// #d&d — 2015-05-28
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00:00:15 <Steven> 6-07 and 6-20
00:02:24 <Goya> Nice!
00:02:38 <Goya> I didn't sign up for any of the core - though in hindsight I should have.. =/
00:02:58 <Steven> i dont know if i'll actually GM at all.
00:03:05 <Steven> i have a 5-9 and a 7-11 core.
00:03:06 <Goya> Aww.
00:03:35 <Goya> Well - aww for us. It's about time you got to play. ;)
00:04:09 <Steven> i dont know how many players actually have a 5+ character
00:04:13 <Steven> in core
00:04:19 <Steven> let alone a 7+ character
00:04:29 <Steven> unless they play more then i do... which would be impressive.
00:04:29 <Goya> I read a poll in the forums and it was very low percentage
00:04:40 <Goya> Or rather I read someone talking about a poll...
00:10:38 <steven> I wish i had been more awake for it. I'd gotten 2hrs of sleep that day and it was at the end of the day
00:11:01 <steven> I dont feel i did my best, but they said they enjoyed the experience.
00:11:08 <Steven> I have a level 7, two level 3s and a level 2
00:11:20 <Steven> and i organize a game day twice a week.
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00:11:43 <Goya> holy cow!
00:13:54 <Goya> Save me 2 seats on Sunday Steven!
00:18:41 <Brunius|M> Is unicon happening this year?
00:20:19 <Steven> i think our group of pathfinders plays more core then most other people.
00:22:16 <Steven> but hey good news is that i'll also be gming the specials
00:22:46 <Steven> and one of them you play pregens, so you can totally come play at my table then.
00:27:55 <steven> what up people
00:43:08 <Goya> Nice! We will!
00:43:24 <Goya> Sorry for the delay - I was playing Regicide
01:13:06 <Steven> fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck scenarios so good. they just released the last scenario i gotta prep.
01:14:14 <Steven> damn paizocon and gencon gonna be good this year
01:20:34 <Goya> Woohoo!
01:20:47 <Goya> Save us a seat for the special ;)
01:35:41 <s_gmusic> what're you running, steven?
01:37:08 <steven> My core character is level 8 now.
01:37:26 <steven> taking my first level of Loremaster
02:11:37 <Mekkis> Al Rigg?
02:37:09 <Steven1> i might have been inclined to agree with exo but he used the word 'loosers' and capatalized the first letter in every word... which I find annoying.
03:11:46 <ulzef> heya people
03:11:56 <steven> sup mang
03:12:15 <ulzef> not much ya self
03:13:16 <steven> just been catching up on sleep from paizocon
03:13:24 <ulzef> how was it
03:15:41 <Avatar`> who is allistar
03:15:56 <Avatar`> al doesn't go by alistair
03:21:09 <steven> it was good
03:22:41 <steven> well... the core game was good.
03:22:52 <steven> the non core games were nothing but janky bullshit
03:23:21 <steven> like a sorc that did 4d6+27 damage off of a burning arc.
03:24:12 <Avatar> should be
03:24:18 <steven> that was changed from fire to electricity to damage a robot.
03:24:20 <Avatar> are you going
03:24:34 <Mekkis> ulzef, when are you free from?
03:24:46 <steven> without having the technologist feat.
03:24:56 <steven> but dont worry he wasnt metagaming
03:25:10 <steven> because his character 'has fought robots before'
03:28:27 <steven> it was totally lame.
03:29:46 <steven> like the gunslinger that did 1d12+24 per shot and had 5 shots... totally fair.
03:31:42 <steven> or the barbarian/inquisitor that did 3d8+42 damage
03:32:19 <steven> +2d6 holy
03:32:35 <steven> because he had a +1 keen furious holy adamantine falchion
03:32:38 <Avatar> stepped back, not stepped down
03:33:09 <ulzef> 1 how does the sorc add passive damage to his spell and 2 how does the barb/inq get that kinda passive damage
03:33:15 <steven> but hey my core game... totally awesome.
03:35:37 <Steven1> shaved my head... ready for paizocon
03:37:49 <Avatar> how about the beard
03:39:43 <Avatar> I think I might have banned him once
03:41:44 <Avatar> steven
03:41:47 <Avatar> are you there
03:47:02 <Mekkis> pfs?
