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00:15:59 <Brunius|M> What's Saturday
00:21:17 <Avatar> the first day of the weekend
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02:48:37 <Philderbeast> i need to find a medium/large/huge gold dragon minis
02:48:58 <s_gmusic> do you RP the deafness or is it actual mechanics?
02:49:09 <Spaceshot> both
02:49:18 <Spaceshot> I'm an oracle
02:49:19 <s_gmusic> philder, I haven't seen any good minis that are similar to a gold dragon.
02:49:20 <Spaceshot> deaf oracle
02:49:23 <s_gmusic> ah
02:49:44 <Philderbeast> hmmmm my sorcerer is going to turn in to one when he gets to the right level so i want the mini for it
02:50:54 <s_gmusic> perhaps this one? http://www.reapermini.com/Miniatures/Bones%20dragon/sku-down/77108
02:51:30 <Philderbeast> yea its an option i just dont know what size it is
02:52:08 <Spaceshot> https://www.coolminiornot.com/shop/female-empire-agent-light-faction.html
02:52:15 <Spaceshot> would be good if Ava was Xian
02:53:33 <s_gmusic> :O
02:53:35 <s_gmusic> I WANT
02:53:37 <s_gmusic> >.>
02:53:57 <Philderbeast> http://www.reapermini.com/Miniatures/dragon/sku-down/02453
02:55:27 <s_gmusic> philder, that dragon I linked before is described as an "Adult" dragon, which Bestiary I says is Huge.
02:56:04 <Philderbeast> hmmm i need medium first... im thinking if i cant find anything better ill buy the white dragon evolution set and paint them gold
02:56:15 <s_gmusic> heh
02:56:33 <Philderbeast> http://www.trollandtoad.com/p122995.html for a prepainted version, not sure i like that mini though
02:57:03 <Spaceshot> https://www.coolminiornot.com/shop/visions-in-fantasy-female-undead-hunter.html
02:57:23 <Spaceshot> that is cool, and I do usually wear a cape/cloak, at least I believe I have it written down somewhere
02:57:29 <s_gmusic> philder: bleh. also, it was made for the D&D minis game.
02:57:34 <Spaceshot> just changed the sword to a rod + buckler and I'm good
02:58:11 <Philderbeast> i can find every colour but gold :(
02:58:27 <s_gmusic> dammit, space, I'm trying to NOT buy a bunch of minis here. xP
02:58:31 <Spaceshot> get a generic dragon, paint it gold?
02:58:39 <Philderbeast> yea im thinking thats what im going to do
02:58:45 <Spaceshot> if you live in Melbourne/Vic I will gladly let you and just mug them when needed :P
02:58:45 <Philderbeast> i just need to fine 3 good dragon minis lol
02:58:53 <Philderbeast> as i get bigger as i level
02:59:19 <Spaceshot> how much are you willing to spend for the largest one?
02:59:32 <Philderbeast> if my character survives to that level a lot lol
02:59:44 <Spaceshot> https://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/Bones/sku-down/77109
02:59:57 <Spaceshot> if that specific dragon hasn't already been specified
03:00:00 <Philderbeast> yea i linkthed that one already
03:00:14 <Spaceshot> well it is good
03:00:25 <Philderbeast> and i like bones for minis
03:00:28 <Spaceshot> not really that good for the large size
03:01:46 <Spaceshot> gmusic, I don't usually worry about minis, at least not making/buying one specifically for it unless it's at least level 3
03:01:57 <Spaceshot> the legionnaire was just suited and I already done it prior
03:03:30 <Philderbeast> [3~http://www.reapermini.com/Miniatures/Bones/sku-down/89001
03:03:48 <Philderbeast> that mini has potental, and looks cool for a sorcerer becoming a dragon
03:16:22 <s_gmusic> yup. might have to mod it a bit to feel more like a gold dragon than just a gold-colored Red
03:17:26 <s_gmusic> I could see using Green Stuff putty to make the wings run down the back.
03:24:16 <Philderbeast> hmmm ill have to take a look around
03:31:49 <s_gmusic> yup. that's always fun to do because you may get an idea for something else.
03:33:20 <Spaceshot> I have a nice model for what my new hunter is going to be, though it may need to be elven for it to work
03:33:26 <Spaceshot> let me see if I can find the model online
03:35:51 <Spaceshot> http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440027a&prodId=prod1160057a&rootCatGameStyle=
03:36:08 <Spaceshot> not finecast, actual metal
03:36:18 <Spaceshot> and I have yet to paint it, it's only undercoated white so far
03:36:57 <s_gmusic> nice
03:37:13 <Spaceshot> still not sure if I want a cat or a wolf
03:37:21 <Spaceshot> or anything else
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04:00:29 <s_gmusic> so... just seen that one of the guys in my Wrath of the Righteous group is having their birthday today. wonder if I should grant an item or a one-time buff for the duration of the adventure?
04:02:33 <Damalon01> Yo Avatar are you likely to run a game of PFS this Saturday? i dont want to pressure you, I'd just like to know so I can plan out my weekend.
04:07:35 <Spaceshot> wrath of the righteous? some premade massive campaign thing?
04:11:51 <Damalon01> its an adventure path for the Year of the Demon
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04:47:10 <Spaceshot> ahh
04:47:14 <Spaceshot> sounds interesting then
04:48:35 <Philderbeast> hmmm i think i just found my huge gold dragon mini for when i get there
04:48:58 <Spaceshot> is gold fire or electric?
04:49:03 <Philderbeast> fire
04:49:45 <Philderbeast> http://www.reapermini.com/Miniatures/cinder/latest/10014
05:03:06 <Spaceshot> well, I'm going to be playing a level 1 hunter (either fresh 1.0 or 1.1xp from a remake I still have valid)
05:03:16 <Spaceshot> now I have no idea what pet to use
05:08:22 <s_gmusic> get both and have one of them be a non-combat pet like the monkeys you can buy?
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05:31:14 <Spaceshot> meh
05:32:09 <Spaceshot> I want a melee pet, but I'm not sure which
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06:55:44 <Brunius|M-> Something's just come up, SS is tba
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06:57:23 <Steven> sad panda
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07:17:41 <Avatar> shit I should schedule we be goblins
07:17:56 <Steven> we be goblins 2?
07:18:02 <Avatar> nobody answered me on whether they thought this saturday would be good !
07:18:13 <Avatar> not we be goblins too, I haven't played it yet and nobody will run it for me !
07:18:38 <Yiroep> Define "Saturday." LOL>
07:18:40 <Yiroep> Like what time.
07:18:50 <Avatar> my saturday morning, your friday night
07:18:55 <Yiroep> Hrm....
07:19:01 <Avatar> it's the american-friendly timeslot
07:19:40 <Avatar> basically about 26 odd hours from now
07:19:59 <Yiroep> So 2 hours + a day...eh, if I got off work a lil early.
07:21:06 <Yiroep> WBG isn't really my thing, though, heh.
07:21:27 <Avatar> there'll be other scenarios
07:21:30 <Yiroep> Played it...it was O.K. Don't really like the whole goblin persona.
