// #eevblog — 2019-04-05
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00:50:34 <hsn> check this out: http://99.51.244.77:823/YourFreeLibrary/
00:50:45 <hsn> this is awesome
00:51:04 <hsn> are we allowed? :D
02:22:08 <Ampera> hsn, what is that
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09:56:28 <mrpackethead> how fesible is it to have a LDO in parrallel with a switching supply
09:56:55 <mrpackethead> when a proecessor is in sleep, being able to shut the switcher down woudl be good
10:16:46 * Ampera pokes T3sl4 with a cheese stick
10:20:28 Nick: Halcyon1 is now known as Halcyon
10:20:47 <Halcyon> Morning all
10:22:02 * Ampera pokes Halcyon with a celery
10:22:28 <Halcyon> Ew, I fucking hate celery
10:22:30 <Halcyon> It tastes like metal
10:22:54 <Ampera> well I fucking hate you, you taste like finland
10:23:27 <Halcyon> Vodka and herring?
10:24:09 * Ampera hugs the Halcyon
10:25:10 <Halcyon> Nawww :) *cuddles*
10:25:12 <Halcyon> I love hugs
10:25:24 <EEVBlog1> New EEVBlog Tweet: Book gets accidentally delivered to my PO Box by mistake, and out of the billions of books it's one about the Parkes radio telescope and John Bolton. And it came from Minna close, next door to the old Altium building. Spooky. https://t.co/Eb71ecGbzD
10:42:32 * steve30 meows at Halcyon
10:42:38 <Halcyon> Hey Steve :)
10:42:43 <Halcyon> *scratches*
10:43:50 <Ampera> Fucking finally
10:43:56 <Ampera> AustNet's cert is valid again
10:44:00 <Ampera> that took too fucking long
10:44:01 <Halcyon> \o/
10:44:27 <Ampera> I can start working on the Discord bot again, but to be honest I'd only do it if we genuinely wanted a Discord presence.
10:44:48 <Ampera> I don't think I'll be offering it as a service to AustNet anymore, only something that I run.
10:44:54 <Halcyon> I mean *I* don't use Discord anymore
10:45:05 <Halcyon> But that's not to say others won't find it usefu
10:45:06 <Halcyon> l
10:45:31 <Ampera> idk Dave would need to be onboard.
10:45:51 <Ampera> but I have good experience running Discord communities.
10:50:21 <Halcyon> Then do it
10:51:18 <Ampera> There would be no point unless he wanted to advertise it, and there's already so many other things
10:51:26 <Ampera> and this channel doesn't get used much except by the same 5 people
10:51:45 <Halcyon> I think that's the nature of IRC these days, a lot of people don't see the point
10:51:46 <Ampera> and everyone except one is already on the jspiros channel
10:51:58 <Halcyon> It's only because we're nerds
11:13:10 <mrpackethead> "AustNet's cert is valid again"
11:14:02 <mrpackethead> the reason this channel dioe'snt get used its because its on a whopsville network that is not maintained properly
11:14:11 <mrpackethead> but you know that
11:15:49 <steve30> i should probably go to sleep
11:15:56 <T3sl4> hi
11:18:17 <mrpackethead> Hello T3sl4
11:18:47 * T3sl4 routes mrpacket to his head
11:19:21 <mrpackethead> in general i perfer to be routed than switched.
11:19:53 <T3sl4> *nod*
11:24:18 <mrpackethead> is there any issue with floating a DC power supply over a some Alakine batterys
11:24:26 <mrpackethead> typical AA batterys
11:24:37 <T3sl4> and connecting it to?
11:24:57 <mrpackethead> small Boost DC/DC converter that will deliver 3.6V
11:25:40 <mrpackethead> I want to have 2 x AA batterys ( thats going to be somewhere between 1.6 and 3.2V depending on where its in its life time )
11:25:45 <T3sl4> i dont get what you mean by "float over"
11:25:51 <T3sl4> is that series or parallel
11:26:16 <mrpackethead> but also have the ability to put an AC/DC supply in there as well
11:26:20 <mrpackethead> if the AC goes away
11:26:25 <mrpackethead> it keeps running on batterys.
