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01:06 <ThunderSqueak> yes
01:36 <ThunderSqueak> but been restricting calories lately so I am being more picky with what I choose to eat
04:59 <ThunderSqueak> criteria is it has to be delicious AND fill me up enough so that I dont crave more food right away :/
05:10 <ThunderSqueak> that is actually super tough at times :P
05:18 * T3sl4 nods
06:08 <T3sl4> imagine the filler-upper items vary between people, and over time
06:58 <T3sl4> i imagine*
07:32 <ThunderSqueak> yeah, sad thing is items that are lower in calories for me tend to not keep me full for long
08:04 <T3sl4> it's almost like your body knows :P
11:39 <ThunderSqueak> ikr ?
15:02 <rust_collector> oatmeal and chopped up nuts
15:45 <T3sl4> you're a nut
15:57 <rust_collector> well
17:45 <ThunderSqueak> sounds extremely carby
18:10 <ThunderSqueak> I like carbs, but been trying to balance it out a bit
18:15 <rust_collector> if you don't have anything against the taste of oatmeal, it does keep you going for a while
18:38 <T3sl4> seems, to me, beans are great for the slow burn
18:44 <ThunderSqueak> love oatmeal, but the quantities I have to eat to feel full are stupid
19:01 <ThunderSqueak> beans are good
19:05 <ThunderSqueak> so is pea soup for me
19:09 <T3sl4> i dont have to eat much after eating beans, i think they digest slowly
19:15 <ThunderSqueak> actually, I should make pea soup today...
20:51 <ThunderSqueak> sounds like a way to start out the new year... pea soup
20:57 <ThunderSqueak> very fitting
21:31 * T3sl4 peas on ThunderSqueak
22:41 <ThunderSqueak> -.-
23:03 * ThunderSqueak is no longer friends with T3sl4 ; ;
23:32 <ThunderSqueak> thats no way to treat peas ; ;
23:45 <T3sl4> what, you don't like golden showers? or, er, green ones, or brown or whatever other colors split peas and lentils come in
24:05 <ThunderSqueak> no and why the fuck would you think I did
24:07 <ThunderSqueak> <.<
24:33 <T3sl4> we're talking about pouring containers of dried legumes, right?
25:18 <ThunderSqueak> ...
25:57 <rust_collector> ok, so... anti-carb food.
26:37 <rust_collector> Hungarian... anything hungarian fat/paprika/fat/meat/spices/paprika
26:48 <T3sl4> paprika \o/
27:53 <rust_collector> I would roll like a ball if I was in hungary for more than a week.
36:00 <ThunderSqueak> rust_collector, no, just cutting back on it
36:51 <rust_collector> yeah, so keep going with carbs, and then have some anti-carb every 3 times
37:06 <ThunderSqueak> huh?
37:17 <ThunderSqueak> how about I just keep doing what I am doing ? :P
37:29 <rust_collector> yeah, do what you want
37:43 <ThunderSqueak> its working, strange diet... eat less move more
38:07 <ThunderSqueak> tbh, I dont think anyone does the eat less move more diet these days, it isn't as fashionable as say keto
38:09 <rust_collector> that is not a diet
38:13 <ThunderSqueak> XD
38:23 <ThunderSqueak> its a method of weight loss :P
38:30 <rust_collector> well, yeah
38:53 <T3sl4> right, a diet is defined as a fad that doesn't work
38:56 <ThunderSqueak> I have a friend who changes "diets" every few weeks ... whatever the latest fad is
39:02 <T3sl4> so of course it's not :)
39:31 <ThunderSqueak> also kept trying to get me to read whatever the latest crackpot thing was on the web "proving it"
39:51 <ThunderSqueak> I finally had to say "dude, fuck off... notice, I am losing weight and you are not... "
39:53 <ThunderSqueak> <.<
41:24 <rust_collector> best way to loose weight, have christmas all year
41:44 <T3sl4> that'd be very expensive and stressful
41:54 <ThunderSqueak> heh
41:55 <T3sl4> i'm not disagreeing ;)
44:18 <steve30> My diet involves lots of food :)
44:50 <rust_collector> mine involves far less food that it looks like, lol
49:12 <ThunderSqueak> o.o
18:48 <ThunderSqueak> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5m7X-1V9nOs
34:16 <coppice_> cracking pots might help with dieting
50:56 Quit: ThunderSqueak ([email protected]) Quit: Leaving
54:23 <coppice_> start the year with a dismal failure, so things are likely to look up after that
17:41 <MrMobodies> I have removed bread from my diet and I can breathe once again without an inhaler
41:45 <rust_collector> MrMobodies: I think you are onto something there
44:00 <rust_collector> I remember wheat flour being grey, now it is not. I dunno, but I don't think it is the same, no matter how much they say it is
44:41 <DHess_US> Obligatory, https://i.imgur.com/2K00jmx.jpg
45:28 <rust_collector> has the same jawline as kermit, lol
46:27 <rust_collector> stronk... I remember the olympics in russia, they interviewed some guy, asking about what musil he wanted to hear
46:32 <rust_collector> music
46:45 <rust_collector> So, he wanted to hear stink
46:58 <rust_collector> which I found amusing
07:16 <DHess_US> https://i.imgur.com/ltadu6P.png
08:10 <DHess_US> https://i.imgur.com/V4tnMse.png
14:27 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWtIFaEvwzw
17:56 <T3sl4> :D
27:05 <DHess_US> Eh, that guy is a piker.