03:47:47 <Avatar> yes pfs
03:48:14 <Mekkis> :-(
03:49:21 <Mekkis> when is unicon?
04:12:44 <Mekkis> hehe Avatar
04:13:01 <Mekkis> To be fair, the slaying of the dragon was a high point in the campaign
04:18:32 <ulzef> hmmm i might come mek
04:18:42 <Avatar> yeah it was pretty sweet
04:22:16 <Mekkis> especially as Mrivan was trying to play a pacifist the whole time
04:23:59 <Mekkis> He did only kill one creature that entire campaign
04:24:44 <ulzef> will talk to some of the guys and see what they think
04:31:18 <Avatar> I think I fleshed out the townspeople a bit too much
04:35:27 <Avatar> question time
04:35:40 <Avatar> One of my other players in our group has managed to get himself a Wish, or at least he's owed one. Long story. The point is that, for his own reasons he wants to use the Wish to make all magical weapons on our continent non-magical.
04:35:40 <Avatar> The DM knows he's going to make this wish, and is keeping silent about whether/how it would work. But it got me thinking, how would I handle that Wish?
04:36:04 <Avatar> what would you do
04:37:12 <Mekkis> Depends. Either you did, or you didn't flesh them out enough
04:39:28 <Steven1> yup
04:39:28 <Steven1> avatar... did you suggest i cut my beard? have you been drinking?
04:39:30 <Steven1> i am now
04:42:07 <Mekkis> ulzef, you sure
04:42:10 <Mekkis> Ben will be here.
04:42:47 <Mekkis> he doesn't
04:43:07 <Mekkis> Paid my deposit today!
04:45:04 <Steven1> avatar
04:45:13 <Steven1> think it may be time to sleep.
04:46:21 <Avatar> tough crowd
04:52:56 <ulzef> so mekkis how many crash spaces you have for Paizocon aus
04:59:37 <Mekkis> https://www.govt.nz/browse/engaging-with-government/the-nz-flag-your-chance-to-decide/gallery/design/4090
05:03:59 <Mekkis> ulzef, is there any 'vl for Geelong'?
05:06:45 <Steven1> 32hrs till i leave for paizocon... time to sleep now, see ya guys later
05:20:07 <Mekkis> not yet
05:20:14 <Mekkis> they've got a bunch in the pipeline
05:20:43 <Avatar> mate
05:20:45 <Avatar> talk to me when it's out
05:21:27 <Mekkis> then it will Be Too Later
05:21:29 <Mekkis> Late*
05:22:50 <Avatar> is it not too late now?
05:27:05 <Mekkis> no. But I'll bet that it'll be the standard "You're playing an X. X got errataed. You're screwed" attitude
05:28:25 <Steven1> avatar... im bout to go to sleep. If you got something you need it would probably be better to ask me now.
05:34:02 <Steven1> preppin me some 6-07...
05:36:20 <Avatar> that sounds like it's too late now
05:36:32 <Mekkis> depends what you mean
05:36:46 <Mekkis> if you've started playing an ACG class,it probably is
05:37:03 <Avatar> what do you mean
05:37:15 <Avatar> if it's not too late now, what are you going to do
05:37:25 <Avatar> here you are talking to me like it's inevitable
05:37:41 <Avatar> is it too late or isn't it
05:38:02 <Mekkis> have you got any ACG characters?
05:42:59 <Avatar> yeah
05:43:01 <Avatar> !findchar Pedro
05:43:13 <diebot> Avatar, Character: Pedro. number: 1055( http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=1055 )
05:43:51 <Mekkis> played him at level 2 yet?
05:47:53 <Avatar> na
05:48:19 <Mekkis> planning on playing him at level 2 before GenCon?
05:49:59 <Avatar> maybe
05:50:02 <Avatar> not making plans
05:50:29 <Steven1> nevermind... looks like im going to go over to my dads house and start a fire.
05:51:36 <Avatar> oh uh
05:51:44 <Avatar> how long does harrowing go for
05:51:45 <Avatar> when you play it
05:54:40 <Avatar> yay! steven's running a game online for us
05:56:02 <Mekkis> I'd allow it.
