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00:07:23 <DHess_US> Click the gauntlet, https://www.google.com/search?q=Thanos
00:12:12 <K> yes.
00:13:54 <Ampera> DHess_US, I want to ruin your day: https://www.reddit.com/r/thanksihateit/comments/bg3atk/thanks_i_hate_owl_now/
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00:59:37 <mathyou> heyyy
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01:13:31 <K> yes.
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01:34:35 <Nothing\> <witty greeting not found>
01:42:47 <K> yes.
01:50:42 <Nothing\> heh i figured out, i really DID get a chemical burn from opening that vinegar yesterday
01:51:07 <Nothing\> i figure some of the acetic acid must have evaporated and concentrated on the foil when i pulled it off, but i thought i just imagined it
01:51:18 <Nothing\> but sure enough, i have a mark on my finger where it happened that looks exactly like a burn
01:52:32 <Nothing\> luckily i was right next to the sink so i could wash it off immediately, but it makes me think of that nilered video where he's demonstrating how overstated the risk of acids on bare skin is by pouring hcl, nitric and sulphuric acid on my bare skin and he had a few seconds at least before there was any pain, but with me it was immediate
01:53:04 <Nothing\> er, he poured it on HIS bare skin, not mine i think it would be a bit hard for him to pour it on my skin
02:04:11 <Nothing\> wow, there are rumours that the ps5 is scheduled to launch next holiday season, seems the ps4 hasn't been out that long
02:04:41 <Nothing\> reminds me of those commercials back in the 90's where it was supposed to be a future ad for the playstation 9, they weren't far off in thinking they'd last up to 9 iterations
02:05:10 <K> dirty console peasants
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02:23:24 <T3sl4> Nothing\: sure you didn't get sliced (papercut kinda) from the packaging?
02:33:06 <Nothing\> T3sl4: positive, it's not a cut on my finger definitely a burn
02:33:17 <Nothing\> the skin's all raised up like a first degree burn
02:34:09 <Nothing\> either way i'm trying to recreate the incident to be sure, so i put a glass on top of a container of vinegar and a bit of alcohol in the glass to evaporate and cool it so i can try to condense some vapors on the underside and then well, touch the condensate and see if the same thing happens
02:37:22 <T3sl4> weird
02:37:26 <Nothing\> i thought it mighta been cuz that part of my finger's where i prick myself to check my blood sugar, but i haven't checked it in over a week so there shouldn't be any open wounds
02:37:57 <T3sl4> i doubt distillation is the answer; acetic acid is notoriously difficult to concentrate, its BP isn't much higher and its affinity for water is strong
02:38:14 <Nothing\> yeah and i noticed the vapor pressure is the same as water's
02:38:35 <Nothing\> that's why this confused me so much, on the whole it doesn't make any sense
02:38:52 <Nothing\> i tried to find any literature about it to no avail
02:39:07 <T3sl4> seems more plausible that it was simply hot, and you somehow didn't notice, or that it was an allergic reaction
02:39:28 <Nothing\> although i did find a rather disturbing paper about various incidents where pharmacists dispensed glacial acetic acid for medical procedures requiring vinegar because they didn't know what glacial meant
02:39:36 <T3sl4> :O
02:39:40 <Nothing\> why a pharmacy would need glacial acetic acid is beyond me
02:40:14 <Nothing\> in the one case they used it for cervical colposcopy, which i'm not sure what that is but it said the patient had rectal burns D:
02:41:23 <Nothing\> from the sounds of it, it sounded like the pharmacy accidentally ordered glacial acetic acid from the supplier when they meant to get 5% as vinegar
02:41:46 <T3sl4> modern medicine can do some pretty amazing things, but it can screw up in equally amazing ways
02:41:54 <Nothing\> oh i know, it's scary
02:42:14 <Nothing\> you hear about that woman in russia who had formalin put in her IV drip accidentally
02:42:26 <Nothing\> happened maybe a year ago or so
02:42:32 <T3sl4> :S
02:42:48 <Nothing\> i dunno why an emergency medicine department would have formalin in bags suitable for IV
02:42:56 <Nothing\> tbh the story sounded suspicious to me
02:43:07 <Nothing\> but a lot of fairly credible sources reported on it
02:44:06 <Nothing\> or i've heard cases where improperly trained radiologists exposed patients to massive doses of radiation from improperly set up CT scanners
02:44:25 <Nothing\> CT scanners expose you to a pretty large dose of radiation as it is
02:46:16 <T3sl4> or gamma ray knife
02:46:16 <Nothing\> what's the term for when an object appears smaller as it gets further away? i thought maybe parallax but it's not that
02:46:28 <T3sl4> perspective
02:46:31 <Nothing\> i've heard of gamma ray knives but never really looked into what they are
02:46:34 <T3sl4> foreshortening more specifically?