07:21:31 <Avatar> traitor's lodge is after that
07:21:45 <Avatar> gotta run, work calls
07:22:24 <Yiroep> Lol, played that too on a whim. Joined after all the beginning RP part from another table when I finished a module early.
07:23:02 <Yiroep> That was a fun scenario, even if one of the players screwed up a part of it for us.
07:23:07 <Yiroep> Stupid stonelord paladins, lol.
07:23:55 <Avatar> delirium's tangle is good
07:23:56 <Yiroep> Was playing my deaf oracle. I love it cause he's a front liner and people try to shout battle tactics at him.
07:24:02 <Yiroep> He's not exactly paying attention...
07:24:08 <Avatar> there aren't many you need to consider avoiding
07:24:19 <Avatar> darkest vengeance, dalsine affair
07:24:56 <Avatar> a lot of people say severing ties, but my group did pretty fine with it
07:25:16 <Avatar> king of old azlant I've heard is another nasty one
07:25:29 <Avatar> before the dawn 2 can be nasty
07:27:10 <Yiroep> Funny moment when playing him: We were walking along, and everyone hears screaching (except me, of course), so the wizard starts off by casting obscuring mist without saying anything. The screaching is actually deafening and deafens our wizard. He is the only one I can see at the moment, and he doesn't explain what's going on, so I stand around in the mist for the entire battle because I didn't know there was danger.
07:27:51 <Yiroep> And for some reason, everyone in the party moved perfectly around me so that I couldn't see them going by.
07:37:05 <Spaceshot_> and temple of empyrial enlightenment is hard for low tier
07:46:32 <Avatar> I played it at low tier
07:46:41 <Avatar> and granted, we very nearly TPK'd
07:46:45 <Avatar> but it was run wrong
07:46:53 <Avatar> and our party made some very silly errors
07:51:44 <Spaceshot_> run wrong?
07:51:51 <Spaceshot_> BBEG wrong, or just general wrong?
07:52:06 <Avatar> the GM made a mistake, wasn't run as written
07:52:21 <Avatar> ended up getting swamped with everything at once when we weren't supposed to
07:52:30 <Spaceshot_> ahh... yea I know what you mean
07:52:59 <Spaceshot_> in theory that's possible, very very vague theory
07:53:33 <Avatar> what do you mean in theory it's possible
07:53:35 <Avatar> it did happen
07:54:40 <Spaceshot_> no, I mean as written it's possible
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08:27:06 <Avatar> we didn't do anything to trigger that kind of thing
08:30:26 <Avatar> the GM reroll is a pretty fantastic incentive to start GMing
08:30:37 <Avatar> stephen very rarely plays, but played at arcanacon
08:30:51 <Avatar> and we pointed out to him he has a +5 to his reroll and it did him some rather large favours
08:31:09 <Spaceshot_> oh yea the stars = bonus to reroll
08:31:21 <Avatar> having a save of +6 then adding a dice roll of 10 then adding a +5 GM reroll to that is pretty amazing
08:31:50 <Spaceshot_> mmm
08:31:58 <Spaceshot_> now I just have to make my hunter for sunday
08:32:18 <Avatar> going from 16 to 21 is a live-saving change
08:32:24 <Spaceshot_> usually
08:32:29 <Avatar> it is
08:32:36 <Avatar> saves are usually more than 16 but less than 21
08:32:43 <Avatar> hands down
08:32:44 <Spaceshot_> also, do you prefer flavour or function when making a character?
08:32:48 <Avatar> that's on an average roll
08:32:53 <Avatar> function
08:32:59 <Avatar> flavour is secondary
08:33:09 <Spaceshot_> MUNCHKIN
08:33:12 <Spaceshot_> haha
08:33:13 <Avatar> if you don't mind dying, then use flavour
08:33:44 <Avatar> some people talk about creating their characters based on concept first, then building functionally to that concept
08:33:58 <Spaceshot_> tis a roleplayer's view
08:34:00 <Avatar> that requires a certain system mastery
08:34:09 <Avatar> more than what I've got
08:34:21 <Spaceshot_> system mastery?
08:34:43 <Avatar> knowledge of what feats and traits and spells etc are out there
08:34:46 <Spaceshot_> I think it's just people wanting to have fun with what they're playing, to be able to get into the body/mind of the character, rather than just play the numbers game
08:35:23 <Avatar> some people can do one or the other, much fewer can do both
08:37:12 <Spaceshot_> each to their own
08:37:32 <Spaceshot_> me, I am going to be scouring books through till saturday night, amongst doing other stuff
08:37:35 <Spaceshot_> to get my concept workin
08:42:45 <Spaceshot_> are there any alternative elves like the alternative tieflings and assimars?
08:51:53 <Avatar> mate don't even go there
08:52:01 <Avatar> tieflings are widely not respected
08:53:32 <Spaceshot_> no I just mean like in 3.5 where they had wood elf, sun elf, moon elf and drow
08:53:44 <Spaceshot_> I'm surprised they don't have that for pathfinder
08:54:10 <Avatar> probably because it was LaM3
08:54:52 <Spaceshot_> well sorry if I wish to be a woodelf
08:55:10 <Spaceshot_> I most-likely need to take an assimar subtype to get my desired feel
09:00:42 <Spaceshot_> may even require a tiefling
09:00:44 <Spaceshot_> hmm...
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09:17:52 <Brunius|M> What's Saturday
09:23:11 <Avatar> the first day of the weekend
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11:35:34 <Theta> Aww, They took down the Serpent's Skull game for tomorrow
11:40:59 <Steven> indeeed.
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11:47:34 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Fri Jan 31 07:00:17 2014
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13:38:18 <Steven> oh mans... these two new scenarios
13:38:21 <Steven> pretty fuckin epic.
13:48:32 <Mekkis> moin
13:49:04 <Damalon01> whats epic about em steven?
13:49:16 <Mekkis> they're scenarios he can play
13:51:07 <Mekkis> Brunius, you around
13:51:07 <Steven> yup pretty much
13:51:10 <Mekkis> or O`mally?
13:51:24 <Steven> and they look pretty awesome.
13:51:27 <Damalon01> hehehe
13:51:36 <Damalon01> what tier?
13:52:15 <Steven> 1-5 5-9
13:52:37 <Steven> there we go, beat banner saga.
13:53:40 <Mekkis> Steven, I've heard rumours of retiring Eot10, but the source is very suspicious, unreliable, and untrustworthy. Can you give me any insight?
13:54:31 <Steven> no
13:56:38 <Mekkis> elaborate
13:57:21 <Steven> i dont believe i need to
13:57:23 <Mekkis> is the VC just scaremongering
13:57:39 <Damalon01> I bought Banner Saga
13:57:45 <Damalon01> i like it so far
13:57:47 <Steven> pretty good game
13:57:50 <Damalon01> hard tho
13:58:04 <Steven> how far are you?