30:02 <DHess_US> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBLIYbNxsNs
30:40 <T3sl4> hah
37:10 <K> no nails on a blackboard?
37:12 <K> weak
37:25 <K> fingernails, that is
37:34 <T3sl4> how cliche
39:27 <mrpackethead> how bizzare
39:51 <mrpackethead> can one buy a fixed frequency signal generator easy enough.
40:19 <T3sl4> what frequency, signal
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42:39 <Guest|47814> Hi Gang, has anyone come across a reliable review of Field Service ESD mats?
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43:26 <Guest|44588> Hi
43:31 <Guest|44588> Are onyone is online?
43:42 <T3sl4> nope
43:50 <Guest|44588> How do you feel?
44:04 <Guest|44588> Or Locomotive is broken down how it look...
44:27 <Guest|44588> thankfully it was not mine *gg*.
44:33 <T3sl4> D'oh
44:53 <Guest|44588> now the IC passed by
44:57 <Guest|44588> fuck...
45:00 <Ampera> I'm dead, for anybody who asks.
45:33 <Guest|44588> if i missed the train i will be it to
45:40 <Guest|44588> i took my medicine
45:47 <rust_collector> I am in an important meeting
45:52 <Guest|44588> with them i fall a sleep in 3h
46:28 <Ampera> that sounds good, how long is the train ride?
46:54 <Guest|44588> depend how long the need to fix the lokomitive
47:10 <Ampera> are you on the train yet?
47:15 <Guest|44588> and i dont know in which village we are currently
47:17 <Guest|44588> yes...
47:22 <mrpackethead> the global village
47:27 <Guest|44588> and the wiki works the only think...
47:30 <Guest|44588> wifi
47:32 <Ampera> ah, so you're hoping to get off the train before you fall asleep.
47:37 <mrpackethead> T3sl4, i'd like a 500Mhz, and 1Ghz
47:46 <mrpackethead> just as a reference signal
48:00 <T3sl4> silicon oscillator?
48:04 <Guest|44588> Anfang Ihrer Verbindung -> Einstieg Zilina 19:16 19:20
48:04 <Guest|44588> Povazska Bystrica 19:44 19:46
48:04 <Guest|44588> Puchov 20:00 20:02
48:04 <Guest|44588> Trencianska Tepla 20:16 20:18
48:04 <Guest|44588> Trencin 20:23 20:25
48:04 <Guest|44588> Nove Mesto nad Vahom 20:38 20:40
48:04 <Guest|44588> Piestany 20:50 20:52
48:04 <Guest|44588> Leopoldov 21:02 21:04
48:04 <Guest|44588> Trnava 21:15 21:18
48:04 <Guest|44588> Bratislava-Vinohrady 21:39 21:39
48:04 <Guest|44588> Ende Ihrer Verbindung -> Ausstieg Bratislava hl.st. 21:47
48:16 <T3sl4> o.o
48:20 <Ampera> dun do that
48:24 <Guest|44588> well thats challaching
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48:38 <rust_collector> I want to go to trencin
48:50 <mrpackethead> T3sl4, use case is just to to feed into a scope, to see how it behaves
49:04 <mrpackethead> actual accuracy is not so important
49:14 <mrpackethead> *about* 1Ghz would be just fine.
