey also, but I only like the blue
07:25:05 <rust_collector> electrohead, https://www.mattblatt.com.au/mb/buy/maysarah-6-shelves-closet-organizer-wardrobe-rack-clothes-shelf-storage-cabinet-cupboardpinkpink-with-sun-zsnzsnmfsm/
07:25:38 <hsn> hi all ,, gn all
07:25:38 <rust_collector> arrgh, I put too much gravy on this plate.
07:25:49 <rust_collector> or, too little plate, maybe
07:25:54 <electrohead> LOL
07:26:00 <rust_collector> hi hsn... why are you awake?
07:26:10 <electrohead> you know... I would totally rock a server rack with that xD
07:26:13 <electrohead> hey hsn
07:26:13 <hsn> rust_collector im sleeping
07:26:19 <hsn> o/
07:26:19 <rust_collector> oh good
07:26:41 <hsn> rust_collector im telling my wife
07:27:05 <rust_collector> then we can tell our real opinions on you, and you will think it is a dream... which it should be
07:27:06 <hsn> rusty knows my bed time and he always comment on that now xD
07:27:13 <rust_collector> ok, what are you telling her?
07:27:29 <electrohead> https://i.imgur.com/Q3HKVcJ.jpg
07:27:40 <electrohead> that's the only rack setup I have, and for my networking gear and firewall
07:27:54 <hsn> u can tell me ur real opinion even in my awake .. im anti-shocks ..
07:27:56 <electrohead> (sorry for the lighting)
07:27:57 <hsn> xD
07:28:24 <rust_collector> yes, but that would be awkward
07:28:26 <Ysjoelfir> thats cute mr head
07:28:49 <electrohead> cute? haha
07:28:53 <rust_collector> stick some remote controlled rgb led things in there, and a plasma speaker
07:29:00 <hsn> thats lots of cables
07:29:09 <Ysjoelfir> if my rack wouldn't be burried behind a box with a huge BMW motorcycle fairing and a Tandberg receiver I would make a pic for you
07:29:23 <electrohead> heh, yeah, networking cables go all over my apartment >.<
07:29:37 <electrohead> rust_collector: eventually I shall put RGB LEDs in there :D
07:29:45 <Ysjoelfir> today I received 15m of network fiber "wires"
07:29:46 <rust_collector> gawd
07:30:17 <electrohead> I already have an esp32 shoved in an A/B network switch, but.. need to finish that project first, then I'll be able to hook up LEDs, and control from that same esp32
07:30:34 <rust_collector> now you have to glue leds on the ends of the fiber?
07:30:56 <rust_collector> heh, well, at least you are doing your thing, mr head
07:31:10 <hsn> speaking of firewall and lan cables .. https://images.app.goo.gl/EStGTqSPR2kzqViPA
07:31:29 <rust_collector> is that a pic of the roof where you work?
07:32:07 <hsn> who work? :)
07:32:15 <rust_collector> roof... I mean "network area"
07:32:48 <electrohead> why am I being referred to mr. head? lol
07:32:49 <rust_collector> "work" yes I know, but the place you go to all the time to sit and look at free internet
07:33:05 <hsn> werk u mean
07:33:22 <rust_collector> wårk!
07:33:59 <hsn> the african presidant
07:34:12 <rust_collector> aaai
07:34:36 <hsn> https://youtu.be/sAzHN3-Dnqs
07:36:34 <hsn> rusty i tried to find cold weld stuff in high transmition lines .. no luck
07:37:31 <rust_collector> it is what happens when you smash metal together. stop worrying about it. just use the connector that is designed for your wire, and use a proper tool to crimp it
07:42:00 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuMkQxdn7OA
07:42:10 <rust_collector> special for you hsn
07:42:56 <Ysjoelfir> nice :D
07:43:21 <hsn> thankkk uuu <3
07:43:30 <rust_collector> pretty handy
07:43:39 <hsn> rusty dont worry about the damn crimp its done
07:44:01 <rust_collector> I am not
07:44:18 <hsn> good
07:44:39 <hsn> also im officially sleep now gn
07:44:44 <Ampera> sleep
07:44:46 <Ampera> sounds good
07:44:47 <Ampera> good night
07:44:48 <Ampera> going to be now
07:44:52 <Ampera> er, bed
07:44:54 * Ampera is tired
07:44:55 <rust_collector> just in general, I mean, just use what the nerds designed to do what you want
07:45:21 <hsn> hail to all nerds
07:46:02 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuMkQxdn7OA
07:46:53 <rust_collector> ok, good night
07:47:02 <Ysjoelfir> I'll be off to bed, too. gn8 all
07:47:06 <rust_collector> OI!
07:47:16 <rust_collector> ok, be ready for the big party tomorrow
07:47:49 <Ysjoelfir> always!
07:48:01 <rust_collector> i have to raid the weird shelf with bottles, and see if the wife has thrown away my stuff or not
07:48:25 <electrohead> I need to get going for now, my parents said there is a mommy kitty and a few kittens, and they look really hungry
07:48:30 <electrohead> so, I shall be back later on o/
07:48:38 <electrohead> err, outside wondering around *
07:48:47 <rust_collector> oooh, taco night
07:48:54 <rust_collector> have enjoys
07:48:58 * electrohead eats all of rust_collector's tacos
07:49:03 <rust_collector> thanks
07:49:15 <electrohead> :P
07:50:12 <rust_collector> at least I can avoid tacos that way. which is nice
08:33:07 <DHess_US> https://i.imgur.com/WDXKEGl.jpeg
08:33:48 <steve30> o/
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08:42:48 <Halcyon> Mmm coffee
08:42:55 * Halcyon offers Steve a short black
08:42:56 <rust_collector> coffee
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08:50:46 <steve30> hmm, i prefer coffee with milk
08:56:27 <Halcyon> Bah :P
09:02:49 <rust_collector> baileys?
09:03:30 <rust_collector> it is friday.....
09:03:39 <rust_collector> oh, no it isn't
09:16:47 <rust_collector> so, it looks like I maybe have to make a website for the wife. that will be something, because I almost do not remember a thing about that stuff
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09:53:39 <rust_collector> hmmm, cheesecake and coffe and baileys...
10:02:51 <rust_collector> ""easy 15 minute cheesecake" then let it cool down for an hour"
10:08:34 <DogWomble> i love baileys
10:09:00 <DogWomble> though having said that, i was also sipping on some coffee liquer last night that was definitely not bad
10:09:07 <rust_collector> yeh'
10:09:49 <rust_collector> I think we are having some baileys tomorrow. I have to buy more coffee first, lol
10:11:24 <electrohead> o/
10:11:44 <rust_collector> ollaah
10:12:08 <electrohead> coffee and baileys?
10:12:11 <electrohead> :D
10:12:17 <electrohead> my mom invited me up tomorrow morning for that same thing
10:12:28 * Ampera hugs Halcyon
10:12:39 * electrohead pokes Ampera and Halcyon
10:13:43 <rust_collector> I should meet your mom.....
10:15:24 <rust_collector> mom is so into jamaican-ish things, so I only get rum and coke there.
10:15:39 <rust_collector> not that there is too much wrong with that
10:16:39 <electrohead> lmao
10:18:11 <electrohead> well, she just likes the taste of coffee and bailey's
10:18:12 <electrohead> :P
10:18:35 <rust_collector> yes....and... many people do...
10:18:46 <rust_collector> are you saying she is normal?
10:18:56 <electrohead> uhh
10:19:01 <electrohead> well, I'm far from normal
10:19:10 <electrohead> so, lol :P
10:19:22 <rust_collector> well, that was not the question, was it?
