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26:01 * steve30 returns from the gym
26:18 <steve30> There's a guy there who kinda reminds me of T3sl4
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37:15 <Guest|73718> hi
37:48 <Guest|73718> i want to know about some projects based upon pid
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20:32 <DHess_US> https://slashdot.org/story/19/01/17/1728204/professors-from-7-us-colleges-including-mit-and-stanford-have-teamed-up-to-design-a-cryptocurrency-capable-of-processing-thousands-of-transactions-a-second
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12:21 <mrpackethead> in altium can you set the characteristic impedance of a differential pair
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29:27 <mpu> hi
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30:43 <Ampera> why the hell is the topic Q
31:21 <rust_collector> q is ok....
31:58 <Ampera> Yeah Ilike him, but he's a pretty love or hate character
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01:01 <mrpackethead> .
01:08 <ServalSpots> An excellent point
10:08 <Ampera> •
19:27 <ServalSpots> Now now, simply increasing your volume doesn't help make your point
24:13 <Ampera> █
59:19 <ServalSpots> You've added a few new angles and I'm quite intrigued
01:41 <mrpackethead> how much is enough?
11:40 <ServalSpots> I usually find out some time after I've gone too far
23:56 * T3sl4 buhs
19:42 * ServalSpots inverts T3sl4, thus relieving pressure on the arches
28:22 <T3sl4> hah
30:09 * T3sl4 serves the channel roast salmon
34:23 <T3sl4> ServalSpots: i sɥnq
00:37 <Ampera> ☻
01:05 <T3sl4> hello Ampera
01:15 <Ampera> hullo
29:21 <mrpackethead> Thanks T3sl4, have you tryed salmon poke?
29:57 * T3sl4 pokes mrpackethead
30:09 <mrpackethead> I fear i would not taste good
32:59 <mrpackethead> whats the 'normal' approach for providing multiple voltage rails ( 1.0, 1.8, 2.5, 3.3V ) to a FPGA or other large IC
49:08 <T3sl4> multi output regulator?
56:19 <Ampera> buying an off the shelf PSU and making it someone else's problem?
56:44 * T3sl4 marries Ampera to Voltera
57:11 <Ampera> oh great, arranged marriages
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49:39 <Ampera> My computer desk (Halcyon): https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/310478241989263371/537161347188916225/IMG_20190122_014655.jpg
20:10 <damian> what are those green coloured things in the middle
22:00 <Ampera> optical discs?
22:06 <damian> like.. cds?!
22:34 <Ampera> probably some DVDs in there too, because I just lob my random discs together
22:43 <Ampera> have you never seen a disc spindle before?
22:55 <damian> it's 2019 bro, what are you doing with optical media
23:02 <damian> i thought you were young and hip
23:54 <damian> of course i have, i have several .. but they are all legacy things i can't part with, like old irc logs :P
24:11 <Ampera> Actually up until quite recently I was using DVD+RWs quite a lot
24:13 <damian> i can't say i've touched a cd even for work in about two years .. and in person a lot longer
24:18 <Ampera> then they all mysteriously died
24:18 <damian> wow
24:31 <Ampera> however I still regularly use floppy diskettes
24:37 <damian> for what reason?
24:40 <Ampera> I actually b ought a brand new pack of Verbatims
24:49 <Ampera> to store/transfer data?
24:56 <Ampera> what other reason would one use a floppy disk
24:56 <damian> but to/from what
25:05 <Ampera> computer to computer
25:11 <damian> oh, are you the retro guy
25:23 <Ampera> did you just assume my gender?
25:48 <Ampera> you see this is why I don't have any friends
26:01 <damian> it's not an assumption, it's a statistically founded guess
26:16 <damian> but in saying that, i also call girls guy
26:24 <damian> it comes from watching too much Undergrads when i was younger
26:29 <Ampera> but anyways, I do indeed have a good number of old PCs, and often floppy disks are the easiest way to transfer data when my optical media goes apeshit
26:44 <Ampera> it was a joke anyways
26:50 <damian> ah, that's fair enough. if you're dealing with dated hardware i understand, but for no other reason!
27:13 <Ampera> I used to use optical media for newer machines quite alot until I moved to flash drives, probably in around 2016-2017
27:18 <damian> but really, they don't even have USB?
27:30 <Ampera> Some of them don't even have PCI
27:34 <Ampera> well one of them
28:02 <damian> good ol' ISA ey
28:06 <Ampera> I only have two older PCs that have USB on them, and they are quite often in the back of the machine, since they don't have USB headers
28:11 <Ampera> yes, and VLB
28:58 <damian> dang, what are you running on that old hardware
30:03 <damian> i lived through those days, i don't think you could get me back working on one of them :P
30:30 <Ampera> My set of PC compatibles are as follows by CPU: Am486 DX4-100-SV8B @120Mhz, P5 120 @120Mhz, Pentium Pro 200 @ 233Mhz (crosstalk issues), Pentium MMX 233 @233Mhz (overheat issues), P3 450 @450Mhz, and an Athlon 64 X2 3000+ @???Mhz
30:48 <damian> DX4, priveledged
31:11 <damian> are they all set up in crisp, clean cases on a shelf somewhere, or do you actively use them for something?
