// #d&d — 2015-05-03
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00:08:45 <s_gmusic> "As of 4/27/15 the summoner class in this book is no longer legal for play. A summoner character that has played at least once at level 2 or higher by this date qualfies to continue using this version of the class. Otherwise, only the summoner in Pathfinder RPG Pathfinder Unchained is legal for play."
00:08:45 <s_gmusic> wat
00:15:56 <Steven1> beat that earlier today.
00:16:02 <Steven1> now im on red alert 2
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00:35:12 <Ulzef2> herro what people up to?
00:42:49 <Ulzef2> Mekkis, did anyone else seem interested in a game tonight?
00:47:46 <Avatar> don't you want to retrain your summoner mekkis
00:59:38 <Ulzef2> anyone about?
01:16:15 <Steven1> im about now.
01:33:18 <ulzef> Mekkis any word from brun and kapow about a possible game tomorrow?
01:35:54 <Brunius`> Without seeing what's in the scenario I can't say either way, but it seems unlikely that they'd write in an exception there and then override it in the scenario
01:59:49 <ulzef> hey Steven1 just got home was waiting for the bus home so was gonna chat if people were about
02:05:12 <Steven1> i imagein they are around somewhere
03:15:38 <Steven1> there we go, unchained is launched.
03:15:58 <ulzef> unchained can go die in a hole
03:17:05 <Steven1> im alright with it.
03:17:20 <Steven1> doesnt negatively impact any of my characters.
03:18:48 <ulzef> i dont like that they have removed a base class from a hard cover product and forced you to buy a book which is supposed to be optional rules
03:20:15 <Steven1> nobody is forcing anyone to buy a book.
03:20:53 <Steven1> just cant play certain options from some books...
03:21:30 <Avatar> did you guys get your game in yesterday
03:38:52 <ulzef> you cannot play a option you legally could because they brought out a book of "optional" rules
03:39:02 <ulzef> nah
03:39:07 <ulzef> meaning the current rules are supposed to be the core still
03:39:10 <Avatar> bit messy
03:39:31 <ulzef> yeah a weeks grace would have been nice
03:39:48 <Avatar> very awkward for us, right on a monday
03:40:14 <Avatar> maybe they wanted to avoid games full of level 1 summoners for a week
03:40:21 <Avatar> like the aasimar/tiefling problem
03:40:36 <Steven1> its 'optional' to play a summoner
03:41:03 <ulzef> ??
03:41:09 <ulzef> aasimar and tiefling did not have to be lvl 2 so you could grandfather any characters with 1 game under there belt before then
03:41:16 <ulzef> dont even try that its a book tax to play a option that was legal before the douchetaxed it
03:42:16 <ulzef> people got upset over the book tax for techknowlegist and then they pull this
03:42:38 <Steven1> everything is a tax, want to play pfs... you gotta buy the core rule book.
03:42:53 <ulzef> i am retraining Ulzef
03:43:05 <ulzef> its the first base class they have ever removed and i dont like the presidence
03:43:13 <Steven1> want to play an inquisitor? get the APG
03:43:26 <ulzef> i already had paid my summoner tax by buy apg now they are like ops gotta pay more tax
03:43:30 <ulzef> and my knife fighter rogue
03:43:52 <ulzef> need to look to see if i have taken a rogue splash on anyone else
03:44:03 <Steven1> well dont play it then.
03:44:07 <ulzef> cause 3 lvls of rogue just got really good
03:44:09 <ulzef> i actually dont mind the new summoner i dont like that they removed a class that they published
03:44:57 <ulzef> i am stating a opinion i have spent hundreds of dollars on pathfinder and played since season 0 i am not going to quit i just don't like how they went about this
03:46:27 <ulzef> this is a forum for discussing pathfinder correct? i am not always going to agree with them toe there line and kiss there ass. sometimes i will say that was a dick move
03:48:10 <FireLantern> Hello ^^
03:49:36 <Steven1> frankly the old summoner was a bad class.
03:49:52 <Steven1> It never should have been allowed in pfs at all.
03:50:25 <Steven1> brock has said that he'd have banned it if he was in charge when it came out.
03:50:33 <ulzef> then paizo should not have published it
03:51:42 <ulzef> if we banned everything they publish then i would never have to see another chase scene but they keep putting those in
03:52:26 <Steven1> the new modified chase scenes are pretty good.
03:52:51 <Steven1> like in merchants wake and sky key p2.
03:53:13 <Steven1> where the party works together to get past obstacles.
03:54:39 <ulzef> yeah the chase in sky key 2 is pretty epic but they put the old one in sands 3 and that was well after everyone knew they were shit
03:56:47 <Steven1> The rules for chases are pretty poorly presented.