02:46:41 <Nothing\> foreshortening, that might be it
02:46:53 <Nothing\> i wanna look up the maths for it but i wasn't sure what to look up
02:47:42 <Nothing\> hrm foreshortening seems to refer specifically to art, but i'm getting closer
02:47:47 <T3sl4> perspective projection is just xs = x/z, ys = y/z
02:48:08 <Nothing\> oh lol and here i was trying to work it out with trig
02:48:19 <Nothing\> i alway like to try and figure something out first before i actually look up how it works
02:48:38 <T3sl4> spoilers :P:
02:49:53 <Nothing\> lol
02:53:21 <Nothing\> weird, the squirrels outside seem to prefer peanuts in their shells over ones that aren't in their shells
02:53:32 <T3sl4> squirrels are nuts
02:53:45 <Nothing\> if ever there was a creature that was inherently OCD, truly it is squirrels
02:54:14 <Nothing\> lol it's funny watching them try to stuff 3 peanuts in their mouths
02:55:07 <DHess_US> i've used glacial acetic acid in a lab setting. I don't know if it was any more dangerous than concentrated sulphuric acid but both had plenty of warnings.
02:55:30 <DHess_US> Glacial acetic acid works well for removing labels and label residue.
02:55:40 <Nothing\> DHess_US: i would think sulphuric acid would be more dangerous just cuz it actually reacts with your skin as well as causing heating
02:55:53 <Nothing\> i don't think acetic acid actually reacts with anything in your skin
02:56:18 <Nothing\> actually i'm not even exactly sure how acid burns work, whether it's a purely thermal process, or if there's always some sort of reaction
02:56:41 <Nothing\> i know some acids like nitric are more damaging because they're oxidizers too
02:56:59 <Nothing\> in the case of nitric it reacts with keratin in your skin
02:57:24 <Nothing\> but in the nilered video, all that amounted to was turning his skin yellow
02:57:58 <Nothing\> incidentally, it's scary how RFNA reacts with gloves
02:58:23 <DHess_US> nitric acid is safe compared to sulphuric or glacial acedic acid.
02:59:08 <Nothing\> i dunno about that, cuz nitric gives off toxic no2 vapors, but the sulphuric and acetic don't
02:59:17 <Nothing\> but in terms of skin contact, i could see that
02:59:18 <DHess_US> sulphuric and glacial acetic have such a strong affinity for water that they will put it out of hydrocarbons leaving ... carbon.
02:59:33 <Nothing\> i didn't know acetic acid dehydrated like that too
02:59:53 <DHess_US> I know. I dumped a flask full of concetrated nitric acid down my leg.
03:00:02 <Nothing\> i knew that about sulphuric, it's a classic demonstration to react sulphuric acid with sugar to leave a pillar of carbon
03:00:33 <Nothing\> DHess_US: yeah on the nilered video he had a few seconds after pouring rfna on his bare skin before it even hurt
03:00:38 <DHess_US> If you get enough of it, then it does more than just turn your skin yellow.
03:00:45 <Nothing\> by concentrated, do you mean rfna, or just 68%?
03:00:55 <DHess_US> "concentrated" means 68%
03:00:59 <Nothing\> gotcha
03:01:37 <Nothing\> i'd love to get into chemistry more hands on, but i wouldn't trust myself with dangerous chemicals
03:01:46 <Nothing\> i scarcely trust myself with mains current
03:03:04 <Nothing\> hell i'd love to have any sort of lab experience
03:03:27 <Nothing\> that's the one big reason i regret dropping out of highschool, all of the experiences i missed out on
03:05:08 <Nothing\> i was too young and impudent to appreciate such experiences anyways
03:09:36 <Nothing\> huh this is an interesting way to make a circuit, this guy's got a big sheet of copper for all of the common connections and then just uses point to point for everything else
03:09:50 <Nothing\> i guess that's sorta what they do in a PCB
03:10:13 <Nothing\> http://i.imgur.com/XeJstmN.jpg
03:10:35 <T3sl4> dead bug, yeah
03:10:36 <DHess_US> Dead bug style
03:11:12 <T3sl4> i go one better and solder pads (chits of copper clad) onto the substrate, or cut pads into it directly
03:11:59 <T3sl4> fewer nodes wobbling in space, and lower inductance (potentially)
03:12:56 <Nothing\> like, mounting the copper pads on the copper plane?
