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01:11:49 <Nothing\> hello hello
01:11:49 <EEVBlog> Hello there, Nothing\!
01:11:58 <Nothing\> hey robutt
01:12:53 <Nothing\> man for some reason the playstation online store won't take my credit/debit card, it keeps trying to tell me the number's wrong
01:13:24 <Nothing\> probably a good thing anyways, i'm trying to save money and find myself constantly dipping into my savings for this and that, and i've only just started saving
01:14:34 <Nothing\> at least i can finally deal with this urge to play hotshots golf lol
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01:33:04 <Nothing\> ugh this game's taking fovere to install
01:47:59 <Nothing\> omg i'm so dumb
01:48:54 <Nothing\> i've got this endonist appointment which i thought was at 12:30, but my mom's helping her elderly parents with a doctor's appointment and won't be home until right at 12:30 so here we were freaking out thinking it was all gonna be rushed, if we even make it on time
01:49:17 <Nothing\> turns out the dentist appointment is for 13:30, not 12:30, my 13 just looked like a 12 lol
01:50:03 <Nothing\> whew thank the good dude i don't have to worry anymore
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07:54:00 <DHess_US> Falcon Heavy launch again, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpX16SePpVA
08:40:10 <Lartza> Absolute madlads
08:44:34 <DHess_US> All three boosters recovered.
08:53:47 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: So much for GPS rollover affecting old GPS units, seems to work fine https://t.co/Jn08M7UHl5
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10:03:00 <Halcyon> Morning
10:05:34 <Ampera> mourning
10:05:43 <Halcyon> :)
10:07:21 <Halcyon> Water is boiling, almost coffee time
10:12:49 <Ampera> pizza has been eaten
10:12:50 <Ampera> almost bedtime
10:12:56 <Halcyon> Awww
10:12:56 <Ampera> ya upside down hippie
10:13:10 <Halcyon> Hehehe
10:13:15 <Halcyon> You love me
10:13:41 <Ampera> you're damn right you fat fag
10:14:03 <Halcyon> Hahah I'm not fat
10:17:09 <Halcyon> What meats did you have on your pizza?
10:21:22 <Ampera> mushroom and bacon
10:21:34 <DHess_US> mushroom is not a meat
10:21:35 <Halcyon> I'm surprised you eat mushroom
10:26:21 <Ampera> why
10:26:22 <Ampera> mushrooms are awesome
10:26:47 <Halcyon> Because a lot of people don't like them and plus you don't like veg
10:26:54 <DHess_US> I pick them off if I cannot get a pizza without them.
10:27:00 <Ampera> mushrooms aren't vegetables
10:27:12 <Ampera> nor are they like vegetables in pretty much any way
10:27:20 <Ampera> and people who hate mushrooms are fucking stupid
10:27:37 <Halcyon> They are in the same "category" of non-meat and non-grain and non-dairy
10:27:47 <Ampera> no they aren't
10:27:52 <Halcyon> They totally are
10:27:54 <Ampera> they are in their own category
10:28:02 <Ampera> and to what authority do you derive that?
10:28:06 <Halcyon> A tomato isn't a vegetable either but they are still used "as" a vegetable
10:28:19 <Ampera> Yes but mushrooms aren't used like vegetables either
10:28:30 <Halcyon> In what way are they not?
10:29:30 <Ampera> mushrooms are usually either used a flavourants, in which case they are more akin to herbs, or as toppings/integral parts of dishes, in ways not akin to vegetables.
10:30:03 <Ampera> They do not taste anything like vegetables, unlike vegetable retain their texture even after hours and hours of cooking, tend to be considerably more fragrant than vegetables, and do not have any similar textures to vegetables.
10:30:08 <Halcyon> I disagree, I think mushrooms and vegetables are used in the same way as vege's can be "flavourants" too, it's not just about adding bulk to food.
10:30:53 <Ampera> Bacon is used as a flavourant, but I specifically mean that mushrooms can often have rather acute flavours, whereas vegetables tend to be more mild
10:30:56 <Halcyon> Depends on the vegetable, things like zucchini and eggplant are very "meaty" in texture
10:31:12 <Ampera> I've had both of them, they're nothing like mushrooms.
10:31:25 <Halcyon> Depends how you cook (or over-cook) them
10:31:32 <Ampera> Regardless of how they are used, the original inquiry was if it was rational to predict me hating them based on me disliking most vegetables
10:31:43 <Halcyon> I think it's a fair assumption
10:31:45 <Ampera> and considering how they taste and feel nothing like any other vegetable
10:31:51 <Ampera> it's not a fair assumption
10:31:56 <Halcyon> Well I think it is :P
10:32:08 <Ampera> They are a wholly unique concept, and exist in their own culinary category of fungus
10:32:15 <Halcyon> I understand that
10:32:42 <Ampera> I've never seen someone put vegetables, besides peppers and maybe onions on a pizza.
10:33:06 <Halcyon> But when you're talking about a "vegetable" based dish or even a salad, it's safe to assume that mushrooms would form part of that (depending on what you're making).
10:33:29 <Ampera> I've never seen mushrooms in a salad
10:33:44 <Ampera> most vegetable casseroles I've seen do not usually include mushrooms
10:33:45 <Halcyon> I put heaps on, capsicum, tomato, olives, baby spinach, onions, mushrooms...
10:33:57 <Ampera> and vegetable and mushroom broths are usually mutually exclusive concepts.
10:34:18 <Ampera> so peppers, something that's not a vegetable, but is part of the sauce, a vegetable, a vegetable, and something I've already said, and not a vegetable.
10:35:02 <Halcyon> *nod* which brings me to my point, commonly when "vegetable" is used, it's not out of the realm to include mushrooms into that (just like capsicum or tomato)
10:35:23 <Ampera> Honestly all we're doing is comparing subjective lists.
10:35:30 <Halcyon> You don't have a "Vegetable soup with tomatos and capsicum"
10:35:37 <Ampera> Mushrooms are not vegetables in a culinary fashion and are used in unique and dissimilar manners.
