// #d&d — 2015-05-12
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08:32:17 <Mix> Anyone around?
08:35:32 <Avatar> about to leave
08:36:10 <Mix> Oh
08:36:14 <Mix> I'll just wait around then
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08:59:58 <MixMaster> I'm still Mix btw. Just with a different irc client
09:02:18 <MixMaster> I'm interested in playing pathfinder, but I have pretty much no experience with any of it. I'd appreciate if someone could shoot me an email at [email protected] and explain some of the basics for me. I'd really like to sit it on a game if possible.
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09:41:56 <steven> hy guys
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15:59:32 <ulzef> hi people
16:01:43 <steven> hey ulzef
16:02:22 <steven> im 3 games away from having a level 20 in pfs.
16:08:40 <Mekkis> hi
16:21:40 <Mekkis> level 17?
16:24:44 <steven> 17.667
16:28:11 <ulzef> hows things mek
16:28:30 <Mekkis> at home sick, actually
16:28:33 <Mekkis> :(
16:28:46 <ulzef> no good
16:30:49 <Mekkis> yeah
16:31:54 <ulzef> well i was gonna ask about WotW but i guess thats out with you being ill
16:34:59 <Mekkis> I can't get a straight answer out of Brunius
16:35:05 <Mekkis> that's the problem
16:35:20 <ulzef> that buy needs slapped
16:35:28 <ulzef> boy even
16:35:38 <Mekkis> you're closer than I am
16:39:53 <ulzef> we need to get avatar to do it i think he knows where brun lives
16:46:21 <steven> hmmm... think im going to pick horrid wilting and moment of prescience for 16th level
16:50:18 <steven> i guess energy drain for 17th level.
16:51:05 <ulzef> horrid wilting is a awesome spell
16:52:37 <steven> meh, its 19d6. average damage is 67 damage, or i can just suffocate them.
16:53:04 <steven> dc36
16:53:08 <ulzef> yeah but its a nice aoe
16:53:11 <steven> persistant
16:53:39 <steven> the other wizard i play with is all about the AoE damage.
16:54:18 <steven> so, im more of a single target... this thing has to die before it kills someone.
16:58:08 <steven> usually in a fight i hit people with debuffs like bestow curse and blindness/deafness
16:59:07 <steven> and then one something nasty comes along that people are super woried about, they tell me to kill it, and i drop a persistant suffocation dc32-38 depending on what level i smack em with.
16:59:13 <Mekkis> Should Heneski get the Strand of Prayer Beads?
16:59:34 <Mekkis> so he can pull off 80d6 empowered damage in one round?
16:59:58 <steven> sure.
17:03:25 <steven> so our 'tank' party member now has 500hp
17:04:05 <ulzef> i will def get over that in our WoR game
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17:04:45 <steven> its easy to get high HP if you're mythic.
17:05:01 <steven> my mythic character had like 700hp
17:05:13 <ulzef> true but i have a d6 hit dice no mythic tiers and lvl 3 and have over 30 hp
17:06:33 <steven> i didnt start optimizing till level 8 when we gained an archer character that made the GM have to mod the game.
17:07:15 <steven> otherwise i'd have probably had over 1k hp.
17:07:16 <ulzef> i am playing a scared witch doctor so main stat is con
17:07:49 <ulzef> well scared witch doctor/hedge witch
17:08:17 <steven> that archetype is such bullshit
17:08:22 <steven> i dont know why they made it.
17:09:01 <steven> its as bad as the kinetisist
17:09:31 <steven> or a ghoul oracle.
17:09:33 <steven> lol
17:11:55 <steven> i had a witch doctor in my rise of the runelords.
17:13:23 <steven> save dcs in the low 40s... totally fun.
17:13:42 <ulzef> i am transformation patron and the gm also ruled as i can cast cure spells after lvl 4 without prep that i can get into dragon disciple so going that
17:14:44 <steven> meh
17:19:18 <ulzef> i like the idea of being a dragon in a mythic game
17:19:34 <steven> seriously you dont need that much help since you're going mythic.
17:19:58 <steven> mythic breaks the game completely after about 5 tiers.
17:20:07 <ulzef> i know thats why i am going the fun dragon transforming character
17:21:57 <steven> i think if i ever do WoR 5 tiers is going to be max.