10:19:29 <electrohead> haha
10:19:44 <electrohead> I came from her, therefore, if I'm not normal, then she probably isn't, either?
10:20:00 <rust_collector> you are probably not entirely wrong
10:20:31 <rust_collector> or your father had some funny genetics
10:20:38 <electrohead> let's not go there, please
10:20:40 <electrohead> heh
10:21:01 <rust_collector> nah, just saying it is possible that your mom is normal
10:21:19 <rust_collector> in theory, at least
10:21:55 * DogWomble waves at Anoera
10:22:01 <DogWomble> * Ampera
10:22:09 * Ampera hugs DogWomble
10:22:11 <Ampera> how are you doing
10:22:18 <DogWomble> yeah doing ok, how about you?
10:22:28 <Ampera> annoyingly hungry
10:22:44 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Someone found the investor pack for that Nuclear Diamond Battery: https://t.co/gtTR0qzlpk It's on their website. https://t.co/VKovWOCMrP NOTE the complete lack of details on actual power generation. But WOW does it have everything else! cc @thunderf00t
10:23:07 <electrohead> rust_collector: my family is far from normal =\
10:23:12 * electrohead waves at DogWomble
10:23:14 <DogWomble> i am also far from normal
10:23:18 <DogWomble> hey electrohead
10:23:40 <DogWomble> life would be boring if everyone were normal
10:23:44 <rust_collector> https://images.matprat.no/3vv8n3xe6y-jumbotron/large
10:23:48 <electrohead> very true, haha
10:24:01 <DogWomble> ooh now that looks delicious rust_collector
10:24:11 <rust_collector> and I am pretty sure it is
10:24:26 <electrohead> woah
10:24:35 <electrohead> what is that?
10:24:38 <rust_collector> stewed mushrooms in cream sauce
10:24:45 <rust_collector> red onions
10:24:48 <electrohead> mmm
10:24:54 <rust_collector> uhm, some green twigs?
10:25:04 <rust_collector> whale
10:25:24 <DogWomble> blue whale green twigss?
10:25:48 <rust_collector> I do not think we have sold blue whale for some time
10:26:19 <electrohead> most seafood that is available in my local area isn't the best
10:26:22 <DogWomble> *plays klaxxoon sound* negative points for you alan davies
10:26:23 <DogWomble> :P
10:26:30 <rust_collector> hah
10:26:58 <rust_collector> well, one time, the answer was blue whale... but he did not want to say that
10:27:11 <DogWomble> haha yeah i remember that
10:27:32 <DogWomble> i think one of my favourite QI moments has got to be this
10:27:32 <DogWomble> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mx5x549Vb2E
10:27:48 <rust_collector> hmm, it has been a long time since I had whale
10:32:08 <rust_collector> I do like bill bailey. I guess it is because he has my kind of hair
10:32:22 <Ampera> what hair
10:32:59 <DogWomble> there ain't much of it left :P
10:33:07 <rust_collector> right
10:33:28 <DogWomble> he's basically got a semi-mullet - nothing at the front, party at the back
10:33:49 <rust_collector> mmhmmm
10:33:55 <electrohead> lol
10:55:14 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZswWnbQl_P4
11:00:58 <DogWomble> :D
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18:55:57 <Ysjoelfir> that salary sounds adequate. https://www.freelancer.com/projects/mechatronics/Report-writing-about-semiconductor/details
18:57:57 <T3sl4> haha all the scripted bids
18:58:28 <Ysjoelfir> great, isn't it?
19:00:17 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/pcb-layout/Lithium-Ion-Battery-Charger/details
19:00:34 <Ysjoelfir> I realy think many people posting there just don't understand what engineering costs...
19:00:48 <Ysjoelfir> and that japan exists, obviously.
19:01:45 <T3sl4> that's a good $20k design, not to mention another 10 for EMC, and another 5-10 for CE
19:02:00 <Ysjoelfir> exactly
19:02:22 <Ysjoelfir> but hey, there are obviously people doing it for 250 to 750$
19:02:55 <T3sl4> i wonder how realistic those outcomes are
19:03:14 <Ysjoelfir> I wonder if there is any outcome at all
19:03:21 <T3sl4> obviously they'll be doing a shit job of it, but the platform must have some degree of accountability/enforceability built in?
19:03:57 <Ysjoelfir> I think they have that only payment wise. like they ensure that you get paid. I don't think they have any securities for the customer
19:04:18 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/arduino/video-board/details thats more reasonable. I think I'll propose for that. nice weekend project
19:06:37 <NeroTHz> how can you compete with these kind of prices
19:06:43 <NeroTHz> jesus
19:06:52 <Ysjoelfir> you can't.
19:07:20 <NeroTHz> that is what I would expect as hourly rates for proper freelancing lol
19:07:27 <Ysjoelfir> which is why I only propose to projects which are reasonably priced or have some project that I'm personally interested in and might be worth adding to a portfolio
19:07:31 <Ysjoelfir> yes, indeed
19:08:05 <Ysjoelfir> the last link is a... 3 to 4 hour job, and I'm curious to know what its doing, so thats fine for me.
19:08:21 <Ysjoelfir> but is it worth it? absolutely not
19:08:51 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/electrical-engineering/Autonomous-watering-system/details another one I think could be kind of interesting, but... erm.... not for that price obviously :D
19:09:20 <NeroTHz> that first link on the report is so obviously someone who needs a thesis writen for them that it hurts
19:09:57 <Ysjoelfir> the report writing about semicons?
19:10:03 <NeroTHz> ye
19:10:08 <Ysjoelfir> yep, thought the same
19:10:47 <hsn> one of the bidders :
19:10:53 <hsn> Hello Having experience in Lithum Ion Battery. I have the energy and wisdom ... etc
19:11:01 <hsn> so .. he has wisdom
19:11:08 <Ysjoelfir> must be a sage
19:11:12 <NeroTHz> and what depresses me even more is that there are a lot of people who just blatently accept that they are helping someone cheat
19:11:20 <Ysjoelfir> and a battery, as he has ENERGYYYYY!!!!
19:11:31 <Ysjoelfir> yeah, I agree NeroTHz
19:11:56 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/pcb-layout/PCB-Design-27089225/details that one would be interesting, if it wouldn't be in indian rupees. xD
19:12:14 <hsn> indianist
19:12:42 <Ysjoelfir> somehow everytime I see a job with indian rupees as the currency I immediately close it
19:12:57 <Ysjoelfir> as I NEVER came across one of those that was anywhere near reasonably priced
19:13:27 <hsn> well .. the guys are cheap .. and ... i dont want to be indianism like u Ysjoelfir :)
19:13:29 <hsn> xD
19:13:34 <Ysjoelfir> xD
19:13:37 <hsn> but .. yeah .. i dont trust them
19:13:43 <hsn> most of them ofc
19:14:02 * Ysjoelfir wiggles his head
19:14:07 <Ysjoelfir> but to be serious:
19:14:14 <Ysjoelfir> I have worked with many indian people in the last years
19:14:33 <Ysjoelfir> they are hard working, very nice people. but they just sell them way under worth
19:14:45 <hsn> in here the one i worked with .. they work hard .. but brain is not involved !
19:14:55 <Ysjoelfir> which results in VERY low expectancies, low quality and low prices
19:14:59 <Ysjoelfir> lol
19:15:07 <hsn> the ones *
19:15:50 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, i swear to u .. one of them used to do (sorting some materials by length) in excel
19:15:52 <NeroTHz> A guy at bell labs once told me that if an indian engineer is any good at engineering, he/she won´t be working from india
19:16:01 <hsn> and choosing (sort 1 column) of the table
19:16:03 <hsn> for a month
19:16:22 <hsn> until i discovered the issue of material control / mismatch with engineering team!