13:58:33 <Steven> and yeah, some of the stuff that happens is pretty damned hard
13:58:40 <Damalon01> not that Far steven, im with Rook at the moment and they just crrossed the wastses
13:58:53 <Steven> kick ass
13:59:13 <Damalon01> i think they are about to go to Grofflheim or whatever its called, the Varl Capital
13:59:41 <Damalon01> the game makes me wanna play an Ulfen \
14:00:57 <Steven> it really does
14:01:00 <Steven> i built one. lol
14:01:14 <Steven> also, the spell BURST WITH LIGHT is pretty bad ass
14:01:53 <Damalon01> lol
14:02:29 <Steven> 4th level light spell.
14:02:50 <Steven> !spell burst with light
14:07:55 <***> Buffer Playback...
14:07:55 <***> Playback Complete.
14:08:11 <Steven> so yeah, pretty cool stuff.
14:08:28 <Steven> i need to go to the store again. my dad ran out of milk...
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14:11:27 <Steven> http://mashable.com/2014/01/30/stay-in-school-psa/
14:11:36 <Steven> heh
14:11:40 <Steven> way to go australia.
14:50:55 <Philderbeast> yea thats kind of disterbing
14:55:04 <Steven> in all the right ways.
14:55:17 <Steven> seriously threat of stepping on landmine... best reason to stay in school.
14:57:28 <Philderbeast> or a great way to win a darin award
14:57:34 <Philderbeast> darwin*
14:57:44 <Steven> how many do you have?
14:57:50 <Steven> no wait dont bother... not enough
14:57:53 <Philderbeast> lol
14:57:56 <Steven> BOOSH!
14:58:08 <Philderbeast> never enough darwin awards
14:58:23 <Steven> so whatcha gonna run for us today mang?
14:59:00 <Steven> dont worry ahtuz is out of tier...
14:59:07 <Steven> and on hold till after eyes
14:59:10 <Philderbeast> ?
14:59:28 <Philderbeast> he got to 12?
14:59:49 <Philderbeast> you can play exactly nothing that i can gm
14:59:50 <Steven> yup
15:00:00 <Steven> False.
15:00:09 <Steven> two scenarios released today.
15:00:21 <Philderbeast> that i dont want to run untill i have played
15:00:41 <Steven> oh come on... it'll be fun!
15:00:42 <Mekkis> Philderbeast, there are scenarios that you can run for me...
15:01:11 <Philderbeast> first steps and confirmation
15:01:13 <Philderbeast> for you Mekkis
15:01:38 <Mekkis> didnt you play stuff at cancon>
15:01:41 <Steven> i should get a day of the demon game up.
15:01:48 <Philderbeast> like 3 games
15:01:50 <Steven> so i can get that out of the way
15:02:10 <Philderbeast> confirmation, crypt of the ever flame, and murder on the throaty mermaid
15:02:10 <Steven> for my 5 star qualification.
15:03:25 <Philderbeast> i can play that :P
15:03:30 <Philderbeast> so i guess your running :P
15:12:01 <Philderbeast> wow the only games i could run for you are season 5 stuff
15:17:05 <Avatar> yo
15:17:10 <Philderbeast> hey
15:18:45 <Avatar> Mekkis: did you see my message on paizo about your arcane bonded staff
15:18:55 <Mekkis> no
15:19:07 <Avatar> !feat craft staff
15:19:09 <diebot> Avatar, CRAFT STAFF [Item Creation]Prereq: Caster level 11th. You can create magic staves.
15:19:09 <diebot> Benefit: You can create any staff whose prerequisites you meet. Crafting a staff takes 1 day for each 1,000 gp in its base price. To craft a staff, you must use up raw materials costing half of its base price. A newly created staff has 10 charges. See the magic item creation rules in Magic Items for more information. Source: Core
15:19:10 <Steven> link it yo!
15:19:17 <Avatar> from what I understand you need to be 11th level to make it
15:19:23 <Mekkis> what arcane bonded staff
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15:19:28 <Avatar> your cloudkill one
15:19:30 <Mekkis> last I checked, I haven't bought one yet
15:19:35 <Mekkis> that's not arcane bonded
15:19:40 <Mekkis> I paid full price for it
15:19:47 <Avatar> ohhh that's right
15:20:08 <Avatar> what arcane bonds do you have
15:20:20 <Mekkis> a nonmagical staff
15:20:36 <Avatar> maybe that's what I'm thinking of
15:26:33 <Philderbeast> i wonder how much space i would need to keep every PFS scenario pfd...
15:26:37 <Philderbeast> pdf*
15:27:16 <Steven> bout 900mb
15:27:34 <Philderbeast> that all.... awsome
15:28:52 <Avatar> really
15:29:18 <Spaceshot> they are small
15:29:25 <Avatar> wow yeah you are right
15:29:32 <Avatar> that was taking up more space than I thought
15:30:04 <Philderbeast> hmmm i already have 100mb of them
15:30:12 <Steven> my entire pfs library of pdfs is about 2.5 gb
15:30:28 <Philderbeast> is that zipped up?
15:30:36 <Steven> no
15:31:09 <Philderbeast> i need to start prepping my soft copies
15:31:13 <Philderbeast> before i get to melb
15:31:35 <Steven> oh, forgot to add the big books into it, 3.2gb all together.
15:32:02 <Steven> but those include previous versions of the book.
15:32:16 <Avatar> you'll likely want to add in GM shared prep materials
15:32:51 <Philderbeast> yea i already have that in my google drifve
15:33:00 <Steven> if i do that im tappin at like 4gb
15:33:26 <Philderbeast> as long as i dont hit 15gb im all good ;)
15:34:13 <Philderbeast> so i can access it all on my tablet at games das
15:34:15 <Philderbeast> days*
15:34:39 <Brunius> Mekkis, I am now
15:34:59 <Brunius> When you comin' down Philderbeast?
15:35:12 <Philderbeast> i get there on the 15th
15:35:21 <Philderbeast> so ill probably be at box hill on 16th
15:36:07 <Damalon01> Steven, i just fought Bellower and met the Serpent and Juno. Dont got moar time to play nao.
15:37:31 <Mekkis> pm
15:39:00 <Steven> shitty titties
15:42:48 <Brunius> ugh, I've got stuff I have to go to on the 16th
15:43:08 <Mekkis> 15th good?
15:43:25 <Brunius> so far
15:43:37 <Philderbeast> i wont get in to town till late on the 15th, i have to drive from wagga to cerberus that day
15:46:51 <Mekkis> so WotW then
15:46:58 <Mekkis> Damalon01, you're free that day, right?
15:47:34 <Steven> i'll be qualified for 5 star on the 15th
15:48:37 <Mekkis> that will be good. You can stop focussing on quantity and start working on quality
15:49:20 <Damalon01> Yap ill be free on the 15th. A slave for the rest of the week tho.
15:49:48 <Damalon01> oooo Mekkis thats a burn
15:49:58 <Damalon01> Steven you got burned
15:50:12 <Steven> its a mekkis burn which counts for about jack shit.
15:50:17 <Damalon01> hehehe
15:50:32 <Brunius> Nah I think that was an Avatar-grade burn
15:51:55 <Steven> f it was avatar his opinion would count.
