// #eevblog — 2019-01-05
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00:00:26 <ThunderSqueak> o.o
00:00:36 <ThunderSqueak> just bored atm
00:00:51 <ThunderSqueak> watching an older movie and thinking about repairs I need to make
00:02:33 * steve30 is waiting for coffee to breww
00:02:34 <steve30> -w
00:03:31 <ThunderSqueak> ah, maybe in a couple hours I will think about breakfast
00:11:47 <Ampera> yeah idk why they do that, I think they have it automatically set 10 above the current amount so a flood can't join.
00:14:39 <ThunderSqueak> think I want a sweet and sour tofu for dinner
00:14:51 <Ampera> that sounds like shit
00:15:18 <ThunderSqueak> nah, it can be good
00:15:19 <ThunderSqueak> :)
00:15:30 <Ampera> [citation needed]
00:15:57 <ThunderSqueak> second choice is a pita pocket stuffed with grilled chicken, bean sprouts, a good dressing, and bacon
00:16:35 <steve30> i just had turkey risotto
00:47:05 <coppice_> its s bit late to still be using up the turkey
01:01:25 <mattinx> depends when the turkey was cooked, and if it's been frozen
01:01:35 <mattinx> we have leftover turkey in the freezer still
01:04:48 <ThunderSqueak> love movie guns ... the double barrel shotgun just fired 3 times
01:05:13 <T3sl4> [[Brutal Doomguy Drooling]]
01:05:14 <steve30> I keep pondering using the frozen broccoli we have which was out of date 11 years ago.
01:06:02 <ThunderSqueak> freezerburn ? o.o
01:06:14 <T3sl4> nah, it'll be all freezer flavor and ice and burn
01:23:20 <steve30> its cold here today
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01:30:08 <coppice_> steve30: its 6C outside
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05:50:11 <IoTPanic> I thought I did a good job on my switching regulator. Clearly not
06:25:25 <IoTPanic> This is odd, has anyone had this issue or is able to help me debug? I have a ATSAMD21g18A on 3.3v, I am able to connect my ICE programmer and read the device sig, as well as write then verify a bootloader. But then when I upload a blink sketch (Not with bootloader) nothing happens.
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08:51:28 <Guest|22048> Hi guys. I have two fluke 289 with leaky supercap. it draws 20 uA when it is of after 1 min. it's firmware is 1.12.
08:53:29 <Guest|22048> some people said they meter died after changing the cap. now should I upgrade it before changing the cap or keep it 1.12 and should use hotair or soldering? also should I discharge cap before changing
08:54:02 <Guest|22048> P.S. I cant send it to fluke
08:54:32 <Guest|22048> Hi guys. I have two fluke 289 with leaky supercap. it draws 20 uA when it is off* after 1 min. it's firmware is 1.12.
08:55:13 <Guest|22048> some people said their meter died after changing the cap. now should I upgrade it before changing the cap or keep it 1.12 and should use hot-air or soldering? also should I discharge cap before changing
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09:06:40 <Halcyon1> Morning all
09:10:31 <steve30> hi Halcyon1
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09:10:57 <Halcyon> Stupid NBN
09:11:02 <steve30> wb
09:11:06 <Halcyon> Hey Steve :D
09:12:53 <steve30> Are you coming to my birthday party tomorrow?
09:13:00 <rust_collector> meow
09:13:04 <Halcyon> Aw I would love to!
09:13:11 <Halcyon> What are you getting up to?
09:13:50 * Halcyon pets rust_collector
09:14:08 <Ampera> Eyy, Halcyon
09:14:11 <Halcyon> Hey Ampera
09:14:18 * rust_collector scratch the wallpaper, and push all the things off the table
09:14:20 <Ampera> I got whole room VR in my bedroom
09:14:24 <Halcyon> Stupid cats
09:14:52 <Halcyon> Reminds me of this picture: https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/323/410/4e3.jpg
09:14:59 <Halcyon> What's whole room VR ?
09:15:04 <Ampera> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/446784883633684491/530844037138219009/IMG_20190104_152417.jpg
09:15:18 <Ampera> I can walk around my bedroom and it tracks me and the controllers perfectly.