19:16:41 <Ysjoelfir> lol @ hsn :D
19:16:48 <Ysjoelfir> and NeroTHz - thats what I witnessed, yes
19:17:27 <hsn> and then ... i just said nothing .. i was like .. eh .. ok .. u was the "card dealer" and fcking the system all the time ..
19:17:38 <Ysjoelfir> lol
19:19:17 <NeroTHz> India is also a crazy diverse place
19:23:53 <hsn> https://www.republicworld.com/technology-news/science/elon-musks-neuralink-launches-brain-hacking-device-link-v0-dot-9-with-sur.html
19:24:09 <hsn> :palmtreeface:
19:24:41 <T3sl4> bob terwilliger, is that you?
19:25:00 <Ysjoelfir> wth...
19:25:11 <hsn> yes
19:25:33 <Ysjoelfir> I just did the "US English - Level 1" exam at freelancer. I passed with 90% because I went timeout.
19:26:11 <Ysjoelfir> I think my english is... ok-ish as I regularely speak and write english.
19:26:42 <hsn> so u can speak T3sl4 level 1 language 90% efficient
19:26:43 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/gwnvKTF.jpg?fb
19:27:07 <Ysjoelfir> WHY did I only manage 90% and went timeout after 5 minutes, when other people answer those 20 multiple choice questions in 0:46 min!? you can't even read the questions that fast
19:27:24 <hsn> T3sl4 stop posting my face
19:27:28 <Ysjoelfir> lol
19:27:39 <T3sl4> read the questions with an alternate account, answer them on primary acct
19:28:01 <hsn> T3sl4 ,, let me tell u sonthing
19:28:05 <Ysjoelfir> that would cost me twice the money. do they realy do that? Oo
19:28:23 <Ysjoelfir> ah. no
19:28:23 <hsn> u cant deliver a baby in 4.5 months with 2 women ..
19:28:24 <Ysjoelfir> http://freelancetopic.com/us-english-level-1-test-answers/
19:28:48 <Ysjoelfir> ah, its even 40 questions, not 20
19:28:49 <T3sl4> probably? sell access for pennies on the dollar
19:29:04 <Ysjoelfir> you can't even read those that fast :X
19:31:14 <hsn> thats why u need to plant elon mask coin
19:31:18 <hsn> to ur head
19:31:35 <Ysjoelfir> I think I'm to honest for this world :D now its official that I'm only 90% proficient in nursery level english
19:32:18 <NeroTHz> isn´t that first question already wrong?
19:32:30 <NeroTHz> I think it should be ¨David would rather quite than get fired¨
19:32:43 <NeroTHz> though I understand that david might also not appreciate being fried
19:33:16 <hsn> i would answer before
19:34:41 <hsn> NeroTHz, they mean ... fired
19:35:14 <NeroTHz> I mean, the statement ¨John have never thought of going there one day¨ Could be correct, if you add the information that ¨John¨ is actually a post-modern math-indie band from the florida keys.
19:36:05 <Ysjoelfir> haha :D
19:36:59 <Ysjoelfir> I think I try the digital electronics test. another 5€, but I'm curious what questions they have
19:37:22 <NeroTHz> don´t support the system man
19:37:28 <NeroTHz> don´t feed the cheaters for 5 bucks
19:37:28 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFa8O1t_twg
19:37:33 <hsn> i think .. would it help u?
19:37:35 <Ysjoelfir> I found a cheaper way to know that
19:37:43 <Ysjoelfir> I'm sure it won't
19:38:18 <hsn> then dont ..
19:38:28 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ7r9gbeKy29jdyG563ZUKQ/videos lol
19:38:42 <hsn> its like ur registering in that etorro
19:38:48 <hsn> goji bobo
19:39:08 <hsn> hahahha
19:39:23 <hsn> all of them are guru
19:39:41 <hsn> guru web content writer
19:40:46 <Ysjoelfir> all of them!
19:43:36 <Ysjoelfir> so I was just discussing ancient Lego boxes with a friend and wanted to show him one I had as a child and absolutely loved. turned out, my fingers or my keyboard thought differently, as I typed (translated from german off course....) "Lego Space Shit 1996" instead of Lego Space Ship
19:49:27 <hsn> i cant grip the wheel steering . hot
19:49:38 <hsn> fck the sun
19:49:50 <Ysjoelfir> lol
19:49:56 <Ysjoelfir> put the phone away while driving :P
19:50:26 <Ysjoelfir> btw: nice track to listen to in the background while working. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzK79PgKITI
20:02:40 <hsn> let me show u the road
20:11:52 <hsn> https://photos.app.goo.gl/S3HkmYXw4bmCmHSp8
20:12:05 <hsn> rust_collector ^
20:14:30 <hsn> rusty enjoys the non green views
20:14:38 <hsn> shame
20:20:24 <hsn> also the 31C is a lie my temp sensor is not working .. somtimes its -5 degrees
20:29:36 <Ysjoelfir> lol :D well, if its so warm I would take a nap in the shadow, too^^
20:30:35 <Ysjoelfir> oh, by the way: can you explain to me why many arabian people have like tons of fur and cloth and fabrics on their dashboards? I have seen that when I was in ehypt and turkey a lot, too
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20:42:32 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, if i dont put .. the sun will fuck my dashboard
20:42:54 <hsn> and u come after work .. its soft melted dashboard .. sticky ..
20:43:13 <hsn> i imagine with invisible fumes also
20:43:13 <Ysjoelfir> is it realy only because of the heat? wow. I always thought it has some sort of cultural reason
20:44:10 <hsn> no .. maybe few others would do it for looking .. but i dont think egyptians have extra money for such thing
20:45:03 <hsn> it will be somone in gulf countries who do it for looking
20:45:38 <hsn> on his landcruiser changed interior to red color or somthing
20:48:00 <hsn> Ysjoelfir haha @this https://youtu.be/h-zwLtYD4sI
20:48:43 <Ysjoelfir> wel.... xD
20:48:46 <Ysjoelfir> *well
20:48:52 <Ysjoelfir> someone seems to have wo much money :D
20:51:16 <hsn> probably no knowledge or brain also
20:51:46 <hsn> somehow the money in this world goes to ppl who dont desrve it in my opinion
20:52:18 <Ysjoelfir> isn't that always the case?
20:52:27 <Ysjoelfir> I sometimes wonder if its actually a different thing
20:52:39 <Ysjoelfir> like... people start out mostly the same, but money kills their character
20:54:14 <hsn> i dont know but i dont imagine trump to be sane
20:55:46 <hsn> in here (not bahrain but other gulf) lots of wealth is due to Tribalism
20:56:29 <Ysjoelfir> true
20:58:20 <hsn> for example "saudi" is only called "saudi" becuase current royal family won controlling it .. they are tribe .. and they have other tribe friends who have loyality and friend ship .. so u see wealth and control to camel un educated ppl
20:58:44 <hsn> the whole country name "saudi" is after their family name
20:58:49 <Ysjoelfir> I see. hm.
20:59:06 <Ysjoelfir> so I would now be living in Merkelistan XD
20:59:45 <hsn> so name germany to steinmeiery
21:00:15 <hsn> or that yeah
21:00:16 <hsn> lol
21:00:43 <hsn> this is the lady who allowed lots of syrians war victims?
21:02:18 <Ysjoelfir> its that always sad and grumpy looking old woman who is our chancelor for what feels like 500 years now, doing basically nothing, who gets elected always again because all the old people are like "we always voted for that party, why should we change anything?".
21:02:36 <K> T3sl4, do you use asf for that xmega or something else?