10:35:50 <Ampera> You don't have a vegetable soup with mushrooms either.
10:35:56 <Ampera> you have a mushroom soup, which may include vegetables
10:35:59 <Halcyon> I know, and whilst you're technically correct, I'm speaking from a "what's commonly acceptable" point of view.
10:36:04 <Ampera> with the distinction being what the broth is being made up of.
10:36:17 <Ampera> What's commonly acceptable is not only subjective and regional, it's also hearsay.
10:36:23 <DHess_US> The USSC decided. Tomatos are vegitables.
10:37:04 <Halcyon> Why not, mushrooms go well in a soup? They impart flavour (depending on the mushroom, something like a shiitake is nice) but they also absorb a lot of flavour from the stock
10:37:31 <Ampera> The issue is that mushroom soup is it's own exclusive concept
10:37:35 <Ampera> as opposed to vegetable soup
10:37:46 <Halcyon> Well the same can be said for pumpkin soup
10:37:51 <Halcyon> Or potato soup
10:37:55 <Halcyon> Or pea soup
10:37:55 <Halcyon> ...
10:38:14 <Halcyon> It doesn't exclude them from the broad "vegetable" category
10:38:21 <Ampera> If anything, that further proves how mushrooms are not vegetables, as vegetables usually make up parts of broths, like beef, chicken, and pork broths, but mushrooms are not usually expected.
10:38:33 <Ampera> Pumpkins are fruits
10:38:37 <Ampera> potatoes are starches, not vegetables
10:38:44 <Halcyon> Depends on the broth. I've used mushrooms alone to make a broth in cooking
10:38:51 <Ampera> That is mushroom broth
10:38:53 <Halcyon> Usual asian dishes
10:39:00 <Ampera> just like you'd use beef or chicken alone to make a broth
10:39:08 <Ampera> but sometimes they include vegetables, but mushrooms is not a common thing to add to them
10:39:24 <Halcyon> (Also, tomato is a fruit, not sure what the USSC are on about)
10:39:28 <Ampera> unlike celery, carrots, and similar concepts like starches (beans, potatoes, corn)
10:40:02 <Ampera> If you want to get really technical, peas aren't vegetables either, they are within the same category as corn and beans.
10:40:12 <Halcyon> Yep
10:40:21 <Halcyon> As I said in the broad category of vegetables
10:40:32 <Halcyon> Which is why I have no problems including all those foods (including mushrooms) as a veg.
10:40:45 <Ampera> I do.
10:40:48 <Halcyon> :)
10:40:54 <Ampera> Potatoes, corn, beans, and mushrooms are not vegetables.
10:41:10 <Halcyon> Yes, but you are a pedant
10:41:13 <Ampera> Otherwise your chips would be vegetables, your cornbread would be vegetables, and baked beans would also be vegetables.
10:41:20 <Ampera> and you're shit at debating :P
10:41:27 <Halcyon> I'm not at all
10:41:35 <Halcyon> And I acknowledged you were technically correct
10:41:39 <Halcyon> But in general speaking, you're wrong
10:41:43 <Ampera> Which is why you are shit at debating
10:41:47 <Ampera> a real debator never gives in
10:41:59 <Halcyon> I haven't given in, I've finished saying what I had to say
10:42:06 <Ampera> which is giving in
10:42:06 <Ampera> so I win
10:42:10 <Halcyon> Hahaha
10:42:11 <Halcyon> You're a dag
10:42:24 <Ampera> I presume you mean fag
10:42:32 <Halcyon> No, I mean dag, but yeh fag works too
10:42:50 <Ampera> you're a ten penny bitch
10:43:10 <Halcyon> Dag = 2. Someone who is daggy, i.e. uncool. This can be meant insultingly or affectionately. (Much like that other well-known Australianism, "you old bastard".) On the face of it, it's an insult, but there are ways in which it is seen as admirable to be a dag – having one's own style, not caring for public opinion, being outrageous, being a source of friendly amusement, being original.
10:43:45 <Ampera> I honestly can't think of any american profanities or insults that you wouldn't get and understand.
10:43:57 <Ampera> It would have to be something really old and obscure, and probably racist
10:44:00 <Halcyon> Nah they are mostly universal
10:44:12 <Ampera> Nobody in the US has ever heard of dag
10:44:39 <Halcyon> That's why I like the Queen's English in a way, they have lots of words which don't get used a lot here and their insults sound kind of cute.
10:45:26 <Ampera> I mean I could do internet slang, like calling you a normie
10:45:29 <Ampera> which you may or may not get
10:45:35 <DHess_US> I know one. "Dude!"
10:45:37 <Halcyon> *shrug*
10:45:40 <Halcyon> Dude?
10:45:59 <Halcyon> I wouldn't call myself a normie at all
10:46:11 <Ampera> that's A. not an insult B. not an Americanism
10:46:11 <Halcyon> I don't tend to follow trends or fads
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10:46:27 <Ampera> I'd say you're probably 1/3 normie
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10:46:30 <Halcyon> "Dude" is common here
10:46:49 <Halcyon> It generally gives the impression that you're either young or a bit uneducated.
10:47:04 <Halcyon> No more than 1/4
10:47:22 <Ampera> Dude is normal everyday slang here.
10:47:33 <DHess_US> Just be generic. INSULT.
10:47:52 <Halcyon> Dude was everywhere in the 80's and 90's. Now unless you're talking to a surfer or skater you generally don't hear it
10:48:01 <Ampera> My favourite insult, which is far from an Americanism, is cunt, along with its derivatives
10:48:08 <Halcyon> Yeh cunt is always good
10:48:10 <Ampera> like fat cunt, daft cunt, thick cunt, massive cunt
10:48:29 <Halcyon> But as with all Aussie insults, even the harshest insult can be used affectionately
10:48:33 <Ampera> One which is unique to a more concise sect of the internet, which you can probably get is Auschwistic.
10:49:02 <Halcyon> I affectionately call my best friend a dickhead
10:49:13 <Ampera> I've never heard you call me a dickhead...