11:26:53 <mrpackethead> most of the time is only going to be consuming around 2mA
11:27:10 <T3sl4> so, diodes?
11:28:13 <mrpackethead> not too keen to put diodes on the battery side
11:28:17 <mrpackethead> on the other side, dont' care
11:29:54 <EEVBlog1> New EEVBlog Tweet: Comment GOLD https://t.co/8WWVfit9YH
11:31:50 <Halcyon> Hey Ampera, have you had much to do with flat file databases on Linux?
11:32:05 <Halcyon> I'm after a tool (similar to Microsoft Access) for Linux
11:33:16 <Halcyon> Or even better, a database I can run on a VM and SSH into, it doesn't need to be fancy pants graphics based
11:33:27 <Ampera> Uhhh
11:33:32 <Ampera> what do you need it for?
11:33:49 <Halcyon> Storing client/project/site data for my business
11:36:10 <Halcyon> Probably some basic accounting too eventually
11:38:37 <mrpackethead> tryed Mysql?
11:39:00 <mrpackethead> oh you want a no sql database
11:39:32 <mrpackethead> Mongo then
11:39:55 <Ampera> aight I'm back
11:39:59 <EEVBlog1> New EEVBlog Tweet: RT @user42: @eevblog Meme it is. https://t.co/OQrjZCIm9K
11:40:00 <Ampera> sorry Halcyon, I was getting raped in the ear
11:40:41 <Ampera> It honestly depends on what you want to store, but the easiest thing that is secure and hard to fuck up is a directory/text file storage system.
11:40:53 <Ampera> It's easily encrypted, can store basic information, and is impossible to break
11:40:59 <EEVBlog1> New EEVBlog Tweet: RT @TCurrentSource: @eevblog Did someone order a meme? https://t.co/MFM56xgwCo
11:41:27 <Ampera> When I need to store information like that, I never look for complicated or database solutions, I always pick the simplest way that will work
11:41:55 <Halcyon> The only thing is I need to do validation and cross-referencing
11:42:01 <Ampera> define both
11:43:34 <Ampera> Whatever you need to do there's probably a way to do it, it just depends on exactly what you need.
11:44:16 <Halcyon> Well, Client IDs link to multiple project, site IDs and invoice numbers
11:44:32 <Halcyon> Each value is unique so validation needs to happen to avoid conflicts
11:44:38 <Ampera> File hierarchies and symlinks
11:44:42 <Ampera> and just keeping things clean
11:45:05 <Halcyon> I also need to be able to report on it based on a number of criteria, including dates
11:45:07 <Ampera> A lot of what you need can probably be scripted
11:45:24 <Halcyon> For example: How much was earned in a given month/year/date range
11:45:50 <Ampera> I mean something like LibreOffice Calc is good with that, which is just Excel
11:46:04 <Halcyon> Yes, which I'm currently using
11:46:32 <Ampera> What's wrong with it?
11:47:47 <mrpackethead> sounds like a job for a relational database
11:47:53 <Halcyon> mrpackethead, yup
11:48:09 <mrpackethead> mysql is free
11:48:13 <mrpackethead> and well supported
11:48:16 <Halcyon> Ampera, it's fine for storing data, but sorting, reporting and validating it is not the job for a spreadsheet
11:48:17 <mrpackethead> and 'works'
11:48:51 <Ampera> Halcyon, if I were you and you were me, I would use a file structure system, and write some sort of program to manage that data for me in the way I needed.