09:15:28 <Halcyon> Ahh yes
09:15:31 <Ampera> I can walk, look around, position the controllers in any way I want
09:15:40 <Halcyon> Sweet
09:15:43 <Halcyon> I have a new ISP
09:15:45 <Ampera> I wall mounted those sensors myself.
09:15:48 <Halcyon> Connection still sucks
09:15:54 <Ampera> what's the package?
09:16:18 <rust_collector> you get 1 internet
09:16:19 <Halcyon> It's pretty much what I had before, but just a better provider. No overseas call centres and tech support people who ACTUALLY know technical stuff
09:16:24 <Halcyon> Also they post their CVC graphs: https://www.aussiebroadband.com.au/cvc-graphs/
09:16:45 <Ampera> means nothing to me, unless I know quoted up/down and how much /mo
09:16:53 <Ampera> for example I get 940/880 80USD/mo
09:17:00 <steve30> Having a couple of relatives over for an Indian takeaway. Not much else.
09:17:07 <Halcyon> Our NBN is shit as you know, there is no such thing as that
09:17:13 * steve30 meows at rust_collector
09:17:15 <Halcyon> Still waiting for 5G
09:17:17 <Ampera> No Bandwidth Network
09:17:35 <Ampera> National Bullshit Network
09:17:38 <Halcyon> Yup
09:17:49 <Halcyon> I love Indian food :)
09:17:57 <Halcyon> Especially really spicy vindaloo
09:18:01 <Ampera> I don't really even know what Indian food is
09:18:03 <Halcyon> Except I need the following day off
09:18:15 <rust_collector> but
09:18:17 <Ampera> besides spicy curry crap
09:18:32 <rust_collector> vindaloo is not really indian, is it?
09:18:38 <Halcyon> Is it not?
09:18:45 <Ampera> and general tso's is probably not chinese either
09:18:57 <rust_collector> I think it was "invented" by the portugese or something
09:19:29 <Ampera> Fancy foods throughout history largely came from richer people.
09:19:35 <Halcyon> Spices too
09:19:39 <Ampera> which a lot of Europe definitely was for hundreds of years.
09:19:42 * steve30 pounces onto Halcyon's lap
09:19:48 <rust_collector> most food came from people who could get it
09:19:51 <Halcyon> Like pepper was traded in the past because of its worth
09:19:59 * Halcyon scratches steve30
09:20:02 <Ampera> why are like 75% of the EEVBlog's fans furries?
09:20:13 <Halcyon> *shrug*
09:20:19 <Halcyon> Seems that way
09:20:24 <rust_collector> I just thinks it is very very boring to shave
09:20:27 <Ampera> It's time for an inquisition I tell you.
09:20:29 <Halcyon> Hahaha
09:20:42 <Halcyon> It's time for a coffee...
09:20:48 <Ampera> Aussie Broadband is the best company name though
09:20:49 <rust_collector> as always
09:21:03 <Ampera> Oh, Halcyon, I've switched browsers on Linux, I am no longer using Chromium.
09:21:15 <rust_collector> YAY!
09:21:31 <steve30> I went on a date with a kitten a few years ago, and became addicted to them :D
09:21:54 <Ampera> Indeed, I've dropped Chromium, as I was too lazy to read the bit about getting the right package for DRM content in order to watch YouTube TV, so I needed a different browser.
09:22:04 <rust_collector> so, you are back to lynx?
09:22:18 <Ampera> back to? I've used Chromium on Linux exclusively since I started using Linux.
09:22:25 <Ampera> oh, you meant steve
09:22:32 <Halcyon> I still use Opera mainly
09:22:40 <Ampera> I now use Google Chrome.
09:22:43 <rust_collector> no, I meant you, Ampera
09:22:45 <Halcyon> *hiss*
09:22:52 <Halcyon> I dislike Chrome
09:22:59 <Halcyon> It's a memory hog and can be flakey
09:23:04 <steve30> I switched to Vivaldi recently
09:23:25 <Ampera> I've used Chrome for years and years, and until I find a critical issue with it, I intend to keep using it.
09:23:41 <Ampera> It's fast, and works with almost everything, and I can live with it's memory hog issues
09:23:45 <Halcyon> At work, I just find Chrome too crashy for my liking
09:23:54 <Ampera> Chrome almost never crashes for me.