31:38 <Ampera> I also have two IBM eServers, XSeries 235 and 325, one with dual 32-bit P4 era Xeons with hyperthreading and PAE support up to 12GB, and another dual AMD (Sempron I think)
32:15 <damian> Semprons were things of legend, if you had one you were rich
32:20 <Ampera> Well they are on the floor, the main reason I have them is for collection, the joy in sourcing the parts and assembling some of the best machines I can make for their era, and occasional playing of games
32:35 <Ampera> I have two of them.
32:36 <damian> you almost just listed off all of the computers i've owned
33:14 <damian> the first was some IBM-Compat XT system, i didn't know enough about computers back then to know what i was looking at, but i remember it had 256k RAM and took about ten minutes to boot
33:21 <Ampera> For example, my 486 has an overclocked DX4, 2MB Trio32 VLB, a VLB I/O card by DTC, an Etherlink III, and an SB32 (AWE32, just without the built-in RAM)
33:45 <damian> i had a 486 DX2/66mhz next, that was what i learnt most of everything on
33:47 <Ampera> 2GB WD Caviar as well, runs PC-DOS 2000
33:57 <damian> then i went up to an AMD K6/2 500MHz which was the worst computer i ever owned
34:28 <Ampera> My Pentium Pro and MMX 233 share a config, with a 2 or 4MB (I have either, depends on which one I want to use at any given time) ATI Mach64/GX, and a Diamond Monster 3D accelerator (4MB)
34:37 <damian> the DX2 had 2MB RAM, ahh it was great
34:54 <Ampera> with an SB32, and Ultra160 PCI SCSI solution with either a 15k 147GB or 10k 73GB drive option
34:58 <damian> i think i had a 1.2GHz celeron next
35:22 <damian> then it all bumped up to an Intel Core2Duo, then Intel Core2Quad, Intel i5 which i'm on now
35:27 <Ampera> Oh, my 486 has 32MB of FPM DRAM, and I've had up to 96MB in there, with a possible max of 128, but I didn't do that for very obvious reasons.
35:44 <Ampera> My first PC I believe was a 64-bit Celeron laptop, 2GB of RAM running Windows 7
35:51 <damian> and mind you, all of these computers were hand-me-downs and already so old when i got them, except for the AMD k6
36:21 <damian> my first 64bit system was when i was like 27 ahhaha
36:27 <Ampera> I also have a PAL C64 and NTSC C128
36:39 <damian> now those are some good stuff
36:53 <Ampera> I have possibly the best gaming machine money could buy in 2005
36:57 <damian> you should stack them together and tak ea few good quality shots sometime
37:12 <Ampera> improvements here and there, and I wish it was 939 board
37:19 <damian> i came from a very poor family, and it wasn't until the last five years or so i came into money
37:24 <damian> so never anything new!
37:25 <Ampera> but it has dual 7800GTX 512MB ed's in SLI, with 4GB of RAM
37:40 <damian> and gaming was never an option due to cost, hahah
38:17 <Ampera> I'm in the process of upgrading my PC at the moment, I hope to upgrade my graphics card, but I currently run a GTX 970 on an i7-4790k box
38:41 <Ampera> I'd like something like a GTX 2070, because I now have an HTC Vive.
38:51 <damian> haha
39:00 <damian> i noticed the sticks on your desk
39:04 <Ampera> *RTX
39:18 <Ampera> Yeah, it's quite fun, I can do whole room VR just in my bedroom.
39:23 <ThunderSqueak> o.o
39:35 <damian> i have a 1050ti, it does pretty good .. but again, i only got it a few months ago, well after it was new
39:41 <ThunderSqueak> skyrim VR is a good work out, that is all
39:56 <damian> and on that note, i really have to head to the gym ebfore i get too sleep
39:57 <damian> y
39:59 <damian> catch y'all later
40:00 <Ampera> I might buy Skyrim VR one of these days, but I have other games I wish to get.
40:09 <Ampera> Want to get Tabletop Simulator to play Skat with friends
40:10 <Ampera> ciao
40:22 <damian> play The Forest in VM >:D
40:27 <damian> VR
40:33 <ThunderSqueak> yeah, decided to pick it up today... been craving a fantasy VR mmo, but there realy is not much for that
40:34 <Ampera> a VR VM
40:43 <Ampera> do you have a vive ThunderSqueak?
40:49 <ThunderSqueak> cv1
41:06 <ThunderSqueak> 3 cameras and a dedicated room for it
41:11 <damian> talk to seaner about VR, he just recently completed a few levels in the Samsung Gear rollercoaster game!
41:13 <damian> watta star :P
41:30 <Ampera> ThunderSqueak, you have motion controls?
