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03:59 <wm> ah
04:01 <wm> hello Tashes
18:08 <Relaxer> booooooooooooored
22:55 <Relaxer> well managed to sell off my dragonmaster outcasts.
23:02 <Relaxer> money in the bank
23:54 <wm> i heard the magic card market is messy right now
29:38 <Relaxer> it is because a new set just came out, so prices are in flux.
42:21 <Steven1> yeahyado
42:36 <Relaxer> but i wasnt selling any newer card.
54:58 <Mekkis> have you seen the bones tengu minis?
55:01 <Mekkis> they look awesome
05:47 <s_gmusic> new sets can still screw with older card prices because of trying to figure out if junk things will be relevant or if good things will go bad
23:06 <Steven1> nope havent seen any minis
51:08 <Steven1> yo
05:53 <Steven1> hows everyne doin this fine day?
06:59 <s_gmusic> http://i.imgur.com/yeiJ2h6.png
06:53 <Mekkis> !spell spiritual weapon
06:58 <diebot> Mekkis, SPIRITUAL WEAPON evocation ([force]) cleric/oracle 2, inquisitor 2, shaman 2 1 standard action Range: medium (100 ft. + 10 ft./level)  Comp: V, S, DF Duration: 1 round/level (D) Save: none SR:yesSource: PFRPG Core
06:58 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/spiritual_weapon.html
14:11 <Mekkis> !spell beast shape IV
14:11 <diebot> Mekkis, BEAST SHAPE IV transmutation (polymorph[]) sorcerer/wizard 6, alchemist 6, magus 6 1 standard action Range: personal you Comp: V, S, M (a piece of the creature whose form you plan to assume) Duration: 1 min./level Save:  SR:Source: PFRPG Core
14:12 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/beast_shape_iv.html
38:55 <Avatar> airport security?
39:06 <Relaxer> suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuup
39:37 <Avatar> sup
42:48 <Avatar> they don't make any sense at all
42:58 <Avatar> it is funny because "monty python". what?
46:06 <Lintor> hey is the player consent rule for a table of seven a actual rule or is it just one of those things i have heard bandid about?
48:02 <Relaxer> Watchin a tv show
48:09 <Relaxer> eatin some dark chocolate
48:48 <Relaxer> drinkin some coffee
49:39 <Relaxer> tryin to reduce this headache a bit
59:57 <Avatar> probably the bandid thing
00:09 <Avatar> it's not an actual rule, but I can't tell what your alternative option means
02:13 <Lintor> yeah we have people on a wiat list for a game, not enough for a second table and i don't wanna burn a game on a seven player table even less when the last player on the wait list is someone i avoid gaming with in general
02:45 <Avatar> yeah event organiser's call
03:09 <Avatar> turning someone away is generally a no-no
03:16 <Avatar> for an online game it's easy to enforce
04:18 <Mekkis> I love how disputing a fine with the NCA has so far cost me $2.10.
04:23 <Mekkis> In postage fees.
04:28 <Avatar> charge it to them
05:07 <Mekkis> if they take me to court over it, I will
06:15 <Avatar> reduce it by relaxin
10:15 <Relaxer> thats why it hasnt gotten any worse
11:15 <steven> well that was a lot of fun.
12:00 <Lintor> yeah put my thoughts on the facebook post regarding it. 
12:10 <Lintor> i will prob drop out if they force it
12:20 <Mekkis> oh?
25:19 <Steven1> it wasnt a lot of fun... we got fucking destroyed.
25:26 <Steven1> party of 5 level 4s
25:34 <Steven1> back to back cr8 encounters
25:56 <Steven1> no wait, cr8 followed by cr7
28:58 <Steven1> got me a 6th level character i have to make.
30:17 <Relaxer> whatcha guys talkin bout
33:31 <Mekkis> http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2sgft?Can-I-just-retire-my-character-early
33:35 <Mekkis> This thread makes me sad
33:57 <Mekkis> If I had a free rebuild boon, I'd give it to the OP of that thread.
40:47 <Avatar> [17:42] <Lintor> hey is the player consent rule for a table of seven a actual rule or is it just one of those things i have heard bandid about?
42:03 <Avatar> I'm sure it's only a matter of time before his class changes in some way
48:23 <Mekkis> make a character who specialises in Circle of Death
48:26 <Relaxer> im asking what player consent rule is.
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51:36 <Avatar> I assumed he meant do you need everyone's consent to allow a 7th player at the table
53:27 <Relaxer> Never heard of that.  I know some people don't like playing at 7 player tables but i've never heard of a rule that states you have to get permission to do so.
