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01:27:30 <Ampera> damian, Halcyon looks like the most Australian person you could possibly imagine.
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06:10:58 <damian> Ampera, i don't know what you mean by australian looking, lol
06:11:03 <damian> he's aboriginal?
06:13:30 <Ampera> no
06:13:40 <Ampera> but he does have blonde hair, blue eyes
06:13:56 <Ampera> he's just someone where, if you saw a picture of him, you'd know, yep, he's Australian
06:14:13 <Ampera> hard to explain, and it may be my americanism
06:27:35 <T3sl4> it's the wide brimmed hat and "that's not a knife" knife.
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09:03:08 <coppice> Ampera: I'm blonde and blue eyed. That doesn't make me Australian
10:24:27 <Halcyon> Morning
10:24:45 * Halcyon cuddles Ampera
10:26:51 * T3sl4 wafts a smell at Halcyon
10:26:57 <T3sl4> the smell of pizza :)
10:28:30 <Halcyon> Oooh
10:28:34 <Halcyon> What's on it?
10:28:50 <T3sl4> pepperoni, bacon, onion, jalapeno
10:28:58 <Halcyon> Delicious
10:35:41 <DogWomble_> no pineapple?
10:36:16 <DogWomble_> pineapple was made for pizza
10:36:50 <Halcyon> Pineapple is delicious
10:37:01 <DogWomble_> i <3 pineapple
10:37:32 <T3sl4> dont have any :(
10:37:41 * Halcyon sips coffee
10:37:55 <DogWomble_> yum coffee :)
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10:41:59 <Halcyon> Oh gawd, the Vegan nutbags are at it again I see
10:43:30 * Ampera smashes Halcyon across the head with a giant leek
10:43:53 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Wow, never seen the album before. https://t.co/NZDLJKxEjF
10:44:05 <Halcyon> I like leek
10:44:38 <Halcyon> How on earth has Dave not seen the BTTF soundtrack?
10:51:05 * Ampera throws earth at Halcyon
10:51:16 <Halcyon> Put it back! :P
10:51:29 <Ampera> put what back?
10:51:33 <Halcyon> The Earth
10:51:46 <Ampera> I threw earth at you, not the earth you daft cunt
10:53:21 <Ampera> why don't you understand my americanisms
11:19:57 <Halcyon> Because you speak weird :P
11:22:06 * Ampera hugs Halcyon
11:22:56 <Halcyon> Aww :)
11:24:50 <DHess_US> No, that was The Earth you threw at him. Now it is stuck to his feet.
11:25:05 * Ampera crucifies DHess_US
11:35:17 <DogWomble> at least he can play soccer with it now
11:37:47 <DHess_US> Help, help, I'm being repressed! See the violence inherent in the system!
11:39:11 <DogWomble> Bloody Peasant!
12:10:33 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Free to good home. As repaired in my video. Pickup only from the lab. Email me. https://t.co/GklfvxOSA3
12:18:32 <T3sl4> i didn't vote for Ampera, that's for sure
12:18:45 * Ampera squeezes T3sl4
12:18:50 <T3sl4> :3
12:23:16 * steve30 hugs Halcyon
12:24:51 <steve30> I wouldn't mind another coffee
12:27:53 * T3sl4 hugs steve30
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12:48:39 <Halcyon> Yay
12:48:50 <Ampera> hi Halcyon, how do
12:48:57 <T3sl4> hi
12:49:12 <mrpackethead> wow. irc is actually got peopple on it
12:49:51 <steve30> yup
12:50:13 <Ampera> IRC always has people on it
13:07:30 <DHess_US> No, I'm the only person here. The rest of you are my imagination.
13:07:56 <T3sl4> that explains the bizzare porn on the other window
13:08:00 <T3sl4> oh, hi Ampera
13:08:18 <Ampera> no, I'm not looking at any right now
13:08:24 <DHess_US> That is how I compartmentalize even from myself.
13:12:45 <steve30> I need to do my shopping this morning
13:12:54 <T3sl4> how's the weather?
13:13:10 <steve30> forecast looks reasonable
13:13:26 <T3sl4> woo
13:15:07 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Benches are back! https://t.co/e04jEdlN3a
13:16:32 <Ampera> steve30, how's the aftcast looking?