04:01:34 <ulzef> hmmmm with stealth unlock and somethings already in the game you can actually get a positive to your stealth for sniping
04:02:56 <Steven1> my shadow dancer could snipe before getting hide in plain sight
04:03:27 <Steven1> he had a +32.
04:05:39 <ulzef> hello
04:05:57 <ulzef> yeah with camo cloak and some other things the - for sniping become a + so you get a net gain to stealth for doing something that is ment to lower it
04:06:31 <Steven1> well with distance penalties the -20 isnt realy a big deal.
04:06:49 <Steven1> usually ends up being a -10 to 16
04:25:13 <Avatar> yeah but then every man and his dog had aasimar/tieflings for a while after that
04:25:55 <s_gmusic> I have an Aasimar sitting around like that. haven't played society since last september. :/
04:29:30 <Avatar> I don't think we have to worry about a "precedent"
04:29:38 <Avatar> the summoner is obviously an exception to the rule
04:30:04 <Avatar> even compared to the gunslinger, the summoner had big issues
04:30:07 <Mekkis> Avatar, nice map printing guide
04:30:42 <Mekkis> You might be missing one thing: the concept of "A4" and "A3" might be foreign (pun intended) to the US audience.
04:32:56 <Avatar`> does quakenet not have a way to register your nick
05:12:36 <Mekkis> ulzef..
05:15:09 <Mekkis> I should start being more serious at playing the Creditcard game
06:06:34 <Mekkis> Steven1, up for some multiplayer?
06:42:10 <ulzef> yes?
06:42:14 <ulzef> sorry playing smite
06:42:26 <ulzef> what ya after Mekkis?
06:51:12 <Mekkis> PM
07:19:27 <Mekkis> !item spear of manhunting
07:19:29 <diebot> Mekkis, SPEAR OF MANHUNTING [faint enchantment] CL:3 none 3925gp, 8lb
07:19:29 <diebot> A 2-foot-long blade extends from the heavy crossbar of this +1 boar spearUE. Designed to catch and hold humanoid prey, a spear of manhunting automatically resizes to match the size of its wielder when grasped. Once per day on a successful critical hit, the wielder of a spear of manhunting can cast hold person as an immediate action on the target
07:19:29 <diebot> hit by the attack (Will DC 13 negates). The hold person effect immediately ends if the spear is dropped or withdrawn, such as by making additional attacks with the weapon. Source: AP 67
07:28:10 <ulzef> i hope who ever decided to force the unchained changes falls ina hole and dies
07:33:11 <Avatar> you dont' like the new summoner
07:33:21 <Avatar> ?
07:34:31 <Avatar> come back ulzef
07:38:30 <ulzef> i dont like that they are forrcing people to buy a new book to regain access to a base class they could legaly play, it also messes with a bunch of archtypes. i was really looking forward to the new summoner archtype from heroes of the wild and it does not work with the new summoner
07:40:36 <ulzef> its even more dickish because they said that unchained was designed to be optional rules that would be how they would like to have done them if giving a second chance
07:41:33 <ulzef> it also means a i have summoner that i used a race boon on that does not work anymore
07:42:01 <Mekkis> ulzef, You have a 1.x summoner?
07:42:08 <ulzef> his concept was a priest of shylen with a celestial peacock summons thats gone
07:42:15 <ulzef> yeah 1.2
07:42:29 <Mekkis> Simple: backdate a game or two :P
07:42:49 <ulzef> that would be cheating and gitch would report me just to be a dick
07:43:02 <Mekkis> report him.
07:43:42 <ulzef> the being a dick rule is a very hard one to get someone on
07:43:47 <Mekkis> https://www.acsc.gov.au/cyber-security-video-sd.html
07:48:12 <ulzef> other than being funny i am not sure what that video had to do with the current topic
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08:04:56 <Mekkis> claim he's a scammer
08:07:28 <ulzef> btw anything from kapow or brun about this weekend yet?
08:08:06 <Mekkis> Avatar, I do not want to retrain either summoner.
08:10:04 <Mekkis> not yet, I was hoping the Brunius_ would poke his head in here
08:19:19 <Mekkis> Brunius_,
08:19:21 <Mekkis> Brunius_,
08:19:23 <Mekkis> Brunius_!