21:02:36 <T3sl4> just libc
21:02:36 <K> ok
21:02:36 <Ysjoelfir> yes, I discounted the passives
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21:02:36 <Ysjoelfir> T3sl4, if you are interested to see that thing https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Sn2gfiNlZzJmdetOQZHZoZSJbqJSB67Y?usp=sharing
21:02:36 <Ysjoelfir> not done yes, but its a rough sketch
21:02:36 <rust_collector> brrmbbppp
21:02:36 <Ysjoelfir> enjoy, rusty
21:02:36 <rust_collector> so, I like the way belarus name things. "Palieski State Radioecological Reserve"
21:02:37 <Ysjoelfir> I dislike how german TV and radio news people pronounce belarus
21:02:37 <Ysjoelfir> and that they don't call it how its called in german (Weißrussland - white russia)
21:02:37 <rust_collector> I met a guy at work yesterday, he is from belarus. nice enough guy.
21:02:37 <rust_collector> yeah, same here
21:02:37 <Ysjoelfir> they regularely say it as if they were some italian gigolo wanting to impress a woman. Bella ruuuuuuuus!
21:02:37 <Ysjoelfir> I always immagine them standing there, doing the italian hand thing^^
21:02:37 <T3sl4> Ysjoelfir: i see only... about six? things that a novice wouldn't be expected to know about offhand :)
21:02:37 <Ysjoelfir> that one https://www.newstalk.com/content/000/images/000010/10319_60_news_hub_multi_630x0.jpg
21:02:37 <rust_collector> oh no! not the "italian hand"
21:02:37 <Ysjoelfir> T3sl4 - as I said, discarding the passives^^ I never worked with the two sensors, the µIC, and that kind of flash. well, ok. 90% might be a bit exaggerated :D
21:02:37 <T3sl4> :)
21:02:37 <Ysjoelfir> oh, and I hope the RF stuff works the way the datasheet of that chip antenna describes.
21:02:37 <Ysjoelfir> so does that smiley mean you approve? :P Or is it a "meh, I better say nothing not to hurt his feelings" XD
21:02:37 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/MoBHadL.png
21:02:37 <rust_collector> hmm, kid #3 has hooked up some arduino to leds at school. there is a button, I dunno, it is not the best film, so I just assume it does something
21:02:37 <T3sl4> agreement. if i cared about hurting peoples feelings i'd never talk
21:03:26 <Ysjoelfir> and yes, she invited roughly 150.000 refugees every year
21:03:44 <Ysjoelfir> xD
21:03:52 <Ysjoelfir> (last year it was roughly 250.000 people)
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21:04:34 <Ysjoelfir> whoops :D
21:05:01 <Ysjoelfir> remember to have the browser in focus if you want to ctrl+w to close the tab
21:05:46 <hsn> i heared from someone who reads lots of politics ... its actually calculated numbers and they germany really need cheap human power in jobs like builders and workers no education needed ..
21:05:50 <Ysjoelfir> so rusty is training kid#3 to be a good technician, I very much approve of that
21:07:01 <hsn> where does these refugees work or do
21:07:02 <rust_collector> I guess, if she is interested in that, I have some spare things here and there
21:07:04 <hsn> ?
21:08:11 <Ysjoelfir> it was like that in the 70's, we basically grabbed every cheap worker we could find. now we need skilled labor and all those refugees are sitting here, getting no jobs, being in awful camps in a land that doesn't want them (at least most people either don't care or don't want them here). Poor people. I feel kinda sorry for them, they wished for a better life, left everything, and don't find anything they dreamt of now
21:09:32 <hsn> do they make troubles?
21:09:40 <Ysjoelfir> most don't, some do
21:10:08 <hsn> yeah .. wars are .. just sad ..
21:10:23 <Ysjoelfir> I live very close to one of those refugee camps. most are very nice people, but some are total dickheads. damaging other peoples property
21:10:26 <Ysjoelfir> like
21:10:40 <Ysjoelfir> I had a firefighter truck once which I wanted to repurpose as a camping van
21:10:57 <Ysjoelfir> :P but don't let her steal your tubes!
21:11:01 <hsn> shouldnt the trouble makers just get kicked out?
21:11:07 <Ysjoelfir> they regularely smeared stupid paroles onto it, broke my mirrors, cut the tires,...
21:11:08 <hsn> of the country
21:11:15 <Ysjoelfir> yes, they should. but that won't happen
21:11:23 <rust_collector> we will see. if she likes that stuff, she is the kind of person that could learn that in no time.
21:11:27 <hsn> why "humanity"?
21:11:53 <Ysjoelfir> and then teach you?^^
21:12:00 <Ysjoelfir> because of german refuge laws
21:12:15 <rust_collector> that is a more difficult project
21:12:23 <Ysjoelfir> XD
21:12:26 <hsn> their must be exception to trouble makers
21:12:55 <Ysjoelfir> land of origin is dangerous? nope, can't force them to go back. no obvious future in the land? nope, can't send them back. awaiting problems with the government in the land? nope.
21:13:32 <K> will make you arduino!
21:13:37 <hsn> trouble maker ? ok gtfo?
21:14:34 <rust_collector> I am just trying to think back to school... well, we did not have arduinos, but.. uhm.. did we have anything else?
21:14:51 <Ysjoelfir> our "solution" is, to "educate" those people and make them a "valuable part of society". eg. by inviting them to visit schools, giving them free houses, bringing their families here for free, giving them free social help (free car, rent, food, PC, mobile phone, insurances....) and so on
21:15:02 <hsn> i only read the title was on girst page google
21:15:04 <hsn> http://reliefweb.int/sites/reliefweb.int/files/resources/TCM-Dev-Rietig-FINAL.pdf
21:15:30 <hsn> thats bad for economy?
21:15:32 <rust_collector> we did have power outlets at the bench, and I think we messed with light bulbs and motors. but that was probably it
21:16:56 <rust_collector> yeah, power down the field coils... hmmm
21:17:02 <NeroTHz> from what I´ve seen, one of the number1 issues with refugees is that they are pretty much treated as prisoners in a lot of refugee camps, and as a result they get bottled up frustration that bursts out. It´s a hard problem to solve, but I don´t think just sending them back is a solution
21:17:22 <Ysjoelfir> which brings you to interesting things like a man who raped a school girl and later lit her on fire by pouring fuel over her in public and igniting it. the court decided that it was because of his traumas from the war in his country, so they got his whole family here, too, and allowed him to officially mary his third (?) wife here in germany. that "wife" was like 13 years old.
21:17:29 <Ysjoelfir> we had... no electronics course at school.
21:17:58 <Ysjoelfir> sure its bad for economy, but what do you want to do hsn? especially in germany? you do anything remotely bad to people that are not german and you're a racist.
21:18:37 <rust_collector> Not in regular school, but I think we had some very basic stuff in.. uhm, the next school. I think it was more electric than electronic
21:19:03 <Ysjoelfir> yep @ NeroTHz. thats the big issue. one should do SOMEthing, but ANYthing you CAN do won't help solve the problem
21:19:09 <Ysjoelfir> If your school system is simmilar to ours I meant the same.. next school^^
21:19:22 <rust_collector> yeah, same-ish
21:19:41 <Ysjoelfir> like I was talking about in grade 5 to 13. not 1-4
21:19:41 <Ysjoelfir> and most of the things you CAN'T do won't solve it, too
21:19:50 <hsn> ah .. fck this racist word .. yeah racist is bad but u cant just fck ur ppl and no one talk
21:20:40 <rust_collector> we split it up in 1-6, 7-10, which everyone does, then 11 to xx
21:20:59 <rust_collector> well, back then, it was 1-6, and 7-9
21:21:01 <hsn> also .. mary 13 years old is allowed in germany?