01:04 <Steven1> first encounter 6 shadows followed by a level 8 shadow dancer.... all the strength damage.... for evers
01:23 <Mekkis> !spell Explosion Of Rot
01:29 <diebot> Mekkis, EXPLOSION OF ROT necromancy ([]) druid 4 1 standard action Range: close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels)  Comp: V, S, M (a rotting flower) Duration: instantaneous Save: Reflex half; see text SR:yesSource: Champions Of Balance
01:30 <diebot> You call forth a burst of decay that ravages all creatures in the area. Even nonliving creatures, such as constructs or undead, wither in this malignant eruption of rotting energy. Creatures in the area of effect take 1d6 points of damage per caster level (maximum 15d6) and are staggered for 1d4 rounds. A successful Reflex saving throw halves the
01:30 <diebot> damage taken and negates the staggered effect. Plant creatures are particularly susceptible to this rotting effect; any plant creatures caught in the burst are staggered for 1d4 rounds even on a successful saving throw.
08:56 <Avatar> has anyone defined what a weapon-like object is
08:59 <Avatar> yet
09:25 <Avatar> I can't be the only one who will expect some table variation on common items there
23:09 <Relaxer> I have decided what my charcter will be.
24:27 <Relaxer> Gonna make a Witch doctor
25:08 <Relaxer> thats not a witch
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51:31 <Avatar> that's all he does all day long
51:35 <Avatar> he just practises circle of death
52:32 <Avatar> his backstory can be that he was abused as a child by his necromancer father and the boy bided his time and casted finger of death on him
52:43 <Mekkis> circle of death :)
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12:06 <Steven1> !throw 1d10
12:07 <diebot> Steven1, 1d10: [1d10=6] 6
12:40 <Steven1> suppose i should throw in boons i have.
12:49 <Steven1> nah fuck it.
58:22 <Relaxer> What about if the situation was reversed, What if the necromancer was standing at the end of the scenario and refused to heal the inquisitor because he wants another corpse to animate?
58:47 <Mekkis> has the inquisitor gone out of his way to troll the necromancer?
59:32 <Relaxer> according to the OP they were both antagonistic toward each other before the whole situation.
59:46 <Mekkis> really? It seemed pretty one-sided
00:10 <Relaxer> you gotta read the whole like 170 post thread.
00:35 <Relaxer> its sprinkled in all throughout the thread... horribly presented.
00:36 <Mekkis> I did
01:55 <Mekkis> The inquisitor was already compromising himself after the corpse was animated
02:59 <Relaxer> the necromancer compromised by not casting animate spells, and then obviously something changed.
03:26 <Relaxer> mmmmmmmmm donut
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20:44 <Mekkis> he shouldn't have prepared it to start with.
23:08 <Relaxer> there was a quote.
23:35 <Relaxer> from the fox that i favorited
23:38 <Relaxer> "It's what my character would do" is the one of the worst excuses to play in a way that makes the game less fun for other players at the table.
23:38 <Relaxer> There were multiple instances of that in this story.
25:11 <Relaxer> in more positive news.
25:19 <Relaxer> I'm getting to go to Pax Prime again.
26:12 <Avatar> Mekkis: it breaks the don't be a jerk rule
26:19 <Avatar> "it's what my character would do" isn't an excuse
26:27 <Avatar> that kind of trumps everything
26:39 <Avatar> it was otherwise good roleplay on his part
26:46 <Avatar> if you ignore that
27:09 <Avatar> it would have been a better solution to heal him at the last second, if he knew when he was going to die
27:54 <Avatar> a good GM should allow the inquisitor to say "I heal him, but only at the last moment before he dies"
28:08 <Avatar> without risk that the character will actually die, even if he can't do a heal check
29:23 <Relaxer> if that happened to me, my necromancer would have 'seen the light' and never brought another creature back... but hey its not us, its two dick bags off in internet land.
30:51 <Avatar> internet land?
31:08 <Avatar> what does the internet have to do with it
32:52 <Relaxer> it was posted on the internet
33:03 <Relaxer> so i count them as internet land dickbags
33:30 <Avatar> that's a very generalised accusation
33:36 <Relaxer> thats how i roll
33:47 <Avatar> very stereotypical
33:58 <Avatar> very discriminatory
34:01 <Relaxer> muhahahaahahaha
34:08 <Avatar> alarmingly relaxed about it all
34:33 <Relaxer> If you want i can go change into my vigilante persona
34:54 <Avatar> this is your vigilante persona
35:04 <Relaxer> nah, this is my social persona
35:14 <Avatar> don't know about that
35:20 <Avatar> looks pretty vigilante to me
35:53 <Relaxer> i might be a vigilante archetype that has mutliple personas
36:04 <Avatar> you're trying to tell me clark kent is the vigilante persona
36:27 <Relaxer> technically yes clark kent is the alter ego
39:56 <Steven1> now i have seen the tengu minis
40:46 <Mekkis> Relaxer, s_gmusic: Interested in buying any of my cards?