10:49:26 <DHess_US> http://bash.org/?23396
10:49:57 <Ampera> what the fuck is that, DHess_US
10:50:05 <Halcyon> Yes, but you're an actual dickhead. It's like calling a retarded person "retard".
10:50:05 <Halcyon> :P
10:50:07 <Halcyon> ;-)
10:50:22 <Ampera> I'm not sure if that counts as avoiding my trap or not
10:50:33 <Halcyon> Consider it avoided
10:50:51 <Ampera> I'm also retarded, but alright
10:50:53 <Halcyon> DHess_US, "WORDS OF PRAISE FOR FISHFOOD" ?
10:51:23 <DHess_US> You guys must be new to IRC.
10:51:29 <Ampera> Dear cod you're thick
10:51:43 <DHess_US> Don't flounder.
10:51:46 <Halcyon> DHess_US, I've been on IRC since the mid 1990's :P
10:51:54 <Ampera> DHess_US, just for that I'm gonna do it for the halibut.
10:52:00 <Halcyon> Oh gawd
10:52:05 <Halcyon> Here come the dad jokes
10:52:06 <DHess_US> You should scale your responses.
10:52:20 <Ampera> Halcyon, I ain't finished yet.
10:52:25 <Halcyon> I know
10:52:47 <Ampera> DHess_US, it's a slippery slope
10:52:52 <DHess_US> If this keeps up, you may be the sole person here.
10:53:15 <Ampera> I think that's a bassless assumption
10:53:36 <DHess_US> Speared you, did it?
10:54:06 <Ampera> All it did is make me shark for the good ol' days
10:54:28 <Halcyon> I think my "dag" comment was accurate
10:54:49 <Ampera> Halcyon, oh don't get all guppy on me Halcyon
10:54:56 <Halcyon> Hahaha
10:54:57 <DHess_US> I pitty whoever has to trawl though this.
10:54:58 <Halcyon> I like that one
10:55:16 <DHess_US> Couldn't you think of anything batter?
10:55:26 <Halcyon> I wish you two with quit all this carping
10:55:34 <Halcyon> *would
10:55:40 <DHess_US> I'm just going to reel them off.
10:55:56 <Ampera> I think it's time to go onto fresher waters, right folks?
10:56:09 <Ampera> Maybe I can drop T3sl4 a line and get him in on this.
10:56:11 <DHess_US> Getting tired of being schooled?
10:56:30 <Ampera> DHess_US, not a chance, I see this as a net gain to my wordplay.
10:56:36 <T3sl4> your puns are crappie
10:56:57 <Ampera> come on salmon, cut me some slack
10:57:58 <DHess_US> I've been herring all about you.
10:58:38 <Ampera> Oh great, now you're going all caviar with this shit
10:58:53 <DHess_US> Admit it; you're hooked.
10:59:41 <Ampera> Baited is more like it.
10:59:47 <Ampera> You're just worming your way through this.
11:00:28 <DHess_US> You betta believe it.
11:00:47 <Ampera> I'm getting real salty over this
11:01:03 <Ampera> I hope we're reaching the tail end of this soon
11:01:25 <DHess_US> Just clam down.
11:01:38 <Ampera> I don't think I have the mussel to do that.
11:01:41 <Halcyon> There was a sketch from an Aussie early 1990's comedy show, but I can't find it now :(
11:01:44 <Halcyon> It would have been perfect
11:02:24 <DHess_US> You two are so shellfish.
11:02:48 <Halcyon> This is one of my favourites though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZUwfZxb_04
11:02:59 <Halcyon> No idea how they don't laugh
11:03:08 <Ampera> Getting crabby now, DHess_US?
11:03:24 <Ampera> I bet you I don't laugh a single time
11:04:34 <DHess_US> What was that old fish puns skit that was on Dr. Demento?
11:04:34 <Halcyon> Nah it was from a sketch show called "Fast Forward"
11:04:34 <Halcyon> Given that these guys are both quite straight, they pull off gay very well
11:04:43 <DHess_US> Firefox crashed. Will take a few minutes to load that youtube.
11:04:57 <Ampera> Halcyon, I wasn't aware you could pull off gay
11:05:03 <DHess_US> Then I will find the Dr. Demonto thing.
11:05:32 <Halcyon> ;-)
11:05:50 <Ampera> what is pulling off gay Halcyon
11:06:04 <Halcyon> Acting convincingly
11:06:14 <Ampera> how does one act gay
11:06:31 <Halcyon> Like those guys
11:06:46 <Ampera> what happens if someone is a homosexual and doesn't act like those guys
11:06:48 <Ampera> are they not gay?
11:07:00 <Halcyon> So someone like me?
11:07:10 <Ampera> I said someone who doesn't act like those guys
11:07:14 <Halcyon> :P
11:07:17 <Halcyon> Bitch
11:07:45 <DHess_US> I can't even tell what they are saying. Must be British.
11:07:54 <Halcyon> Aussie
11:08:00 <Ampera> I can tell what they're saying, and I get it, it's just not funny
11:08:09 <Halcyon> It's hilarious
11:09:00 <Ampera> it's some fruits squaking
11:09:51 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: First ever image of SUPER-MASSIVE black hole –how big is it? https://t.co/ew0mTC4YYG
11:10:42 <DHess_US> Found it, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l1GvDWtccI
11:10:52 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: NEW EEVblog Video! EEVblog #1200 - BUSTED! - Energizer & Duracell NiMH https://t.co/JnTCDPzRVX
11:12:29 <Halcyon> Wow, this guy puts you two to shame
11:12:48 <DHess_US> I linked him so I get credit.
11:14:52 <Ampera> reminds me of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_p52QJi-Ydo
11:15:50 <Halcyon> It makes me sad that he ruined a perfectly good IBM monitor
11:17:33 <Halcyon> What the fuck is that bolo tie he's wearing?