13:16:51 * T3sl4 portcasts a spell on Ampera
13:17:07 * Ampera water, er, starboards T3sl4
13:17:29 <T3sl4> water water all around, so let's all have a torture
13:17:30 <Halcyon> I'm good
13:17:34 <Halcyon> Just doing paperwork
13:17:35 <T3sl4> wait, however that saying goes
13:18:45 * Ampera throws the entire series of DS9 on VHS at T3sl4
13:19:51 * T3sl4 catches it, pops it in
13:20:43 <steve30> If I get chance this afternoon, I'll call in at the hospital to see how my grandad's doing
13:20:57 <mrpackethead> steve30, make a chance
13:21:04 <mrpackethead> dont' leave it to chance
13:21:23 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/5yVM15D.gif
13:21:54 <T3sl4> oh what, you want your tapes back? https://i.imgur.com/AOVSZdm.mp4
13:29:31 <Halcyon> Speaking of tapes, I'm 97% done! \o/
13:30:11 <T3sl4> aw, you should keep the tapeworm, it maintains your girlish figure!
13:30:38 * Ampera hits Halcyon with a QIC-80 drive
13:31:16 <Halcyon> Owww, pointy
13:41:36 <Ampera> ah man it's 53 out
13:41:59 <Ampera> We're in for a warm week, his ranging from 48 all the way up to 64
13:42:05 <T3sl4> it's walking weather :)
13:42:35 <Ampera> I guess. My optimal walking weather is around 45-55, 60 if I have to.
13:42:39 <Ampera> anything higher and it's not optimal
13:43:41 <T3sl4> a sweaty walk is still a good way
13:43:42 <T3sl4> walk
13:43:55 <Ampera> I /hate/ heat with a burning passion
13:44:10 <Ampera> If the weather goes above 75 I'm pissed
13:45:43 <DHess_US> The only problem with hot humid weather here is mosquitos and no-see-ems.
13:46:02 <Ampera> and where is here
13:46:08 <DHess_US> Missouri
13:46:16 <Ampera> sounds like misery
13:46:24 <DHess_US> Not as bad as further south but bad enough.
13:46:38 <Ampera> I live in one of the few US states worth living in
13:46:40 <Ampera> New York
13:46:55 <DHess_US> At least we get hard freezes here in winter so we are north of the bug line.
13:47:17 <DHess_US> Eh, I will disagree based on gun laws alone.
13:47:23 <T3sl4> until global warming hitches it up anyway
13:47:32 <Ampera> Good point DHess_US
13:48:01 <Ampera> At least I can still have a fucking swiss army knife
13:48:05 <Ampera> *cough* HALCYON *cough*
13:48:16 <DHess_US> Nope, gravity knives are illegal in New York.
13:48:28 <Ampera> swiss army knives aren't gravity knives
13:48:37 <DHess_US> They are according to New York.
13:48:44 <Ampera> yeano
13:48:52 <Ampera> big citation needed
13:49:01 <DHess_US> yea yes. They just did that court case.
13:49:18 <Ampera> citation needed
13:51:12 <DHess_US> Hmm, I thought they lost the court case. https://reason.com/blog/2019/03/28/federal-judge-rules-new-yorks-insane-gra
13:51:33 <DHess_US> Basically if you can grip the blade and open it via a flick, it counts as a gravity knife.
13:51:44 <Ampera> I can't do that with my knife
13:51:52 <DHess_US> Or at least it did up until mar 28
13:51:59 <Ampera> I can, with very intense effort, open it with one hand
13:52:04 <DHess_US> It doesn't matter if you can or not. It matters if a police officer can.
13:52:13 <DHess_US> Then it is a gravity knife.
13:53:11 <Ampera> I can throw and flick my knife all I want, it's not possible, the hinge is too stiff
13:53:32 <DHess_US> But can someone else do it?
13:53:34 <DHess_US> https://www.ammoland.com/2019/01/petition-for-writ-of-certiorari-filed-in-knife-rights-ny-city-gravity-knife-case/
13:53:56 <Ampera> No, you could probably launch it in just the best way and it wouldn't do it.
13:54:07 <Ampera> The mechanical disadvantage just doesn't make that possible
13:54:10 <DHess_US> https://www.law.com/newyorklawjournal/2018/06/22/second-circuit-upholds-new-york-state-gravity-knife-ban/
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13:54:35 <Ampera> In Australia, however, it's completely illegal to possess /any/ blade in public, without a utilitarian excuse (eating food, hobby or profession)
13:54:57 <DHess_US> I've seen how they do it. They grip using thumb and finger at the thumb groove and flick the wrist. If you are good at it, you can open almost any friction folder.
13:56:52 <Ampera> My knife is just too small for that, it's one of the smaller Victorinox knives.