05:56:04 <Steven1> lol you so cray cray
05:56:28 <Mekkis> And then show how outsiders and dragons are taking over the continent
05:56:48 <Mekkis> over the course of the next few months
05:57:40 <Mekkis> heh
05:58:17 <Avatar> ya I was just joshin
06:04:46 <Mekkis> ulzef, you around. I got some info out of the Brune!
06:05:12 <Avatar> that's pretty similar to what I said
06:05:42 <Avatar> such a stupid wish
06:06:06 <Mekkis> if Buck had a wish, what would it be?
06:07:19 <Avatar> guns
06:07:21 <Avatar> lots of guns
06:07:42 <Mekkis> really? Not a Better Gun?
06:08:18 <Avatar> I dunno man
06:08:24 <Avatar> don't ask me for a wish until I have a wish and need to use it
06:18:09 <Mekkis> So none of your characters have an idea of what to do with a wish?!
06:18:51 <Avatar> it depends on everything
06:19:00 <Avatar> not just "this is my character I KNOW WHAT I'LL WISH FOR !"
06:23:44 <Steven1> we played for about 5-6 hours.
06:23:50 <Steven1> ill gm something after paizocon
06:24:01 <Steven1> then ran into some bullshit and we didnt finish
06:25:58 <Mekkis> sure. But it's good to have an idea
06:34:40 <Mekkis> be careful
06:38:38 <Avatar> I am sure it'll be a great wish
06:38:41 <Avatar> that's my idea
06:40:57 <Steven1> hey
06:53:44 <Avatar> finishing eyes of the ten this SATURDAY Saturday saturday
07:09:09 <Steven1> we were on the home stretch though
07:10:12 <Mekkis> I wish for the best wish
07:20:25 <ulzef> nah
07:21:19 ChanOP gives channel operator status to Avatar
07:24:00 <ulzef> stephen does not love us enough to make one of us VL
07:24:37 <Avatar> the best wish is none at all. granted!
07:46:35 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: TBA || WotW: Fri 29th 7pm || All topic times are AEST (UTC+10:00); set your timezone on the site to see your local times in the Schedule! | Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au
07:46:35 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Thu May 28 07:23:51 2015
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07:47:37 <ulzef> hey Steven1 do you know if they have a list of games to play for the scions part 2 boon to be useful?
07:47:58 <Steven1> i dunno
07:48:39 <ulzef> i figured with the fact you have played like every game you would know
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07:53:14 <Avatar> I think I'm safe
07:53:31 <Steven1> damn... not even 3 hour
07:53:34 <Steven1> hours
08:01:50 <Avatar> I haven't heard from jena in months
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08:05:29 <Steven1> I dont really remember.
08:08:13 <Avatar> will likely run a game not this weekend, but next weekend
08:08:39 <Avatar> shaun and michael are keen to try playing online
08:21:44 <Avatar> scratch that
08:21:50 <Mekkis> Hey Avatar, ulzef: I'm considering a trip to Melbourne (or Sydney) around mid-late July.
08:22:07 <Mekkis> Any dates particularly good/bad for you?
08:46:52 <Avatar> don't think so
08:47:02 <Avatar> I've got a birthday happening around late july
08:48:05 <Avatar> go back to sleep
08:57:47 <Mekkis> ulzef, if you're lucky, one.
09:01:40 <Steven1> nah
09:01:50 <Steven1> i woke up... i dont go back to sleep once i wake up.
09:16:38 <ulzef> :(
09:24:52 <ulzef> Mekkis you about
09:26:31 <Mekkis> ordered a new laptop.
09:26:47 <Mekkis> This is I think the first new laptop I've had since 2005.
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09:28:13 <Mekkis> yeah
09:28:18 <Mekkis> might possibly be floorspace for two, but I don't really think so
09:29:06 <ulzef> you had news from brun
09:29:13 <Mekkis> I did
09:29:35 <Mekkis> he's free 29/30/31. Kapow's free 29/30.
09:29:55 <Mekkis> I'm free 29th + probably 30th afternoon/evening
09:41:01 <Mekkis> when are you free?
09:44:40 <Mekkis> Avatar, please schedule WotW for Friday, 29th, at 1900.