11:21:01 <Ampera> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-GAbP1U-sU
11:52:10 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Just a coincidence, nothing to see here. https://t.co/QcJC9Auu8f
11:55:12 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: RT @philipbarclay: @eevblog https://t.co/3dsivzLDoT https://t.co/mTvD9CVwjQ
12:01:14 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: RT @mmoyr: What a science journalist's Tweetdeck looks like right now https://t.co/6bJxaOc22r
12:06:16 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: This is the Science section of @Slate The f!@#$%^g SCIENCE section. #BlackHole https://t.co/TIc4HGq0GQ
12:08:17 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: RT @CNET: Watch SpaceX's #FalconHeavy rocket lands its center core on a ship for the first time 🚀 https://t.co/VltoKVaAox
13:30:12 <Ampera> jesus fuck I need aircon
13:30:39 <Ampera> It's 80 in my room
13:30:55 * steve30 puts Ampera in the fridge
13:31:09 <Ampera> I'm gonna get some milk and pizza
14:34:33 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Well that's a first, a nobel prize winner watches my videos and wants to swing by the lab and the garbage room while in town.
15:15:19 <Halcyon> Hey boys :)
15:16:56 * Halcyon slaps Ampera with a wet towel
15:17:03 <Ampera> Hi Halcyon
15:17:10 <Ampera> I can play the first notes to Across the Universe
15:18:05 <Halcyon> Nice :)
15:18:14 * Halcyon is not musical at all
15:18:28 <Halcyon> I've tried to learn instruments and I'm just retarded
15:18:56 <Ampera> I'm learning incredibly fast
15:19:15 <Halcyon> Some people just have a knack for it, I don't
15:19:18 <Ampera> Chrords, notes, tuning, and as far as I remember i only picked the stick up around 24 hours ago
15:19:20 <Halcyon> I can't dance either
15:19:27 <Ampera> I used to take ballet
15:19:37 <Ampera> I've even performed twice in a local rendition of The Nutcracker.
15:19:38 <Halcyon> Yeh see, you've got creativity
15:19:52 <Ampera> No, creativity doesn't help you with either of those things.
15:19:59 <Ampera> It's extrapolation and understanding instructions
15:20:06 <Halcyon> It absolutely does, especially dance
15:20:12 <Halcyon> I don't have the ability to make up moves
15:20:15 <Ampera> Full instruction following
15:20:18 <Ampera> I can't make up moves either
15:20:25 <Ampera> in terms of improv, I'm useless
15:20:27 <Halcyon> Yes but you can at least fake it
15:20:29 <Ampera> Nope
15:20:33 <Ampera> I can't even fake it
15:20:38 <Halcyon> Sure you can, because you already know some moves
15:20:41 <Ampera> Nope
15:20:48 <Halcyon> People don't need to know it was rote learning
15:20:49 <Ampera> I don't know any moves because A. the classes were YEARS ago
15:21:01 <Ampera> and B, it's full instruction following
15:21:13 <Ampera> There are positions you memorize, and some BASIC moves
15:21:15 <Ampera> but this is ballet
15:21:22 <Ampera> but the sort of, go down to a club and perform a dance
15:21:29 <Ampera> *not the
15:21:32 <Halcyon> I can memorise positions :P
15:21:42 <Ampera> Then you can do 5-7 year old's ballet
15:21:57 * Halcyon positions steve30
15:22:17 <Ampera> I'm currently listening to Return to Sender
15:26:00 <Halcyon> I just updated my South Park collection on Plex
15:26:06 <Halcyon> I now have every episode
15:26:16 <Ampera> ew plex
15:26:49 <Halcyon> It's one of the best systems I've used
15:27:02 <Ampera> any media center that's web based is automatically useless and stupid
15:27:04 <Halcyon> It was painful deal with media centres and regular shared folders
15:27:09 <Halcyon> It's not web based
15:27:30 <Halcyon> It's a standalone client/server application
15:27:32 <Ampera> all it does is overcomplicate video streaming
15:27:40 <Halcyon> But you *can* use a web browser as well
15:27:49 <Halcyon> Not at all, it's made things less complex
15:28:19 <Halcyon> Video's play and automatically transcode regardless of the quality/codec of the original file. So I can even play 4K content on a RPi
15:28:21 <Ampera> does it have full end to end encryption?
15:28:25 <Halcyon> Sure does
15:28:30 <Ampera> what sort
15:28:35 <Ampera> can I use pub/priv key auth
15:29:00 <Halcyon> I'm sure you could? I don't
15:29:05 <Halcyon> It's all set up automatically
15:29:33 <Ampera> My thing is I don't see what advantages it has over SFTP
15:29:56 <Ampera> besides making something that should be simple proprietary with features behind a paywall
15:30:48 <Halcyon> On-the-fly transcoding is the big thing, but the fact that it's also multi-platform and in some cases, requires no client at all. Metadata including art is stored in an SQL database, as is show/series progress
15:31:05 <Ampera> Why do you need on the fly transcoding though
15:31:34 <Ampera> I've used fairly iffy internet connections over SFTP, and even with the overhead, it's never had an issue
15:31:45 <Halcyon> If I'm away from home and I don't have the bandwidth available to watch the original stream or, if the machine I'm using can't support the bitrate, it auto-negotiates a rate (or a I can manually set it)
15:31:58 <Halcyon> Which means all my original files can be in the highest available quality, but it will play on everything
15:33:11 <Halcyon> Better still, it's not cloud based so it doesn't require plex.tv to be up or even exist
15:33:20 <Halcyon> The server runs on a machine in my rack
15:34:06 <Ampera> My setup has one program, the config can be set up in 10 minutes if you know what you're doing, and has clients available (that I know of) for Android, Windows, and all modern Unix-likes
15:34:13 <Ampera> (with a POSIX interface)
15:34:29 <Halcyon> Kew
15:34:32 <Ampera> I can immediately stream or completely download videos, and it needs no fancy anything
15:34:33 <Halcyon> So does mine :)
15:34:53 <Halcyon> I'm just saying, I tried the whole file/folder sharing thing before, it was painful
15:35:15 <Halcyon> Multiple databases for storing metadata, connection issues, codec mismatches. It was just meh
15:35:17 <Ampera> I was actually talking to enhanox about this in AfterNET, I've been doing it this way since I was 11 years old or so.