21:21:07 <Ysjoelfir> and this is the point where I, as a german, have to exit the discussion, as my origin tells me to be careful with what I say XD
21:21:11 <Ysjoelfir> no its not
21:21:36 <Halcyon> Ysjoelfir
21:21:38 <hsn> so refugees are above law?
21:21:39 <Halcyon> I loved your recipe
21:21:51 <rust_collector> so, this was the first year of learning a trade sort of school
21:21:56 <Ysjoelfir> we have 1-4 and 5-10 for everyone, and then 11-13 to get abitur. it went down to 11+12, but is now up to 3 years again
21:21:59 <Ysjoelfir> yes, its me hulcion! :D good to know, I'm happy you like it :)
21:22:15 <hsn> im happy u r happy
21:22:31 <rust_collector> it depends here. some things take more time than others
21:22:36 <Ysjoelfir> hsn - in a way, yes. there are some groups of people that get milder jurisdiction (?) if you get the right judge
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21:23:13 <rust_collector> I did one year in school here, then moved to a different school, for one year, and spent 3 years working as an apprentice
21:23:29 <hsn> that jew problem is fcked up germany imo
21:24:09 <Ysjoelfir> I did also do an apprenticeship as I didn't want to do the abitur with my bad grades back than, which is why I left school in year 12.
21:24:18 <hsn> ppl cant refer to it forever and things should be discussed realistically ..
21:24:53 <Ysjoelfir> you wouldn't even be allowed to say "jew" and "problem" in one sentence here if you are on the public street XD
21:25:09 <Ysjoelfir> you can immagine there will be someone punching you in the face like 5 minutes later
21:25:40 <hsn> can u say .. its a problem to talk bad about jews?
21:25:52 <rust_collector> the first year was the basics of mechanical things, and the very very basic electric things. machining, welding, drawing parts, putting half of a truck turbo on an old outboard, to see if that did anything... the next year was digging holes and blowing things up. that was fun.
21:25:55 <Ysjoelfir> yes.
21:25:58 <Ysjoelfir> well
21:26:01 <hsn> xD
21:26:11 <Ysjoelfir> its a problem to talk bad about any race or religion
21:26:19 * T3sl4 sips a coffee
21:26:28 <hsn> imo its fine if its true ..
21:26:42 <Ysjoelfir> THAT sounds like a realy substantial thing. way better than what we had ^^
21:27:17 <rust_collector> I think we had a bit of pneumatic things too, in that first year.
21:27:46 <Ysjoelfir> it doesn't matter if you say "jews have a hooky nose, they are all assholes!", which is very bad in itself, or if you just say "the person that stole my purse while pointing a knife at me was a black man", which would be an acurate description from what you witnessed. there will always be someone complaining why you had to mention the race, religion, sexuality or whatever of person X
21:27:47 <rust_collector> But I think it was good, because of that one teacher we had. not so much because of the school itself
21:28:17 <Ysjoelfir> [13:26:25] <hsn> imo its fine if its true ..
21:28:33 <Ysjoelfir> it should be fine, as long as its not a generalisation
21:29:13 <NeroTHz> Thing with the idea ´it´s fine if it´s true´ is that a lot of new evidence is showing that when you properly take into account environmental information, there tends to not be any difference between ¨races¨ of people
21:29:41 <Ysjoelfir> thats what I meant with as long as its not a generalisation
21:29:43 <rust_collector> he was very into letting us do weird things, if he thought it would teach us...something
21:30:01 <T3sl4> https://i.redd.it/vlxm5bkfuoj51.jpg
21:30:01 <Ysjoelfir> if you say "all jews/arabs/muslims/gay people/whatever are this and that" you are a dick
21:30:30 <Ysjoelfir> but if you describe one individual by pointing out those facts of his race/origina/orientation/visual appearance it shouldn't be a problem, should it?
21:30:43 <hsn> if 90% of trouble makers in refugees are muslim .. is it wrong or racist with stating that?
21:30:50 <Ysjoelfir> those are the best teachers imho :)
21:30:52 <rust_collector> he did not like it when we launched the chuck key out of the lathe, but other than that, most things were cool
21:30:57 <Ysjoelfir> and I have strange tan lines, too xD
21:31:00 <Ysjoelfir> lol
21:31:06 <NeroTHz> hsn, I´m gonna go out on a limb and say that that is both incorrect, and just stupid to claim in the first place
21:31:22 <Ysjoelfir> doesn't that happen to everyone once in a while? launching a chuck key I mean
21:31:43 <rust_collector> well. it has to be done. but he did not like it
21:31:51 <NeroTHz> 1) you can´t say anything usefull without taking into account original distribution. EG, 99% of criminals have two feet, hence bipedal humans are inferior
21:31:52 <hsn> NeroTHz, lets just assume its a fact ..
21:31:58 <hsn> before claiming
21:31:59 <Ysjoelfir> I think hsn wanted to say "If I have evidence that it is the case and also a statistically significant amount of cases"
21:32:05 <Halcyon> Herro everyone
21:32:11 <Ysjoelfir> like, hypothetically
21:32:15 <Ysjoelfir> Hi Halcyon again :D
21:32:16 <hsn> yess
21:32:18 <NeroTHz> The problem is that you need to take into account correlations
21:32:30 <hsn> Halcyon hero to u
21:32:39 <NeroTHz> EG, in medicine, they historically had different treatments based on race, because it seemed to be that certain races had different issues more
21:33:19 <rust_collector> The phoneme inventory of the modern Belarusian language consists of 45 to 54 phonemes: 6 vowels and 39 to 48 consonants, depending on how they are counted.
21:33:26 <hsn> NeroTHz, the subject is going into other direction .. i wanted to say their might be a fact that u can say and it generelizes somthing ..
21:33:42 <rust_collector> that sounds easy... if they don't even know how to count the letters
21:34:01 <NeroTHz> however, that was just caused by underlying factors: eg, people from lower-wealth communities often showed up more with symptom X, and people of african descent made up a much higher percentage of that demographic, and then in big studies where you just look at the race, and ignore background,. suddenly it seems that your african people just show up with far more of symptoim x than everyone else
21:34:36 <NeroTHz> hsn what I´m saying is that almost all cases where you compensate for things like background and social status, usually racial differences dissapear
21:35:17 <NeroTHz> and to me, most people goign ¨oh but look this shows that it might be true¨ is just closeted racists trying to be in denial that they might be slightly more racist than they want to admit and their subconsious is trying to give themselves an ´out´ to not feel guilty
21:35:41 <Ysjoelfir> I still think what hsn wants to know is: If, hypothetically, there would be a difference, would it still be racism to take race or whatever into consideration?
21:36:07 <Ysjoelfir> and:
21:36:21 <NeroTHz> depends on what you are doing. if you take race into account, it is racism. But if it is morally wrong? I don´t know. it´s hard to say
21:36:21 <hsn> NeroTHz, sometimes traditions of some group .. can create a higher personality within individuals .. statiscally that race/group would have bigger percentage related to others ..
21:36:38 <NeroTHz> but I´m gonna withdraw from this discussion before I get worked up
21:36:55 <Ysjoelfir> if race/orientation/color of skin/whatever is used to describe one individual, is that racism?
21:37:16 <Ysjoelfir> [13:36:17] <NeroTHz> [...] But if it is morally wrong? I don´t know. it´s hard to say
21:37:25 <Ysjoelfir> ^ that is exactly my problem I have with this whole topic
21:37:34 <hsn> :)
21:38:08 <Ysjoelfir> at least here you get indoctrinated that it IS always wrong to even consider noticing that someone is not exactly identical like yourself
21:38:20 <NeroTHz> I tend to live on the cautious side of the fence. I prefer to be too careful, and risk perhaps over-doing it, instead of risking unfairness
21:38:35 <NeroTHz> but as I said, I´m gonna withdraw now and get back to writing my paper
21:38:47 <hsn> Ysjoelfir most of isis troops are muslims .. that would be wrong?