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49:48 <Guest|44588> does anyone here know about eletric locomotives? Maybe we can fix it.
50:15 <T3sl4> can't say i recommend getting between angry pixies and their motor
50:19 <Ampera> maybe an idea would be to get a computer motherboard that can scale 500mhz to 1000mhz and then try to grab the clock signal after it's been multiplied?
50:30 <T3sl4> especially not when they're 2000V of angry
50:32 <mrpackethead> It *seems* that the new Rigol Scope can be 'tricked' into providing a lot more bandwidth that the label says
50:45 <Guest|44588> 2000v?
51:03 <Guest|44588> what i know the use 16kv or so
51:04 <Ampera> I think many modern boards have base clocks of ~100mhz, or at least mine does, so you can shuffle around the multiplier to make an ad-hoc square wave generator.
51:07 <rust_collector> 16kv is more probable
51:18 <T3sl4> 2kV+*
51:37 <Ampera> Amtrak uses Deisel, so I can't help you.
51:41 <rust_collector> well, check the fuses?
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51:51 <Ampera> *Diesel
52:01 <mrpackethead> Ampera, that runs a generator, that provides power to electric motors
52:03 <rust_collector> amtrak uses electrick, it is just that they have their own generator
52:11 <Guest|44588> lol in the us nobody would care about a 1h delay
52:23 <Guest|44588> the would called "on time"
52:25 <Ampera> well I didn't know you wanted everything. :P
52:30 <T3sl4> 47814's .milwwi. subdomain sounds awfully nearby
52:41 <Ampera> ususally because most long distance trains are run daily.
52:54 <mrpackethead> 10 spanish minutes = 17 german minutes = 19 swiss minutes
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53:35 <Guest|44588> i wish i would understand slowakian
53:43 <Ampera> lol, slowakian
54:09 <T3sl4> well hurry it up, be a fastvakian
54:19 <Guest|44588> ?
54:29 <rust_collector> No one realy does, it is a pretend language. they just put their stuff on the counter, and see what the machine says they have to pay,
54:55 <mrpackethead> Does defining the planck constant rather than meauring it make any practical differnece to us
55:04 <rust_collector> not to me
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55:56 <Guest|44588> it seem i dont catch the train to vienna....
56:11 <Guest|44588> the next goes at 4....
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57:00 <T3sl4> mrpackethead: you're sweating over 0.1% resistors. it's safe to say, no :)
57:29 <mrpackethead> lolz.
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57:47 <mrpackethead> T3sl4, have you worked out what i need these resistors for
58:31 <T3sl4> don't really care tbh, smells of an x-y problem but it doesn't seem to be an important one so i've let it fester :P
58:45 <Ampera> mmm, festering
59:04 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/BaTjXPy.jpg
59:12 <mrpackethead> whats an X-Y problem
59:44 <T3sl4> you think you want 1.5 ohm resistors, but you should really be asking if this is the right way to solve the problem
00:12 <mrpackethead> oh.
00:33 <mrpackethead> how would you solve the problem
00:35 <mrpackethead> lol
00:47 <T3sl4> beats me
01:04 <Ampera> what is the problem
01:26 <T3sl4> Ampera: good question, i think the problem is mrpackethead doesn't know what his problem is
01:28 <mrpackethead> reducing DC bias on a transformer, due to cable/connection variation.
01:46 <mrpackethead> particualy with short cables.
02:02 <Ampera> I know what my problem is, I'm just either too lazy, or otherwise powerless to solve it.
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02:38 <I_want_get_home> re...
02:40 <T3sl4> "i want a second opinion!" "you're also lazy"
02:43 <I_want_get_home> the wifi was died
02:54 <I_want_get_home> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nN8w3Yjjeds
02:58 <mrpackethead> all the wifi, or just yours
03:08 <I_want_get_home> the router reset
03:35 <I_want_get_home> and the lok is still death
03:54 <Ampera> happens on Amtrak trains too, free wlan internet is just an afterthought in most places.
04:11 <Ampera> wait, wouldn't wlan internet just be wwan?
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08:20 <I_want_get_home> doespassenger right exist on amtrac trains?
08:59 <Ampera> passenger right?
09:13 <Ampera> what do you mean by that?
12:11 <I_want_get_home> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passenger_rights#Austria
13:07 <I_want_get_home> thats not 100% right on wikipedia there are a lot of exeptions
13:35 <Ampera> Not necessarily, it depends on Amtrak's policies, but there aren't too many enforced by law.