09:24:03 <Ampera> I think in the past couple years, it's only ever crashed a few times.
09:24:04 <Halcyon> That's why I use Opera, it's faster than Firefox
09:24:23 <rust_collector> Have not had many issues with chrome... But I do not use it either
09:24:24 <Ampera> Halcyon, I found this on Twitter and it made me think of you: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DwGaLS5U8AEcfH1.jpg:large
09:24:43 <steve30> I used to like Opera, until they dumbed it down
09:24:47 <Halcyon> Why am I the fat one?
09:25:12 <Ampera> No, they don't have one that looks as stereotypically Australian like you in that picture
09:25:17 <Ampera> you're the gay one.
09:25:18 <rust_collector> the old opera was ok, but the mail and stuff I got with it was annoying
09:25:29 <Halcyon> The big guy kind of looks like Big Clive
09:25:45 <rust_collector> moderate size clive
09:25:49 <Halcyon> Hahaha
09:25:54 <Ampera> Slightly overweight Clive
09:26:14 <steve30> Halcyon, there was a tasty twunk at the gym the other day :p
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09:26:22 <Halcyon> Nice Steve :)
09:26:25 <Halcyon> Did you talk to him?
09:26:37 <mrpackethead> ....zip..... buzzzz.......
09:26:43 <rust_collector> ooof. gym
09:26:44 <Halcyon> Foom
09:26:46 <steve30> nope
09:26:56 <Ampera> I don't need a gym, I have a VR headset
09:26:57 <Halcyon> Yeh Steve is a gym junkie :P
09:27:04 <Halcyon> I suspect he just sits there though and pervs
09:27:04 <mrpackethead> I met Mikes Electrical today
09:27:09 <Ampera> way better than a gym, becasue I get to exercise and shoot people.
09:27:16 <mrpackethead> as in for real.
09:27:26 <Halcyon> I count masturbation is cardio
09:27:30 <Halcyon> *as
09:27:35 <Ampera> how fucking hard do you wank
09:27:38 <steve30> mrpackethead, cool
09:27:48 <Halcyon> :)
09:27:49 <rust_collector> 15 or more, some times up to 20
09:28:27 <rust_collector> bpm? noooo, sps?
09:29:05 <steve30> this guy was wearing rather revealing shorts :p
09:29:17 <mrpackethead> please folks.
09:29:57 <Ampera> anybody remember the probably 2010/2011 Smosh video, the potter pill?
09:30:23 <Ampera> well harry potter fans haven't improved much in 8 years
09:30:37 <Ampera> whenever I see people screeching about it on Twitter, the words, read another fucking book, scroll through my mind over and over
09:31:10 <Halcyon> Ampera: I can usually get my heart rate up to >112 BPM which is in the "fat burn zone" :P
09:31:21 <Halcyon> Steve: How revealing :P
09:31:53 <Ampera> Aren't there laws about abusing living things that hard?
09:32:04 <Ampera> no wonder you can barely see
09:32:14 <rust_collector> I think I have been in a gym
09:32:28 <DHess_US> https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/323/410/4e3.jpg
09:32:30 <Ampera> Attended a gym once before, it was incredibly boring.
09:32:33 <steve30> revealing enough :D
09:32:37 <rust_collector> if nothing else, I know where they say there is one
09:33:14 <DHess_US> I love exersize. I could watch it all day.
09:33:40 <steve30> I think the gym would be boring if you go too often
09:33:55 <Halcyon> Was he cut or uncut Steve? :P
09:34:11 <Ampera> I want to start cutting myself just thinking about you guys.
09:34:25 <rust_collector> do you mean jewish or??
09:34:35 <Ampera> no, I mean self harm
09:35:01 <DHess_US> He means mowing the law.
09:35:43 <Halcyon> You love us Ampera :)
09:35:57 <Ampera> Why do you think I cut myself?
09:36:01 <Ampera> It's only to please you.
09:36:05 <Halcyon> Because you're weird
09:36:09 <DHess_US> Is that what it is called?
09:36:17 <Halcyon> What's that DHess_US ?