21:38:59 <hsn> gl NeroTHz
21:39:23 <Ysjoelfir> same here. which leads to intereswting situations. like me feeling uncomfortable talking to people of color because I am scared to hurt their feelings by maybe looking at them with a wrong facial expression or whatever. though I'm sure those people don't even care about my face at all XD
21:39:39 <hsn> btw Ysjoelfir
21:39:41 <hsn> in here
21:39:49 <hsn> we say black and white
21:39:53 <hsn> like normal
21:39:59 <hsn> we even say .. wait
21:40:14 <rust_collector> hmm, the second year was a bit more meh. one of the projects we were doing, was to extend the runway on a small airfield. but most of the winter, it was too cold to do anything, so we went there in the morning, fired up some of the more difficult machines, and let them warm up a bit, had lunch, talked about things, went back to school...
21:40:53 <hsn> black slave as description .. lol no one take it as serious racism not even black pll .. !!
21:41:41 <hsn> who ever say "black slave" he really just descriping the color with no concious
21:42:18 <Ysjoelfir> NeroTHz yeah, its a very hard topic and I always get stressed out talking about it, too, as I often think I'm racist just because I'm german, and one austrian dickhead managed to turn half a country into being racists, so I must be racist too, right? but i think its a very important topic, which is why I keep getting myself involved. So I understand that you don't want to get involved more :) thanks for your input though, I always
21:42:18 <Ysjoelfir> appreciate it.
21:42:49 <Ysjoelfir> hsn, thats another thing: different cultures have different things how they call something.
21:42:56 <Ysjoelfir> I have a great example for german language here
21:44:15 <Ysjoelfir> for YEARS it was totally ok to call this piece of confectionery https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81mHFH49c7L._AC_SX466_.jpg a "Negerkuss". translates to Negro Kiss.
21:44:46 <hsn> lol
21:44:52 <Ysjoelfir> I grew up with it being called like that and I kind of understand why its called like that. and I knew many people of darker skin color that also called it like that
21:44:56 <hsn> why not anymore
21:45:29 <Ysjoelfir> now, since a few years, its not allowed to call it like that anymore, as "Neger" is close to "Nigger", which I think I don't have to explain what it means.
21:45:43 <hsn> ^ thats my point .. why not anymore .. this ppl of "racism" are just gone far .. ?
21:46:25 <Ysjoelfir> I think so, yes. its just a name for a piece of confectionary. its delicious, nobody cared, even dark colored people didn't care. so why force rename that?
21:46:27 <hsn> just like "blacklist" was removed from linux .. imo its redicilious
21:47:20 <hsn> imagine u cant call master and slave in i2c?
21:47:24 <hsn> oh common !
21:48:15 <hsn> https://www.zdnet.com/google-amp/article/linux-team-approves-new-terminology-bans-terms-like-blacklist-and-slave/
21:48:55 <hsn> im racist electronics :)
21:48:58 <Ysjoelfir> we have more like that, too. We have a special variety of Schnitzel, which was called "Zigeunerschnitzel" for years. A Zigeuner is a not nice name for a special tribe of romany people. strangely enough many of those tribespeople call themselves like that. but some complained, and now its either a Schnitzel with bellpepper sauce or a Schnitzel after the style of Sinti and Roma
21:49:54 <hsn> :/
21:52:00 <Ysjoelfir> lol @ belarussian language^^
21:52:08 <Ysjoelfir> I can kind of understand the renaming of things that specifically relate to a group of people, like my two examples, at least IF there are people seriously feeling hurt by this names of a damn piece of confectionary or a Schnitzel which is actually named like that to say how great a kiss from a black person is (sweet and delicious) or how great the romany people can cook (with a ultra tasty bellpepper sauce!). but there is a place where it
21:52:08 <Ysjoelfir> goes to far. banning words like slave in a content thats totally not related to people is just... weird. its like denying that slavery ever existed
21:52:17 <Ysjoelfir> firing up machines sounds nice, too?
21:53:01 <hsn> exaaaaactly
21:53:44 <hsn> Ysjoelfir or the concept didnt even exist
21:54:12 <hsn> also blacklist .. i just never thought of it as human color skin related tbh
21:55:02 <rust_collector> well, old clatterpillars with less than perfect batteries is not that fun to get going at -35
21:55:12 <NeroTHz> I have to admit that when I heard ´master-slave´ in electronics, I actually thought of master-slave in a BDSM-relationship sense, and always got very confused how everyone didn´t find it hilarious that we had such blatend sexual references in our documentation
21:55:49 <hsn> sexist
21:56:01 <NeroTHz> that isn´t even sexist
21:56:11 <hsn> female male contacts
21:56:14 <rust_collector> I think it would be better to just take the batteries inside, and wait for spring, lol
21:56:14 <NeroTHz> no
21:56:33 <hsn> electronics is all about sex if u notice
21:56:58 <NeroTHz> a) master-slave does not require both parties to be of different sex and b) even if they are of different sex, there is no implication of which of the two sexes is which of the two roles
21:57:03 <hsn> bit banging
21:58:18 <hsn> right .. i ment pornism
21:58:22 <hsn> not sexism
21:58:25 <NeroTHz> again wrong but whatever
21:58:31 <hsn> ok :(
21:58:43 <Ysjoelfir> haha :D
21:58:49 <rust_collector> so, what is fun with the arduino? are shift registers fun?
21:59:01 <Ysjoelfir> I know what you meant, hsn, but I also don't know the english term for it^^
21:59:19 <Ysjoelfir> lol. :D
21:59:26 <Ysjoelfir> depends on your definition of fun
21:59:27 * Ampera hugs Ysjoelfir and rust_collector
21:59:29 <hsn> nero knew also but he likes to disagree with poor me
21:59:31 <hsn> xD
21:59:39 <rust_collector> hey
21:59:59 <Ysjoelfir> with a shift register you could make a simple knight rider style light with only a few pins :D
22:00:06 <Ysjoelfir> hi Ampera
22:00:17 <Ampera> hi Ysjoelfir how are you doing
22:00:19 <Ampera> and rust_collector
22:00:57 <rust_collector> Oh, you know... super-awesome. it could be worse.
22:01:32 <rust_collector> it is raining, so I do not have to do anything
22:01:43 <rust_collector> well, i do, but I won't
22:01:53 <Ysjoelfir> I think you mean "eroticization"?
22:02:34 <Ysjoelfir> :P
22:02:45 <Ysjoelfir> just crawl under the car and work from underneath
22:02:59 <rust_collector> that is the thing I have to do, yes.
22:02:59 <Ysjoelfir> I'm doing.... fine-ish. my leg hurts as hell
22:03:08 <Ysjoelfir> like? like hell i think
22:03:17 <rust_collector> yez
22:03:21 <rust_collector> why?
22:03:31 <Ysjoelfir> then do that. you'll be protected from the rain there!
22:03:35 <Ysjoelfir> why it hurts?
22:03:36 <rust_collector> did you sleep upside down?
22:03:51 <rust_collector> YESSSS!