08:22:21 <ulzef> they both seem to be online just hating us
08:29:55 <Mekkis> !throw 48d6
08:29:55 <diebot> Mekkis, 48d6: [48d6=5,4,3,1,3,1,6,5,4,6,5,2,3,6,5,2,5,3,5,4,6,2,3,1,2,1,2,6,6,2,5,1,1,6,4,3,5,1,4,2,4,6,2,1,6,3,3,2] 168
08:29:59 <Mekkis> !throw 48d6
08:30:00 <diebot> Mekkis, 48d6: [48d6=6,1,4,2,2,5,3,5,2,4,3,5,4,5,2,4,5,1,3,4,6,4,2,6,2,3,6,6,1,1,2,4,1,2,1,5,5,5,4,5,3,4,5,6,3,5,3,1] 171
08:32:08 <Mekkis> !throw 64d6
08:32:08 <diebot> Mekkis, 64d6: [64d6=1,1,4,4,1,5,3,4,6,3,2,1,5,3,5,5,6,3,3,3,2,5,3,5,5,6,5,5,1,2,1,6,5,3,2,3,3,2,6,1,5,1,6,1,3,4,1,1,2,6,6,3,4,5,3,3,6,4,2,3,6,1,2,6] 223
08:35:27 <Mekkis> No word from either of them, unfortunately, ulzef
08:35:29 <Mekkis> :'(
08:45:31 <Mekkis> Hmm... RE: Summoner being forced into Unchained. Would it have been better for them to have simply banned the summoner last month, then released the unchained summoner? Discuss.
08:52:33 <Avatar`> echo
08:52:34 <Avatar`> echo
08:55:27 <Mekkis> ulzef,
08:55:30 <Mekkis> back...
09:07:41 <Mekkis> ohce
09:07:42 <Mekkis> ohce
09:21:22 <Brunius_> tomorrow
09:21:25 <Brunius_> I probably can't make tomorrow
09:26:50 <Steven1> sorry mekkis i went to nap, rough day for headaches.
09:28:37 <Steven1> ulzef play 2 games and grandfather that summoner in.
09:30:35 <Steven1> i think you have until the 29th or something... frankly i didnt pay attention to the language used when discussing the grace period because i dont have any characters thats going to make use of unchanined rebuild.
09:30:47 <Steven1> so i may be mistaken.
09:35:29 <Mekkis> Don't be a jerk > follow the rules :P
09:52:40 <Steven1> Don't be a Jerk = Following the rules.
10:46:08 <Mekkis> okay
11:32:27 <AndroUser> Hey anyone here?
11:35:16 <Akhaara> Played on here couple years ago was wondering what's going on now
11:58:35 <Steven1> hey
11:58:51 <Steven1> late at night in aust, so they probably all sleepin.
12:33:34 <Akhaara> Ah didn't think about that lol
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12:40:17 <Mekkis> Avatar,
12:41:17 <Mekkis> So. The guys in Canberra are insisting that if you bypass an encounter, you should have gold docked from you.
12:46:02 <Brunius`> PFS guide as of 2014-05 says: If that scene specifically calls for
12:46:02 <Brunius`> the PCs to receive gold piece rewards based
12:46:03 <Brunius`> on the gear collected from the defeated
12:46:03 <Brunius`> combatants, instead allow the PCs to find
12:46:03 <Brunius`> a chest of gold (or something similar)
12:46:03 <Brunius`> that gives them the same rewards.
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12:48:33 <steamybuttnuts> hello
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13:00:54 <Brunius`> It's page 33 in that version, dunno what it is in the current one
13:02:57 <Steven1> its cool.
13:03:10 <Steven1> I'm back and forth from my computer right now.
13:19:42 <Mekkis> I know. They're claiming that what's written in the scenario trumps it
13:44:51 <Avatar> tell them to go jump
15:34:15 <Brunius`> Without seeing what's in the scenario I can't say either way, but it seems unlikely that they'd write in an exception there and then override it in the scenario
15:34:21 <FireLantern> Hello nocturnal people of australia!
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17:42:04 <Avatar> ulzef: play a game today and it will be legal
17:50:19 <Avatar> and there was some debate about whether the monk was actually any better
17:50:21 <Avatar> yeah
17:51:03 <Avatar> the rogue can sneak attack in concealment but other than that doesn't get any other fixes for sneak attack
17:51:05 <Steven1> I didnt look at the monk.
17:51:16 <Avatar> the monk loses a save but gets full BAB
17:51:22 <Steven1> i probably should have
17:51:41 <Steven1> but I havent built any monks.
17:51:49 <Steven1> Or rogues.
17:52:03 <Steven1> and i've been disgusted with summoners for quite a while.
17:52:13 <Avatar> it's funny people keep asking if things like unchained are available in core
17:52:20 <Avatar> is that a running joke now
17:52:56 <Steven1> I don't know. I don't really like the forums anymore.
17:53:15 <Avatar> why not you crybaby
17:53:32 <Steven1> I only read them because I feel obligated to as a VO.
17:53:47 <Avatar> I only read them because work sucks
17:54:00 <Mekkis> Brunius_, when can you make?
17:54:29 <Steven1> yeah, I'm lucky in that I can play video games while at work.
17:55:07 <Steven1> if i couldnt I'd probably participate in the forums more.
17:58:29 <Mekkis> ulzef, want me to run Godsmouth Heresy?