09:36:24 * Halcyon plunges coffee
09:36:36 <DHess_US> I had to give up coffee. :(
09:36:36 * Ampera plunges Halcyon's toilet
09:36:48 <Halcyon> High blood pressure?
09:37:10 <Ampera> my grinder should be comming any second now.
09:37:13 <DHess_US> Something in coffee which was not caffein was triggering migrain headaches.
09:37:15 <Halcyon> Grindr?
09:37:16 <Halcyon> :P
09:37:21 <Ampera> no, a grinder
09:37:26 <Halcyon> Uhuh ;)
09:37:34 <Ampera> meatball grinder
09:37:37 <Halcyon> DHess_US: That sucks :(
09:38:03 <Halcyon> The only thing I'm allergic to is bullshit, it triggers me.
09:38:17 <DHess_US> migrains are not allergies.
09:38:27 <Ampera> he never said they were
09:38:49 <Halcyon> Isn't an allergy anything that produces a negative response by the body?
09:39:00 <Halcyon> Or something the body doesn't tolerate?
09:39:04 <Ampera> No.
09:39:13 <Halcyon> Then what is it?
09:39:14 <DHess_US> No, an allergy is anything which produces a specific negative response, that being an allergic response.
09:39:16 <Ampera> If it were, I'd be considered allergic to vegetables and matcat
09:39:24 <Halcyon> ROFL
09:39:29 <Halcyon> Fair enough
09:39:34 <Ampera> Allergic responses are specific overreactions to forreign (or sometimes not even forreign) substances entering the body by the immune system.
09:39:39 <DHess_US> Allergies are immune system related and have to do with histamines.
09:39:45 <Halcyon> I see
09:39:49 <DHess_US> Which is why you take anti-histmines to treat allergies.
09:39:50 <Ampera> That's why allergic reactions can often take the form of cold related symptoms.
09:39:56 <Halcyon> So your brain just hates you basically?
09:40:03 <Ampera> No, it's not a mental thing.
09:40:09 <Halcyon> It's his brain that hurts
09:40:10 <Ampera> It's an immunal thing.
09:40:28 <Halcyon> You're a mental thing Ampera
09:40:39 <Ampera> you're a cunt
09:40:45 <DHess_US> I'm not sure anybody quite understands migrains. They seem to be caused by positive feedback of a neurotransmitter.
09:40:48 <Halcyon> :)
09:40:59 <Halcyon> You're the Americunt
09:41:15 <Ampera> Just because something that entered the body caused an adverse response, doesn't make it an allergic response.
09:41:29 <Ampera> For example, cyanide will kill you, but not through an immune overreaction.
09:41:36 <Halcyon> No, I know
09:41:41 <steve30> no idea if he was cut or uncut
09:41:55 <Halcyon> Oh so not *that* revealing
09:42:03 <Ampera> why are you guys asking about some guy's junk from a gym?
09:42:04 <steve30> nope
09:42:07 <Halcyon> Yes Ampera
09:42:15 <Halcyon> What did you think cut/unc meant?
09:42:22 <Ampera> circumcized
09:42:25 <Halcyon> Indeed
09:42:38 <Ampera> my previous inquiry holds
09:42:47 * steve30 curls up around Halcyon's coffee cup
09:42:49 <Halcyon> Injury?
09:42:56 <Ampera> inquiry
09:42:59 <Halcyon> You're getting hair in my coffee
09:43:02 <Ampera> inquisition, question
09:43:12 <Halcyon> Oh sorry, I misread, I should stop reading two things at once
09:43:16 <Ampera> postulation
09:43:39 <Halcyon> Ampera: Because its fun, and we like guy's junk in the gym
09:43:41 <Ampera> so why are you going on about some random stranger's junk
09:43:54 <Halcyon> Straight guys look at boobs or whatever...
09:44:07 <Ampera> yes, but decent straight people don't start talking about it
09:44:14 <Ampera> that's creepy and how you get restraining orders
09:44:30 <Halcyon> Gay guys are very liberal
09:44:38 <Halcyon> And bullshit straight guys dont talk about it
09:44:39 <steve30> I sometimes like to talk about cute guys whom I come across. Halcyon seems to be the one who mentions the private parts.