22:03:58 <Ampera> rust_collector, that's batty
22:04:01 <Ysjoelfir> no. but I tried to get the motorcycle running yesterday for like half an hour with the kickstarter
22:04:17 <rust_collector> oh, good
22:04:22 <Ysjoelfir> before I noticed some sugar around the carburetor
22:05:01 <Ysjoelfir> or better, before i resignated. I noticed some grainy stuff just today when I pushed the bike from the mechanic to where it is now
22:05:05 <electrohead> o/
22:05:08 <Halcyon> :D
22:05:13 <Ysjoelfir> hi mr. head
22:05:21 <electrohead> hey
22:05:38 * Ampera is building
22:05:40 <Ysjoelfir> Why did I know that you appear as soon as the topic shifts to erotics? :P
22:06:04 <electrohead> hi Ampera
22:06:12 <Ampera> hi electrohead how are you
22:06:15 <hsn> because he is halcyon
22:06:20 * rust_collector is also building... buddha building
22:06:20 <electrohead> I'm alright I guess, you?
22:06:27 <Halcyon> I was tingling :P
22:06:40 <Ampera> just ready for the day to be over
22:06:51 <electrohead> already?
22:06:56 <electrohead> it just started, lol
22:06:58 <Ampera> yeah I just woke up too
22:06:59 <rust_collector> just got out of bed?
22:07:05 <rust_collector> ok
22:07:06 <NeroTHz> I think keithley now called it ´Master-submissive´ or something, which only makes it funnier
22:07:18 <Ysjoelfir> hahaha :D
22:07:20 <Ysjoelfir> guys, its like 1400!
22:07:21 * electrohead looks for hugs as well
22:07:21 <Ampera> up your game rust_collector, I'm answering your questions before you can even ask them
22:07:21 <Ysjoelfir> absolutely
22:07:29 * Ampera hugs electrohead
22:07:32 * Ysjoelfir hands electrohead a hugging machine
22:07:55 <rust_collector> sorry
22:08:30 <rust_collector> electrohead, there is a hug over there ------->
22:09:10 <electrohead> I feel stressed out and I don't know why, gah
22:09:41 <electrohead> well, I do have to go out and deal with people, that could be it, lol
22:10:03 <rust_collector> ooofff... do you REALLY have to?
22:10:11 <electrohead> yeah
22:10:13 <electrohead> >.<
22:10:15 <rust_collector> awww
22:10:15 <electrohead> :p
22:10:20 <NeroTHz> nope, my bad, it ´smaster and subordinates
22:10:43 <Ysjoelfir> which doesn't make it that much better
22:11:16 <NeroTHz> well, submissive is usually the prefered term used in BDSM communities I think, which is why I started wondering if that was like an intential play on keithleys part
22:11:28 <Ysjoelfir> yeah, I know :P
22:11:33 <Ysjoelfir> Been there, done that
22:11:35 * Ysjoelfir hides
22:12:39 <rust_collector> i like todays work. office guy just send me a text with container numbers, so I do not have to talk to anyone.
22:12:43 <Ysjoelfir> don't we all love it when we just have to restart the work PC to gain enough privileges to be allowed to install a freakin update of the software you want to use now? -.- brb
22:14:21 <rust_collector> I do not have that issue
22:16:17 <Ysjoelfir> re
22:16:23 * Ysjoelfir tries to remember to name slaves in his designs in the future a submissive device.
22:16:40 <Ysjoelfir> now to reopen all the tools I was using before I had to restart -.-
22:17:22 <electrohead> Ysjoelfir: the way it sounds, you are using windows?
22:17:36 <rust_collector> he is "special"
22:17:49 <rust_collector> I mean, yes
22:17:53 <electrohead> lol
22:17:55 <Ysjoelfir> I am, and since we remade the servers at work we don't have admin rights anymore
22:18:07 <NeroTHz> hehe
22:18:13 <electrohead> well, 'restart the PC to get something to work' immediately said windows, in my head
22:18:14 <Ysjoelfir> we = the admins and second we = the users
22:18:15 <electrohead> :p
22:18:54 <Ampera> Linux is awful, I don't even know why such communist propoganda is even legal
22:19:03 <Ampera> its creators and its users should be in prison
22:19:18 * electrohead watches Ampera imprison himself
22:19:20 <electrohead> lol
22:19:21 <rust_collector> that is probably true
22:19:29 <Ampera> quick nobody ctcp version me
22:19:59 <Ampera> >:(
22:20:14 <electrohead> hahaha
22:20:28 <electrohead> what is this magic, both bsd and linux at the same time?
22:20:30 <electrohead> :P
22:20:33 <electrohead> (still)
22:21:00 <Ysjoelfir> meanwhile DHL informed me that my package with spare parts worth roughly 500€ was "put where I directed it to be put" - which would be into my hands. where it is definitely not.
22:21:08 <Ampera> Ideally I'd only use FreeBSD, as it's nicer than Linux in a few ways, but it just doesn't support the software I need it to
22:21:44 <electrohead> Ysjoelfir: was it delivered?
22:21:48 <Ysjoelfir> fascinating, my CTCP version is... not very correct.
22:21:58 <Ysjoelfir> mr head - according to DHL it was.
22:22:17 <Ampera> Revolution IRC is what I used before I used WeeChat Android
22:22:39 <Ysjoelfir> but I don't have it here in my hands at work, and my soon to be wife isn't home either, so it can't be there, too. so.... where is it?
22:22:42 <Ampera> Neither of them work that well, but WeeChat can load a full backlog immediately from a weechat session on my server
22:23:09 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, have you washed your hands recently? It might have fallen down the drain
22:23:14 <rust_collector> maybe that guy that lives in your apartment while you people are at work signed for it?
22:23:16 <electrohead> so it's probably sitting on your porch, then?
22:23:52 <Ampera> electrohead, Ysjoelfir is german, he has a porsche not a porch.
22:23:58 <electrohead> lol
22:24:17 <Ysjoelfir> I think its exactly what mr head says. which means by the time I'll be home those will be a) soaked from the rain, and b) gone
22:24:46 <electrohead> soaked from the rain? well, I hope you don't have any electronics in your package =\
22:25:19 <electrohead> heh, I had that happen once, fucking UPS dropped a package off, *right before* it started pouring down rain
22:25:21 <Ampera> he just said he did
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22:26:01 <electrohead> he said spare parts, could be anything
22:26:14 <rust_collector> arms, legs...
22:26:19 <electrohead> :p
22:26:24 <electrohead> you know what I mean, lol
22:26:31 <Ampera> rust_collector, if he wanted body parts I could have sent him some
22:26:39 <Ampera> I have loads in the freezers downstairs
22:26:58 <electrohead> Ampera: stop mentioning that, no one is supposed to know
22:27:05 <Ampera> why not
22:27:06 * electrohead halts all deliveries to Ampera's house
22:27:15 <Ampera> ???
22:27:16 <rust_collector> well, maybe, if he knew, he would not order it?
22:27:23 <Ampera> I have no clue what you're talking about
22:27:26 <electrohead> was going along with it :p
22:27:32 <Ampera> along with what
22:27:36 <Ampera> it wasn't a joke
22:27:44 <electrohead> oh, I mean
22:27:56 <electrohead> yeah, all part of 'the plan'
22:27:58 <electrohead> xD
22:28:03 <Ampera> ...
22:28:11 * electrohead hides the bodies
22:28:16 <rust_collector> OH NO!!! the agressive .
22:28:36 <Guest|85240> Hi channel, can we talk scopes?
22:28:42 <electrohead> LOL
22:28:52 <electrohead> hey Guest|85240, welcome to ze' channel
22:29:07 <rust_collector> scopes look cool
22:29:14 <electrohead> as you can see, it gets interesting in here
22:29:24 <Ampera> the scope for my rifle sucks
22:29:31 <Ampera> guess that's what I get for spending 15 bucks on optics
22:30:41 <Guest|85240> Hi all. Just to let you know, after hunting around I came across a a Rhode and Schwarz RTB2004 Bundle, fully kitted out, DSO all software decoders etc, + digital leads etc. Got delivered last week.