42:06 <Relaxer> I doubt you'd want to sell them to me, I'd buy them as a store buys them.
42:10 <Mekkis> Relaxer, if it were my necromancer, I wouldn't have prepared animate dead if I knew that I was with a Pharasman
42:34 <Mekkis> Are you saying that you would have?
42:44 <Relaxer> Yeah.
43:35 <Relaxer> Why should my character play around his character's decision, He isnt changing his deity to make playing with me easier.
43:50 <Avatar> maybe he should
44:03 <Avatar> choose your religion or choose your organisation
44:09 <Mekkis> Because you're in the pathfinder society, and you both need to be willing to compromise in order to complete a mission?
44:11 <Avatar> or WALK THE LINE !
44:22 <Avatar> then you run into inquisitors who leave necromancers to die
45:05 <Mekkis> $15 off (no minimum spend):
45:06 <Mekkis> This offer is valid for 30 days from receipt of email and requires a minimum spend of $75. 
01:28 <Mekkis> Have either of you, Avatar and Relaxer, read Steven Brust's "Dragon"?
03:40 <Mekkis> "Why is everyone so … hmmm. I'm not sure how to say this. I've dealt with Dragons before, and I'm used to, ah, I'm not used to being treated so civilly by them. No offense."
03:41 <Mekkis> Virt smiled. "It's taken some effort," she said.
03:41 <Mekkis> "Why the effort, then?"
03:41 <Mekkis> "I can only speak for myself."
03:41 <Mekkis> "Well?"
03:42 <Mekkis> "We're going to war," she said after a moment. "We're going to be fighting. You'll be fighting next to me. I'd just as soon you didn't have any reason to let me be killed."
11:46 <Tashes> Does it weigh more than a duck? Relaxer 
12:39 <Relaxer> Two ducks.
12:52 <Relaxer> btw, what do you mean by duck weight
13:55 <Tashes> well if it weighed less than a duck it must be a witch
14:21 <Tashes> night!
16:53 <Relaxer> i dont know what you're talking about
22:17 <Relaxer> ah... monty python
29:07 <Mekkis> If you're giving me US$, I might be interested
43:26 <Avatar> if you're giving me swiss francs I might be interested
43:34 <Avatar> for my exotic swiss bank account
43:43 <Avatar> one of my many accounts
43:47 <Avatar> international
44:17 <Avatar> I might also be interested if you wish to pay in bitcoin and/or dogecoin as I farm both regularly
44:37 <Avatar> I am in fact a multi-millionaire with many large investments.
54:44 <Relaxer> I doubt it mekkis, I'd buy to resell which means like 50-60% card value.
21:57 <Avatar> haven't read it, I don't really read
22:15 <Avatar> that passage quoted means very little without context
22:54 <Mekkis> an assassin who's signed up to fight on the front lines is talking to a professional soldier.
24:02 <Avatar> still not very impressive, is there more
24:25 <Mekkis> there is, and it's a good book. But I felt that that passage was the most relevant.
24:50 <Avatar> that passage doesn't sell me
25:19 <Mekkis> If you're going to be depending on other people to keep you alive, you should put a fair amount of effort into not giving them a reason to just letting you die.
27:42 <Avatar> why would they just let you die
27:47 <Avatar> that's not the default option
27:59 <Mekkis> Sure, it's not the default option
28:16 <Mekkis> but at some point, they might antagonise you enough to consider it.
32:10 <Mekkis> Keep in mind that 'fragging' did occur - about 900 times - during the Vietnam war.
41:36 <Mekkis> Relaxer, I'm currently dealing with people like that here, except that they're offering about 40%
42:02 <Relaxer> crazy.
42:22 <Mekkis> As in, about 50% resale value, assuming 1USD=1AUD
44:15 <Mekkis> And to be fair, there are some characters my characters have played with, where they also will refuse to assist.
11:00 <Relaxer> Then your character isnt being a good pathfinder.  Just because someone isn't being a good pathfinder to you first doesn't negate your responsability the Society to cooperate.  The motto of the society is not "Explore, Cooperate, Report(unless someone does something you dont like then you're totally allowed to be a dick)"
11:50 <Relaxer> Rub their noses in the fact they are a bad pathfinder sure, but dont let them bleed out.