09:44:46 <Ampera> I said decent straight people
09:44:52 <Halcyon> Lies
09:44:53 <Halcyon> They all do
09:45:03 <Ampera> then what, dear sir, exactly, am I?
09:45:12 <Halcyon> You mentioned his revealing shorts Steve, I'm just trying to get all the facts :)
09:45:20 <Halcyon> I don't know Ampera
09:45:51 <ThunderSqueak> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DwGUMqRX0AAF4yZ.jpg
09:46:11 <Ampera> don't worry, I'm an engineer
09:46:14 <Ampera> it all worked on paper
09:46:30 <Ampera> meatball grinder time
09:47:03 <Halcyon> https://imgflip.com/i/2qe9md
09:49:36 <steve30> I think its time for sleep :)
09:49:42 <Halcyon> Aww
09:49:52 <Halcyon> Goodnight Steve. Have a good birthday tomorrow *hugs*
09:50:07 <steve30> *hugs*
09:51:23 <Halcyon> I still want to buy a laptop
09:52:00 <rust_collector> I astill want a milling machine
09:52:30 <rust_collector> mmm, or a lathe. I would be ok if I had a lathe
09:52:43 <Halcyon> What would you do with it?
09:53:10 <rust_collector> clean it, polish it, oil it...
09:53:22 <Halcyon> And then?
09:53:27 <rust_collector> you know. post pics of it on facebook
09:53:36 <Halcyon> Hahaha
09:54:00 <Halcyon> Isn't Instagram the thing all the kids are using these days>
09:54:01 <Halcyon> ?
09:54:06 <Halcyon> Too many old people on Facebooks
09:54:09 <DHess_US> For small stuff they can be interchangable.
09:54:21 <rust_collector> I do not know your age, so I am not going to comment on that
09:54:51 <rust_collector> yes, and I keep going back and forth about which one I need first
09:55:19 <Halcyon> Early 30's
09:55:30 <DHess_US> rust_collector, watch this and this before buying a lathe. They are short. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05vUCdzhoe4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYOgmhpBUJs
09:56:08 <rust_collector> oh, right, I have seen those
09:56:28 <rust_collector> I am not sure, I hope I can get something a little bit larger
09:57:55 <rust_collector> I think TOT made the best video. hmm, was it "origins"?
09:59:09 <rust_collector> So, Halcyon... do you kids these days use instagram?
09:59:30 <Halcyon> I don't use any social media
09:59:34 <Halcyon> I'm also not a kid :P
09:59:48 <rust_collector> well...
09:59:56 <Halcyon> I guess compared to others I might me
10:00:01 <rust_collector> relative kid
10:01:50 <rust_collector> social media... yeah. I have that
10:04:22 <rust_collector> but, what would I do with a mill... I would probably spend most of the time making tools and adapters and stuff for the mill
10:04:48 <Halcyon> Another toasty day today
10:04:52 <Halcyon> 36C outside now
10:05:05 <rust_collector> yeah, it was 8 here. was nice
10:05:14 <rust_collector> 4 now
10:05:40 <rust_collector> I am not configured for 30+
10:07:50 <Halcyon> What age do you feel?
10:08:14 <rust_collector> hmm
10:09:39 <rust_collector> I think I feel like a well used 32yo
10:10:27 <coppice_> well used? Like low mileage, one careful owner?
10:11:00 <Ampera> MatCat is harassing the shit out of me on AfterNET
10:11:19 <coppice_> be bloody bold and resolute
10:11:21 <Ampera> every fucking day he keeps messaging me.
10:11:31 <Ampera> my idea is to ask jspiros to tell him to fuck off
10:12:53 <rust_collector> low mileage, no bushings and a flappy balljoint
10:12:59 <Halcyon> Why Ampera?
10:13:04 <Halcyon> About what?
10:13:18 <Ampera> just random crap
10:13:24 <Halcyon> Just /ignore ?
10:13:30 <Ampera> doesn't persist
10:13:39 <Halcyon> Don't use Afternet?
10:13:56 <Ampera> I actually enjoy talking to people there, and wouldn't leave on the account of MatCat.