11:48:55 <Halcyon> The problem is mrpackethead, I'm not a programmer or DBA. I need a WYSIWYG type of DB tool. I know the basics, enough to troubleshoot code, but I don't want to be starting from scratch
11:49:41 <Halcyon> Years and years ago I used Q&A back in the DOS days
11:49:47 <Halcyon> That's as complicated as I'd like to make it
11:49:58 <Ampera> I'm probably not the right guy to ask for this, because my solution is complicated and not good for you, and I have no experience with databases.
11:50:19 <Halcyon> BRB, need to poop :)
11:50:34 <mrpackethead> Halcyon, you use Mysql Workbench
11:51:01 <mrpackethead> and it lets you have the 'visual' gui type thing that lets you set everyhing up
11:51:20 <Ampera> Yeah if you need a graphical easy to use thing, what mrpackethead said is your best bet
11:51:25 <Ampera> I've used it before, it's alright for what you'd need
11:52:03 <mrpackethead> https://www.mysql.com/products/workbench/
11:52:37 <mrpackethead> I have lots of python based scripts running against my db
11:52:56 <mrpackethead> but i use Mysqlworkbench when i dont' ahve a script or need to sort something out
11:53:13 <mrpackethead> still thre is some learning
11:58:30 <Halcyon> Mmmm, I might look at that
11:58:38 <Halcyon> Thanks
12:06:38 <mrpackethead> I have migrated my db to aws
12:06:49 <mrpackethead> and i now just buy a db instance from them
12:07:01 <mrpackethead> so i dont' need to worry about backups/udpates blah blah blah
12:07:11 <mrpackethead> and they make it highly avaialble and all that drama
12:07:13 <Ampera> I run a DB for my forums only
12:07:17 <Ampera> I don't like databases all that much
12:07:25 <Ampera> I find they overcomplicate otherwise simple data
12:07:58 <mrpackethead> if you have simple data without relationships then that can be true
12:08:26 <mrpackethead> lots of 'big-data' projects use so called 'no-sql databases' for that exact reasons
12:10:01 <mrpackethead> both have plus's and minuses
12:11:30 <Ampera> all I wanna do is sftp into my porn folder :(
12:12:08 <Halcyon> Heheh
12:12:20 <Ampera> How is your company going, Halcyon?
12:15:43 <mrpackethead> i think its flat
12:15:50 <mrpackethead> or is that just his database
12:17:15 <EEVBlog1> New EEVBlog Tweet: Even The Onion couldn't make this up https://t.co/9slqtGAsDN
12:29:38 <Halcyon> It's getting there slowly
12:29:57 <Halcyon> We're slightly expanding our scope a little in response to demand
12:30:17 <Halcyon> I got asked to lecture last week on a Master's course
12:30:24 <Halcyon> (Which is why I was in Canberra)
12:33:43 <steve30> i didn't have much luck getting to sleep
12:34:00 Quit: Bluenote ([email protected]) Quit: Leaving
12:34:02 <Halcyon> Aww :( You need someone to rub your head. I love people playing with my hair
12:35:19 <steve30> I need a cuddly kitten to purr me to sleep :)
12:35:24 <Halcyon> Stupid cats
12:35:42 <Halcyon> I would say cats belong outside, but then they kill birds and possums etc...
12:35:51 <Halcyon> So they should be banished
12:37:47 <steve30> kittens make awesome cuddle buddies
12:44:27 * steve30 curls up on Halcyon's lap
12:44:39 <Halcyon> Guys make better cuddle buddies :P
12:50:31 <EEVBlog1> New EEVBlog Tweet: RT @NASA: This March, our @MarsCuriosity rover saw not one but two solar eclipses, by two different moons! 👀 The views it captured of tiny…
12:51:30 <EEVBlog1> New EEVBlog Tweet: I'd really love to crack 1000 subs on @bitchute You know you want to.... https://t.co/0Pp4aVTaZG
12:51:44 <steve30> Dave is twittering a lot today
12:52:16 <Halcyon> Maybe he is bored while his office gets fixed
12:56:22 <Ampera> I'm completely bored, I haven't had anything to do for days upon days.