13:57:08 <Ampera> I can't even open it intentionally, no flick, with one hand
13:57:25 <Ampera> Not without using something else to brace it against
13:57:34 <T3sl4> in thread making retard jokes, Manager: "It's a power I'm not capable of controlling." Response: "It's a double edged safety scissors."
14:00:48 <Halcyon> Ampera: It's called common sense :P
14:00:51 <steve30> I'm going tired again
14:01:32 <Halcyon> Aww poor Steve
14:01:35 * Halcyon scratches
14:01:37 * T3sl4 scritches steve30, puts him atop a Trinitron with a pillow
14:01:55 <Ampera> Halcyon, it's not common sense, it's authoritarian and unnecessary. I do not believe it has any positive effect whatsoever.
14:02:02 <Ampera> It will stop nobody besides people who follow the law.
14:02:13 * steve30 purrs at T3sl4
14:02:23 <Halcyon> It doesn't matter what you believe, the rate of stabbings and locking up crooks speaks for itself
14:02:45 <Halcyon> And "because I want to" is not a valid reason for carrying a weapon of any sort
14:02:51 <DHess_US> Have to feed the New York criminal "justice" system.
14:03:17 <DHess_US> It is here.
14:03:24 <T3sl4> cant lock up weed smokers anymore amirite
14:03:31 <DHess_US> There is no means test in our right to bare arms.
14:03:32 <Ampera> Halcyon, how can you possibly compare that one single law with overall rate of knife crime?
14:03:47 <DHess_US> bear
14:03:57 <mrpackethead> Been encouraging to see how many people have just been turning in their MSSA's at local police stations in the last few days
14:04:06 <Halcyon> Uhh... stabbings usually involve a knife
14:04:13 <mrpackethead> and not even wanting any compensation.. Just 'doing the right thign'
14:04:37 <Ampera> Halcyon, oh please tell me how that ties this all together.
14:04:41 <DHess_US> Cannot have folding knives in New York but nunchucks are protected, https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/12/18/new-york-ban-nunchucks-unconstitutional-says-federal-court/2347167002/
14:04:54 <Ampera> I'm real interested to see what sort of logical gymnastics you can perform today
14:05:00 <Halcyon> Well, less knives out in public, equal less people getting stabbed
14:05:07 <Halcyon> No gymnastics needed
14:05:10 <Halcyon> It's pretty simple stuff
14:05:20 <Ampera> How does making knives illegal make less knives be out in public?
14:05:22 <Halcyon> Same with guns
14:05:33 <mrpackethead> its working with guns here
14:05:36 <Halcyon> Because you can confiscate and lock up the crooks who choose to ignore the law
14:05:46 <Halcyon> Rather than just smiling at them and waving goodbye
14:06:08 <DHess_US> Halcyon, the problem there is that gun laws have nothing to do with knives and knife laws have nothing to do with guns. In the US, violence of all types is proportionally high.
14:06:34 <Halcyon> I'm not comparing guns with knives. Guns have little to do with stabbings.
14:06:54 <Halcyon> I'm just addressing the issue of knives and crimes involving them
14:06:55 <DHess_US> And even if they weren't, the laws which are always proposed don't apply to the weapons commonly used.
14:07:04 <Halcyon> Such as?
14:07:22 <DHess_US> Like "assault weaspon" bans.
14:07:37 <T3sl4> steve30: https://www.reddit.com/r/PeopleFuckingDying/comments/bazbep/guy_fucking_strangles_poor_feline/
14:07:56 <Ampera> Halcyon, and how do you propose to find those criminals?
14:08:10 <Halcyon> We've been through this Ampera, time and time again
14:08:18 <Ampera> and you're still full of shit.
14:08:18 <DHess_US> Back when Feinstein was lecturing the Senate, she asked the FBI for an "assault weapon" used in a crime and they couldn't give her one because they didn't have one. Those types of crimes were too rare.
14:08:26 <Halcyon> Proactivity in Policing works VERY well
14:08:35 <Ampera> I have good use for a swiss army knife, it's an important tool for me to have.
14:08:41 <DHess_US> Yea, that was the theory behind Fergeson.
14:08:49 <Ampera> If I wanted to stab someone with it, I wouldn't be discouraged by a law telling me not to.
14:08:55 <Ampera> Stabbing people is already illegal.
14:09:28 <DHess_US> New York has a bunch of lawsuits and consent decrees because of "proactive policing".
14:09:29 <Halcyon> Well, I'm not because (a) the laws work and results speak for themselves, (b) I've been a Police officer for 11 years, you haven't, (c) I've been to course and defended the victims, you haven't, (d) I was there one picking up the pieces every time someone got stabbed or shot.