19:37 <Mekkis> !hp 5d8m2
19:38 <diebot> Mekkis, 38
57:03 <Avatar> bitta context mek
36:52 <Steven1> hey guys.
38:17 <Steven1> migraine is kicking my ass.
39:54 <Steven1> so ive decided fuck working, im going to play some video game
01:32 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: TBA || WotW: 7pm Friday 24th || AEST (UTC+10:00) || Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au
01:32 Topic for #d&d set by Mekkis at Fri Jul 10 22:15:19 2015
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04:02 <Mekkis> !spell spiritual weapon
04:07 <diebot> Mekkis, SPIRITUAL WEAPON evocation ([force]) cleric/oracle 2, inquisitor 2, shaman 2 1 standard action Range: medium (100 ft. + 10 ft./level)  Comp: V, S, DF Duration: 1 round/level (D) Save: none SR:yesSource: PFRPG Core
04:07 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/spiritual_weapon.html
11:20 <Mekkis> !spell beast shape IV
11:21 <diebot> Mekkis, BEAST SHAPE IV transmutation (polymorph[]) sorcerer/wizard 6, alchemist 6, magus 6 1 standard action Range: personal you Comp: V, S, M (a piece of the creature whose form you plan to assume) Duration: 1 min./level Save:  SR:Source: PFRPG Core
11:21 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/beast_shape_iv.html
33:44 <Avatar> I would normally say that opting to let a pathfinder die without trying to save them is an evil act
34:09 <Avatar> I think that's a good example of why I don't like monty python
34:15 <Avatar> probably even in the pharasman inquisitor case
45:06 <Lintor> just throwing it out there but the Pharasmin church in the cityh of strangers is well aware of the large amount of necromancers and allows it to avoid direct conflict and because of the good they do. although the have terms so there is a presidence for Pharasmins allowing necromacy for the greater good.
47:58 <Avatar> how do you handle it if you're the GM
48:25 <Avatar> assume you explain that and the inquisitor doesn't agree, since this one probably didn't
20:48 <Mekkis> Avatar, if I were the GM, and the inquisitor wanted to watch the guy bleed out, I'd allow him to.
21:19 <Mekkis> if the inquisitor wanted to save the necromancer, I'd allow it as well. I don't want to dictate the actions of the PCs like that
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45:31 <Mekkis> make a character who specialises in Circle of Death
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58:56 <Avatar> forget work
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21:00 <Mekkis> Avatar doesn't even do work at work :P
21:08 <Mekkis> although I like how your status is 'working hard'
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25:14 <Avatar> lol
25:40 <Avatar> what else are you meant to put there
25:51 <Avatar> I don't think microsoft thought that one through
25:59 <Mekkis> "Working hard, but not on this network."
26:08 <Avatar> yeah basically
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29:51 <Mekkis> "Working as hard as is practical on a box with WinXP and IE8."
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48:40 <Avatar> that's all he does all day long
48:44 <Avatar> he just practises circle of death
49:42 <Avatar> his backstory can be that he was abused as a child by his necromancer father and the boy bided his time and casted finger of death on him
49:52 <Mekkis> circle of death :)
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57:42 <Mekkis> overquoted by people who have dumb senses of humour?
57:47 <Mekkis> No offence, Tashes.
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22:28 <Mekkis> !hp 5d8m2
22:29 <diebot> Mekkis, 38
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24:10 <Alynn> hoi all
24:36 <Steven1> up
24:37 <Steven1> sup
24:50 <Steven1> mebe i should make a Tengu...
25:08 <Alynn> not much, currently in search of a gm who is willing to gm in an interesting campaign setting I want to play in
26:24 <Steven1> nose goes!
26:29 * Steven1 touches nose.
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33:11 <Mekkis> I'm trying to work out how I can get my fellow players to spend more time exploring the setting and less time going from encounter to encounter.
33:31 <Alynn> story? Side quests?
34:03 <Mekkis> Oh, some of them don't care about the story: it's "there's an encounter over here, we should go towards it"
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34:37 <Mekkis> It grates me, especially as it's clear that the GM has put a lot of effort into the setting and story.
34:49 <Steven1> plot hooks
35:45 <Alynn> I love story stuff
36:13 <Alynn> I just wish I could find a gm interested in an underwater game
36:31 <Mekkis> same here. But what annoys me is that there is a player who says: "we are no were near strong enough hence why david [the GM] is providing us with encounters to gain xp and lvl up."
36:39 <Mekkis> I ran one of them about three years ago.
36:54 <Mekkis> Might have been four or five years now.
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36:56 <Alynn> your interested in an underwater game Mekkis?
