#eevblog - 2019-01-17 - AustNet Archive Project

// #eevblog — 2019-01-17

1996 1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016
Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31
« 2019-01-16 2019-01-18 »
42:44 Quit: Guest|85980 ([email protected]) Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client
30:39 <DHess_US> https://img.pr0gramm.com/2019/01/16/89c22c53320556b5.jpg
53:19 Quit: MrMobodies ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
54:27 Join: MrMobodies ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
10:20 Join: Chipguy ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
15:47 Quit: steve30 ([email protected]) EOF from client
21:22 Join: steve30 ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
21:32 Mode: (by ChanOP) +o steve30
46:06 <Ampera> Halcyon: Class act against the men down under: https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1085697728565325824
47:04 <T3sl4> hah
48:03 <Ampera> My god is whoever forced them to apologize sexist.
48:32 <Ampera> It's barely even sexism, it's just complaining that one sex has a stereotypical group of traits that are somehow wreaking havoc on the world, and all men are responsible for that.
49:37 <T3sl4> now see, you've got the right idea
49:41 <T3sl4> you don't discriminate
49:49 <T3sl4> you're just toxic to everyone :>
51:34 <Ampera> There you go, I think everyone is equally garbage.
51:44 <Ampera> It's a damn sad fact that I'm right more often than I'm wrong.
02:34 Join: Guest|72379 ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
03:12 Quit: Guest|72379 ([email protected]) Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client
05:38 Quit: Chipguy ([email protected]) Quit: Connection closed by foreign host
06:32 <T3sl4> https://imgur.com/gallery/dborG2H
55:39 <Ampera> How is it with four monitors I still find myself occasionally running out of places to put things?
21:39 <ServalSpots> Because you got those silly LCDs. If you'd gotten CRTs they'd double as shelves
22:12 <T3sl4> you should stack the LCDs front to back, not side to side
22:17 <T3sl4> then things wouldn't fall off of them
24:15 <ServalSpots> *nods* wise
31:21 <seaner> :)
35:07 <Ampera> I meant onscreen, wise asses
37:12 <Ampera> oh man I'm gonna be excited when I finish watching TOS
42:00 <coppice> Terms of service?
45:50 <Ampera> The Original Series of Star Trek
47:19 <coppice> so, Star Trek
47:34 <Ampera> yes, but I wanted to specify.
25:43 Join: mrpackethead ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
01:05 <mrpackethead> what are we arguing about
02:21 <steve30> nothing at the moment
05:40 <T3sl4> hi mrpackethead
14:45 <mrpackethead> what no argument.. did the aliens come...
15:06 <T3sl4> we can start one if you like
15:12 <T3sl4> your mother was a hamster!
24:33 <Ampera> Fuck you and your electric ass shoes, T3sl4
34:35 <T3sl4> The reason everyone's walking on down to Electric Avenue is because my electric ass shoes walked it first.
35:40 Join: jdthebushwalker ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
37:20 Quit: bigbadwolv ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
43:32 Quit: mrpackethead ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
54:30 * Halcyon prods at T3sl4 
17:22 Join: ThunderSqueak ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
17:23 Mode: (by ChanOP) +o ThunderSqueak
18:50 <ThunderSqueak> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_B-5KQCXuc
18:59 <ThunderSqueak> just hooked up my N64
19:01 <ThunderSqueak> o.o
19:34 <Ampera> Eyyyyyy, Halcyon
25:01 <Halcyon> Hey Amps
25:05 <Halcyon> What's doing?
31:00 <Ampera> not much
31:15 <Ampera> Halcyon (didn't see your message)
31:23 <Halcyon> :)
31:27 <Ampera> I'm currently watching Star Trek
31:35 * ThunderSqueak is watching anime
31:50 <Ampera> banime?
32:25 <ThunderSqueak> Noragami
32:59 <Ampera> noodles
33:44 <ThunderSqueak> forgot how bad the N64 looks XD
33:46 <Ampera> I honestly find TOS so annoyingly written I have to take a break from watching it.
34:10 <Ampera> You know, people rag on the N64, but I like how mid-late 90's 3D graphics look.
34:43 <Ampera> I mean for one the N64 was probably played through composite video connections on shit TVs, so I don't expect it to have a legacy of particularly sharp visuals
34:49 <ThunderSqueak> yeah, but atm it is in the living room, hooked to a 75"ish hdtv
34:53 <Ampera> but even on an emulator, I don't think it's annoying or bad to look at.
34:55 <ThunderSqueak> see all the flawss :P
35:01 <Ampera> how did you hook it up?
35:17 <ThunderSqueak> right now, just through an upscaler, my framemeister is upstairs
35:26 Quit: Halcyon ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
35:40 <Ampera> I meant through what manner of video connection
35:43 <ThunderSqueak> I am going to get an ultra64 hdmi for it eventually
35:47 <Ampera> composite? RGB? YPbPr?