03:13:10 <Nothing\> heh i can see why they call it dead bug though
03:13:28 <DHess_US> Some of use take it to an extreme, https://i.ibb.co/cNyGyR9/IMG-0317-1620.jpg
03:13:32 <Nothing\> i was thinking the other day i should make a little bug figure out of a dip-8 package
03:13:42 <Nothing\> use a ceramic cap for the head
03:13:46 <Nothing\> something like that
03:14:21 <Nothing\> oh wow, that's a bit of a jumble DHess_US lol
03:14:26 <Nothing\> i've seen worse though
03:14:39 <Nothing\> actually i was thinking you kept it surprisingly tidy given the conditions
03:14:52 <Nothing\> except maybe that mess under the battery lol
03:15:23 <Nothing\> why is there a wire from those 3 button cells just attached to the case of the battery
03:15:36 <Nothing\> it looks like it's soldered right onto the label
03:16:04 <DHess_US> The steel battery case is soldred to the board also.
03:16:16 <DHess_US> to hold the battery in place.
03:16:35 <Nothing\> ah
03:21:27 <DHess_US> Changing the battery requires sandpaper and a soldering iron.
03:22:06 <T3sl4> seems a little inconvenient
03:22:18 <T3sl4> i suppose when you don't have any NiMH 9Vs on hand
03:23:04 <DHess_US> The battery lasts years.
03:24:17 <DHess_US> Although operating time is about ... 20 hours.
03:24:57 <T3sl4> ah
03:25:10 <T3sl4> here's a recent example at a bit higher density: https://www.seventransistorlabs.com/Images/DCDC_800V.jpg
03:26:00 <Nothing\> DHess_US: why not use pigtail connectors?
03:26:11 <Nothing\> er i guess that doesn't stop the battery flapping around in the breeze
03:26:26 <Nothing\> maybe fashion some sort of a holder from insulated wire?
03:26:39 <Nothing\> or tape lol
03:26:41 <DHess_US> battery still needs to be attached. And the width was such that a connector would not fit on the end anyway. The 9V was just barely short enough to fit that way.
03:27:38 <DHess_US> If I built it again, I would mount the ICs in a different way.
03:29:46 <DHess_US> Something like this although there are a couple points that needed to be wired in air in that circuit to reduce leakage. https://www.qsl.net/w0pwe/HB/IC_Pads.html
03:29:58 <DHess_US> Like the top of that bright red capacitor.
03:30:31 <DHess_US> Even wiring it through the socket (inverting input) limited performance.
03:30:37 <T3sl4> yeah, i do that (as you may or may not be able to see in the photo)
03:30:41 <DHess_US> I should have pulled that poin out.
03:31:14 <DHess_US> Leakage at that point needs to be significantly below 10 picoamps.
03:32:27 <Nothing\> you weren't kidding when you said it was higher density yeesh
03:32:28 <Nothing\> lol
03:33:16 <Nothing\> i dunno how anyone can keep track of what they're doing with super dense boards like that, i get confused enough just making digital stuff on a breadboard, especially if i step away from it and come back later and try to figure out just what the heck i was doing
03:34:00 <T3sl4> well, i put down the things i need, in about the places i need them, assuming enough space to fit in everything around it
03:34:12 <T3sl4> then i put in the low level connections, in this case the power switching path
03:34:41 <T3sl4> then i put in all the support components, R/C/D/etc, which it turns out there isn't enough space so it grows up instead ;)
03:36:59 <Nothing\> lol just like a city
03:37:06 <T3sl4> yup
03:37:37 <T3sl4> nice part about that module, the flat capacitors on the end have the up-to-+800V on the exposed connections ;)
03:37:47 <Nothing\> lovely
03:38:09 <Nothing\> heh i always heard stories of people in school charging a cap to 400v and then tossing it to their lab partner
03:38:26 <Nothing\> i can't help but feel the dangers of high voltage caps are a bit overstated, especially since it's DC
03:39:09 <T3sl4> if it's smaller, like 0.22uF or so, it's not so deadly
03:39:13 <rust_collector> you should design an ac cap, to make it more fun
03:39:33 <Nothing\> lol now that's a head scratcher, an ac cap
03:39:40 <Nothing\> is that like a cap that generates ac as it discharges
03:39:46 <rust_collector> yep
03:39:49 <T3sl4> more than that, and it's basically like grabbing the power line, for which DC is worse than AC, so...