14:09:43 <Halcyon> *court
14:09:49 <DHess_US> Halcyon, police officer where?
14:09:53 <Halcyon> Sydney
14:10:12 <DHess_US> Maybe Australian police aren't thungs like US police.
14:10:17 <DHess_US> But I doubt it.
14:10:36 <Halcyon> I'm not suggesting our laws are perfect, no countries law are... but these archaic ideas you guys seem to hold onto with dear life need to change.
14:10:53 <Halcyon> As I said, carrying a knife or a gun around the streets "just because" is not a reason.
14:11:03 <Halcyon> Nah, we are pretty good.
14:11:06 <Ampera> I'm not talking about guns, I'm talking about knives.
14:11:09 <Ampera> So I can open up, you know, a box
14:11:10 <Ampera> a package
14:11:13 <Halcyon> Yes
14:11:20 <Ampera> things that exist in the world
14:11:26 <Ampera> my knife also has scissors
14:11:34 <Halcyon> As you said yourself, if you have a valid reason for carrying one, for example, that, then fine.
14:11:39 <DHess_US> This is what US "professional policing" is about, https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/18/us/officer-charged-deadly-houston-raid/index.html
14:11:45 <Ampera> Here's a question, why don't you outlaw cars, Halcyon?
14:11:46 <Halcyon> You carry one around because you're a shit bag and want to intimidate people, that's not OK
14:12:07 <Ampera> They are far more deadly than a knife, and I'm sure if you got rid of them and forced people to public transport, you'd get rid of accidents considerably.
14:12:13 <Halcyon> Honestly? Ampera, I expected more from you. This is the usual bullshit response American's give when they have no where else to turn.
14:12:24 <Ampera> Then answer the question if it's so hollow.
14:12:25 <Halcyon> Why don't we just outlaw all fatty and sugary foods too?
14:12:35 <DHess_US> Some of our cities have tried.
14:12:36 <Halcyon> Why don't we shoot all criminals, no crime then
14:12:38 <T3sl4> also Halcyon, for all the things you like sticking it in, https://i.redd.it/4q9gt85ye3r21.jpg
14:12:47 <Halcyon> Why don't we get rid of all people, because people are shit
14:12:54 <Halcyon> Hahahah
14:12:56 <Halcyon> Love it T3sl4
14:12:58 <Ampera> Please return to my original question.
14:13:09 <Ampera> You're the one copping out here.
14:13:17 <Halcyon> Countries rely on transportation, i.e.: Cars.
14:13:24 <Ampera> People rely on knives.
14:13:29 <Halcyon> Oh my gawd
14:13:38 <Halcyon> Sorry, you are being childish now. I'm ending it here.
14:14:03 <Halcyon> Let's cancel the internet too because it's used by Peado's
14:14:16 <DHess_US> Isn't that what NZ and Australia are doing?
14:14:35 <Halcyon> DHess_US, they try, but DNS blocks don't work :P
14:14:41 <Halcyon> Gee, fancy that
14:15:00 <T3sl4> what's wrong with people getting personal with pulses?
14:15:07 <DHess_US> BGP blackhole routing does though.
14:15:30 * Halcyon pulses T3sl4
14:15:40 <Halcyon> DHess_US, politicians aren't that smart :P
14:15:43 * T3sl4 peas on Halcyon
14:15:47 <damian> Halcyon, can you make a network diagram for me
14:15:49 <damian> i'm very bad at them
14:15:50 <damian> kthx
14:15:59 <DHess_US> Russian ones are though and it is only a matter of time.
14:16:08 <Halcyon> Hahaha
14:16:13 <Halcyon> Is this for your meeting damian ?
14:16:39 <Halcyon> Yeh, didn't the Russians hijack Google for a short time recently?
14:17:03 <damian> it's for the bosses meeting, yeah, haha
14:17:17 <damian> but i can never get a good network diagram happening, i just get so confused
14:17:28 * Halcyon sends damian a pack of Crayola
14:17:49 <Halcyon> What do you nee to show the bosses?
14:18:15 <Halcyon> Surely they only need a high-level overview?
14:18:27 <damian> yeah, i just can't determine what a high level overview looks like :P
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14:18:40 <Halcyon> Circles and lines
14:18:45 <damian> how do you draw circles
14:18:55 <Halcyon> On a whiteboard
14:18:57 <T3sl4> ooh yeah talk dirty to me
14:19:07 <damian> but i want to do it on the computer
14:19:33 <damian> nah, for the purpose of this i mainly just need to show how the RDS fits together, which is easy enough
14:19:33 <Halcyon> Have you got Visio or something ?