35:48 <ThunderSqueak> oh, just composite atm
36:00 <Ampera> well that's probably why it looks like deep fried ass
36:15 <ThunderSqueak> yep
36:29 <ThunderSqueak> but the upscaler I am using is usually for 8 bit consoles
36:32 <ThunderSqueak> works great for nes
36:45 <ThunderSqueak> but the 64 through it looks like ass :>
37:14 <Ampera> Lower resolutions ususally look fine through composite, my NES does through it.
37:23 <ThunderSqueak> yes
37:27 * ThunderSqueak is aware
37:42 <Ampera> but apparently all that's on there is composite and S-Video, which is a pretty ass selection.
37:47 * ThunderSqueak is a collector of retro consoles and hardware and is very familiar with it
38:11 <Ampera> yes, I'm not telling you, I'm discussing it with you.
38:28 <ThunderSqueak> but anyway, yeah I want to pick up an ultra64 for it
38:33 <Ampera> also Halcyon's out, quick, burn down the channel
38:36 <ThunderSqueak> it is a minor mod, but gives a good effect
38:53 <Ampera> Never heard of those, what exactly does it do?
39:03 <Ampera> Wikipedia article says some earlier N64s had RGB on the board
39:14 <Ampera> does it just tap into that?
39:27 <ThunderSqueak> it pulls directly off the video internally, and upscales to a proper HDMI with filters to make it look right
39:34 <Ampera> personally my experience is more with PCs.
40:02 <Ampera> well I more asked how it does that, because if the DAC doesn't have an RGB output and it needs that, then that could be an issue.
40:11 <Ampera> but my primary interest is curiosity.
40:24 <ThunderSqueak> https://youtu.be/z6orhckbI7w?t=231
41:18 <Ampera> Damn thing looks like it's running an entire FPGA setup, so I guess that just replaces the DAC.
41:29 <Ampera> no wonder why it's so expensive
41:49 <Ampera> Neat regardless.
41:53 <ThunderSqueak> yeah
42:07 <ThunderSqueak> doing the mod myself is easy
42:23 <ThunderSqueak> so, just going to as soon as someone gets them back in stock
42:38 <Ampera> I've never even held an N64, it's probably the one Nintendo console I have pretty much no on hand experience with
42:41 <Ampera> that and the SNES
42:48 <Ampera> and the Gamecube (not counting my Wii)
43:22 <Ampera> but I do hope to pick up an N64 one of these days, it has one of my favourite game libraries of any Nintendo console.
43:56 <Ampera> Isn't exactly taxing competition, considering the NES was quality russian roulette, and I just don't really like the SNES.
44:39 Quit: decoy ([email protected]) Quit: WeeChat 2.3
45:35 <ThunderSqueak> in the living room downstairs, I have a wii u, sega master system, famicom, n64 and ps3
45:55 <ThunderSqueak> the wii u was a really underrated console imho
46:10 <Ampera> Let's see, even though I'm not a big console person, I have an NES, Genesis, Dreamcast, Wii, and Wii U.
46:22 <ThunderSqueak> the switch is having issues these days
46:30 <ThunderSqueak> lots of failures :/
46:34 <Ampera> I think the Switch is the worst home console ever released by a major company.
46:35 <ThunderSqueak> the dock scratches it
46:46 <Ampera> Does it?
46:46 <ThunderSqueak> the heat is causing the plastic to crack and warp
46:49 <ThunderSqueak> yes
46:53 <Ampera> fucking kek
47:04 <Ampera> add those to the fucking mountain of massive gaping issues with the Switch.
47:37 <Ampera> I mean the Wii U had various issues IMO, it was underpowered, the tablet gimmick was stupid, and there were pretty much no games.
47:39 <ThunderSqueak> they even come pre warped out of the box
48:04 <ThunderSqueak> yeah, but even so..I like the wii u
48:08 <Ampera> Well, my nvidia shield, each one I've owned has banana'd (I've had a lot of RMAs for other issues).
48:10 <ThunderSqueak> currently playing zelda on it
48:32 <Ampera> It's good for homebrew, but it currently sits in a drawer for me to turn it on, play Quake for five mintues, and then put it back in the drawer
48:35 Join: Halcyon ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
48:43 Quit: Halcyon ([email protected]) Changing hosts
48:43 Join: Halcyon ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
48:44 <Ampera> because everything I can do on a Wii U I can do on a PC for my uses at least.
48:47 <ThunderSqueak> https://8bitbudgies.files.wordpress.com/2018/03/crack.jpg?w=1100
48:53 <ThunderSqueak> that is where they are cracking from the heat
49:01 <Ampera> How's the No Bandwidth Network there, Halcyon?