17:21:59 <steven> one per book.
17:22:48 <steven> because its eriously dumb how they disrupt things completely.
17:29:15 <steven> wish i could get some abjuration spells.
17:29:28 <steven> or enchantment...
17:29:34 <steven> worst banned schools ever.
17:41:54 <Mekkis> What schools do you think are best to ban?
17:42:09 <Mekkis> divination and evocation?
17:53:01 <steven> i think illusion is one thats not excessively hampering
17:54:26 <Mekkis> colour spray?
17:54:47 <ulzef> PK
17:54:51 <steven> and conjuration can be alright to ban so long as you are okay with getting wands and scrolls to cover teleport
17:55:37 <steven> but abjuration just sucks to have as a banned school.
17:56:15 <ulzef> conjuration has the snowball spells
17:56:28 <Mekkis> fucking snowball
17:57:49 <ulzef> you know you love it mek
17:58:55 <steven> once i was GMing and there was a guy at the table
17:58:59 <steven> had snowball
17:59:07 <steven> day of the demon
17:59:22 <steven> fighting the giant scary 4 armed gargoyle thing.
17:59:27 <steven> the fight was going badly for them
17:59:51 <steven> and this guy passed his turn, and everyone was like... um do something for your turn... we are losing.
18:00:36 <steven> and he said "Well i have 2 castings of snowball but i dont want to use them on the first fight, theres no telling what else we could fight"
18:00:47 <steven> and im like you might want to do something...
18:01:44 <steven> but he persists in passing. so i let him i take a full attack and drop 2 people to negatives.
18:01:59 <steven> his turn comes around again, "I'll pass."
18:02:16 <steven> it was horrible.
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18:08:44 <steven> he didnt even throw out hexes
18:09:36 <ulzef> then the dude was just a dick and should have been banned under the don't be a dick rule
18:10:51 <steven> nah, hes just an idiot.
18:11:36 <Mekkis> did he run away
18:11:59 <steven> no, they eventually convinced him to actually start throwing out spells...
18:12:34 <steven> cleric was completely out of spells by the end of the fight.
18:13:03 <Mekkis> did they end up resting?
18:13:08 <steven> and channels
18:13:16 <steven> yeah out in the barn
18:13:35 <Mekkis> how many survived the night?
18:13:38 <steven> where some babaus showed up to harass them.
18:13:54 <steven> i think i killed 1
18:14:14 <steven> and they completed the scenario
18:14:55 <steven> but the last fight was much more difficult as a certain person saw all of their fights and may have emptied the spell component pounches of the casters.
18:15:49 <steven> im thinking wail of the banshee and foresight for my 9th level free spells.
18:18:26 <steven> 190 damage DC34
18:20:17 <Mekkis> not mass suffocation?
18:20:20 <Mekkis> for more of the same
18:22:34 <Mekkis> you should take Cursed Earth
18:23:00 <steven> mass suffocation isnt really needed.
18:23:41 <steven> I dont really want to kill lots of guys at once.
18:24:02 <steven> i dont really wanna take wail of the banshee or energy drain.
18:25:35 <Mekkis> Astral Projection then
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18:43:30 <steven> i'll grab cursed earth, though i'll never cast it.
18:49:03 <steven> i hate picking spells at high level... so many good ones.
18:51:17 <steven> suppose i could get foresight and some sandles of quick reaction
19:08:54 <Avatar> I really need to play my wizard more
19:09:00 <Avatar> for some reason I prioritised my paladin
19:09:11 <Mekkis> I thought your wizard died
19:09:18 <Avatar> my new wizard
19:09:21 <Avatar> you played with him, Chai
19:09:27 <Mekkis> oh, HIM
19:09:30 <Avatar> although I can see why you would have been distracted
19:10:48 <Mekkis> Paizo needs to release more scenarios
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19:12:42 <Mekkis> Ooh! Something on Paizo that I'm excited about!
19:12:57 <Avatar> that you won't tell us about unless we ask
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19:13:07 <Mekkis> http://paizo.com/products/btpy9dsc
19:13:33 <Avatar> old maps
19:13:46 <Mekkis> You should get it, Avatar
19:13:54 <Avatar> pass
19:14:09 <Mekkis> it is, literally, the most useful flipmap I've bought
19:14:37 <Avatar> I only remember seeing it in one session, and that was a special
19:15:05 <Mekkis> really?