15:52:10 <Damalon01> ouch
15:57:38 <Brunius|M-> Something's just come up, SS is tba
15:59:18 <Steven> sad panda
15:59:39 <Damalon01> ok im off
15:59:42 <Damalon01> have fun
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16:19:35 <Avatar> shit I should schedule we be goblins
16:19:50 <Steven> we be goblins 2?
16:19:56 <Avatar> nobody answered me on whether they thought this saturday would be good !
16:20:08 <Avatar> not we be goblins too, I haven't played it yet and nobody will run it for me !
16:20:32 <Yiroep> Define "Saturday." LOL>
16:20:34 <Yiroep> Like what time.
16:20:44 <Avatar> my saturday morning, your friday night
16:20:49 <Yiroep> Hrm....
16:20:55 <Avatar> it's the american-friendly timeslot
16:21:34 <Avatar> basically about 26 odd hours from now
16:21:53 <Yiroep> So 2 hours + a day...eh, if I got off work a lil early.
16:23:00 <Yiroep> WBG isn't really my thing, though, heh.
16:23:21 <Avatar> there'll be other scenarios
16:23:24 <Yiroep> Played it...it was O.K. Don't really like the whole goblin persona.
16:23:25 <Avatar> traitor's lodge is after that
16:23:39 <Avatar> gotta run, work calls
16:24:18 <Yiroep> Lol, played that too on a whim. Joined after all the beginning RP part from another table when I finished a module early.
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16:24:57 <Yiroep> That was a fun scenario, even if one of the players screwed up a part of it for us.
16:25:01 <Yiroep> Stupid stonelord paladins, lol.
16:25:50 <Yiroep> Was playing my deaf oracle. I love it cause he's a front liner and people try to shout battle tactics at him.
16:25:56 <Yiroep> He's not exactly paying attention...
16:29:04 <Yiroep> Funny moment when playing him: We were walking along, and everyone hears screaching (except me, of course), so the wizard starts off by casting obscuring mist without saying anything. The screaching is actually deafening and deafens our wizard. He is the only one I can see at the moment, and he doesn't explain what's going on, so I stand around in the mist for the entire battle because I didn't know there was danger.
16:29:45 <Yiroep> And for some reason, everyone in the party moved perfectly around me so that I couldn't see them going by.
16:31:37 <Philderbeast> is there a text only list of scenarios somewvere
16:31:43 <Philderbeast> preferably with teir
16:32:53 <Steven> yeah go to google and type in Scenario tracking sheet
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16:42:01 <Philderbeast> anything in particular you recoomned?
16:44:23 <Steven> no, we have our own at the shop
16:44:53 <Philderbeast> ok then, im just trying to make something for myself at the moment
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16:53:01 <BI_LOVS_2_SUK> any1 from melb wana meet up
16:53:14 <Brunius> Avatar
16:53:27 <Steven> maybe you could both get in on that brun...
16:53:30 <Steven> double team.
16:54:09 <Spaceshot> steven is just jealous he isn't in melbourne
16:54:40 <Steven> no... i dont like bigirls... i got double the competition
16:55:32 <Spaceshot> then you're in luck, I don't think it's a girl...
16:55:53 <Steven> excellent... brunius lets do this!
16:57:48 <Steven> heh
16:57:55 <Steven> that was awesome
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17:09:12 <profit> hello
17:09:53 <Steven> sup
17:10:02 <profit> not much
17:12:08 <profit> So, I just came across Pathfinders Online...
17:12:28 <Steven> kickin
17:12:50 <profit> Are there games quite often?
17:13:34 <Steven> as often as people schedule them.
17:13:49 <Steven> we were going to play tomorrow... but brunius broke my heart!
17:14:15 <profit> aw. sad day
17:17:33 <Mekkis> Brunius, tanks?
17:20:09 <Steven> we should play a game tomorrow.
17:20:24 <Mekkis> I plan to
17:20:26 <Philderbeast> i should be up for it
17:20:42 <Steven> not tanks mekkis, a pfs game.
17:20:45 <Philderbeast> but i have nothing to gm for you before you ask
17:21:11 <Mekkis> not referring to tanks
17:21:39 <Steven> thats okay philder... i'm considering running something.
17:22:23 <Philderbeast> i would like to play my level 4 if that helps you pick something
17:23:04 <Steven> im updating my gm game list
17:25:20 <Philderbeast> i have a 1, 2, 4 and 5 i can playu, but the lvl 4 is my focus to play atm
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17:28:36 <profit> is that an open invitation?
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17:32:16 <Steven> !rand #3 #13 #45 #47 #2-21 #3-21 #5-01
17:32:16 <dicebot> Steven, random: #47
17:32:36 <Steven> look like #47: The Darkest Vengeance
17:37:16 <Philderbeast> hmmm sounds interesting
17:40:49 <Philderbeast> hmmm i see a lot of people calling it overly deadly....
17:41:00 <Mekkis> heh
17:41:07 <Mekkis> it's one of the scenarios I haven't played
17:41:38 <Mekkis> it's less deadly now than it used to be, but that's only because of some changes to the Guide
17:41:43 <Philderbeast> just means i might not being my sorc to it depending on party make up
17:42:24 <Mekkis> it's a scenario I've decided never to run. Players don't deserve it
17:45:50 <Philderbeast> there are some scenraions that are just no fun
17:46:06 <Philderbeast> like putting a deadly creature in the first combat that means players cant heal.......
17:47:45 <Mekkis> An impossible final combat?
17:48:18 <Philderbeast> not in the one im talking about but darkest vengence sounds like it migh tbe one
17:48:42 <Mekkis> if you're talking about a certain season 5
17:48:49 <Philderbeast> nope
17:49:26 <Philderbeast> i have only played 3 season 5 games
17:49:59 <Mekkis> a certain retired season 0 scenario?
17:51:01 <Mekkis> is it a scenario that I've played?
17:52:13 <Philderbeast> i dont think so
17:52:40 <Philderbeast> home you habent played it
17:52:48 <Philderbeast> wow that was bad typing
17:52:51 <Philderbeast> you havent played it
17:53:45 <Mekkis> is it the one you were talking about last Monday?
17:54:34 <Mekkis> I'd like to point out that if it's a 7-11, that sort of thing is generally acceptable
17:55:58 <Philderbeast> acceptable? not allowing a party to heal ever in a scenario.....
17:56:41 <Mekkis> if the scenario's designed for that
17:56:56 <Philderbeast> and having muiltiple encounters at the epic difficulty rating
17:57:00 <Philderbeast> and higher
17:58:26 <Philderbeast> (APL+4 encounters)
17:59:16 <Philderbeast> i hardly call it designed for that at that point
17:59:56 <Steven> what scenario philder?
18:00:08 <Philderbeast> King Xeros of old azlant
18:00:28 <Philderbeast> i ran it at teir 7-8
18:00:35 <Philderbeast> #20 from memory
18:00:52 <Steven> oh yeah thats a rough one.
18:01:57 <Philderbeast> yea the first encounter for t7-8 is just nuts regardless of where you get the moster stats from
18:02:09 <Philderbeast> i went and looked up the 3.5 version to see it it made and diffrence
18:03:41 <Steven> i believe thats one where i got a tpk on a party.