15:35:27 <Ampera> I store no metadata besides what's there.
15:35:35 <Ampera> The frontend is a file explorer
15:35:43 <Halcyon> I like metadata. Everything from cover art to episode names/numbers
15:35:43 <Ampera> and codecs are reliant on the client having them
15:35:52 <Ampera> I have episode names and numbers, but no art
15:36:06 <Ampera> the advantage here is I don't have to run nor maintain a complicated SQL database
15:36:21 <Halcyon> I'm not a DBA, I don't know much about SQL and even I can set it up
15:36:53 <Ampera> the point is I don't need to at all
15:37:00 <Halcyon> I like having my entire collection in my pocket with needing to carry around media or worry about VPNs or certs.
15:37:05 <Ampera> The entire server-side of it runs using 1 program.
15:37:07 <Halcyon> Yeh and that's fine
15:37:17 <Halcyon> But this works for me, your solution wouldn't.
15:37:28 <Ampera> but I want to complain about it anyways
15:37:31 <Ampera> because I like complaining about things
15:37:34 <Ampera> and arguing with you
15:37:40 <Ampera> because you're fun to argue with
15:37:45 <Halcyon> There is no way I could play a 25GB movie over the NBN
15:37:58 <Halcyon> Or over a weak cellular connection
15:38:01 <Ampera> None of my movies are anywhere near that.
15:38:18 <Halcyon> Most of mine are native M2TS files off Bluray
15:38:23 <Halcyon> (Decrypted of course)
15:38:39 <Ampera> Wrath of Khan, 1080p BluRay rip, 1.8GB
15:39:41 <Halcyon> Meh, I avoid re-compression where possible
15:39:47 <Halcyon> It mostly looks like shit
15:39:53 <Ampera> This looks perfect
15:40:26 <Halcyon> Like with audio, lossy/compressed artefacts annoy me
15:42:42 <T3sl4> Ampera: give this riff a try :P https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edqH0ofRQrM
15:43:47 <T3sl4> well, these*
15:43:48 <Ampera> I can't even do Across the Universe's opening in time
15:44:02 <Ampera> my goal is to one day be able to do a little bit of Jessica
15:44:45 <T3sl4> in time, is key :)
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16:21:59 <Halcyon> Well, my machine didn't like that
17:09:55 <Ampera> Halcyon, what did you do to it?
17:10:31 <Halcyon> I tried to scan a photo at 2400dpi
17:10:38 <Halcyon> It just locked up
17:10:58 <Ampera> how the fuck do you do that
17:11:05 <Ampera> what tool were you using
17:12:54 <Halcyon> Simple Scan
17:13:04 <Ampera> Is the scanner configured using SANE?
17:13:12 <Halcyon> NFI
17:13:17 <Ampera> I'm not sure what else it would be using, but to start with the basics
17:13:18 <Halcyon> I just connected it and it works
17:13:19 <Ampera> NFI?
17:13:25 <Ampera> oh no fucking idea
17:13:40 <Ampera> Presumably that means it's using SANE, and that you have it installed.
17:13:51 <Halcyon> I didn't have to install any drivers
17:13:57 <Ampera> do: scanimage --format=png > test.png
17:14:45 <Ampera> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SANE#Verification Essentially do what is in this section.
17:14:53 <Ampera> to use the command line tool, to narrow down the issue
17:15:25 <Ampera> afaik it should scan at highest DPI, but if that still crashes, that means you likely have a malformed driver of some sort that's crashing the machine
17:20:12 <Halcyon> Oh the scanner has worked fine before, I usually just use it for documents
17:20:29 <Halcyon> But this time I wanted to up the DPI to max. I actually should check to see if it supports it first
17:20:39 <Halcyon> It might only be a 1200dpi scanner for all I know
17:25:10 <Halcyon> BRB. Need to reboot ESXi.
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17:30:34 <Ampera> Yeah I know he's an ass
17:30:37 <Halcyon> :P
17:30:37 <Ampera> but what are you gonna do
17:30:49 <steve30> hi
17:30:52 <Ampera> >:(
17:30:59 <Halcyon> Hey Steve :) Bit early to be up isn't it?
17:31:36 <Ampera> no, isn't it about 8 there?
17:32:53 <steve30> nah, but I need to go out this morning
17:32:56 <steve30> I'd rather stay in bed
17:34:22 <Halcyon> Nawww
17:34:31 * Halcyon passes Steve a coffee
17:34:39 <Halcyon> (followed by a morning grope)
17:35:11 <Ampera> if IRC was real life Halcyon probably would have groped, fondled, and otherwise raped more people than anyone else in history.
17:35:24 <Halcyon> Indeed
17:35:34 <Halcyon> And T3sl4 would no longer be a man-virgin
17:35:54 <Ampera> T3sl4 is a virgin?
17:36:00 <Halcyon> With men he is
17:36:03 <Halcyon> I'm guessing?
17:36:06 <Ampera> oh
17:36:09 <Halcyon> Unless he has had a circle jerk before?
17:36:11 <Ampera> in other words he's perfectly normal
17:36:12 <Ampera> unlike you
17:36:19 <Halcyon> Damn right unlike me
17:36:25 <Ampera> ya freak
17:36:29 <Halcyon> I've never done anything with a female though
17:37:01 <Ampera> mmm, bell system documentary from 1961
17:37:32 <steve30> mmm, coffee
17:37:36 <Halcyon> Swift change of topic there
17:38:16 * Ampera provides Halcyon with a swift change of attire
17:38:49 <Halcyon> I'm actually more dressed up than usual, I have long pants on
17:38:59 * Ampera pretends to misread pants as penis
17:40:35 <Halcyon> I have a longer penis than normal too
17:40:36 <Halcyon> :P
17:40:43 * steve30 hugs Halcyon
17:40:50 <Halcyon> Aww *cuddles*
17:40:57 <Halcyon> You are so affectionate Steve :)
17:41:06 <Ampera> I both like and hate penises
17:41:09 <Halcyon> T3sl4, just shoves his fingers in places
17:41:13 <steve30> *purr*
17:41:20 <Halcyon> What do you like/hate about them Ampera?