14:19 <I_want_get_home> if i loose the last train the have to pay a hotel room <80€ or pay a Taxi <50€
14:28 <Ampera> They aren't allowed to lie to you, and are legally required to provide the service paid for, but when that's required isn't particularly important.
14:39 <Ampera> Amtrak does have travel insurance which does all of that, but it's not included by any default.
15:24 <Ampera> so if you get stranded in the middle of nowhere because the train system was fucked up, you might be entitled to alternate transportation if a delay involving a connecting train caused you to miss said connecting train, but they probably aren't required to do anything as far as refund, lodging, or support for when you're there.
15:54 <T3sl4> Ampera: https://i.imgur.com/WHwLr1x.jpg
16:10 <Ampera> INSTANT ERECTION
16:29 <Ampera> also, new GradeAUnderA video for any interested.
17:16 <I_want_get_home> omg.... how about airlines?
18:06 <I_want_get_home> the passenger rights here are in theory nice but in fact there are many ways arround for the company.
18:08 <Ampera> Similar regulations with airlines, although they might be required to provide things like lodging and replacement flights, etc.
18:44 <I_want_get_home> if you have here an local transport ticket the passenger right dont apply for you
18:49 <mrpackethead> ahh. had a good thought. I have a lime mini SDR
18:58 <mrpackethead> that goes up to 3.8Ghz
19:05 <I_want_get_home> and or have a connection to an local train
19:07 <mrpackethead> that will provide me a useful signal
20:02 <I_want_get_home> the same for payback the have to pay just if your over an ammount of money
21:03 <I_want_get_home> that cheap tickets are in fact no cashback if the train is delayed "just" 60min
27:04 <I_want_get_home> well it look i have to slep on a bench
42:34 <coppice_> mrpackethead: playing with a Rigol scope?
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08:46 <mrpackethead> coppice_, not yet. but i've bought one
09:03 <mrpackethead> picking it up in San Francisco next week
09:19 <mrpackethead> save a few bucks
11:53 <coppice_> its an interesting looking machine. has it been confirmed whether the software hack actually opens up the bandwidth to 350MHz?
12:45 <coppice_> the digital probe might be nice, but they've made it rather pricy. I wonder what is in it, and whether it would be easy to produce an equivalent
14:11 <mrpackethead> coppice_, yes. the 350Mhz works jsut fine.
14:56 <mrpackethead> the 'hack' is trivial as well
15:23 <coppice_> it will be great, as long as they don't try to cut off that trick
15:33 <mrpackethead> bit late now
15:56 <coppice_> why? the software is still early, so there will be lots of updates to come
16:54 <mrpackethead> read the long thread. theres an explanation
17:04 <mrpackethead> its something to do with the way uboot starts up
17:22 <mrpackethead> their updates wont' ever update uboot
17:37 <mrpackethead> *disclaimer* this is not my are of expertiese
18:14 <mrpackethead> i just want a couple more scopes for the workshop that are for general work
18:18 <mrpackethead> and these fit the bill nicely
18:21 <coppice_> well, the hack is to add parms to the command line that runs the scope software. surely they just need to remove those command line parameters, and only test the licence stuff
18:23 <mrpackethead> dont' have to be particaully mazing
26:27 <DHess_US> <coppice_> the digital probe might be nice, but they've made it rather pricy. I wonder what is in it, and whether it would be easy to produce an equivalent
26:48 <DHess_US> Usually not feasible because it will include a bunch of high input impedance line receivers or similar.
26:50 <mrpackethead> DHess_US, to be honest, i dont' see much use for one.
27:00 <mrpackethead> there was some talk about making one
27:15 <DHess_US> Yea, I know how to make one in the general sense.
27:16 <mrpackethead> someone had xrayed one, and it does appear to have some active parts in it.
27:22 <coppice_> DHess_US: the question is whether the used something off the shelf, or something custom
28:00 <coppice_> it would be useless if it were passive. the leads are so long
28:07 <DHess_US> It isn't quite a straightforward project. What is really needed is a low input bias current comparator which is a contradiction in terms. Usually they are implemented as a high impedance buffer followed by a comparator.
28:46 <DHess_US> Not quite. In theory it could be a bank of x100 attenuators driving 50 ohm lines for a 5k input resistance.