10:13:59 <Ampera> but I thought about it
10:14:12 <Halcyon> Bring them here
10:14:27 <Halcyon> 70% of the users in there never say a word
10:14:40 <Ampera> almost thought you meant MatCat, which would be an awful idea
10:14:44 <Halcyon> Oh no
10:14:49 <Ampera> but people like enhanox, guesser, jspiros
10:14:51 <Halcyon> I don't know who he is so I don't really car
10:14:51 <Ampera> I enjoy talking to them
10:14:52 <Halcyon> care
10:15:00 <Halcyon> Yes enhanox is lovely
10:16:04 <Halcyon> I'm being all adult, updating my budget data
10:16:10 <Halcyon> It's actually kind of fun
10:17:01 <Ampera> just insulted him
10:17:08 <Halcyon> \o/
10:17:18 <Ampera> you know, hold on a second, this might actually be good, I can how say all the shit I wanted to say to him, but didn't because I didn't want to piss people off.
10:17:39 <Halcyon> I guess?
10:18:51 <rust_collector> I need a bigger trailer to haul away junk
10:19:02 <rust_collector> but then I would need a bigger car to pull it
10:19:15 <rust_collector> and...
10:19:26 <rust_collector> I should just buy a truck, I guess
10:19:43 <Ampera> I'm now insulting him for being fat
10:20:14 <Halcyon> Is he fat?
10:20:38 <Halcyon> rust_collector: You mean a ute :P
10:21:10 <Ampera> Sort of looks like pre-op boogie
10:21:35 <Halcyon> Hahaha I love you way with words Ampera
10:21:44 <Halcyon> I still think my favourite is when you called me "pasta"
10:22:24 <Ampera> I called you pasta?
10:22:30 <Halcyon> Yeah about 6 months ago
10:22:46 <Ampera> "Why do you live up on a hill away from everyone? Is it because every human you've tried to interact with filed a restraining order so they didn't have to stare at someone who looks like the Michelin man cleared out every bakery in town?"
10:22:46 <Halcyon> I don't recall the context but it was basically "you pasta"
10:22:48 <Ampera> that's what I said
10:23:05 <Halcyon> You big meanie :P
10:23:14 <Halcyon> I'm staying out of this
10:23:18 * Halcyon goes back to accounting
10:23:22 <Ampera> Insults are a true art.
10:23:31 <Halcyon> I just tell people to fuck off :)
10:23:44 <Ampera> You need to find something that really gets to someone, something that is likely personal and they've had to deal with being harassed about their whole lives.
10:26:30 <Halcyon> I know he's a fucktard but I generally don't stoop to their level
10:26:39 <Halcyon> Words and just words. Insults don't bother me.
10:27:36 <Ampera> ya fuckin cork
10:27:41 <Halcyon> Hahaha
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10:52:07 <rust_collector> I should find a "new" little desktop machine... nothing special, but it would be nice to be able to use some virtual machines and stuff
10:53:17 <Ampera> is this a request for help or a rhetorical statement?
10:54:00 <rust_collector> More just a statement, but if you have some ideas...
10:55:59 <Ampera> For me, when I look for a desktop, the first question is how much money do you want to spend on it.
10:56:12 <rust_collector> this thing actually works pretty good, but it is that virtual machine thing that it does not handle well. I could see if the little core duo machine out in the garage would support one of the cpus I have laying around.
10:56:28 <Ampera> What is your machine now?
10:57:28 <rust_collector> this thing is an asus vivopc. uhmm, vc62, I think it was called. has an older i3, and 8 gigs of ram
10:59:12 <rust_collector> Type: Desktop Mobo: ASUSTeK model: VC60 v: Rev X.0x serial: <root required>
10:59:13 <rust_collector> BIOS: ASUSTeK (Licensed from AMI) v: 1301 date: 03/07/2018
10:59:13 <rust_collector> CPU: Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Core i3-3110M bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Ivy Bridge
10:59:15 <rust_collector> rev: 9 L2 cache: 3072 KiB
10:59:18 <rust_collector> flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 19156
10:59:58 <rust_collector> I think it is supposed to be a tv/media sort of thing
11:00:21 <Ampera> This actually might end up being a good thing, because I'd bet you could stick a Sandy/Ivy Bridge i7 in that and make it fly.