17:41:21 <Ampera> ew ew ew gay
17:41:35 <Ampera> well I like them on other people, with temporary connections to me
17:41:41 <Ampera> I do not like them permanently connected to me
17:41:51 <Halcyon> Very well put
17:42:03 <Ampera> I don't think you catch my cold.
17:42:19 <Halcyon> No, I get it
17:42:45 <Ampera> mmm cold war and explosives in a telephone documentary
17:43:29 <steve30> The hospital replied to my enquiry. Turns out an orthopaedic consultant consultation will cost £200.
17:43:49 <Ampera> 200 pounds just for them to consult a consultant?
17:43:54 <Ampera> why can't the consultant just consult himself?
17:44:00 <Ampera> he is a consultant after all
17:46:46 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: THAT is a Nobel Prize pin! And yep, he's an electronics nerd, vintage HP calc and vintage Tek scope nut. https://t.co/Su9nAPCIGn
17:47:40 <T3sl4> neet
17:48:07 * Ampera touches T3sl4
17:48:42 <Ampera> T3sl4, I have a question for you
17:48:44 <Ampera> are traps gay?
17:48:52 <Halcyon> By the looks of it Dave does an interview video with him
17:49:11 <Ampera> Halcyon, your opinion is also valid here too
17:49:19 <T3sl4> Ampera, yes
17:49:26 <Ampera> indeed
17:49:39 <Halcyon> I don't understand what a trap is
17:49:48 <Ampera> T3sl4, but is it okay to be gay?
17:50:02 <Ampera> Halcyon, I wish to become the best trap I can be, to the point where I'm not even a trap anymore
17:50:11 * Halcyon is confused
17:50:17 * Halcyon hands Ampera a carrot
17:50:18 <T3sl4> Halcyon: shave, and tuck your dick between your legs
17:50:35 <Ampera> I'm not sure if you have a penis, T3sl4, but that doesn't work
17:50:37 <Halcyon> 2
17:50:40 <Halcyon> Oops, wrong window
17:50:45 <Ampera> TWO
17:50:45 <Ampera> TWO?
17:50:48 <Ampera> YA FOOKIN TWO?
17:50:54 * Ampera two's Halcyon in the three
17:50:54 <Halcyon> I'm in a menu via SSH :P
17:51:22 <Ampera> T3sl4 didn't answer, that means a no by forfeit
17:51:29 <Ampera> you heard it here first, Halcyon, it's not okay to be gay
17:51:35 <Halcyon> Lies
17:51:59 <T3sl4> Ampera: it's okay to be a lot of things
17:52:02 <T3sl4> gay is one of them
17:52:08 <T3sl4> Ampera is another one
17:52:10 <Ampera> so gays are things
17:52:14 <Ampera> inanimate objects
17:52:20 <Ampera> Halcyon, you're no better than the chair you are sitting on
17:52:39 <Ampera> Halcyon, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REOrUBT8ZgI
17:52:55 <Halcyon> Ampera: Pretty much
17:53:15 <Ampera> I'm bored, sad, and tired if you can't tell
17:53:22 <Halcyon> Let's play a game of CAH
17:53:29 <Halcyon> steve30, should join us
17:53:33 <Ampera> we need people for that
17:53:41 <Halcyon> Well we have T3sl4 as well ?
17:53:49 <Halcyon> damian ? ibiza ?
17:54:07 * steve30 is afk shortly
17:54:13 <Halcyon> Nothing\ is usually lurking
17:54:18 <Halcyon> Damn you Steve :P
17:54:20 <Ampera> Nothing\, is a queer
17:54:28 <Halcyon> Sweet :)
17:54:34 <Ampera> no not sweet
17:54:44 <Ampera> what part of my incredibly offensive tirade did you not understand
17:54:52 <T3sl4> Ampera, https://i.imgur.com/XYrLe46.jpg
17:54:53 <Ampera> do I have to start over with the hand puppets and electric shocks?
17:54:54 <Halcyon> Queer = Good?
17:55:24 <Ampera> Queer != good
17:55:26 <T3sl4> i got work to do tho, CAH wouldn't be a good fit, sorry gents
17:55:29 <Ampera> Queer = gay
17:55:31 <Ampera> gay = homosexual
17:55:33 <Ampera> homo = same
17:55:38 <Ampera> same = equality
17:55:41 <Ampera> equality = feminism
17:55:42 <Halcyon> You're shit T3sl4
17:55:44 <Ampera> feminism = extremism
17:55:50 <Ampera> extremism = hitler
17:55:55 <T3sl4> Halcyon, you're Ampera
17:55:57 <Ampera> so there, queer = hitler
17:56:05 <Ampera> T3sl4, that's going too far
17:56:11 <T3sl4> i know :(
17:56:12 <Halcyon> Fuck you all and your shitty ass shoes
17:56:14 <Ampera> we're just joking around here, no need to take out the heavy fucking insults
17:56:22 <Ampera> D:<
17:56:25 <T3sl4> at least i'm not the one putting shoes in my ass.
17:56:33 <Halcyon> *grin*
17:56:41 <Ampera> this is why I don't like gay people
17:56:43 <Ampera> myself included
17:57:00 <steve30> gay guys are awesome
17:57:10 <Ampera> [Citation Needed]
17:57:26 <T3sl4> i wonder when the next season comes out
17:57:35 * T3sl4 hi-fives steve30
17:58:10 <Ampera> fucktards on twitter are squealing about STD
17:58:27 <Ampera> legit, The Orville and STD trends have to be fucking paid for
17:58:32 <Halcyon> Steve just says that because he has a large penis
17:58:40 <Ampera> there's no way that people just happen to want to talk about it when a new episode drops
17:58:42 <Halcyon> Boys love him
17:58:47 <Ampera> Halcyon, what about girls?
17:58:52 <Halcyon> Who cares?