10:05:16 <ulzef> the friday should work for me
10:07:58 <Avatar> welcome to the future
11:04:09 <Mekkis> http://www.magiclampoon.com/news/archive20060209.html
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12:16:49 <steven> y
12:16:51 <steven> o
12:25:14 <ulzef> Jena has apprently stepped back or so i was told at the last con
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15:35:07 <steven> My core character is level 8 now.
15:35:24 <steven> taking my first level of Loremaster
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17:31:19 <steven> super janky bullshit.
17:31:46 <steven> i had a table of 6 players that were all that level of optimised.
17:32:18 <steven> i pulled zero punches, used vicious tactics and was unable to challenge them at all.
17:32:47 <steven> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/constructs/robot/robot-myrmidon
17:32:51 <steven> with 2 of those
17:32:53 <ulzef> i need to know this sorc janky shit the rest seems kinda standard but that is wierd
17:34:45 <steven> it was just +damage per dice
17:35:09 <steven> +1 damage from havoc of the society
17:35:15 <ulzef> yeah but 4d6+27 is redic
17:35:16 <steven> +1 damage/day for orc bloodline
17:35:25 <steven> damage/dice even
17:35:27 <steven> I agree.
17:36:07 <steven> +2 damage/dice for another one
17:36:24 <steven> i honestly dont remember because i was just disgusted with the game.
17:36:46 <Mekkis> ACG errata sounds like it could be a PFS trainwreck
17:39:06 <steven> then there was the cleric with the healing domain that used reach maximized cure spells.
17:39:39 <steven> his cure light wounds healed for 1d8+14 or some shit.
17:39:46 <ulzef> havoc is only +1 damage not per dice
17:39:54 <steven> i know ulzef.
17:39:56 <steven> i checked it out.
17:39:58 <steven> it was legal.
17:40:32 <steven> all of their shit was legal, it was just a very boring game to play as a GM.
17:40:58 <steven> the funnest part for me was when i read the briefing, asked if they had any questions and none of them had really listened.
17:41:10 <ulzef> the power gamers in the US must be much worse than over here
17:41:10 <steven> so when they left they completely screwed the pooch
17:41:45 <steven> and nearly got a chronicle with nothing on it.
17:41:55 <steven> but... i was nice and threw them a bone.
17:42:26 <steven> this was before i knew how incredibly OP their characters were.
17:44:05 <Avatar> why do you get such retardotron players
17:44:37 <steven> i think its because im a 5star and so they put the difficult players at my table because i can deal with them.
17:44:38 <Avatar> my gunslinger is level 12 and isn't really close to 1d12+24 damage
17:44:45 <Avatar> sorry, 13
17:45:38 <steven> yeah he was level 11
17:45:52 <Avatar> he must've done something bizarre with his dex? I guess
17:45:56 <steven> yeah
17:45:59 <steven> probably
17:46:04 <Avatar> I only have 19 dex
17:46:14 <Avatar> they released errata for the ACG?
17:46:18 <Avatar> that's with a +2 belt
17:46:27 <steven> yeah his reflex was a +20 i believe
17:47:24 <steven> so probably a 26-28 dex with a cloak
17:47:45 <steven> so that would have been a +8 damage just from dex.
17:47:51 <steven> then deadly aim
17:47:55 <steven> and i dunno what else.
17:48:00 <steven> i didnt really care at that point.
17:48:09 <steven> I just tried to kill em using really mean tactics.
17:48:25 <Avatar> that encourages it
17:48:26 <Avatar> no
17:48:31 <Avatar> you're meant to just let them steamroll it
17:48:53 <Avatar> "I do 180 damage that round" "ok, let's speed through this, you guys beat them"
17:49:06 <ulzef> Avatar did you hear stephen killed Mortok the other day
17:49:13 <Avatar> who is mortok
17:49:15 <steven> that kind of thing is heavily discouraged at paizocon.
17:49:26 <Avatar> what's heavily discouraged
17:49:31 <ulzef> my mammoth rider
17:49:42 <Avatar> I don't remember you having a mammoth rider?
17:49:55 <Avatar> how did he die
17:49:57 <steven> handwaving encounters like that.