12:56:30 <Ampera> It's actually starting to get painful
12:56:38 <steve30> I hate boredom
12:57:07 <Halcyon> :(
12:57:08 <Ampera> Yeah try a year of literally having nothing to do
12:57:14 * steve30 pokes Halcyon with his 5.25 inches
12:57:26 <Halcyon> How modest :P
12:57:37 <Halcyon> Although it is soft
12:57:39 <Halcyon> ;-)
12:58:02 <steve30> Its rather floppy
12:58:09 <Ampera> y'all are gay
12:58:24 <Halcyon> I include you in that too Ampera
12:59:39 <steve30> I wonder what I'll do with a whopping 100K of storage
13:00:11 <Ampera> porn.
13:00:36 <Halcyon> ASCII Porn
13:00:51 <Ampera> PETSCII porn is better
13:00:59 <Halcyon> Heh
13:03:33 <steve30> The disks might be floppy, but the drive is nice and sturdy :)
13:03:34 <steve30> http://stevecoates.net/photos/bbc/bbcfloppy01.JPG
13:09:22 <steve30> I'm going to go back to bed.
13:25:22 <Halcyon> Goodnight Steve
13:32:47 <EEVBlog1> New EEVBlog Tweet: NEW Video on EEVblog2! Contacting Telstra Support About Blocking Bitchute https://t.co/llUDyN4fFy
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14:34:45 <Halcyon> Back soon, installing some new NICs in my gateway
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16:09:26 * Halcyon sneezes all over the channel
16:09:34 * Halcyon wipes T3sl4 off
16:09:45 * Ampera slaps Halcyon like the fat cunt he is
16:09:51 <Halcyon> I'm not even fat?
16:09:58 <Ampera> your cunt is
16:10:12 <Halcyon> My man cunt is perky
16:10:31 <Ampera> I make pancakes for dinner today
16:10:36 <Halcyon> Oooh
16:10:41 <Halcyon> With syrup?
16:10:53 <Ampera> No with PAIN and TORTURE
16:11:01 <Halcyon> Sounds fattening
16:11:12 <Ampera> mmm fat
16:11:23 <Halcyon> You should try Pain Lite
16:11:29 <Halcyon> It won't go to your thighs
16:11:46 <Ampera> my thighs are perfect ya bulb
16:11:58 <Halcyon> I can't wait until you're 18 ;-)
16:12:11 <Halcyon> Also, LOL @ "bulb"
16:12:17 <Halcyon> You and your words
16:12:22 <Ampera> Why can't you wait until I'm 18?
16:12:31 <Halcyon> Nothing, I was making a sex joke
16:12:31 <Halcyon> :P
16:12:46 <Ampera> but you're gay
16:12:53 <Halcyon> Yes, and you're man
16:13:10 <Ampera> might not look like one for much longer
16:13:11 <Ampera> but idk
16:13:27 <Halcyon> steve30, you still asleep?
16:13:55 <Halcyon> Hehe, yes, well, you can be the "chick" if that makes you feel better
16:14:04 <Ampera> and what is that supposed to mean
16:14:10 <Halcyon> Don't worry :P
16:14:17 <Halcyon> I'm kidding, just taking it slightly too far
16:14:21 <Ampera> Don't worry, that sounds sarcastic
16:14:25 <Ampera> THAT MEANS I SHOULD WORRY
16:14:30 <Ampera> I'M WORRIED
16:14:34 <Ampera> WHUT DO YOU MEAAAN
16:14:38 <Halcyon> Don't worry, you aren't my type
16:14:58 <Halcyon> I was insinuating that you would be the bottom
16:15:00 <Ampera> you're USB and I'm RS232
16:15:13 <Ampera> women can be the top or the bottom
16:15:19 <Halcyon> Well, both are serial :P
16:15:19 <Ampera> that's how that works
16:15:28 <Halcyon> Also, I'd be RS232 since I'm older
16:15:29 <Ampera> man I wish I could have serial
16:15:32 <Ampera> but I eat all the milk
16:15:40 <Halcyon> Cereal?