14:19:40 <damian> but i want to make a complete head office one
14:19:51 <damian> i use draw.io, i gave up on trying to find visio licensing years ago
14:20:03 <Halcyon> OK, so what are you having issues with?
14:20:39 <damian> EVERYTHING MAN
14:20:40 <damian> EVERYTHING
14:20:49 <damian> nah not really, i just like examples to base my work off of
14:21:00 <T3sl4> hey, hey, calm down, am
14:21:03 <Halcyon> https://www.google.com.au/search?q=high+level+network+diagram&client=opera&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiJquHllcLhAhWrF6YKHWyGCKwQ_AUIDigB&biw=1233&bih=1038
14:21:05 <T3sl4> wait, you're not Ampera
14:21:06 <damian> NO
14:21:11 <damian> YOU CALM DOWN TES-LA
14:21:35 <mrpackethead> "Maybe Australian police aren't thungs like US police."
14:22:20 <mrpackethead> maybe. the NZ police were so professional a few weeks ago, that they didtn shoot the person who had just killed 50 peopel and seriously ingured another 39
14:22:39 <mrpackethead> in some respects it woudl have been helpful if they had
14:22:51 <Halcyon> I think NZ have learned a valuable lesson. I don't blame them for hesitating.
14:23:08 <Halcyon> It's probably how they are trained, either the training needs to be reviewed or they need more of it.
14:23:36 <Halcyon> It's a shit situation to be in
14:23:58 <Halcyon> We now train based on the FBI's weapons packages
14:24:02 <Halcyon> But it's still not enough
14:24:39 <Halcyon> 1 day a year shooting is no where near enough training
14:29:32 <DHess_US> mvpackethead, if they had been US police, they would have missed the suspect and shot several bystanders.
14:30:29 <Halcyon> Close your eyes and pull the trigger? :P
14:30:57 <DHess_US> "Nine bystanders were wounded by stray bullets fired by the officers"
14:31:02 <DHess_US> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Empire_State_Building_shooting
14:31:09 <DHess_US> Just the first one that came to mind.
14:31:13 <Halcyon> That's not ideal
14:31:53 <DHess_US> We have had proposals for ammunition purchase limits which would prevent civilian practice.
14:32:32 <Halcyon> Heh, the magpies are chasing each other out the front
14:32:59 <DHess_US> I used to practice so much that when I went shooting with my friends in the desert, I had to agree to shoot the targets back to front or they wouldn't get any.
14:34:36 <DHess_US> Twice in Missouri I have been in a position where I migth have used my firearm. I live near St. Louis which has the highest crime rate in the US.
14:35:23 <DHess_US> In neither case did I brandish but only because the other person saw that I was focused on them and ready to immediately act.
14:35:35 <DHess_US> They lost interest.
14:35:51 <DHess_US> So I guess you could call that a critical success of the victem selection process.
14:38:14 <DHess_US> Coincidently the state where Benchmade Knives stepped into the gun control quagmire. https://www.personaldefenseworld.com/2019/01/oregon-gun-bill-sb-501/
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14:47:40 <mrpackethead> DHess_US, It makes me sad when i hear how things have gone over there
14:47:58 <mrpackethead> it makes me sad that we did'tn act earlier.
14:51:26 <DHess_US> The only thing which changed was the reporting. Read about the history of law enforcement operations before Miranda or incorportation of the 5th to see how bad it used to be.
14:51:49 <DHess_US> The US suffers from its polyglot nature.
14:52:34 <DHess_US> Which is also why civilian disarmament would make things much much worse.
14:54:37 <mrpackethead> so, says the NRA
14:54:48 <mrpackethead> on much more joyus matters
14:55:00 <mrpackethead> my DIY vapour phase is taking shape
14:55:12 <mrpackethead> trying to do somethign with a $79 frying pan.
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14:57:53 <DHess_US> Just the game theory is enough. Oddly enough, studies of how various weapon laws affected crime in Britain support it. Given the nature of violent crime in the US, trading burglaries for robberies would be a major problem.
14:58:37 <mrpackethead> on the whole we live nicely without having to have defensive weapons
14:58:41 <mrpackethead> ( handugns )
14:58:54 <mrpackethead> getting rid of some offensive MSSA's will help
14:59:10 <DHess_US> Where is that?
14:59:18 <mrpackethead> New Zealand
14:59:34 <Halcyon> I didn't know you were Kiwi mrpackethead, for some reason I thought you might have been from Retardistan
14:59:43 <DHess_US> Yea, New Zealand is a lot more uniform which helps a lot.
14:59:49 <mrpackethead> uniform?