03:39:59 <Nothing\> T3sl4: i woulda figured higher voltage would make it more dangerous since the energy increases with the square of the voltage
03:40:33 <T3sl4> an "AC capacitor" is physically possible, but you'll need superconductors to get an inductor good enough to keep it ringing for more than a few seconds
03:40:45 <Nothing\> well AC is more deadly because it can disrupt your heart rhythm, but DC destroys tissue through joule heating more than AC does
03:41:11 <T3sl4> DC makes you grab things, although that doesn't matter as much with throwable sized capacitors i would think
03:41:29 <rust_collector> both will make you wake up
03:41:43 <T3sl4> better than a cup of coffee, if not as long lasting
03:41:46 <T3sl4> :P
03:41:58 <Nothing\> T3sl4: lol when i first got into electronics, circuitmod has a default example with an RLC circuit so naturally i wanted to try making my own RLC circuit, but one that rings at a low enough frequency that i could see it, so like 10-20hz, didn't realize how big an inductor i woulda needed for that
03:42:28 <T3sl4> yeah
03:42:39 <Nothing\> i didn't realize just how big a 10 henry inductor would be in real life
03:43:03 <T3sl4> you need a microwave oven sized transformer to get useful Q at those kinds of values and frequencies
03:43:15 <T3sl4> note i didn't say microwave oven transformer sized, i said microwave oven sized ;)
03:43:27 <Nothing\> oh shit i just remembered there was a microwave on the curb down the street i meant to grab before the garbage trucks came by, dang
03:43:39 <T3sl4> heh
03:43:45 <Nothing\> oh well i've got 2 derelict microwaves already, i don't think my mom wants me grabbing anymore
03:44:01 <Nothing\> lol yeah it's crazy how big transformers come, i wasn't expecting that
03:44:07 <T3sl4> i'm sure someone came by to pick it up, white goods go quickly on trash day
03:44:10 <T3sl4> easy scrap
03:44:21 <Nothing\> yeah especially in a low income city like this
03:44:40 <Nothing\> it's the sorta place people would tear up abandoned buildings for copper
03:45:18 <Nothing\> i don't even know what i'd do with a microwave, don't really have any use for the transformer
03:45:30 <Nothing\> and as i understand, those transformers aren't great for mains
03:45:36 <Nothing\> or maybe i'm thinking of flybacks
03:46:02 <T3sl4> the transformers are a bit rough, yes
03:46:15 <T3sl4> you want to knock out the shunts and add maybe 10-20% turns to the primary
03:46:57 <Nothing\> i got these little ferrite rings out of a scanner, i was thinking i should use one to make a little transformer for a joule thief or something
03:47:21 <Nothing\> i didn't realize they had shunts on microwave transormers though
03:48:08 <Nothing\> aww poor squirrel doesn't have any nuts outside so he's digging around in the grass like a jonesing crackhead looking for his stash
04:05:22 <Nothing\> man i hate instructables
04:05:27 <Nothing\> or anything like it
04:07:20 <rust_collector> I hate health and safety stuff at work
04:09:03 <steve30> is collecting rust dangerous now?
04:10:13 <rust_collector> not sure, but I have a second job, that is pretty safe, but we still have to deal with some special people
04:11:49 <rust_collector> well, it is ok. when you see people wearing a helmet and hi-vis in the office, try to get away
04:12:19 <Nothing\> i suspect people who dress like that may be a soccer
04:13:17 <Nothing\> well i think this vinegar thing should be ready, i guess i'll put some on my skin and see if it burns me lol, brilliant analytical technique if i may say so myself
04:13:17 <steve30> hmm, my chinesium has been shipped with Yodel
04:14:44 <Nothing\> huh, no reaction
04:15:51 <rust_collector> what are you trying with vinegar?