49:11 <Ampera> hot fuck
49:14 <Halcyon> Oh that was me
49:19 <Halcyon> I updated my router
49:37 <Ampera> lol
49:50 <Ampera> I installed pfsense ages ago and never updated it once
50:21 <Ampera> which, honestly, is probably not that big of a deal, we never updated our router before then, and there was no firmware support on them for years anyways
50:24 <Halcyon> I keep everything updated
50:34 <Ampera> I do if it's Linux. I hate updating Windows.
50:39 <Halcyon> Its not a bit deal but I like to be running the latest firmware/BIOS on everything
50:46 <Halcyon> *big
50:48 <ThunderSqueak> https://static1.squarespace.com/static/55ef0e29e4b099e22cdc9eea/t/58e24b765016e1f19b26c1e4/1491225549181/?format=1500w
50:49 <Ampera> My tablet will just do it on it's own, which is alright I guess, it lays dormant for much of the day anyways
50:54 <ThunderSqueak> that is what the heat is also doing to them
51:04 <Ampera> Yeah my Shield Tab did that.
51:25 <Ampera> However I can unhinge my trap for half an hour just going on about how bad the Switch is.
51:37 <ThunderSqueak> tbh, I did not pickup a switch because it was too much like a tablet
51:54 <Ampera> You want to know what? I didn't buy a Switch because it wasn't enough like a tablet.
52:09 <Ampera> There isn't even a web browser on it, no transparent file system, no app ecosystem at all
52:14 <ThunderSqueak> if I want a tablet, I will buy a tablet
52:37 <Ampera> It's tiny, it's hot, the battery life is awful, the charger isn't standard (though the connector is), the games are awful if they aren't Nintendo, and boring if they are.
52:52 <ThunderSqueak> yeah
53:08 <Ampera> I've been using tablets for years, and wouldn't mind buying a Nintendo tablet if it ran Android, and gave me tablet features.
53:12 <ThunderSqueak> just not enough to entice me
53:16 <Halcyon> Gawd there are more OpenVPN settings here than you can poke a stick at
53:17 <Ampera> You know, since they aren't going to give it performance anyways.
53:43 <Ampera> pfsense is like a fucking mad technician's experiment gone wrong, there's so much bullshit you can do to it
53:51 <Halcyon> I know
53:58 <Halcyon> I have NFI which ECDH curve to pick
54:07 <Ampera> probably would even be really useful if I know what the hell I was even doing, but it's a firewall and does NAT, I'm happy.
54:27 <Ampera> I don't even know what ECDH is, and had to sit and think as to what NFI was.
54:45 <Ampera> ThunderSqueak, I think the most hilarious fuck up that Nintendo has commited to it is their online service.
55:09 <Halcyon> Elliptic-curve Diffie–Hellman
55:11 <ThunderSqueak> their online stuff is a joke
55:38 <Ampera> Here's how their online service works: the network is a paid p2p service (no dedicated servers for your money), and one switch initiates the match. This is done through a matchmaking server that will literally pick a random UDP port, and tell all switches to communicate on that one port for the match.
56:12 <Ampera> So that means if you have, you know, a firewall, that blocks random UDP ports from being used, then you're fucked.
56:54 <Ampera> Nintendo's official solution, on their website, is to put your Switch, yes your Nintendo, the company who has had multiple, and remains to have unpatched ACE exploits on their Wii U browser, Switch into a network DMZ
57:48 <Ampera> Instead of using, you know, TCP, and putting that money into few racks of servers.
58:14 <Ampera> Halcyon, I'll pretend to know what the Diffie-Hellman you're on about.
00:00 <Ampera> I mean the industry has had some real fucking jokes of consoles, the Saturn and Jaguar are examples for basically lobbing a bunch of complicated coprocessors in a box and telling developers to, lol figure that shit out m8
00:47 <Ampera> However at least they didn't significantly compromise the security of the rest of the computers on an entire network just to use core functionality you have to pay extra for
36:56 <ThunderSqueak> https://twitter.com/ThunderSqueakAK/status/1085829302640201729
43:51 <coppice> Finding a bendy toy with its head up its arse is more disturbing
47:38 Quit: ThunderSqueak ([email protected]) Quit: Leaving
34:05 Join: xDR1TeK ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
34:12 <xDR1TeK> howdy
36:32 <steve30> hi
04:36 <Halcyon> Hey mate
04:40 <Halcyon> Hi Steve :)
05:15 Quit: jdthebushwalker ([email protected]) Quit:
06:07 <steve30> afternoon Halcyon
06:24 <Halcyon> It's wayyyy past my bed time, have work in the morning
06:30 <Halcyon> I best go
06:44 <steve30> good night :)
Search this day's buffer: