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06:16:31 Topic Is: Official IRC channel of the EEVBlog - www.eevblog.com
06:16:31 Set By: (ChanOP) on: Wed Dec 19 21:26:24 2018
06:16:31 <T3sl4> o/
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06:16:31 <Ampera> I call chilli a load of vegetable shit I can't eat.
06:16:31 <Ampera> I keep missing ya, Halcyon, you're up too early for me. :(
06:16:31 <T3sl4> filthy bogan he is
06:16:31 <K> Problem: need to switch polarity of max 10A with an MCU. There are PCB size/space concerns.
06:16:31 <K> 1) Propper discrete h-bridge is clunky.
06:16:31 <K> 2) Some integrated driver seems to be overkill.
06:16:31 <K> 3) A DPDT relay is rather big.
06:16:32 <K> What do?
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06:16:32 <DHess_US> K, H-briidge is the way to go.
06:16:32 <DHess_US> Use discrete transistors and an integrated driver.
06:16:32 <K> can you suggest a driver?
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07:15:10 <DHess_US> K, without nowing more like the voltages, no.
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10:48:47 <DANOTRONIX> hi
10:48:52 <DANOTRONIX> anyone here?
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10:54:44 <T3sl4> nope
10:56:19 <K> 'tis just us, chickens
12:29:58 <DogWomble> bok bok bok
12:31:51 * Ampera burns DogWomble
12:32:22 <DogWomble> And that's how they make KFC
12:33:02 <Ampera> stop looking at my porn
12:33:14 <Ampera> now I have to search my computer for RATs
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19:24:25 <Halcyon> Hey Ampera :)
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21:00:44 <Ampera> did you just hey me, Halcyon?
21:00:48 <Halcyon> Yup
21:00:52 <Halcyon> A little while ago
21:00:56 <Ampera> surprise motherfucker
21:00:57 <Ampera> I'm awake
21:01:01 <Halcyon> \o/
21:01:09 <Halcyon> It's evening here, you're usually around then
21:01:21 <Ampera> no, it's 5AM, I've been trying to not do that so much
21:01:38 <Ampera> I've switched window managers, I'm currently using i3
21:02:22 <Halcyon> Ah fair enough
21:02:50 <Halcyon> I'm going to head to bed soon, I'm pooped
21:02:59 <Halcyon> It's been a long week, 1 more day to go until the weekend
21:03:40 <Ampera> aight
21:03:50 <Ampera> I'm probably going to fall asleep a bit more.
21:03:53 <Ampera> maybe
21:04:01 <Halcyon> Aww
21:04:35 <Ampera> I'll stick around
21:05:08 <Halcyon> :D
21:05:16 <Halcyon> I'll be up for a little bit, maybe 20 minutes or so
21:07:31 <Halcyon> Sooooo....
21:08:06 <Ampera> Federal government is still shut
21:08:15 <Halcyon> Shut
21:08:16 <Halcyon> ?
21:08:21 <Ampera> massive clusterfuck, basically down to who coughs first.
21:08:32 <Halcyon> What's going on with your government?
21:08:39 <Ampera> it's shut down
21:08:44 <Ampera> been like that for days.
21:08:47 <Halcyon> Why?
21:08:59 <Ampera> Funding disagreements, red wants a border wall, blue doesn't.
21:09:12 <Halcyon> Soooo the country just shuts down?
21:09:18 <Ampera> No, just the federal government.
21:09:25 <Halcyon> So what does that mean?
21:09:27 <Ampera> State governments (which are the important ones most of the time) still operate.
21:09:40 <Ampera> However, all federal workers, with some exceptions, go without pay.
21:09:45 <Halcyon> Ouch
21:09:51 <Halcyon> That would fucking suck
21:09:53 <Ampera> They either stay home, find work elsewhere, or if they are unlucky, legally obligated to work for free.
21:10:04 <Ampera> because they aren't allowed to leave during a pay cut.
21:10:08 <Halcyon> Thankfully that's not a thing here
21:10:16 <Ampera> Why not?
21:10:29 <Halcyon> They can't just stop paying you
21:10:31 <Ampera> What happens when your government doesn't pass legistlation that funds itself?
21:10:32 <Halcyon> It's not a thing
21:10:40 <Ampera> What if they run out of money and can't borrow more
21:10:55 <Ampera> all funding in the US is approved as it's spent or borrowed.