29:04 <DHess_US> But in practice, they use active buffers followed by line receivers or comparators.
29:34 <DHess_US> It's actually a good project for surface mount. Tek and HP used to make them as hybrids.
29:42 <coppice_> capacitance would be a killer without active circuitry
30:02 <DHess_US> x100 50 ohm probe reduces the capacitance to just a couple pF.
30:16 <DHess_US> The problem is that 5k loading is a little high for some logic families.
30:39 <coppice_> do Tek and HP still use their own custom parts, or are something off the shelf?
30:53 <DHess_US> Although I have seem bipolar implementations which were like 50 to 100k input resistance which might work for logic.
32:13 <DHess_US> Tek sold off their fabs back in the 90s. They both have customs designs made though.
32:35 <coppice_> HP has also lost its fabs
32:57 <DHess_US> i know HP split Avago off which is now Broadcom.
33:10 <DHess_US> But somewhere HP is having higher performance custom stuff made.
33:13 <coppice_> yep. all the fab stuff went in that stuffle
33:17 <DHess_US> I assume Tektronix does also.
33:20 <coppice_> shuffle
33:40 <coppice_> there aren't that many people making their own silicon any more
33:43 <DHess_US> Up to 500MHz commercial parts are viable but I'm not sure above that.
34:15 <coppice_> duno. there might well be someone making a nice little part just for this type of application
34:18 <DHess_US> National was making a lot of custom stuff for Tek. Maxim bought Tek's fab. National is now part of TI.
34:36 <DHess_US> Oh, you can buy an entire 500MHz DSO front end from TI now through National.
34:50 <DHess_US> And maybe somewhat higher.
35:19 <DHess_US> It's been that way for like 10 years or so.
35:23 <DHess_US> At least.
36:27 <DHess_US> Sometimes the logic pods include DRM even going back to 2000. What you are really paying for is activating the software in the DSO.
36:42 <DHess_US> The logic pod represents a physical license key.
37:55 <coppice_> The TI DSO front end is 4Gsps 12 bits, which sounds quite nice
38:12 <DHess_US> they have a bunch of them but remember that it is two differnet parts.
38:30 <DHess_US> There is a gain switched analog input ASIC and a separate ADC.
38:39 <coppice_> the snag is its minimum sampling rate is 1Gsps :)
38:50 <DHess_US> So decimate. There are other ADCs.
39:01 <coppice_> just sample skip
39:08 <DHess_US> That is what decimate means.
39:23 <coppice_> decimate implies filtering
40:00 <DHess_US> Analog Devices has a bunch of suitable ADCs now through Hittite but I think Nationsl (TI) is the only one making the front ends.
40:37 <DHess_US> Somewhere I have an article on where those TI chips came from. They are built on a CMOS process so pretty much suck for nosie.
40:43 <coppice_> You need to be careful to choose parts with friendly EAR codes
41:16 <DHess_US> Rigol and Picoscope use them and like to talk about "low noise" but they aren't. They are noisier than the earliest DSOs.
43:07 <coppice_> maybe I should order myself one of these Rigol scopes
43:32 <DHess_US> I wouldn't for myself but they are a good deal if you do not have anything.
48:28 <mrpackethead> https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/hacking-the-rigol-mso5000-series-oscilloscopes/msg2055715/#msg2055715
48:34 <mrpackethead> ^ xray and discusion
48:49 <mrpackethead> DHess_US, i have a good Keysight scope that we use for critical thigns,
49:22 <mrpackethead> these rigols are good 'bench' scopes for general work
49:40 <mrpackethead> sometimes you just wnat to be able to probe the scope in and see whats happenign
49:43 <DHess_US> I have a couple of old Tektronix DSOs. I wouldn't use the Rigols if they were given to me.
49:59 <coppice_> they seem to be QFNs, so they are probably off the shelf parts
50:15 <DHess_US> I agree. That is what automatic peak-to-peak triggering is for but Rigol's lack it.
50:46 <mrpackethead> DHess_US, fine. I suppose you woud'tn use a Mac either
51:03 <DHess_US> Not a modern one.
51:19 <DHess_US> If it doesn't have PCIe slots, then I'm not interested.
51:22 <coppice_> I've got really sick of bloody Tek crap in the last few years
52:10 <mrpackethead> yeah, i dont' do brand names any longer just becuase they have a brand name
52:13 <mrpackethead> its BS.