41:56 <Ampera> if so, 1v1 Pavlov VR
42:40 <ThunderSqueak> yeah, I have motion control
42:56 <Ampera> get pavlov, 1v1, I'll destroy you
42:58 <Ampera> it's so fun
43:10 <ThunderSqueak> nah
43:15 <Ampera> :(
43:38 <ThunderSqueak> "I'll destroy you" doesnt sound like fun :P
43:50 <Ampera> would be for me
44:18 <ThunderSqueak> don't even know what sort of game it is
45:44 <Ampera> CS:GO in VR
46:05 <ThunderSqueak> ah, gotcha, yeah... absolutely not
46:12 <ThunderSqueak> not my type of game
46:32 <Ampera> so fun tho
59:55 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/YFwBkVK.jpg
00:14 <ThunderSqueak> lol
00:43 <ThunderSqueak> /* XD */
05:12 <ThunderSqueak> https://twitter.com/c_pruett/status/1087606973267206144
06:03 * T3sl4 steps slowly away from ThunderSqueak
09:05 * ThunderSqueak hugs T3sl4 
09:23 * T3sl4 hugs ThunderSqueak
20:52 <ThunderSqueak> ^^
21:39 <T3sl4> what have you been up to?
30:51 <ThunderSqueak> getting over the flu this weekend
31:07 <T3sl4> :/
31:14 <ThunderSqueak> basically sleeping a lot
31:22 <ThunderSqueak> I did get up and play some VR stuff earlier
31:41 <ThunderSqueak> got a bit dizzy tho, so stopped after 15 min
31:42 <T3sl4> i've got a really weak cold the last couple days, enough to cough slightly but not enough to make excuses about
31:59 <ThunderSqueak> eating some pudding right now
32:06 * T3sl4 hands ThunderSqueak a nice warm cup of broth
32:11 <T3sl4> or, that'll do too
32:15 <ThunderSqueak> had soup earlier
32:23 <T3sl4> :)
32:31 <ThunderSqueak> pudding now o.o
58:49 <ThunderSqueak> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cygx0Ng6qMk
59:59 <T3sl4> :D
11:39 <coppice_> Why do so many pasta machines look like that are unchanged since the 1800s?
12:17 <coppice_> Why do so many pasta machines look like that they are unchanged since the 1800s?
23:12 <T3sl4> because they dry clothes in their spare time?
23:43 <ThunderSqueak> haha
23:54 <ThunderSqueak> the pasta machine in my kitchen is heavy duty
33:15 <coppice_> I wonder how many hours work went into that?
40:44 <ThunderSqueak> no idea, the machine I purchased was 250usd
40:50 <ThunderSqueak> super heavy duty
41:40 <ThunderSqueak> I used to have one of those cheap little hand crank machines too, it was worthless
43:19 <coppice_> what kind of machine do you have?
57:41 <ThunderSqueak> it is one made by phillips
58:09 <ThunderSqueak> https://www.amazon.com/Philips-Noodle-HR2357-05-Packaging/dp/B00REJMIJ6/ref=asc_df_B00REJMIJ6/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=167123558869&hvpos=1o4&hvnetw=g&hvrand=7347074868245371678&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9033836&hvtargid=pla-274298428045&psc=1
59:03 <T3sl4> a Philips Noodle doesn't sound like it would turn screws very well
59:19 <ThunderSqueak> o.o
59:40 <coppice_> most of the electric pasta makers I see don't look all that strong. There are attachments for Kitchenaid and Kenwood mixers that look like they only exist to put your precise mixer in danger
00:27 <coppice_> ThunderSqueak: That's just an extruder. Those operate at much lower stresses than the rolling machines
00:32 <ThunderSqueak> ya, I Picked this one because it is metal where it counts. I would not want my hand to be in the ingredient reservoir while it is on...
00:49 <ThunderSqueak> I know but it does well enough for me :>
01:09 <ThunderSqueak> it kneeds the dough for about 12 minutes then extrudes it
01:22 <ThunderSqueak> also works for making bread dough
01:26 <coppice_> The pasta extruder attachments for Kitchenaid and Kenwood mixers look like they will work just fine. Its their rolling attachments that look iffy
01:35 <ThunderSqueak> yeah
01:46 <ThunderSqueak> I dont own a kitchenaid mixer, keep considerng one
02:04 <T3sl4> i understand they're worthwhile
02:57 <coppice_> the more expensive ones are OK, but the cheaper models don't seem to last long kneading dough
03:16 <T3sl4> they knead strength
03:30 <coppice_> kitchenaid completely junked their machines, but they seem to have put back some strength now
04:35 <coppice_> You get the usual "they were so poorly made when they went to China" crap, but they made a much cheapened machine in China, with some fragile gearing
04:48 <ThunderSqueak> yeah
05:15 <ThunderSqueak> anyway, I went with that phillips machine instead, it was a useful purchase for my kitchen
05:22 <T3sl4> i've seen plenty of things "made in US" that were significantly worse than competition
05:47 <coppice_> people can make almost any quality level in almost any country these days
05:48 <T3sl4> "made in X" is BS for quality, what matters is a commitment to quality
06:10 <T3sl4> indeed
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