17:58:53 <Ampera> ya sexist prick
17:58:55 <Ampera> >:(
17:58:58 <Halcyon> :P
17:58:58 <Ampera> >:((((((
17:59:05 <Halcyon> Steve is homme
17:59:11 <Halcyon> Girls need not apply
17:59:22 <Ampera> man I wish I need not apply
17:59:24 <Ampera> this shit's gay
17:59:38 <steve30> Guys are usually impressed with my penis size
17:59:50 <Ampera> ain't no cock like horse cock
18:00:09 <Halcyon> *grin*
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18:02:26 <mrpackethead> bollocks
18:03:09 <Ampera> You're right on topic mrpackethead
18:03:19 <Halcyon> Ampera is talking about Steve's giant penis
18:03:19 <Ampera> Halcyon and steve30 were talking about penises, and I was talking about how gay is not ok
18:03:32 <Ampera> My penis is small
18:03:42 <Ampera> that will make it easier to shove back inside of me
18:03:50 <Halcyon> Wow, QOTD
18:04:18 <mrpackethead> well, my day was reletively boring in comparsions
18:05:03 <Halcyon> How many penises did you see mrpackethead ?
18:05:07 <Ampera> mrpackethead, even though this day was one of the more interesting of most, I did fuck all
18:05:14 <mrpackethead> Halcyon, just one
18:05:22 <Halcyon> Your own doesn't count
18:05:42 <mrpackethead> well ok, if its in a list, then its index was zero
18:05:45 <Ampera> I strummed gitar, ate pizza, went to store to get a new roasting pan for my pet bunny, and then fucked around on the interwebs for hours
18:05:59 <Halcyon> You ate pizza twice did you not ?
18:06:49 <Ampera> I also fucked around on the computer on and off, but this was not intended to be a temporally or instance correct overview, it was simply intended to list each task, regardless of length, temporal position, or instances.
18:07:56 <Ampera> This is how I wish to future will end up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4OhbzSFpnk
18:08:33 <mrpackethead> i messed around with a fry pan
18:08:44 <Ampera> The clown represents what I wish the internet will eventually do to society, and the terrorist represents the people who fear and destroy free speech and mass communication.
18:09:21 <mrpackethead> https://www.eevblog.com/forum/manufacture/practical-diy-or-modest-cost-vapor-phase-does-it-exist-yet/?action=dlattach;attach=703224;image
18:12:03 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: You betcha I have 50min of impromptu footage shooting the breeze with Nobel Laureate @barjammar Audio not perfect, couldn't find my shotgun at the last minute, but good enough.
18:12:42 <Halcyon> Oh sweet, it looks like our largest mobile telco are currently trialling unlimited data plans on their LTE/5G network
18:12:43 <T3sl4> Ampera, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4CXD5cdhcc
18:13:46 <mrpackethead> T3sl4, the $100 vapour phase
18:15:24 <T3sl4> hm, cool
18:20:02 <mrpackethead> cooling is the problme
18:20:32 <T3sl4> put a steel coil down in the pan, so you can circulate cooling oil?
18:22:40 <mrpackethead> i'm going to do that but with water
18:22:56 <T3sl4> nooooooo
18:23:06 <mrpackethead> yeeeessssss
18:23:11 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: RT @DefendAssange: Pentagon Papers' whistleblower Daniel Ellsberg on Assange arrest: The Beginning of the End For Press Freedom https://t.c…
18:23:20 <T3sl4> it'll never stop boiling
18:23:44 <mrpackethead> i've just got it attached to the mains water
18:24:07 <mrpackethead> going in at about 15C comes out at about 60
18:24:15 <mrpackethead> when its at its hottest
18:24:53 <mrpackethead> gotta make sure though that its not a closed loop!
18:25:05 <mrpackethead> i'm just putting the warm water into the drain
18:25:06 <T3sl4> it'll bump like hell even if it's open
18:25:17 <mrpackethead> no, its pretty good
18:25:29 <mrpackethead> its what iv'e done on the IDEMS
18:25:40 <mrpackethead> and it works nicely
18:25:44 <T3sl4> the whowhat?
18:26:00 <mrpackethead> Oh, i bought a massively overpriced vapourphase from a crowd in Germany
18:26:06 <mrpackethead> which turned out to be a piece of crap
18:26:09 <mrpackethead> but the idea was ok
18:26:37 <mrpackethead> granted he did refund most of the money
19:20:39 <K> hello
19:24:13 <T3sl4> 'lo
19:26:53 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Deciding if I'll edit my 50min interview video to remove any "yep" and "right" 's were possible. I know some like me doing that and some don't like the cuts.
19:43:56 <mikjaer_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7M7CxY8zPCI <- Amstrad CPC 464 turns 35 years old today :D
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20:10:21 <Halcyon> Oh wow
20:10:42 <Halcyon> I have a few Amstrad's here
20:10:49 <Halcyon> Not that old though
20:11:49 * T3sl4 hugs his Amstrad with EGA
20:13:59 * steve30 returns
20:14:41 <steve30> I sucessfully used the self service machine at the post office
20:26:49 <mrpackethead> wonder what will happen when the internet turns 100
20:37:14 <T3sl4> mrpackethead: earth's climate returns to normal
20:44:01 <damian> HEY FRIENDS
20:46:26 <K> HELLO
20:46:26 <EEVBlog> Hello there, K!
20:46:39 <Halcyon> Hey Damo
20:51:20 * T3sl4 slaps damian with a large sack of potatoes
20:51:49 <Halcyon> Any of you guys up for a game of Cards Against Humanity?
20:52:04 <Halcyon> Ampera? DogWomble? T3sl4 (you've done enough work)
20:52:15 <DogWomble> i think i can do that
20:52:24 * T3sl4 takes out one of the potatoes and throws it at Halcyon
20:52:25 <Halcyon> steve30 ?
20:52:33 <Halcyon> Oh come on T3sl4
20:52:36 <Halcyon> Have a break
20:52:40 <Halcyon> Doesn't have to be a long game
20:52:44 <DogWomble> have a kit-kat
20:52:52 <Halcyon> Can't, I'm full of pizza
20:52:56 <DogWomble> :P
20:53:06 <T3sl4> should've broken off a piece of pizza then.