19:15:10 <Avatar> I honestly don't GM often enough in person to bother
19:15:19 <Avatar> and I don't want to do it more
19:15:24 <Avatar> I want to GM online more
19:15:43 <Avatar> I'm considering not going to the cons as much
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19:15:46 <Mekkis> then run a campaign. I'd be up to it
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19:15:49 <Mekkis> up for it
19:15:59 <Avatar> not a campaign
19:16:11 <Mekkis> why not?
19:16:18 <Avatar> I'm into PFS
19:16:30 <Mekkis> run one of the APs in PFS mode then
19:16:33 <steven> so run a campaign and make it pfs rules.
19:16:34 <Mekkis> in Campaign mode
19:16:36 <Mekkis> I mean
19:16:54 <Avatar> every time we have this conversation, there is one, maybe two players here who are keen
19:17:13 <steven> im always keen so long as it fits into my schedule.
19:17:15 <Mekkis> I'm sure that there will be three, plus maybe steven
19:17:23 <Avatar> who
19:17:24 <steven> which my schedule is maliable to a point.
19:17:33 <Mekkis> Myself, ulzef and kapow
19:17:40 <Avatar> kapow is never here
19:18:33 <steven> i saw him the other day online.
19:19:47 <Avatar> a player who is around once in a blue moon is toxic to a campaign
19:20:55 <steven> APs i cant/wont play: Skull and Shackles, Wrath of the Righteous, Serpents Skull, Council of Thieves, Reign of Winter
19:21:05 <Avatar> I'm really not interested in a campaign anyway, it forces you to play for a long time
19:21:09 <Avatar> advantages of PFS
19:21:23 <Avatar> the flexibility is the real winner
19:21:29 <steven> APs I've Run: Rise of the Runelords. Second darkness.
19:22:46 <steven> my running of rise of the runelords was seriously off the rails though... 3/5 of the part worshiped cayden and to get into character actually drank at the table.
19:23:16 <steven> Which made for hilarious sessions
19:23:38 <steven> but i had to improvise a lot to get them to the next part of the story.
19:25:01 <Mekkis> Kapow is able to make it now
19:27:46 <steven> It would be cool to play an ap with avatar as GM.
19:31:59 <Mekkis> indeed.
19:32:57 <Mekkis> Or, Avatar, you could continue LSK!
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20:45:42 <steven> mass suffocation is a spell i dont think i need more then 2/day of.
20:50:14 <steven> only need 1 foresight.
20:50:27 <steven> so need to write a spell in my spellbook
20:50:59 <steven> thats good for the other 2 spell slots.
21:08:08 <steven> perhaps some clashing rocks.
21:12:15 <Avatar> I would not continue LSK
21:12:16 <Avatar> that story is done
21:12:39 <Avatar> I wouldn't mind continuing another campaign in the same vein of it with CA-drawn maps, because that was amazing
21:13:00 <Avatar> but then I think how long that kind of campaign lasts, and I say that is a bad idea also
21:13:25 <Mekkis> what is wrong with a long-running campaign?
21:13:58 <Avatar> you have to coordinate and you have to play it every week or so for the next 2 years
21:14:43 <Avatar> I couldn't even stomach the timetable of book 1 of wotw
21:14:53 <Mekkis> what's wrong with that? I played Rise of the Runelords like that over a year...
21:16:47 <steven> There we go, Wood Phalanx for my other spell.
21:18:08 <steven> 3-6 disposable creaatures to do things for me... sounds exactly like what my character would want.
21:22:49 <Avatar> I can't do it
21:25:16 <steven> it really is no different then a PFS game if you've got a group that agrees on a time.
21:25:41 <Avatar> but you don't have to stick to it in PFS
21:26:12 <steven> you do if you want to keep playing the same character.
21:26:38 <steven> like right now in core, the group of people we have all have their main characters which are around level 7. and a back up of level 2-3
21:28:05 <steven> and if you choose not to play you miss out on character development of those characters.
21:28:52 <steven> its a lot like an AP if you all choose to play together constantly. We crafted our own story through scenarios, and its been pretty awesome.
21:33:12 <Avatar> no I don't care about that
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