04:17:17 <Nothing\> well yesterday when i opened a fresh bottle of vinegar i touched the inside of the foil and swear i got a chemical burn, it burned immediately and left a raissed by on my skin just like a mild burn, i was thinking maybe some acetic acid evaporated out of the vinegar and condensed on the inside of the foil in a more concentrated form so i was trying to recreate it by putting a glass over an open container of vinegar to try
04:17:17 <Nothing\> t and then touch it to see if the same thing happens
04:17:25 <Nothing\> but nothing happened
04:18:00 <Nothing\> it seemed far fetched to me anyways
04:18:04 <rust_collector> try again, with the foil
04:18:22 <Nothing\> the foil shouldn't matter, it wasn't even really foil it was just foil coated in plastic
04:18:32 <rust_collector> well, your way does not work
04:18:36 <Nothing\> it shouldn't react with aluminium anyways cuz of the passivation layer
04:18:55 <Nothing\> well i figure it doesn't work cuz i probably imagined the whole thing lol or something else happened i dunno
04:19:23 <Nothing\> there are reports of people being burned from vinegar, but they purposely applied it to their skin and covered the area which makse it a lot worse
04:19:47 <Nothing\> apparently a popular internet treatment for moles is to put vinegar on them and cover it, but all it does is cause chemical burns and more discoloration lol
04:21:53 <rust_collector> maybe that is why they throw acid in peoples faces in india...
05:06:23 <T3sl4> oh cool, there's a whole bunch of honeybees around the lilac bush outside
05:07:00 <T3sl4> i wonder if they're swarming, but they must not be the main part because there's a fair number of them, but not a fuckoff massive pile of them
05:07:34 <T3sl4> seems strange that they're attracted to said bush, as it's just budding, doesn't look like it would have much nectar right now
05:10:55 <Nothing\> rust_collector: i thought it was more arabic countries, where it was done
05:12:11 <rust_collector> I have no idea, but I hear about it a lot on the radio, from india.
05:13:15 <rust_collector> well, not so much now, but I think it was a big thing last summer
05:14:43 <Nothing\> yeah i dunno i've heard of it but don't recall where but it sounds like a sharia type thing
05:15:52 <Nothing\> speaking of which, i heard about a guy who was surgically paralyzed under sharia law because he stabbed somebody, it got infected and the guy became paralyzed, so after he served a 10 year sentence they decided he should be paralyzed as an eye for an eye sorta thing
05:16:05 <Nothing\> actually i dunno whether they actually did it or if they were just talking about doing it
05:16:50 <Nothing\> i dunno how countries can get away with doing stuff like that to their own people when the geneva convention makes them treat POWs better than that, ideally anyways
05:17:14 <rust_collector> maybe they didn't go to geneva?
05:18:08 <rust_collector> well, in some ways it makes sense. some people needs a good beating.
05:18:24 <T3sl4> who's going to enforce it?
05:18:56 <T3sl4> most people think law is absolute, even despite the flagrant violations and passes shown in the media
05:19:09 <T3sl4> fact is, it's absolute for those who have no power over it, i.e., the common man
05:19:21 <Nothing\> T3sl4: well that's why i said ideally
05:19:25 <T3sl4> if you have a few billion to throw around, you'll get a red carpet everywhere
05:19:37 <T3sl4> at scale, law is just politics
05:19:39 <Nothing\> we all know if a country wants to, there's nothing stopping them from breaking the geneva convention
05:19:45 <Nothing\> just look at north korea
05:19:49 <T3sl4> including international politics with treaties
05:20:12 <Nothing\> hell north korea's even blatantly broken the armistice treaty with south korea on many occasions
05:20:57 <Nothing\> there are a ton of incidents of them crossing the DMZ or committing other acts of aggression listed on wikipedia
05:21:43 <Nothing\> heh i was thinking the other day, if the koreas are ever united they're gonna have a hell of a job cleaning up the land mines on the boarder
05:27:14 <rust_collector> lots of places that has that problem. at least the koreas can assume the mines are close to the border, not all over