18:04:17 <Mekkis> bit mean of them getting you to GM that scenario, really
18:04:39 <Steven> they didnt have problem with the first encounter really.
18:04:42 <Philderbeast> it was all the table could play that i could run on short notice with minimal books on hand
18:04:54 <Mekkis> so you ran it cold?
18:05:04 <Philderbeast> yea
18:05:19 <Philderbeast> i tend to have to run most things cold. im kind of getting use to it
18:05:24 <Mekkis> that never works out well
18:05:30 <Steven> it was the xill.... my god they were nasty.
18:05:34 <Mekkis> it can work out /alright/ bit it can't work out well
18:06:08 <Philderbeast> the xill were nasty but the patry handled them with out to much hassle but the first encounter almost killed the whole party
18:06:14 <Mekkis> I hope you didn't softball it too much
18:06:30 <Philderbeast> not much
18:06:41 <Philderbeast> just enough so they could play more then 5 mins of the game
18:06:50 <Philderbeast> cause thats no fun for anyone
18:07:39 <Steven> i gm'd it at the 10-11 with a 6 person table... and 8 xill just ganked em hard.
18:07:54 <Philderbeast> 8? what rooms that in?
18:08:13 <Philderbeast> 2nd level?
18:08:27 <Steven> yup
18:08:51 <Philderbeast> thats not so bad because of the tactics they have
18:09:52 <Steven> are you kidding me? with 8 of them its horrible tactics
18:10:16 <Philderbeast> what standing there for 2 full rounds doing nothing?
18:10:23 <Philderbeast> if they down someone....
18:10:50 <Steven> surprise round phase into flanking a person roll initiative with +8 mod...
18:11:09 <Philderbeast> mine couldnt get in to flank in that room
18:11:13 <Philderbeast> it wasent big enough
18:11:29 <Philderbeast> even with only 4 of them and a 4 player table
18:13:33 <Philderbeast> not a scenario im in a hury to run or play any time soon though
18:13:57 <Steven> are you joking, the room they are in is 40ftx20ft
18:14:16 <Philderbeast> not on the map i was looking at.....
18:14:31 <Philderbeast> prehaps i interpreted it a little diffrent and i dont have it here now to look at again
18:14:45 <Steven> you need to pay attention to maps then, each square is 10ft
18:14:53 <Philderbeast> 5ft....
18:14:55 <Philderbeast> ?
18:14:56 <Steven> 10ft
18:15:04 <Mekkis> Who were the heartless bastards who made you run a 7-11 cold?
18:15:27 <Steven> they put the square conversion right under the map title.
18:15:29 <Philderbeast> since when are aquares 10tf... was there a scale on it i missed?
18:15:44 <Philderbeast> doh missed that...
18:15:52 <Steven> some maps 5ft, some 10ft, some 20ft
18:16:02 <Philderbeast> oh well probably saved my players a lot of pain then
18:16:20 <Steven> granted i've only seen one map with 20ft squares
18:16:50 <Steven> but anyways, yeah that scenario is nasty business.
18:17:20 <Philderbeast> hmmm i dont think i have niticed them ever being more then 5ft.... ill have to have a look through what i have
18:18:03 <Steven> absolutely necessary you check map scale. terrain plays a huge part in making a game more challenging
18:18:33 <Philderbeast> im looking through mine now to see if any have one thats not 5ft
18:19:12 <Spaceshot> I know in thornkeep the map scale is like 1km/mile...
18:19:20 <Spaceshot> but that is the overland map to show how huge the area is
18:20:02 <Steven> so yeah, my players walked in, got surprised and flanked
18:20:18 <Philderbeast> and you took swords to them?
18:20:28 <Steven> yeah.
18:20:43 <Philderbeast> yea i only used the claws and still dropped players
18:21:24 <Steven> i split them in groups of 2 so i had 4 groups of mobs instead of 1 group of 8
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18:21:56 <Steven> cause 8 mobs going at once just isnt fair really.
18:22:24 <Steven> and rolled their initiative and they all went within 5 initiative of each other.
18:22:51 <Steven> so first round, warrior decides to disarm one of them
18:23:42 <Steven> so the thing clawed him in the face and bit him failed a fort so it paralyzed him, then his xill partner decided to phase out.
18:24:13 <Steven> and thats pretty much how the rest of them went down over the next couple rounds of combat
18:24:17 <Steven> it was pretty horrible.
18:24:31 <Philderbeast> ouch... but the party still had 2 rounds to save him... not that it probably would have helped
18:24:35 <Spaceshot> this is why people need to get some aberation bane shit
18:24:38 <Spaceshot> they are scary fucks
18:24:52 <Steven> they were unable to save him in the 2 rounds
18:24:56 <Spaceshot> or is xill extraplanar?
18:25:01 <Steven> extraplanar
18:25:07 <Spaceshot> astral plane?
18:25:21 <Spaceshot> or some weird end of the realms shit
18:25:25 <Steven> ethereal
18:25:35 <Spaceshot> ahh
18:26:03 <Spaceshot> d20pfsrd is allowed for GMing PFS right?
18:26:23 <Steven> technically supposed to use the srd on paizo.
18:26:40 <Spaceshot> that one?
18:26:43 <Spaceshot> but that one sucks balls
18:26:51 <Steven> and anyone who uses things not in it are to furnish you with the source.
18:27:53 <Philderbeast> even some things that are in there
18:28:13 <Steven> yeah.. usually give it the handwave.
18:28:32 <Steven> if i can find it in the srd, i dont bother checking if they have it since its quicker
18:28:42 <Philderbeast> yea nothing i own has a map scale other then 5ft
18:28:49 <Philderbeast> no wonder i hadnt seen it before
18:29:10 <Steven> but if somebody tells me they are using an item out of the Adventurers armory and they've been playing a whole two weeks, im like show me the source
18:29:58 <Spaceshot> oh I was more just asking about it so I don't have to lump around a book or PDF for like one monster the scenario asks me to look up instead of having the stats in the scenario
18:30:01 <Philderbeast> lets be honest its not that expensive to buy the PDF's of the books you use
18:30:27 <Philderbeast> yea PRD is great for that
18:30:57 <Philderbeast> i have an app on my tablet that i use to look stuff up in (usualy cause i dont have an internet connection) or print it from the PRD before i go out
18:31:31 <Spaceshot> what's the app called?
18:31:39 <Steven> ouch... fuck... my liver just decided to give me some pain.
18:32:03 <Philderbeast> masterwork toolkit i think
18:32:10 <Philderbeast> for android
18:32:33 <Philderbeast> mind you i also have PDF's of all my books on there if im in doubt
18:33:07 <Steven> i should probably get on purchasing bestiary 4
18:33:19 <Philderbeast> i still ned 2 and 3 lol
18:33:39 <Steven> my god man... how do you find interesting things to throw at players?
18:33:52 <Philderbeast> i dont build my own campaigns
18:34:24 <Spaceshot> I usually go through the weirder bestiaries/MMs
18:34:40 <Spaceshot> or just take a good look through the 3.5 Aberations book to scare people
18:35:08 <Philderbeast> ATM im only GMing Rise of the rune lords or PFS so its not a huge issue
18:38:40 <Spaceshot> can you still get the old pfs pregens somewhere?