11:00:33 <Ampera> nvm, just saw the M
11:00:54 <Ampera> but if you're looking into scraping the budget down with second hand gear, a famous hack is Sandy Bridge i7
11:01:14 <rust_collector> well, it is more than fast enough. I just want the vt-x and that
11:01:24 <Ampera> what's your budget?
11:01:37 <rust_collector> well, not much, as it is very low on my list
11:01:45 <Ampera> how much not much
11:02:28 <rust_collector> hmm, say... $150 +/- a bit.
11:02:30 <Ampera> I mean I can suggest you anything from a raspi to a dual core epyc machine.
11:02:39 <Ampera> 150.
11:02:57 <Ampera> my suggestion then is to hawk Craigstlist and try to find a good deal at that price point.
11:03:21 <Ampera> Since that's a mobile board, you won't be swapping the CPU out any time soon, not unless it's socketed, but even then you might as well not bother.
11:03:30 <Ampera> although...
11:05:53 <rust_collector> but... for vm stuff.... is there anything other than cpu speed that helps? does a decent graphics card do anything for that? stuff like that?
11:06:00 <Ampera> Yeah, previous advice to craigstlist.
11:06:09 <Ampera> It's largely CPU speed and RAM size.
11:06:32 <rust_collector> ok, great!
11:06:41 <Ampera> I mean look at blade servers that run things like Zen hypervisors, they don't ususally have packing GPUs, not unless they are doing something with balls to the walls number crunching.
11:07:19 <Ampera> I'd look at Intel only for stuff off Craigstlist, Sandy/Ivy Bridge i7s are good, they are cheap, and people are still getting rid of them.
11:07:41 <rust_collector> good good. thanks
11:07:42 <Ampera> Pick hand builts over OEMs ususally, but try to see the PSUs if they are shit or not.
11:08:28 <Ampera> AMD might be okay for you if you can find something like a Phenom 2 x4 or better.
11:08:55 <Ampera> Other ideas are laptops, if you can find one with an Intel chip spec to virtualize, you might even be able to take the RAM and drive out of your VIvoPC and stick it in there.
11:09:27 <rust_collector> I do have laptops that can do all I need, but I just like having a desktop, for some reason
11:09:50 <rust_collector> and yes, it uses laptop ram and drive
11:11:06 <Ampera> well then just sink money into a docking station
11:11:31 <Ampera> if your budget was a tad higher I'd suggest a surface pro, because they are pretty packy PCs, especially if you can snatch a good deal on a used one.
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11:30:30 <rust_collector> well, I will just keep an eye open. thanks for your thoughts
11:35:39 <rust_collector> but, it is time for a nap. good night
11:35:59 <Halcyon> Goodnight
11:37:06 <Ampera> Halcyon, do you watch The Orville?
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11:38:51 <Halcyon> I don't
11:39:13 <Ampera> you should
11:39:18 <Halcyon> Maybe I will
11:39:18 <Ampera> it's engaging and hilarious
11:39:38 <Ampera> It's like a modernized TNG with comedic releif
11:39:40 <Halcyon> I need to poop
11:40:23 <Ampera> Halcyon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oX_m7U4u5M
11:44:55 <Halcyon> This is why the world is fucked
11:47:52 <DHess_US> rust_collector, for $120 you can get a 2(4) core Ryzen 200GE and motherboard which supports ECC. Stick it into a SFF and away it goes.
11:48:17 <DHess_US> Built in graphics so no GPU needed.
11:50:10 <DHess_US> Orville is great. They make fun of and parody all kinds of Hollywood drek including Star Wars.
11:50:44 <DHess_US> It's basically a big fuck you to modern Hollywood shows.
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12:29:43 <DHess_US> Ok, it's Friday night, I got my popcorn, I got my soda, and I got my Orville. Hit it.
12:32:31 <Halcyon> I'll be back soon, just fiddling with my network, update firmwares on things etc...
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16:46:20 <Halcyon> Rar
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19:09:47 <Halcyon> Stupid NBN
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19:42:36 * steve30 waves
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20:15:48 <Halcyon> Happy birthday Steve!
20:15:55 <Halcyon> :D
20:16:25 <Halcyon> If I had your number I'd give you a birthday phone call, but this will have to do
20:30:27 * steve30 purrs at Halcyon
20:30:52 <Halcyon> :)
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