20:53:08 <Halcyon> ServalSpots ?
20:53:33 <Halcyon> damian ?
20:53:46 <Halcyon> Do I honestly have to name everyone?
20:54:55 <T3sl4> hah
20:55:13 <DogWomble> could just set up a CAH shoutotu script to do it for you :P
20:56:51 * Halcyon prods Ampera with a stick
20:57:04 <Halcyon> ibiza ? gremlinz ?
20:57:56 <Halcyon> mrpackethead, join us from NZ ?
21:00:27 * steve30 notes that he's not interested in cards against humanity
21:00:51 <Halcyon> Aw :(
21:01:01 <Halcyon> Not even to have a chat to us?
21:01:05 <K> crabs against humanity
21:01:09 <Halcyon> Or to me :)
21:01:12 <Halcyon> K, you in/
21:01:12 <Halcyon> ?
21:01:17 <T3sl4> Crabs Adjust Humidity
21:02:15 <K> have work, sry
21:02:18 <Halcyon> Come on you lot, quick 10 minute game, is all I'm asking
21:03:11 * T3sl4 pats Halcyon
21:03:21 * Halcyon accepts T3sl4's pats
21:03:25 <T3sl4> there there ;)
21:10:22 <DogWomble> there are pats being handed out?
21:11:57 <Halcyon> On from T3sl4 because he is a horrible person
21:12:09 <Halcyon> I don't think we have enough to do a game :(
21:12:21 * T3sl4 gives DogWomble a star
21:12:24 <T3sl4> a Patrick Star
21:12:32 <DogWomble> a malvern star?
21:13:53 <T3sl4> uh, yeah, sure, whatever
21:14:10 <DogWomble> :P
21:15:09 <DogWomble> can we get at least one more for CAHJ?
21:15:13 <DogWomble> CAH even?? :P
21:17:30 <Halcyon> I'll be watching Full Frontal if anyone wants me
21:17:31 <Halcyon> :)
21:19:06 <DogWomble> full frontal nudity? :P
21:19:17 <Halcyon> The regular kind
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21:27:42 * steve30 ponders coffee
21:32:37 <Stiff> hey Halcyon :)
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21:58:23 * steve30 hugs T3sl4
21:58:41 * T3sl4 brews steve30 a fresh coffee
21:58:48 <steve30> :p
22:03:08 * steve30 purrs
22:06:16 <Halcyon> Hey Stiff
22:07:35 <Halcyon> You would like some of the package I sent to Ashens steve30
22:07:46 <Halcyon> It has 2 types of roasted coffee beans coated in chocolate
22:07:57 <steve30> mmm
22:08:25 <Halcyon> https://auspost.com.au/mypost/track/#/details/CF126449474AU
22:08:32 <Halcyon> And it has been delivered :D
22:08:47 <coppice> that's just what they want you to think
22:09:39 <K> the damn lizards ate your beans, Halcyon
22:09:50 <coppice> you can't get a nice cup of kopi luwak around here
22:09:56 <Halcyon> I'm guessing Coventry is like one of the main distribution hubs?
22:10:16 <Halcyon> It's some 3 hours from Norwich
22:10:17 <K> and then laughed in theiry squaaky voices
22:10:22 <coppice> sending things to Coventry means you never hear from them again
22:10:33 <Halcyon> I sent it to Norwich
22:10:34 <Halcyon> :P
22:10:37 <steve30> https://www.parcelforce.com/track-trace?trackNumber=CF126449474AU
22:10:47 <steve30> Looks like it got delivered to norwich
22:10:52 <Halcyon> YAY!
22:11:15 <steve30> Complete with a new tracking number
22:11:31 <coppice> I hope you put his first name on the package, as so many people in Norwich have the same surname :)
22:11:43 <Halcyon> I put his full name and address :P
22:11:51 <Halcyon> Smartie pants
22:11:57 <steve30> Be sure to give us a link if he shows it. I don't routinely watch ashens
22:12:07 <Halcyon> I also put a Chef Excellence label on the box
22:12:12 <Halcyon> Yeh will do
22:12:24 <coppice> Halcyon: its a running joke in the UK about Norwich and inbreeding
22:12:25 <steve30> "An Excellent Delivery"
22:12:44 <Halcyon> "An Excellent Package"
22:13:06 <coppice> Is this in honour of the new Bill and Ted mopvie?
22:13:13 <Halcyon> Nope
22:13:25 <Halcyon> https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/chef-excellence-an-excellent-x
22:14:20 <Halcyon> I didn't know Stuart Ashen had a doctorate
22:14:22 <Halcyon> There you go
22:14:46 <coppice> They need to doctor more of those people in Norwich
22:14:54 <Halcyon> :P
22:15:55 <coppice> The put hubs in really odd places. Coventry isn't near a major airport, or any particular hot spot on the road network
22:16:25 <gremlinz> ?
22:17:19 <Halcyon> She's alive!
22:17:41 <gremlinz> she?
22:17:58 <Halcyon> *grin*
22:18:10 <Halcyon> Just testing
22:18:50 <steve30> I might go back to bed soon
22:18:58 <Halcyon> It's daytime thought?
22:19:01 <Halcyon> *though
22:19:10 <steve30> but I only slept for two hours earlier
23:06:27 <Halcyon> Hey T3sl4 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxN-H04wrh8
23:07:05 <T3sl4> aww yiss motherfuckin scritches
23:07:44 <Halcyon> :)
23:07:57 <T3sl4> https://imgur.com/gallery/g770buI
23:08:33 <Halcyon> Cute bird
23:08:48 <T3sl4> top comment is apt
23:10:36 <T3sl4> Ampera: https://i.imgur.com/nsIHoeS.png
23:10:42 <T3sl4> Halcyon too probably ;)
23:24:07 * steve30 curls up on T3sl4's lap
23:24:47 * T3sl4 applies scritching
23:25:38 <steve30> :)
23:30:02 <K> https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/10/20/09/2D958D5D00000578-3279197-image-a-8_1445328823050.jpg
23:30:48 <T3sl4> a classic