16:15:50 <Ampera> Did I fucking say cereal?
16:15:58 <Halcyon> I don't know what you're saying
16:16:10 <Ampera> Good, then could you explain it to me? I don't know either.
16:16:20 <Halcyon> *shrug*
16:17:19 <Halcyon> I should go pack the dishwasher. Back shortly...
16:28:06 <EEVBlog1> New EEVBlog Tweet: Someone couldn't calculate 100sqm... And everything is covered in a layer of concrete dust. https://t.co/BQ1pBAcERg
16:30:01 <Halcyon> Back
16:37:12 * Ampera pets Halcyon
16:37:21 <Halcyon> :)
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18:09:41 <T3sl4> Halcyon: he's implying that your download will be very much faster.
18:10:03 <Halcyon> Hm?
18:10:11 <T3sl4> USB > 232
18:10:32 <Halcyon> Oh I see :P
18:10:41 <Halcyon> *smirk*
18:14:34 <Halcyon> Also, T3sl4: https://auspost.com.au/mypost/track/#/details/CF126449474AU
18:14:43 <Halcyon> My package to Stuart Ashen
18:15:17 <T3sl4> oh
18:16:21 <Halcyon> It's on the place as of today \o/
18:17:36 <Halcyon> *plane
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19:53:46 * Halcyon prods DogWomble
19:54:03 <DogWomble> hey Halcyon
19:54:07 <Halcyon> What's doing?
19:54:22 <DogWomble> jsut watching grand tour
19:54:23 <DogWomble> you?
19:55:06 <Halcyon> Just making din dins
19:55:11 <Halcyon> Got Chicken Korma on the stove
19:55:33 <DogWomble> sounds nommy
19:55:53 <Halcyon> Hopefully
19:55:54 <Halcyon> :)
20:00:26 <steve30> hi
20:05:03 <K> whats a din-din?
20:33:51 <Halcyon> Dinner
20:33:57 <Halcyon> Hey Steve :)
20:34:39 <Halcyon> Oh steve30, answer me this...
20:34:42 <Halcyon> What's a "bap" ?
20:35:57 <steve30> a breadcake
20:36:59 <Halcyon> In this context? https://youtu.be/60_oMY5ULIw?t=54
20:37:57 <steve30> yes, the breadcake shown on the tin could be considered a bap
20:39:08 <Halcyon> I see
20:42:11 * steve30 hugs Halcyon
20:46:41 <steve30> I need to sort my bike out for tomorrow
20:50:25 <Halcyon> :)
20:50:30 <Halcyon> What's up with your bike?
20:50:41 <steve30> nothing, just needs cleaning
20:58:11 * steve30 hugs Halcyon some more
20:58:13 <steve30> I'm tired
21:10:55 * Halcyon burps
21:11:04 <Halcyon> Mmm tastes like Korma
21:11:53 <K> Kormacoma
21:13:03 <Halcyon> Pretty much
21:15:06 <Halcyon> I'm almost 50% through with my backusp
21:15:06 <Halcyon> YAY!
21:21:09 <DogWomble> i need to give my bike a bit of a clean as well
21:21:27 <DogWomble> the rear derailleur has a nice paste of dust from the track i ride and chain lube
22:27:21 <steve30> well, that's a bit cleaner than it was
22:29:02 <Halcyon> Did you blow out you cobwebs Steve ? ;-)
22:29:09 <Halcyon> *your
22:36:46 <steve30> hehe
23:13:06 <EEVBlog1> New EEVBlog Tweet: Holy bullet-time Batman! https://t.co/1Vt3rUaBKY
23:25:12 <EEVBlog1> New EEVBlog Tweet: Hey @neonrated When is Apollo 11 going to be released in Australia?
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