17:58:50 <Avatar> jealous
17:59:18 <Avatar> is that a quick module
17:59:25 <Mekkis> it can be
17:59:28 <Steven1> you say that until you're in the middle of a very tense moment in the game
17:59:43 <Mekkis> if you really want, I can run Rise of the Runelords, part 1, in Campaign Mode.
17:59:48 <Avatar> mate that's on you
17:59:48 <Mekkis> THAT is quick.
18:00:14 <Avatar> it's level 1, surely first steps/confirmation/wounded wisp would do the trick
18:00:48 <Steven1> and then you've got to drive to moscow because your client wants KFC.
18:01:14 <Steven1> no thats the job... and it sadly happens a lot more often then you'd think it does.
18:02:01 <Mekkis> It's not as quick as RotR1, campaign mode :P
18:02:08 <Steven1> I have a lot of downtime in my job, but i also have to go out at 2am through the part of town that has 5 bars which means its swarming with cops an get pulled over a lot.
18:02:18 <Mekkis> and you don't need a 'full table'
18:02:22 <Steven1> just because im out driving at 2am.
18:02:50 <Mekkis> I got breathalysed for the first time last Sunday
18:03:17 <Steven1> Its actually kind of fun.
18:04:07 <Steven1> I usually just tell the cops when they pull me over to bring the breathilyzer when they come back to the window so i can prove i've not been drinking.
18:08:21 <Mendicant> Hello everyone. I understand that this may not be the right place but I had a general pathfinder question.
18:08:37 <Mendicant> Are there stats for anything like an ebook in pathfinder?
18:08:47 <Mendicant> I had an idea for a Numerian wizard who used it as a spellbook.
18:09:26 <Avatar> haven't heard of it
18:09:31 <Avatar> it'd be in the technology guide if anywhere
18:10:32 <Mendicant> Shoot
18:10:36 <Mendicant> I looked there and didn't see it.
18:10:39 <Mendicant> Thank you though.
18:11:02 <Mekkis> if you're not limited to Pathfinder, there are stats in Urban Arcana
18:11:17 <ulzef> um will sort something he has done confirmation and first steps already
18:11:41 <Mekkis> RotR1, campaign mode. Choose whatever system you want.
18:12:35 <ulzef> cool i should be home about 4:30 will sort something quickly then i gots to goto school
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18:19:58 <Avatar> mate just wanted a two minute answer and them I'm gooooooone
18:20:03 <Avatar> kthxbi
18:28:27 <Mekkis> Avatar, nice map printing guide
18:28:36 <Mekkis> hmmm. A whip-using rogue might work now :P
18:29:03 <Mekkis> You might be missing one thing: the concept of "A4" and "A3" might be foreign (pun intended) to the US audience.
19:13:30 <Mekkis> I should start being more serious at playing the Creditcard game
19:39:52 <Brunius|L> Avatar: ping
19:59:18 <Steven1> Red alert time.
20:05:50 <Steven1> sup
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20:36:16 <Mekkis> pong
20:37:16 <Brunius> Red Alert 1?
20:38:08 <Mekkis> Rather disappointed about Unchained, to be honest.
20:38:18 <Mekkis> It's going on the list of Books I Won't Buy
20:50:54 <Brunius_> Mekkis: I want to get the domain bruni.us, but godaddy currently owns it. Are they likely holding it specifically to resell?
20:52:50 <Mekkis> Godaddy isn't holding it
20:53:00 <Mekkis> the person who is, however, looks like they are
20:55:35 <Mekkis> Brunius_, b.runi.us is available
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22:24:39 <Avatar> er, really?
22:25:04 <Avatar> s_gmusic can you confirm that
22:27:24 <Mekkis> what confirmation do you need, Avatar ?
22:41:56 <Mekkis> Avatar,
22:42:56 <Mekkis> So. The guys in Canberra are insisting that if you bypass an encounter, you should have gold docked from you.
22:43:06 <Ulzef2> hey mekkis you about on lunch break
22:47:27 <Ulzef2> nvm gots to go
22:47:41 <Brunius`> PFS guide as of 2014-05 says: If that scene specifically calls for
22:47:41 <Brunius`> the PCs to receive gold piece rewards based
22:47:41 <Brunius`> on the gear collected from the defeated
22:47:41 <Brunius`> combatants, instead allow the PCs to find
22:47:41 <Brunius`> a chest of gold (or something similar)
22:47:42 <Brunius`> that gives them the same rewards.
22:50:12 <steamybuttnuts> hello
22:56:38 <Mekkis> ulzef, can you help me weigh up the benefits and costs with taking three levels of rogue on my inquisitor?
23:02:32 <Brunius`> It's page 33 in that version, dunno what it is in the current one
23:21:21 <Mekkis> I know. They're claiming that what's written in the scenario trumps it
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23:46:30 <Avatar> tell them to go jump
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