05:31:07 <rust_collector> I think it is interesting how many bombs and stuff that we keep finding, that has been there since ww2, with no one knowing they are there. and that is up here in norway, where they did relatively little of that stuff
05:32:12 <rust_collector> I also think it is interesting that the bombs were that unreliable, if that is the correct word, for something that does not explode, lol
05:36:23 <T3sl4> lowest bidder and all that
06:01:15 <Nothing\> yeah rust_collector i watch a lot of history guy videos and i've noticed in a lot of the stories of battles from WWII and like that it was pretty common for bombs dropped by planes to be duds
06:01:48 <Nothing\> in the one, i forget exactly what battle it was but there were at least 2 or 3 duds dropped in a row but multiple planes
06:02:04 <Nothing\> *by multiple planes
06:03:06 <Nothing\> wow, TI has a ton of op amp circuits in the applications section for the lm358's datasheet
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07:58:50 <Ampera> I put some pepper in tomato sauce I used to make pasta and sauce
07:58:53 <Ampera> and my dad told me it was spicy
07:59:06 <Ampera> now how the fuck is a few dashes of pepper in a sauce spicy
08:03:51 <T3sl4> whelp... digikey sent me a leadless diode, not the SOT363 i ordered :|
08:04:11 <Ampera> T3sl4, I want to ruin your day: https://www.reddit.com/r/thanksihateit/comments/bg3atk/thanks_i_hate_owl_now/
08:04:34 <T3sl4> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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08:33:23 <DHess_US> https://i.imgur.com/RDlstJn.gifv
08:48:21 <DHess_US> https://i.imgur.com/KnwZQ6B.jpg
09:10:21 <Halcyon> Mew
09:16:18 <Halcyon> Mmm coffee
09:26:33 <Ampera> hi Halcyon
09:32:23 <Halcyon> Hey Ampera
09:32:24 <Halcyon> :)
09:32:41 <Ampera> :)
09:32:50 <Ampera> immabout to crash and burn
09:32:55 <Halcyon> Sleepy time/
09:32:56 <Halcyon> ?
09:33:38 <DHess_US> Sleep is for the weak.
09:34:37 <Ampera> DHess_US, WE WILL NEVER REST
09:35:49 <DHess_US> Had Chik-Fil-A today. They said nothing about pickels. I hate pickels.
09:36:47 <Ampera> DHess_US, Halcyon loves pickles.
09:37:20 <Halcyon> I do
09:40:04 <Ampera> the bigger and juicier the better
09:40:49 <DHess_US> Good, more for you. I'll send them to you next time.
09:47:18 * Halcyon noms on Ampera's pickle
09:47:32 * Ampera feels nothing
09:47:35 * Ampera thinks nothing
09:47:37 * Ampera is dead inside
09:47:48 <Halcyon> Go to bed already
09:53:11 <T3sl4> hi Halcyon
09:53:53 <Halcyon> Hey T3sl4
09:53:59 * Halcyon offers T3sl4 some love too
09:54:33 <T3sl4> aw
09:54:58 * T3sl4 is doing hand SMT placement
09:55:31 <Halcyon> Oh that's always fun. Mine always swim around in the solder
09:56:40 <T3sl4> i'm doing paste reflow, which went alright on the first side
10:16:19 <Bluenote> Anybody found anything commonplace that works pretty well for shimming parts when soldering?
10:18:17 <Bluenote> Want a bit of standoff from some LEDs so I can fine tune where they're pointing with a bit of bending, can't really think of anything offhand that won't get unhappy about heat or risk being wetted by the solder.
10:18:49 <T3sl4> you want water soluble spacers
10:19:28 <Bluenote> Yeah, but this isn't some big production thing. It's about 2 dozen LEDs total.
10:19:48 <T3sl4> :D
10:20:01 <T3sl4> then hold them by hand
10:20:06 <T3sl4> it's not gonna cost ya any more :P
10:20:26 <Bluenote> Oh man, you are _so wrong_ about that. I'm a clumsy oaf.
10:20:57 <Bluenote> Hm. Hhhmmm.
10:21:02 <T3sl4> have you considered burger flipping? oh..
10:21:04 <T3sl4> j/k
10:21:20 <Bluenote> I would, but I'm underqualified. That's why I'm IT.
10:22:04 <Bluenote> I may try some Kapton tape stuck to a bit of beer can.
10:23:26 <Bluenote> If it works, great. If it doesn't, I'll have at least given myself an excuse to have a beer.
10:52:54 <Stiff> you dont need an excuse to have a beer Bluenote
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12:38:31 <Guest|10314> I need someone to program pic16c54 chips for me. I have the ascembly and hex code.
12:38:45 <Guest|10314> can someone do this?