21:10:56 <Halcyon> Taxes and GST pays for most things
21:11:15 <Halcyon> Not sure about the rest of the country but our state is actually in surplus
21:11:20 <Ampera> Same here, but we spend each dollar within term based budgets.
21:11:36 <Halcyon> Yeh as I said, they will find money, they can't just not pay people
21:11:42 <Ampera> State governments and federal government are seperate, states being subset to federal.
21:11:46 <Halcyon> I know
21:11:58 <Ampera> When the federal government shuts down, the states sort of take over in a way. Day to day life for most people does not change.
21:12:13 <Ampera> That's why I said they are more important.
21:12:27 <Halcyon> We don't have state equivalents of what federal does. There isn't really cross-over.
21:12:39 <Ampera> cross over?
21:12:42 <Halcyon> Police exclused
21:12:45 <Halcyon> *excluded
21:13:03 <Halcyon> Well there is no state departments to "take over" federal roles
21:13:19 <Halcyon> Also, people here, no pay = no work.
21:13:19 <Ampera> I mean there are a lot of federal only services. Organizations that manage federal land, federally subsidized educational, transportation, and other infrastructural services.
21:13:39 <Ampera> Same here for most federal jobs.
21:14:00 <Ampera> but it doesn't really take over, they keep on doing what they do, it's just that they are the highest part of the US that's still working.
21:14:24 <Ampera> They do actually pay for some stuff the federal government doesn't sometimes, if it's important. For example New York is paying to keep the statue of liberty and ellis island open.
21:14:31 <Halcyon> I just can't fathom employees being told not to come to work (because they won't get paid) or to work for free.
21:14:58 <Ampera> I don't know the exact precedence for being compulsed to come to work, or what the penalty is.
21:15:00 <Halcyon> Casuals, sure, that's a different thing, but not permanent employees.
21:15:05 <Ampera> I don't know if it's a criminal offense, or if you'll just get fired.
21:15:13 <Halcyon> It's written into legislation, there is no exemption for a "government shutdown"
21:15:29 <Ampera> but things like TSA "aren't allowed" to just leave
21:15:49 <Halcyon> Understandably, but here, they would still be getting paid
21:16:48 <Ampera> Here, there's money there quite often, it just hasn't been spent.
21:17:12 <Ampera> As far as I am aware, they can't sign in an, until ceased budgetary element.
21:17:19 <Ampera> I don't know why not, but I don't recall it being done.
21:17:28 <Halcyon> *shrug*
21:17:35 <Halcyon> Well hopefully they cut the crap and sort their shit out
21:17:49 <Ampera> This one seems like they're setting in for a long one.
21:18:05 <Ampera> There is no limit to how long the shutdown lasts, and all of congress still gets paid
21:18:09 <Ampera> which is stupid
21:19:09 <Halcyon> Agreed
21:20:55 <Halcyon> I'm watching Colin Furze's Alexa activated flamethrower
21:21:57 <Ampera> Colin Furze projects go from interesting to absolutely boring and stupid for me.
21:22:13 <Ampera> That falls under boring and stupid.
21:22:29 <Halcyon> I like his attention to detail when building things
21:23:33 <DogWomble> i haven't watched his stuff in a while, i do like it though - it's basically him coming up with stupid ideas and just running with tnhem
21:23:42 <Ampera> oh, that reminds me, Halcyon.
21:23:51 <Halcyon> Mmm ?
21:23:56 <Ampera> people got upset when I made toast
21:23:59 <Ampera> on afternet
21:24:04 <Halcyon> OK ?
21:24:10 <Ampera> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/310478241989263371/532723859368181771/IMG_20190109_195340.jpg
21:24:25 <Ampera> actually the best toast I had ever made
21:24:29 <Ampera> but everybody else hated it
21:24:39 <Halcyon> Heheh looks very well done :)
21:24:55 <Ampera> It is.
21:25:01 <Ampera> Perfect char
21:25:07 <Halcyon> Each to their own :)
21:25:10 <Halcyon> I don't mind a little black
21:25:27 <Halcyon> Also, hey Tim
21:25:36 * DogWomble waves
21:30:55 <Halcyon> Anyway I'm off to bed
21:31:01 <Halcyon> Goodnight guys
21:31:05 <Ampera> nighty
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