18:38:49 <Spaceshot> like the better formatted portrait styled ones?
18:48:27 <Steven> prolly somewhere on the internet
18:49:55 <Spaceshot> good answer, was hoping for more direction though
18:50:12 <Philderbeast> www.google.com
18:50:19 <Steven> yup
18:53:08 <Philderbeast> http://rpggeek.com/image/1202187/samort7http://rpggeek.com/image/1202187/samort7?
18:53:15 <Philderbeast> take th ? off the end
18:56:50 <Philderbeast> http://paizo.com/products/btpy8ey4?Pathfinder-Module-Master-of-the-Fallen-Fortress the download there has some in a diffrent format to the standard pfs ones
18:56:56 <Philderbeast> let me know if i find the right style
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19:30:25 <Spaceshot_> thanks philder, forgot about fallen fortress
19:38:18 <Philderbeast> google is a wonderfull thing :P
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19:46:13 <Spaceshot_> tis it is
19:51:24 <Spaceshot_> a friend who is playing pathfinder for the second time (last time she played with an ex at a con and got bored as) and its also going to be my first time GMing PFS
19:51:27 <Spaceshot_> this sunday
19:52:05 <Philderbeast> what are you running?
19:52:28 <Spaceshot_> Penumbral Accords
19:52:43 <Philderbeast> i havent played that one
19:53:25 <Spaceshot_> ah hahaha
19:53:28 <Spaceshot_> now I remember this one
19:53:39 <Spaceshot_> that was a funny table
19:54:09 <Spaceshot_> me, ava a level 3 (or even level 2 at that point, I think 3) life oracle
19:54:11 <Spaceshot_> and 4 rogues
19:54:14 <Spaceshot_> 4 different rogues
19:54:18 <Philderbeast> LMAO
19:54:23 <Philderbeast> that would have been an amusing party
19:54:23 <Spaceshot_> was pretty lols
19:54:44 <Spaceshot_> do you know about the Onyx Alliance?
19:54:53 <Spaceshot_> The daughters of Absalom's mysterious Blakros family have long been among the most pursued maidens in the Inner Sea. Now the family's matriarch approaches the Pathfinder Society to help her break a centuries-old pact with the denizens of the Plane of Shadow to save her twin daughters from a life of servitude at the hands of the Onyx Alliance. Heading into the fan-favorite adventuring location of Blakros Museum, the PCs have only a short amount of
19:54:53 <Spaceshot_> time to break the Penumbral Accords and solidify the Pathfinder Society's ties to the powerful Blakroses.
19:54:56 <Philderbeast> aabout nothing
19:54:58 <Spaceshot_> that's the plot
19:55:06 <Philderbeast> ahhh the blackros family....
19:55:09 <Spaceshot_> I could explain how funny it was
19:55:10 <Philderbeast> them i have run in to
19:55:14 <Spaceshot_> but... them spoilers
19:55:29 <Philderbeast> yea please dont im sure to play that one
19:56:05 <Spaceshot_> all I will say, almost burnt down the museum (which unless you do the stupid thing/s we did, will not happen in any chance)
19:56:30 <Spaceshot_> if it weren't for cantrips being unlimited, and actually having create water, it would have
19:56:45 <Philderbeast> LMAO
19:56:56 <Philderbeast> sounds like my experances with we be gobline too
19:56:59 <Philderbeast> have you played that one?
19:58:48 <Spaceshot_> have yet to play either
19:59:01 <Philderbeast> all i will say is goblins + fireballs....
19:59:08 <Philderbeast> amusing to say the least
20:02:47 <Steven> I tpk'd a party there, which was fucking horrible
20:02:55 <Steven> so many terrible rolls
20:03:06 <Philderbeast> pnumbral? or we be goblins?
20:03:19 <Steven> penubral
20:03:32 <Philderbeast> sounds like you have a lot of tpks?
20:03:34 <Steven> so many natural 1s
20:03:39 <Steven> it was a dice fuck.
20:03:54 <Steven> seriously, a guy made 3 attacks in 1 round, all natural 1s.
20:04:00 <Spaceshot_> ouch
20:04:04 <Steven> several times.
20:04:19 <Philderbeast> ouch
20:04:23 <Philderbeast> not much you can do about that
20:04:26 <Steven> yeah it was freakin horrible.
20:04:33 <Spaceshot_> steven, 4 rogues, 1 life oracle
20:04:35 <Spaceshot_> first encounter
20:04:39 <Steven> heh
20:04:41 <Steven> nice
20:04:42 <Spaceshot_> yea
20:04:45 <Spaceshot_> it was a funny fight
20:04:53 <Spaceshot_> we had to come back :P
20:05:04 <Steven> heh
20:05:24 <Spaceshot_> we also burnt the back room, almost to the ground
20:05:30 <Philderbeast> if you want an amusing role play moment think of this, party enchouters 2 swarms and relises we only have about 3 alchemist fires total between us
20:05:32 <Spaceshot_> one of the rogues had a brilliant idea
20:05:45 <Philderbeast> for splash weapons
20:05:51 <Philderbeast> party starts to run away
20:06:22 <Steven> tiny sized swarm or dimunative?
20:06:23 <Philderbeast> barbarian player has an idea, covers him self with cloth and soaks it with oil flasks (about 6 from memory)
20:06:33 <Philderbeast> dimunative
20:06:36 <Steven> suppose i can just go look it up
20:06:58 <Philderbeast> runs in to swams and waits for both swarms to enter his square....
20:07:16 <Philderbeast> smashes alchemest fire on him self
20:07:26 <Steven> nice
20:07:29 <Philderbeast> 7d6 ish fire damage to him and the swarms....
20:07:36 <Philderbeast> on a lvl 2 barbarian....
20:07:56 <Philderbeast> party runs in and take sthe cloth off him so he doesnt take extra burn damage....
20:08:04 <Philderbeast> swarms get slaughtered by it...
20:08:13 <Steven> I've got this horrible idea for an oracle people at the shop have dubbed Mad Bomber
20:08:23 <Philderbeast> the barbarian player then runs some quick math on what happens and relises he got lucky the gm rolled low for the damage
20:09:01 <Philderbeast> (the party asked the gm to roll the damage once he recovered from understanding what we where trying to do and the resulting fit of laughter)
20:09:29 <Steven> all it does is run into a room invisible with a bunch of alchemists fire, acid flasks, holy water... what not, has the haunted curse... free action drop them all.
20:09:41 <Steven> room exploads.
20:10:07 <Philderbeast> LMAO
20:10:18 <Philderbeast> thats one way to deal with swarms
20:10:22 <Spaceshot_> so basically, gold sink
20:10:42 <Steven> yeah... but totally worth it.
20:10:47 <Spaceshot_> how do you get invisible, I didn't think clerics had it on their spell list
20:10:59 <Spaceshot_> nor oracles on any bonus list
20:11:02 <Philderbeast> potion?
20:11:35 <Steven> i got my ways.