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14:36:59 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: RT @Chris_Gammell: Big news! Wayne will be working on @kicad_pcb full time! #KICon2019 https://t.co/8mYG2IcyYz
14:43:02 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Tentative prediction with no time frame: Someone (or an already big company) will take open source @kicad_pcb and commercialise it somehow, à la Red Hat. Discuss.
14:46:03 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: @kicad_pcb Remember, the PCB tool market is a circa $1BN industry
16:22:42 <T3sl4> ugh, so much assembly
16:22:50 <T3sl4> just a few THTs left tho
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16:57:24 <Halcyon> T3sl4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbX7VLpFolU
16:57:56 * T3sl4 scritches Halcyon
16:58:05 * Halcyon bites the hand of T3sl4
16:58:16 <T3sl4> D:
16:58:21 <Halcyon> :P
17:41:37 * DogWomble makes a reference to biting the hand that feeds you
17:42:01 <Halcyon> Om nom nom
17:56:27 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: I'll throw this #KiCad grenade into #KiCon2019 https://t.co/KxguWUvuPJ
18:01:15 <Halcyon> Aww cute https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KfhTw_GJQ4
18:01:20 <Halcyon> The duck likes going shopping
19:07:22 <steve30> hi Halcyon
19:07:26 <Halcyon> Heya
19:08:57 <steve30> I woke up earlier, but went back to bed for a few hours :). I feel better for it.
19:09:07 <Halcyon> Nice :)
19:10:00 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: NEW EEVblog Video! eevBLAB #62 - PCB Wars - The Rise Of KiCAD https://t.co/7eLWzMxJtI
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19:28:17 <steve30> cool shorts
19:28:19 <steve30> https://www.latex101.com/shop/textured-latex-shorts
19:46:53 <Halcyon> I want to see you in them :P
19:52:18 <soulreap> hii
20:18:20 <Halcyon> Holy crap those beans look good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XunzW9FU3oc
20:20:25 <soulreap> hi Halcyon
20:22:37 * steve30 returns from the shops with a tasty sausage roll
20:22:56 <soulreap> ooh i liek them
20:23:03 <soulreap> with sauce
20:44:21 <steve30> that was yummy.
20:44:25 <steve30> time for coffee now
20:49:42 <Halcyon> Hey soulreap
20:50:08 <soulreap> hii
20:57:16 * steve30 curls up on Halcyon's lap
20:57:22 <Halcyon> Nawww :P
21:02:35 <soulreap> i got electric keybord
21:02:41 <soulreap> for $30
21:02:55 <soulreap> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/6XnPGaL5/2019-04-27+16.17.43.jpg
21:03:10 <soulreap> it alll works too :)
21:03:36 <steve30> cool
21:04:10 <Halcyon> Oh nice
21:04:41 <soulreap> i played with it forr hours :)
21:04:47 <soulreap> i cleand it
21:04:57 <soulreap> it was dirty
21:04:57 <Halcyon> I can't last that long :P
21:05:26 <soulreap> me and mum went to second hand shop
21:05:35 <soulreap> i buy it from there
21:05:40 <soulreap> for $30
21:09:08 <soulreap> it is fun
21:25:23 <Halcyon> Brrr, I think it's going to be cold tonight
21:26:24 <Halcyon> It's going to get down to 8 degrees overnight
21:26:28 * steve30 snuggles up to Halcyon and purrs
21:26:40 * Halcyon sneezes all over steve30
21:27:02 <steve30> eww
21:27:08 <Halcyon> :)
21:27:23 <steve30> anyway, don't you have a boyfriend to keep you warm?
21:27:48 <Halcyon> Yeh but I'm like a hot water bottle, it's usually the other way around
21:27:58 <Halcyon> He's freezing and I'm in shorts and a t-shirt
21:29:24 * steve30 passes Halcyon a ServalSpots for extra warmth
21:30:13 <soulreap> cold here toooo
21:30:18 <soulreap> and windyy
21:39:42 <Halcyon> Where is 'here' soulreap ?
21:40:14 <soulreap> ooh Tasmania
21:40:44 <Halcyon> I love Tassie
21:40:50 <Halcyon> One of my favourite places in Australia
21:40:56 <soulreap> ooh cool
21:43:45 <soulreap> but cold today
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23:57:11 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: OMG, can't believe I hadn't heard of Movie 43 before. Sublime.
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