17:50:29 <Avatar> why is it discouraged if it's going to save time
17:50:41 <Avatar> is having encounters run as long as possible a thing now
17:50:47 <Avatar> I thought unchained was trying to prevent that
17:50:54 <steven> because the players payed to play the game
17:51:03 <Avatar> yeah they're still playing it
17:51:14 <Avatar> you can only handwave it because they brought these ridiculously powerful characters in
17:51:16 <steven> if i hand wave the encounter, they are not getting what they payed for.
17:51:24 <ulzef> 1 crit enervation and 2 more max damage ones
17:51:25 <Avatar> they are getting exactly what they paid for
17:51:39 <Avatar> what scenario ulzef
17:51:48 <ulzef> sealed gate
17:51:53 <Avatar> sealed gate
17:51:57 <Avatar> fugged about it
17:52:13 <steven> enervation doesnt inflict extra negative levels on a crit.
17:52:13 <Avatar> stephen said he liked that scenario
17:52:22 <Avatar> did he like killing you
17:52:46 <Avatar> retcon imminent
17:53:00 <ulzef> nah and everyone chipped in because they were like anyone could of had that death
17:53:23 <ulzef> nah the crit only got 1 extra point i was dead anyway
17:53:39 <Avatar> steven who said it's discouraged
17:53:51 <steven> HQ
17:53:53 <ulzef> and after the fight the party waited a day and rezzed me anyway
17:54:02 <Avatar> what's HQ
17:54:04 <Avatar> is that mike
17:54:23 <steven> head quarters
17:54:30 <Avatar> that's not a person
17:54:41 <Avatar> a building didn't give the order
17:54:59 <Avatar> it sounds to me like nobody discouraged it
17:55:58 <Avatar> apparently I've GM'd 4 scenarios for mortok
17:56:03 <Avatar> bit embarassing
17:56:07 <Avatar> sorry, 3
17:56:08 <steven> brock did not give that instruction, someone in HQ told me about another person who handwaved an encounter last year
17:56:18 <steven> and was not invited back.
17:56:32 <Avatar> under what circumstances
17:57:01 <Avatar> to be fair, I haven't GM'd for mortok since 2013
17:57:23 <steven> they failed to elaborate more then basic details of they were GMing and the BBEG didnt stand a chance at all.
17:57:33 <ulzef> i think he was still just a rage profit when you gmed for him
17:57:41 <steven> so skipped the encounter, and people complained.
17:58:10 <Avatar> see that's funny, because we had a similar complaint about a GM
17:58:22 <Avatar> and instead of not inviting the GM back, we were told to suck it up and not play with that GM anymore
17:58:39 <Avatar> and we actually had monetary penalties because of it
17:58:52 <Avatar> those guys would have missed out on basically nothing except some wasted time
17:58:57 <steven> its annoying how inconsistant rulings are
17:59:13 <Avatar> they basically complained that they were robbed of their wasted time
17:59:18 <Avatar> and were rewarded for it
17:59:30 <ulzef> our gm did the opposite instead of hand waving a win he cheated to amp it
17:59:40 <Avatar> if I wasn't invited back after doing that, I'd be saying "good"
17:59:59 <Avatar> more munchkins for you guys!
18:00:05 <Avatar> happy pathifndering
18:00:22 <steven> except i like going to paizocon and gencon.
18:00:33 <Avatar> you like the core games
18:00:34 <ulzef> then again we barly have enough gm's over here you must be rolling in them to turn them away
18:00:51 <Avatar> yeah good question, are you rolling in them?
18:00:52 <steven> i get to hang out with friends i wouldnt otherwise get the opportunity to.
18:00:59 <Avatar> I was under the impression you weren't actually
18:01:08 <Avatar> since 6 player tables are the standard now
18:01:11 <steven> in my local area we have quite a few.
18:01:45 <steven> bout 5-6 dependible GMs.
18:02:02 <Avatar> that's actually less than melbourne
18:02:03 <steven> and then 2-3 infrequent gms.
18:02:29 <steven> thats out of about 30 players
18:04:54 <steven> i imagine melbourne has more players then that.