20:11:46 <Philderbeast> or one of your thousand boons
20:12:01 <Spaceshot_> which he probably keeps a few boons each con he GMs
20:12:07 <Spaceshot_> that he probably should be giving out
20:12:26 <Philderbeast> who uses al there boons though...
20:12:32 <Philderbeast> i have 3 i havent used yet already
20:12:37 <Spaceshot_> doesn't matter
20:12:47 <Steven> actually i dont stockpile any boons for personal use from the convention boons i receive
20:13:02 <Spaceshot_> I have yet to get any boons
20:13:03 <Philderbeast> you just get more then you can use?
20:13:14 <Spaceshot_> unless you count golarion specialty days that everyone gets
20:13:30 <Spaceshot_> I'd like to get any race boon (besides the superceded ones)
20:13:32 <Steven> i go to 7 cons a year.
20:13:47 <Spaceshot_> do you auto get a boon going to a con in america?
20:14:29 <Steven> as a gm you auto get a boon.
20:14:43 <Spaceshot_> even for GMing one session?
20:14:58 <Steven> i dunno, i've never only gmed one session
20:15:05 <Avatar> steven trade me a boon
20:15:14 <Steven> i require 2 GM slots at the cons i organize
20:15:26 <Spaceshot_> you've got an undine right avatar?
20:15:31 <Avatar> yeah and an ifrit
20:15:35 <Avatar> I want neither of them
20:15:35 <Spaceshot_> both?
20:15:37 <Spaceshot_> lucky
20:15:43 <Spaceshot_> I could so go to town with either
20:15:44 <Avatar> yeah I GM'd at unicon and arcanacon
20:15:48 <Steven> i've already got both of those.
20:15:56 <Avatar> but don't you want another...?
20:15:58 <Spaceshot_> how many sessions did you GM at unicon?
20:16:07 <Avatar> just one I think
20:16:14 <Avatar> prince of augustana
20:16:17 <Spaceshot_> and auto boon?
20:16:22 <Avatar> yeah
20:16:25 <Spaceshot_> odd
20:16:33 <Spaceshot_> understand why (motivation to get people to GM at cons)
20:16:35 <Spaceshot_> but still
20:16:36 <Avatar> a while ago you needed to GM 2 I think
20:16:45 <Spaceshot_> I'd like to GM more
20:16:47 <Avatar> or there was talk about it
20:16:59 <Spaceshot_> means I don't die to stupid party comp (be it character or player comp, or both)
20:17:17 <Avatar> GM some games online to get yourself warmed up
20:17:25 <Spaceshot_> haven't you read on fb?
20:17:41 <Spaceshot_> doin prenumbral accords sunday
20:17:58 <Spaceshot_> it's a simple scenario, that I so cheesed with my wayfinder
20:18:06 <Spaceshot_> such a stupidly good 2PP item
20:18:36 <Avatar> I died in that scenario
20:18:42 <Spaceshot_> really?
20:18:50 <Spaceshot_> high or low tier?
20:18:54 <Avatar> yeah I got eaten on the ground by an outsider that doesn't eat
20:19:06 <Spaceshot_> mekkis running it?
20:19:12 <Avatar> I think it was high tier
20:19:15 <Avatar> yeah of course
20:19:23 <Philderbeast> speaking of boons i need to find mine
20:19:58 <Spaceshot_> speaking of boons, I'd like to get one
20:19:58 <Spaceshot_> haha
20:20:30 <Spaceshot_> though the guy who died in our game, who already rezed himself mid game (it was a module which had means of doing so)
20:20:31 <Philderbeast> lol
20:20:40 <Steven> soon as brunius sends me an address im sending him one.
20:20:47 <Spaceshot_> got the rez in advance, pay later boon
20:20:52 <Philderbeast> hmmm one of mine needs signing.....
20:20:56 <Spaceshot_> and why steven? (curious)
20:21:02 <Philderbeast> looks like we forgot about it during the last session
20:21:03 <Steven> cause he won it.
20:21:10 <Spaceshot_> when?
20:21:18 <Spaceshot_> was there an online con I missed?
20:21:24 <Philderbeast> cancon
20:21:26 <Steven> nope just foolin around
20:21:34 <Spaceshot_> thought you were above that
20:22:26 <Spaceshot_> ok, bought the scenario...
20:22:29 <Spaceshot_> doesn't want to download
20:22:41 <Avatar> give it a few seconds
20:23:05 <Philderbeast> hmmm when does season 5 end?
20:23:12 <Avatar> Philderbeast: trade you a boon
20:23:18 <Philderbeast> what you got?
20:23:23 <Avatar> an ifrit and an undine
20:23:40 <Spaceshot_> finally
20:23:48 <Philderbeast> thats tempting....
20:23:54 <Philderbeast> i only have season 5 boons
20:23:55 <Avatar> what've you got
20:24:08 <Spaceshot_> doesn't season 5 have skinwalker?
20:24:11 <Philderbeast> extra hours, former crusader and long didtasnce support
20:24:19 <Philderbeast> if so i dont have it
20:24:21 <Avatar> give me some descriptions of those in pm
20:24:47 <Spaceshot_> extra hours is the GM gets job roll IIRC
20:26:59 <Spaceshot_> GM # for pfs is just my PFS number right?
20:28:02 <Avatar> yeah
20:28:17 <Spaceshot_> and where is the additional mission thingy?
20:28:56 <Avatar> secondary success conditions?
20:29:57 <Spaceshot_> yea that
20:30:08 <Avatar> http://paizo.com/products/btpy928k/discuss?Pathfinder-Society-Secondary-Success-Conditions-Document
20:30:21 <Spaceshot_> cool, and do I need to print out and cut out the faction handouts?
20:30:57 <Philderbeast> you dont need to
20:31:02 <Philderbeast> but your players might like the,
20:31:40 <Spaceshot_> yea I guess
20:34:35 <Philderbeast> if you can print them out and take them, if not donw worry about it
20:36:16 <Avatar> I have fucked that up in both the games I ran
20:36:33 <Avatar> the first time I just didn't think it was necessary but during the game I realised they probably contained useful information to the mission
20:36:41 <Avatar> so I just read it out to anyone who was in those factions
20:37:03 <Avatar> for library of the lion I just outright forgot to bring them in and the table said ehh it's ok
20:37:14 <Avatar> but other GMs have done it for me and it is better to bring them
20:37:23 <Steven> i ran library of the lion yesterday
20:37:29 <Theta> Aww, They took down the Serpent's Skull game for tomorrow
20:37:37 <Steven> was fun... except the summoner.
20:38:03 <Steven> his character did absolutely nothing except tell his eidolon to do things.
20:38:28 <Steven> "Search the room!" "Read this book!"
20:38:57 <Steven> best part was he described his eidolon as a cat
20:39:22 <Avatar> I wish summoners didn't exist
20:39:26 <Avatar> they cause nothing...but...disaster
20:39:32 <Steven> and then was like, i tell my eidolon to pick the lock on this door.
20:39:56 <Steven> and i was like your eidolon replies to you in whatever language you both speak, he doesn't have hands.
20:40:45 <Steven> "I know Steve. He has claws."