14:59:51 <mrpackethead> what do you mean?
15:00:09 <DHess_US> I mean the demographics of the New Zealand population is a lot more uniform.
15:00:14 <mrpackethead> bollocks
15:00:19 <DHess_US> MOre so than the US.
15:00:20 <mrpackethead> its increadinbly diverse
15:00:38 <Halcyon> I would have thought it was too, but then again, I've never been
15:00:46 <mrpackethead> in the city i live in there are more than 90 ethnic groups and more than 70 languages spoken
15:00:57 <mrpackethead> just for example.
15:01:26 <mrpackethead> have you been here?
15:01:51 <mrpackethead> BTW, i've been the USA
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15:12:18 <Ampera> Halcyon, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teD9t-lO_o0
15:12:44 <Halcyon> EH, not my style of music
15:13:09 <Ampera> The lyrics are good.
15:13:18 <Ampera> it asks a very simple question
15:13:20 <Ampera> how can you sleep
15:13:46 <Halcyon> Wine helps :P
15:13:52 <Halcyon> And airconditioning
15:14:23 <Ampera> I'm just dropping in to notify you that, after recent comments made by various people, progressions I am unhappy about, and personal security reasons, I am going to be permanently discontinuing my activities and bot hosting on AustNet
15:16:04 <Ampera> Halcyon, oh and Dave's giving away a free scope: https://twitter.com/eevblog/status/1115438296362938370
15:17:19 <Halcyon> Oh how come Ampera?
15:17:23 <Halcyon> What happened?
15:18:32 <Ampera> Well a guy's been harassing me on this server, nothing really bad to the point where ircops should get involved, but I just can't stay on while he's here. It's gotten kinda creepy now, kinda scared of him, but I think I just wanna leave. He's also been a bit of a dick to me one or two times.
15:18:50 Mode: (by Ampera) +v EEVBlog
16:06:13 * T3sl4 hugs Ampera
16:18:57 <Halcyon> YAY! My backup had finially finished
16:20:55 <Ampera> how often will you pull them?
16:22:40 <Halcyon> Pull them ?
16:24:47 <Ampera> make them
16:24:56 <Ampera> T3sl4, serious question, are you gay?
16:25:28 <T3sl4> nope
16:25:44 <Halcyon> Dammit, all that flirting for nothing :P
16:25:57 <Ampera> Are you straight?
16:26:10 * T3sl4 pokes Halcyon with a definitely-not-his-own-flesh dildo
16:26:23 <Ampera> wait
16:26:27 <Ampera> I think I've figured T3sl4 out
16:26:29 <Ampera> he's not gay
16:26:31 <Ampera> SHE'S A LESBIAN
16:26:35 <T3sl4> hahaha
16:26:37 <Halcyon> :P
16:26:45 <T3sl4> true story tho
16:26:54 <T3sl4> i have a half sister who's trans and les
16:27:04 <T3sl4> literal lesbian trapped in a mans body
16:27:05 <Ampera> now when you say sister
16:27:10 <Ampera> ok
16:27:37 <Ampera> so a guy who mighty morphin power ranger'd into a piece of property
16:28:39 <T3sl4> uh
16:28:56 <Ampera> is that a yes or a no
16:29:24 <T3sl4> what property
16:29:34 <Ampera> boardwalk
16:29:44 <T3sl4> that'll be $400, enjoy your stay
16:29:55 <Ampera> I wish I was property :(
16:31:01 * T3sl4 rents out Ampera to Halcyon
16:31:24 <Ampera> Halcyon wouldn't like a trap like me
16:31:29 <Ampera> even though traps are gay
16:31:40 <Halcyon> Trap?
16:31:54 <T3sl4> i don't care if you're gay, as long as you like hugs :)
16:32:02 <Ampera> I don't I hate th em
16:32:05 * Ampera hugs Halcyon
16:32:11 <Ampera> now I hate you too
16:33:08 <DogWomble_> T3sl4, does that make you a cuddle slut?
16:33:29 <T3sl4> maybe
16:35:29 <Ampera> I wish I was dead
16:36:05 <Ampera> Halcyon, any suggestions?
16:36:22 <Halcyon> Nope :P
16:36:40 <Ampera> :/ you're smart, I'd have thought you'd know how I could die
16:36:55 <T3sl4> and you don't like drugs?