18:04:57 <Avatar> so not overwhelming
18:05:12 <Avatar> melbourne has about 30 players I think
18:05:28 <Avatar> at cons we usually fill 4 or 5 rooms
18:05:33 <Avatar> tables
18:06:07 <steven> thats about what we can do at winterfest.
18:06:34 <steven> moscow comes over to play every other week... they usually bring 3 people who can gm.
18:06:41 <steven> and a couple who dont.
18:06:57 <steven> we have about 10 people who refuse to GM.
18:07:49 <ulzef> alot of the people dont goto cons or only go for a couple of games
18:09:00 <Avatar> that's what geelong can do!
18:09:03 <Avatar> wow we're so similar
18:12:51 <ulzef> yeah but i bet the geelong players are prettier than moscow players
18:13:06 <ulzef> you get it lucky avatar you get us
18:13:52 <steven> well the moscow players bring a pratt, a pain in the ass, and a cheater.
18:14:08 <steven> but they also bring ryan... and he is hilarious... so it about balances out.
18:14:08 <Mekkis> steven, I have been refused to GM
18:15:51 <Avatar> yeah but daniel flood doesn't count
18:15:55 <ulzef> oh and mekkis we should be coming to canberra we are sorting out a car load soon
18:16:17 <Mekkis> for Paizocon
18:16:35 <ulzef> yeah
18:25:08 <ulzef> and mekkis tomorrow night is def on?
18:26:01 <Mekkis> I think so
18:29:19 <ulzef> good to hear
18:35:51 <ulzef> i am really looking forward to being wicked i keep hearing about gitch and brads parties exploits
18:43:15 <Avatar> just read the first DM feature on LSK, it's quite telling of what's to come
18:43:22 <Avatar> something I didn't intend while writing it
18:59:02 <ulzef> around now
18:59:11 <ulzef> at home sick
19:32:07 <Mekkis> !item boots of the winterlands
19:32:11 <diebot> Mekkis, BOOTS OF THE WINTERLANDS [faint abjuration and transmutation] CL:5 feet 2500gp, 1lb
19:32:11 <diebot> The wearer of these boots is able to travel across snow at her normal speed, leaving no tracks. Additionally, the boots enable her to travel at normal speed across the slipperiest ice (horizontal surfaces only, not vertical or sharply slanted ones) without falling or slipping. Finally, boots of the winterlands warm the wearer, as if she were
19:32:11 <diebot> affected by an endure elements spell. Source: Ultimate Equipment
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20:06:16 <steven> hey.
20:06:48 <steven> avatar. I gm'd for Allistar
20:07:22 * Exo Thinks That Avatar Is A bit Too Horny For #d&d... Exo Doesn't Like Horny Loosers Who Probably Sit At Home And Play With Their Own Genitles! Not To Mention Sucking Them... Ewwww
20:33:15 <Mekkis> Avatar, background on paper cartridges:
20:33:18 <Mekkis> Since the standard procedure for loading a musket or rifled musket involved biting open the cartridge, this can cause problems for those with strict dietary restrictions. The Sepoy soldiers in the employ of the British in India, for example, were largely Hindu, who were forbidden to eat beef, or Muslim, who were forbidden to eat pork. Rumors of the use of lard and tallow in the lubrication of the cartridges they were using were part of the cause of the
20:33:18 <Mekkis> Indian Rebellion of 1857.
20:34:55 <Avatar> how does that relate
20:35:24 <Mekkis> Paper cartridges were often coated in beeswax, lard, or tallow, which served a number of purposes. It provided some degree of water resistance, it lubricated the paper-wrapped bullet as it was pushed down the bore, and it melted upon firing to mix with the powder residue and make the resulting fouling easier to remove.
20:35:43 <Mekkis> I'm trying to imagine Buck biting open his cartridges
21:18:33 <Avatar> right
21:18:40 <Avatar> the second paragraph seems necessary to understand the first
21:23:00 <Mekkis> sure
22:18:51 <steven> y
22:18:53 <steven> o
23:10:29 <Goya> One more day Steven. Save me 2 seats for Sunday! ;)
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23:48:53 <Goya> You gonne be at Paizo next week Steven?
23:58:10 <Steven> yup
23:59:11 <Steven> all core tables.
23:59:59 <Steven> they gave me the scenarios with the sandboxs
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