20:41:13 <Steven> so i was like, so you want your eidolon to pick a lock with his claws
20:41:18 <Steven> sure... sounds like a penalty to me.
20:41:33 <Avatar> hahaha
20:41:43 <Steven> "No, theres no penalty, he has ranks in it!"
20:42:50 <Avatar> snap his claw in the lock
20:42:53 <Steven> indeeed.
20:43:04 <Steven> Sorry man, you described your eidolon as a cat, cats have no hands. Penalty while using disable device with no hands at my table.
20:43:11 <Avatar> "it fails to open the lock... and now no longer has a claw"
20:43:47 <Steven> "That's just dumb!"
20:43:58 <Avatar> haha
20:44:16 <Avatar> americans are funny
20:44:17 <Steven> so is a cat trying to lockpick.
20:44:29 <Steven> actually i think the guy is canadian.
20:44:39 <Avatar> can never tell the difference !
20:45:58 <Steven> i just love the people who use the argument of 'there is nothing that says i cant do it' at my tables.
20:47:33 <Spaceshot_> if it says "rewards" in the scenario sheets, does that mean you add that to the final at the end, or just deduct the final for ones they didn't get?
20:48:20 <Avatar> deduct what they didn't get
20:48:28 <Avatar> you generally don't look at that unless they fail the scenario
20:48:29 <Spaceshot_> mmk
20:48:32 <Spaceshot_> ahh
20:48:37 <Avatar> like if they have to retreat from the mission
20:48:54 <Avatar> in which case they only get loot for what they completed
20:49:01 <Spaceshot_> mmk
20:49:06 <Steven> kinda sad i dont get to apply credit for bonekeep 3 to my necromancer.
20:49:07 <Avatar> I think in season 5 they do it in reverse
20:49:18 <Avatar> "deduct xxx gp if the PCs fail this encounter"
20:49:26 <Spaceshot_> and I should print 7 copies of the chronicle sheet?
20:49:35 <Spaceshot_> 1 for me and 6 for the possible 6 players
20:49:44 <Avatar> yeah
20:54:55 <Spaceshot_> so prestige is now, 1 for finishing the scenario and +1 for secondary condition?
20:59:47 <Avatar> for seasons 1-4, yeah
21:00:21 <Avatar> 0-4 even
21:00:42 <Avatar> in season 5 you need to just basically do a good job of what you do
21:00:49 <Avatar> rather than just do the bare minimum that's asked of you
21:18:02 <Spaceshot_> I see
21:22:03 <Steven> yup pathfinders gotta start acting like pathfinders instead of murder hobos
21:23:16 <Spaceshot_> how many paths have been found?
21:24:20 <Spaceshot_> also, does the GM credit get max PP even if the secondary success was not met?
21:27:15 <Steven> yup, gms get anything they want.
21:27:28 <Spaceshot_> except they have to stick to the same tier
21:33:11 <profit> hello
21:33:44 <Damalon01> hi
21:35:50 <Steven> it is supposed to make GMs impartial to the success of the mission
21:38:41 <Avatar> GMs get credit for their character's tier regardless of what the players played
21:53:22 <Spaceshot_> wait what?
21:53:35 <Spaceshot_> so if my character is 4-5, and they play 1-2, I still get 4-5?
21:54:44 <Avatar> yeah
21:54:48 <Spaceshot_> mmk, news to me
21:55:01 <Avatar> make sure you know how out of tier gold works too
21:57:11 <Avatar> out-of-subtier is what it's called, actually
21:57:52 <Spaceshot_> yea, you get half of the combined total gold of each tier
21:58:32 <Spaceshot_> so if you're lower being played up you don't get as much of an advantage as you did before
21:58:39 <Spaceshot_> but if you're higher playing low you get more gold than before
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22:32:53 <Avatar> should be able to run we be goblins tomorrow if some players are around
22:33:07 <Avatar> I won't schedule it for tomorrow, if no players are here, I'll make it next week
22:40:13 <Steven> oh mans... these two new scenarios
22:40:16 <Steven> pretty fuckin epic.
22:47:13 <Avatar> anyone knows roll20, is it generally better to have bigger grid squares to accommodate the tokens
22:47:33 <Avatar> I'm used to smaller squares for dots, but I'm finding the same thing on roll20 makes the tokens hard to make out
22:48:03 <Avatar> or does it not matter considering there's a zoom tool
22:50:27 <Mekkis> moin
22:50:59 <Damalon01> whats epic about em steven?
22:51:11 <Mekkis> they're scenarios he can play
22:53:01 <Steven> yup pretty much
22:53:02 <Mekkis> Brunius, you around
22:53:05 <Mekkis> or O`mally?
22:53:18 <Steven> and they look pretty awesome.
22:53:21 <Damalon01> hehehe
22:53:31 <Damalon01> what tier?
22:54:10 <Steven> 1-5 5-9
22:54:32 <Steven> there we go, beat banner saga.
22:55:35 <Mekkis> Steven, I've heard rumours of retiring Eot10, but the source is very suspicious, unreliable, and untrustworthy. Can you give me any insight?
22:56:25 <Steven> no
22:58:33 <Mekkis> elaborate
22:59:15 <Steven> i dont believe i need to
22:59:19 <Mekkis> is the VC just scaremongering
22:59:34 <Damalon01> I bought Banner Saga
22:59:39 <Damalon01> i like it so far
22:59:42 <Steven> pretty good game
22:59:45 <Damalon01> hard tho
22:59:59 <Steven> how far are you?
23:00:27 <Steven> and yeah, some of the stuff that happens is pretty damned hard
23:00:34 <Damalon01> not that Far steven, im with Rook at the moment and they just crrossed the wastses
23:00:48 <Steven> kick ass
23:01:08 <Damalon01> i think they are about to go to Grofflheim or whatever its called, the Varl Capital
23:01:35 <Damalon01> the game makes me wanna play an Ulfen \
23:02:52 <Steven> it really does
23:02:55 <Steven> i built one. lol
23:03:09 <Steven> also, the spell BURST WITH LIGHT is pretty bad ass
23:03:47 <Damalon01> lol
23:04:24 <Steven> 4th level light spell.
23:04:44 <Steven> !spell burst with light
23:05:54 <Steven> BURST WITH LIGHT School evocation [light]; Level cleric 4, paladin 4 Casting Time 1 standard action Components V, s Range close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels) Target one creature Duration 1 round/4 levels Saving Throw see text; Spell Resistance yes The target becomes filled with intense magical light, taking 2d6 points of damage as the light burs
23:06:12 <Steven> bursts from its wounds and orifices (if the target is an undead creature, it instead takes 2d8 points of damage). In addition, the creature radiates bright light in a 30-foot
23:06:24 <Steven> radius and increases the light level by one step for an additional 30 feet beyond that area-darkness becomes dim light, dim light becomes normal light, and normal light becomes bright light. Creatures that take penalties in bright light take them while within the 30-foot radius of this magical light. A successful Will save halve
23:07:07 <Steven> blah blah blah
23:08:23 <Spaceshot_> whelp, time to find, and then go through my miniatures to find what I need
23:08:29 <Spaceshot_> probably gonna do it tomorrow sometime
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