37:15 <Mekkis> I ran one, yes. I made a couple of big mistakes, to be honest
37:23 <Alynn> ah
37:41 <Alynn> I am trying to get a group together for Cerulean Seas
37:48 <Alynn> I just don't want to gm it
37:57 <Alynn> I am a better player
39:16 <Alynn> I wanna play a Sea Elf Sorceror/Cleric mix 
40:12 <Steven1> underwater combat my 3rd least favorite thing
40:34 <Alynn> I just think it might be a fun thing to do
41:23 <Mekkis> 1. Don't run an underwater campaign if the players aren't expecting an underwater campaign
41:40 <Alynn> yep I figured
41:52 <Alynn> I plan to get a group that expects it
42:00 <Steven1> first least favorite thing... Shadows.
42:06 <Alynn> got a friend of mine who is keen on it
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42:30 <Mekkis> http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewcamp.php5?v=19
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57:55 <Lintor> under water is fun
58:23 <Alynn> I just need to find a gm to find that out for myself Lintor
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00:29 <Lintor> just remember put a shield spike on your shield so you can shield bash without penalty
00:46 <Alynn> I plan to play a caster XD
01:19 <Lintor> if you end up playing online and need players give me a shout
01:43 <Alynn> that would mean at least three players
01:53 <Alynn> I will be doing it via IRC
02:02 <Alynn> I just need a gm and I am set
02:39 <Alynn> I am thinking of going a Sorceror\Divine Caster\Mystic Theruge
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04:56 <Tashes> <Avatar> has anyone defined what a weapon-like object is
04:56 <Tashes>  
05:00 <Tashes> airport security
05:05 <Alynn> just debating on if it should be Cleric or Oracle
05:37 <Lintor> depends on sorc bloodline
06:00 <Alynn> well some of the sorceror bloodlines gets changed
06:04 <Steven1> gotta find you a gm before you start rollin characters.
06:18 <Alynn> yeah I know
06:32 <Alynn> I like to get an idea of what to play regardless
07:20 <Alynn> maybe aquatic bloodline
07:35 <Lintor> but Steven1 theorycrafting is fun
07:55 <Steven1> I have a wereshark character in skull and shackles... there has been some underwater combat, but even then its a pain in the ass.
09:55 <Steven1> theorycrafting is fun, but I've known a GM or two that have denied options which could negate your entire build
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10:13 <Lintor> yeah i have a undine ranger in PFS. i take it to the water when ever i can
15:09 <Steven1> im tinkering with an Arcanist right now
15:17 <Alynn> I see
15:41 <Lintor> the occultist archtype is so good on a Arcanist
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17:26 <Steven1> i was actually thinking a Brown Fur Transmuter
17:41 <Mekkis> http://www.amazon.com/Will-this-mouse-pad-work/forum/FxW6X79BG8L0AJ/Tx27RLRUTP9LWSC/1/ref=as_li_ss_tl?_encoding=UTF8&*Version*=1&*entries*=0&asin=B000UEZ36W&camp=1789&creative=390957&linkCode=ur2&tag=natdee-20&linkId=A3QO4HVSVVVDMQH4
20:56 <Mekkis> Lintor, 
21:12 <Mekkis> Can you tell me if the email I'm about to send my VC will result in Bad Outcomes for me?
21:42 <Steven1> if you gotta ask it probably will
23:21 <Lintor> sure i can look at it
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28:29 <Mekkis> Steven1, sure, but if it needs to be said, it needs to be said
28:44 <Steven1> suppose so
29:01 <Steven1> doesnt mean it cant be said in a better way
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29:41 <Mekkis> I know
29:53 <Mekkis> which is why I'm trying to find the best way to say it
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47:56 <Tashes> http://teespring.com/naturalone
50:13 <Steven1> Wayang Brown Fur Transmuter Arcanist
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57:01 * wm waves
04:46 <Mekkis> This email chain is depressing:
06:03 <Mekkis> he really is only in it for the fights.
06:36 <Mekkis> (and he's more than willing to go "All this diplomacy is getting boring. Magic missile"
08:05 <Mekkis> I need to make a tengu
14:43 <Relaxer> what up
15:46 <Avatar> Lintor: the campaign started, we immediately plane shifted because that's all we could do, then were promptly unable to breathe and about to die from drowning and unable to find air anywhere
16:23 <wm> just found the channel, through the website
16:35 <wm> ive not played before, was going to look at how it works and if im interested
17:29 <wm> wotw == war of the worlds ? watchers of the wall ?
25:17 <Steven1> 58k to spend
25:29 <Tashes> Heloo stranger! 
41:02 <Mekkis> I wasn't that mean: you arrived in a pocket of airy water
52:18 <Relaxer> way of the wicked
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