16:37:05 <Ampera> I feel my mind starting to break down
16:37:41 <DogWomble_> my mind has always been broken down
16:37:54 <Ampera> no I'm serious, I think it's serious
16:38:02 <Ampera> serious, so serious
16:38:15 <Ampera> jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj
16:39:17 <Ampera> good night
16:39:24 <T3sl4> cya
16:39:29 <Halcyon> Night
16:47:11 <Ampera> f
16:50:23 <T3sl4> i respect that
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16:56:19 <hsn993> my first enclosure design is the worst enclosure design
17:01:21 <T3sl4> everyone's first time always is
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17:49:09 <hsn993> https://snag.gy/GZpw3f.jpg
17:49:58 <hsn993> https://snag.gy/Cpe1iy.jpg
17:50:20 <hsn993> that db9 has different pitch connector on board :D
17:50:44 <T3sl4> well, it's not an IP66 rated enclosure now :D
17:50:55 <hsn993> its not ip30 i think :D
17:54:10 <hsn993> my conclusion, this type of enclusures is good for panel mount stuff only.
17:55:45 <T3sl4> funny, i've got this sitting in my junk bin https://i.imgur.com/RLAvRAo.jpg
17:56:18 <T3sl4> they're not cheap, at least the genuine hoffman IP66/67 kind
17:56:58 <T3sl4> or for that matter, the metal-spraypainted-interior shielded version, which i don't have any of, but which we ended up having to use with the project that i got that spare box from
18:01:28 <T3sl4> so, ya got burned by the DE9 footprint?
18:11:04 <hsn993> the pcb or panal one. both are crap :D
18:12:08 <hsn993> then for different design i went for aluminum extrusion (that was my second enclosure design) it looks much better
18:14:34 <hsn993> and the green color of pcb actually turn out much sexier :D
18:14:36 <hsn993> https://snag.gy/KlgYWL.jpg
18:15:41 <hsn993> db37 ^
18:19:17 <hsn993> but this is like different function controller. but seems like the plastic hammond one was hard for me i did alot of stupid mistakes in it i could see that before cutting it
18:24:54 <hsn993> although my expectations were higher :D https://snag.gy/EiJ9e0.jpg
18:27:57 <T3sl4> nice :)
18:28:28 <T3sl4> BFG you say? https://i.imgur.com/FyZCm7u.jpg
18:39:37 <hsn993> :D
18:42:20 <hsn993> http://www.bfginternational.com/
18:44:53 <T3sl4> architectural? or less structural and more functional or decorative?
18:46:45 <hsn993> composite , frp
18:49:10 <hsn993> http://www.bfginternational.com/history
18:51:54 <T3sl4> ahh
18:58:28 <hsn993> but the main page doesnt show railway info
19:28:23 <K> hello
19:36:08 <hsn993> hello K
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21:41:55 <Halcyon> Cheers ibiza
21:43:07 <steve30> o/
21:44:35 <Halcyon> Hey Steve :)
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21:46:02 <Halcyon> Welcome
21:46:16 <Halcyon> Gents, soulreap is from #Melbourne and is putting together a vintage PC or two
21:46:20 <Halcyon> Play nice
21:46:27 <soulreap> hi
21:46:37 <steve30> I had a letter from a police superintendent yesterday assuring me that they take the safety of cyclists seriously.
21:46:40 <soulreap> ty Halcyon
21:46:52 <steve30> hi soulreap
21:46:53 <Halcyon> I saw your news piece Steve
21:47:02 <soulreap> hi steve30
21:47:51 <steve30> the one with the cute photo?
21:47:59 <Halcyon> I saw that one
21:48:15 <Halcyon> But there was a thing you wrote in about a tunnel or something?
21:48:27 <ibiza> i prefer other types of vintage Halcyon
21:48:28 <ibiza> :p
21:48:38 <Halcyon> Do tell ibiza
21:48:42 <ibiza> oh behave
21:48:46 <Halcyon> Cheese? :P
21:48:53 <steve30> the subway? http://stevecoates.net/subway_letter.jpg
21:49:01 <Halcyon> Ahh that's what it was
21:49:16 <Halcyon> But yes, you looked spunky in the other one :)
21:49:18 <Halcyon> Totally my type
21:49:20 <ibiza> smeg ?
21:49:29 <Halcyon> I prefer Siemens :P
21:49:37 <ibiza> lollllllllllllllll
21:49:51 <ibiza> mate u crack me up
21:49:51 <Halcyon> *grin*
21:49:51 <steve30> The one with the photo was about parking facilities. The letter I just had from the police related to road safety.
21:49:58 <ibiza> dont ever change your sense of humour
21:50:13 <Halcyon> Oh I won't. 11+ years on the cops changes a person :P
21:50:17 <Halcyon> *in
21:51:01 <ibiza> ok i better stop eating this 1200l of coldrock ice cream
21:51:22 <Halcyon> 1.2L ?