52:27 <mrpackethead> each product stands on its merits.
52:34 <mrpackethead> the exception has been my iphone
52:43 <mrpackethead> i know its a peice of shit
52:47 <mrpackethead> cmpared to other phones.
52:57 <mrpackethead> i'm just too lazy to make the change, bevusae its too hard.
53:09 <mrpackethead> *lock* in.
53:30 <mrpackethead> LMH7322 <-mike thinks the IC in the probe might be these
54:42 <DHess_US> If I were looking for a new DSO it would be HP or more likely R&S.
56:50 <coppice_> mrpackethead: so, you've just bought the 70MHz 2 channel version?
56:57 <mrpackethead> 4 channel version
57:30 <coppice_> that thread says the 2 to 4 channel change is also part of the software hack, so you just seem to get 2 more probes
57:42 <mrpackethead> yes, i belive that is the case
57:52 <mrpackethead> was a case of getting what was in stock
58:11 <mrpackethead> there was about $90 price diff i understand
58:29 <coppice_> yeah, loads of places are out of stock of both 2 and 4 channel ones now. There are still some places showing stock, though
58:46 <mrpackethead> yeah, i bought mine back in early december
59:06 <mrpackethead> its being shipped to my AirBNB this week
59:11 <mrpackethead> and i'll take it home with me.
00:07 <mrpackethead> what are two probes worth.
00:14 <mrpackethead> $50 each?
03:30 <coppice_> they are 350MHz probes, so maybe $15 each. Its a while since I bought cheap probes.
04:13 <coppice_> haha. checking the UK disties sites they way 55 pounds each for the 350MHz probes. that's a little excessive
04:35 <mrpackethead> yeah, it all seems very expensive in the UK.
05:00 <mrpackethead> some stuff is cheap here, but tech is not
09:25 <mrpackethead> the big issue is lack of 50R input
09:36 <mrpackethead> thats a wee bit sucky
10:46 <coppice_> 50 ohm input is a mixed blessing. a 50 ohm loading BNC feedthrough (or even a tee + a terminator) offers less opportunity for damaging the scope
14:27 <coppice_> with current UK prices the difference in price between the 2 and 4 channel models is basically the price of 2 probes
24:02 <mrpackethead> only four more sleeps and i'm leaving the uK
25:18 <coppice_> Lamdba have the MSO5074 in stock, but when you try to place an on line order it demands you either add a software bundle or the logic probe. Maybe that's why the still have stock :-\
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55:18 <Dom> Thoughts on the hp1725a? I am looking for my first scope and have (what I think) is a pretty good deal on that.
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46:00 <coppice_> It was a great scope in its day, but that was a long time ago. what condition is it in now? is it fully functional?
46:10 <coppice_> oh, too late
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11:25 <Ampera> We live in a world where fast food companies are now confirming that the queen will die on the 5th.
14:35 <coppice_> well, if they don't specify a month they have about a 3% chance of being right
15:00 <Ampera> they did, this month, the 5th was my shorthand of meaning, in 4 days.
15:17 <Ampera> it's a meme started on reddit that the queen will die on the 5th of Janurary.
15:24 <coppice_> are they specific about which queen?
15:30 <Ampera> of england
27:06 <coppice_> I can imagine her death being staged to take the spotlight off brexit
27:19 <Ampera> why stage when you can do?
27:46 <Ampera> the UK is insane enough to do just about anything, even steal the magic mace in the house of commons.
28:08 <coppice_> its better to fake it. then you can get a second distraction from her return
28:29 <Ampera> and then a third one from actually killing her
28:36 <Ampera> you're pretty good at this, you should work for the CIA.
28:48 <coppice_> perhaps. you need to maximise value
29:15 <Ampera> but what about the part where big ben fucking explodes?
39:40 <coppice_> "big ben fucking explode" sounds like a class porn title
41:08 <DHess_US> Rule 34
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19:04 <Halcyon> Stupid storms
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22:25 <ThunderSqueak> storming there too?
48:59 <Halcyon> It was
50:01 <steve30> i think i'll go out soon
50:07 <steve30> Its a nice day today :)
54:53 <Halcyon> :D
09:20 <mrpackethead> storming
09:51 <Halcyon> UPS came in handy today for me
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47:18 <steve30> afternoon
49:22 <Ampera> My vive comes in today.
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