22:30:45 <Guest|85240> https://uk.farnell.com/rohde-schwarz/rtb2k-com4-bundle-rtb2004-b243-b1-pk1/rtb2004-complete-bundle-300-mhz/dp/2723153?st=rtb2004
22:30:54 <Guest|85240> 300MHz
22:31:12 <Guest|85240> With all the bells and whistles, not seen an offer like this in years.
22:31:17 <Guest|85240> UK Farnell
22:31:48 <rust_collector> that looks nice
22:32:03 <electrohead> oooo
22:32:09 <Guest|85240> Thought you all may be interested, for £2784, you get kit that is over £5k when bought separately.
22:32:11 <Ampera> 2.8k gbp
22:32:23 <Ampera> I could buy a nice garand for that much
22:32:47 <Guest|85240> You're not going to get a better deal for a mid range DSO imo
22:33:04 <rust_collector> I paid... £45 or so for my scope. it is not exactly the same specs as that one
22:34:14 <Guest|85240> Yeah, this one comes with a full wave func.gen and really, really good memory. Shout out to the guy that mentioned the R&S Here! Thank you so much!
22:34:27 <electrohead> like a lot of people did, I picked up the Rigol DS1054Z and unlocked all of the features
22:34:35 <Guest|85240> lol
22:34:38 <Ampera> Guest|85240, so you're shouting out yourself?
22:35:09 <Ampera> something smells like bot
22:35:18 <Guest|85240> lol - no 2 weeks back we had a R&S Fanboy here, I was suspicious at first, but turned out really great advice!
22:35:40 <NeroTHz> wait was I that fanboy
22:35:51 <Guest|85240> I think so buddy!
22:35:54 <NeroTHz> I <3 R&S gear but I know fuckall bout their entry level gear
22:37:51 <Guest|85240> Thanks Nero...early days, but yeah, I'm beginning to love their gear...solid as hell.
22:38:18 <NeroTHz> Ampera, I figure you might be right, but I´m not sure
22:38:44 <Ampera> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
22:39:11 <Ampera> at least it's not the weirdo who keeps coming in with usernames of world despots.
22:39:47 <rust_collector> for being a rebranded hantek, I think r&s do ok. at least they do some qc before they ship things
22:39:51 <Ampera> I'm tempted to buy a Valve Index, but the thing ships in 8 weeks
22:40:11 <Ampera> although...
22:40:40 <Ampera> it would be here in time for christmas by a decent margin
22:40:48 <Ampera> so I could give my brother my old vive
22:41:05 <rust_collector> valve index?
22:41:06 <Ampera> meh I'll wait a bit longer
22:41:07 <Ampera> yeah
22:41:07 Quit: Guest|85240 ([email protected]) Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client
22:41:15 <Ampera> their new high end VR headset
22:41:19 <coppice> Guest|85240: amusingly they also list https://uk.farnell.com/rohde-schwarz/rtb2004-rtb-b243-rtb-b1-rtb2k-304m/digital-storage-osc-300mhz-4-ch/dp/2723122?MER=sy-me-pd-mi-alte&st=rtb2004
22:41:20 <rust_collector> oh
22:41:52 <Ampera> it's 750 bucks if I use my original tracking stations, but if I want to give those to my brother I have to buy the new ones
22:42:02 <Ampera> so it's a grand + tax
22:42:45 <rust_collector> that is the sort of thing I would never buy, but ok.
22:43:08 <rust_collector> it is probably a cool device
22:43:51 <Ampera> aye, I love my vive, but I really want something better than it
22:44:13 <Ampera> I'll mull it over for a few days
22:45:34 <rust_collector> hmm, can you hook those up to a map, like google street view?
22:45:45 <Ampera> Yes actually
22:45:49 <Ampera> and I've done it, it's really neat
22:45:49 <rust_collector> cool
22:53:31 <hsn> oh yeah https://www.instagram.com/p/CEYvwr0AljD/?igshid=5dpgslpkwg6t
22:53:56 <hsn> https://www.instagram.com/p/CEQ4oYLA8Ov/?igshid=l2b0p3vwxgpr
22:54:37 <hsn> wtf is this ^
23:01:01 <Ysjoelfir> a Carmel
23:01:12 <hsn> the second one i ment
23:01:43 <Ysjoelfir> a freakishly big spare tire :D
23:02:23 <hsn> the car is mule
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23:10:57 <Ysjoelfir> Hibye Halcyon with and without tail
23:12:12 <K> that is tail?
23:12:58 <Ysjoelfir> maybe its a penis? or... his low hanging arm?
23:15:59 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/pcb-layout/Design-Single-Board-Computer-SBC/proposals T3sl4, you complained about the template proposals. take a look at the first one from Michael G.... My eyes are bleeding
23:17:37 <rust_collector> both of those makes sense in his case
23:18:44 <T3sl4> is there even a scripting language that replaces underscore with space?
23:19:17 <hsn> i dont see it
23:19:31 <hsn> https://photos.app.goo.gl/xv1SZLgck6j5MdEQA
23:19:35 <T3sl4> it says a232004
23:20:14 <T3sl4> i don't know where you would even be writing with underscore, except for archaic namespaces that can't understand quotation marks
23:20:47 <Ysjoelfir> xD
23:20:59 <Ysjoelfir> I noticed several of his proposals, all the same. no idea what that is supposed to be
23:21:11 <T3sl4> which leads to the amusing filenames like "1234-0001_CUSTOMER_DOOWHACKEY_Sheet 01 Main_REV01A"
23:21:34 <hsn> is that ,, to make it harder jobs on bots?
23:21:53 <hsn> job*
23:21:56 <rust_collector> probably not
23:23:14 <hsn> word count: 1
23:23:22 <hsn> :D
23:26:49 <hsn> https://youtu.be/vC1GTBm4ehQ
23:27:02 <hsn> math prof be like ^
23:28:15 <hsn> lol wide putin https://youtu.be/Wl959QnD3lM
23:28:35 <hsn> ppl are strange ^ tim said..
23:28:56 <Ysjoelfir> lol
23:30:14 <T3sl4> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt5rcwPkgd8
23:40:49 <electrohead> does anyone want to go food shopping for me? >.<
23:42:09 <Ysjoelfir> nope.
23:42:14 <Ysjoelfir> do you want to cook for me?
23:44:43 <rust_collector> I do. you should be here in about 4 minutes...
23:47:20 <Ysjoelfir> do you make Römmegröt?
23:47:28 <rust_collector> no, it is safe
23:48:55 <Ysjoelfir> :P
23:52:25 <rust_collector> so, what do you want....on your next....uhm... business trip?
23:53:47 <rust_collector> https://imgur.com/gTvxqAU.png ok, maybe it has been a while since I did anything web related
23:54:02 <electrohead> lol
23:54:16 <electrohead> Ysjoelfir: once I get some energy, sure, I can come cook :p
23:54:35 * Ysjoelfir hands mr. Head some Monster Energy
23:54:39 <rust_collector> you need a lot of energy, it is a long swim
23:54:48 <Ysjoelfir> lol
23:54:50 <Ysjoelfir> rusty - thats a good question. :D any suggestions?
23:54:55 <rust_collector> if you support me on patreon or thru paypal, you can make sure it is even longer until next time
23:55:05 * Ysjoelfir loads electrohead with a lot of Monster Energy
23:55:29 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nm3XD1dgy5A
23:55:43 <rust_collector> yeh
23:55:55 <electrohead> just the coffee java energy things, that's the most I will do
23:56:24 <electrohead> used to drink monster energy, but, I get too wired anymore from those
23:56:42 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir prints a new label
23:56:54 <rust_collector> "just coffee"
23:57:37 <electrohead> :P
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