21:51:35 <Halcyon> What flavour did you get?
21:51:53 <ibiza> pm ur number Halcyon ill whatsapp u
21:53:31 <ibiza> bubblegum, mint, boysenberry, honeycomb
21:53:34 <ibiza> with gummy bears
21:54:37 <Halcyon> All in one tub?
21:55:18 <Halcyon> I just saw your photo ibiza, that looks...... so artificial
21:55:23 <Halcyon> Like unicorn spoof
21:57:14 <soulreap> Halcyon: i bbl have to go have meds and chill out for bit
21:57:29 <Stiff> cya soulreap :)
21:57:46 <soulreap> Stiff: chat laters :D
21:58:01 <steve30> I should go and sort out my bike tyres
21:58:01 <Halcyon> That's OK, I'm organising my Macgyver collection :P
21:58:24 <Stiff> what's the scenario today Halcyon ?
21:58:39 <Halcyon> No idea, I'm adding to my NAS then to Plex
21:58:43 <Halcyon> Haven't watched it yet
22:00:11 <Stiff> honestly never watched it
22:01:26 <Halcyon> How old are you?
22:01:33 <Stiff> 33
22:01:58 <Halcyon> Mmm same
22:02:05 <Halcyon> I guess we were too young when it came out
22:02:22 <Stiff> yeah i think so, the folks didnt watch it either
22:02:23 <Halcyon> Although I *love* Hogan's Heroes
22:04:12 <Stiff> thats too old for us!
22:04:37 <Halcyon> I hated it as a kid (because I didn't get it), now I love it
22:04:40 <Halcyon> It's very clever
22:05:13 <Stiff> ahh!
22:05:21 <Stiff> maybe ill give it another try :)
22:05:29 <Stiff> i watch green acres and get smart
22:05:39 <Halcyon> Get Smart is great too
22:05:44 <Halcyon> Do you use Plex?
22:05:52 <Stiff> nah i dont
22:05:56 <Stiff> Fox Classics
22:06:13 <Halcyon> As in Plex media player
22:06:34 <Halcyon> I could add you to my server if you sign up for an account. Can stream media via a web browser, media player or your phone
22:07:11 <Stiff> then i could use it through the chromecast?
22:07:37 <Halcyon> You could yeh
22:07:48 <Halcyon> It's free to sign up: plex.tv
22:07:56 <Halcyon> It costs if you want to start running your own server
22:08:10 <Stiff> ill have to have a look!
22:08:40 <Halcyon> If you do sign up, send me your username/email and I'll add you
22:08:42 <Stiff> we seem to have every other thing in this house
22:08:50 <Stiff> stan/netflix foxtel
22:08:57 <Stiff> never ends lol
22:09:18 <Halcyon> This is basically your own private Netflix. You can stream your own content to your devices and share it with others
22:10:56 <Halcyon> Ibiza, you should sign up too, you seem to be a fan of old TV
22:10:57 <Halcyon> I have heaps
22:18:41 <Stiff> do you have captain planet?
22:18:47 <Halcyon> No, but I should get it
22:18:54 <Stiff> i was telling my youngest one about that show on the weekend
22:18:57 <Halcyon> I thought I did have it somewhere...
22:18:58 <Stiff> was a fav when i was young
22:19:23 <Stiff> FIRE
22:19:24 <Stiff> WIND
22:19:26 <Stiff> HEART
22:19:27 <Halcyon> I have a bit of kids content on there, but not a huge amounts, you're free to have a browse
22:19:30 <Stiff> GOOOOOOOO PLANNET!
22:20:49 <Stiff> thanks Halcyon :) ill get onto it
22:20:59 <Halcyon> Hurry up :P
22:21:47 <Stiff> ive signed up, but emailed to work
22:21:53 <Stiff> so ill get that in the morning
22:22:04 <Halcyon> Ah you have to verify?
22:23:38 <Stiff> i assumed i would have
22:23:44 <K> wrt to movies/cartoons on the internet - http://www.pracdev.org/channel99/
22:24:21 <Halcyon> PM me your username, I'll see if I can add you. You'll need to accept the invite via email anyway
22:26:41 <Halcyon> K: WRT?
22:27:36 <K> with regard to ?
22:27:44 <Halcyon> <K> wrt to movies/cartoons on the internet - http://www.pracdev.org/channel99/
22:30:03 <ibiza> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCE4y9O7vTM
22:32:28 <Halcyon> Oh gees
23:09:39 <soulreap> hi
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