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05:36 <Steven> sup....
05:38 <Steven> im back.
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22:34 <SpeEn> yoyo
22:39 <SpeEn> Steven, you here?
22:39 <Yiroep> Sup?
22:48 <SpeEn> Yo Yiroep!
22:52 <SpeEn> Got a reply from Mike
22:55 <Yiroep> Nice!
23:12 <Yiroep> Spill the beans, lol.
24:05 <SpeEn> He just sent me some information about getting involved
24:10 <Yiroep> Ah, O.K.
24:21 <SpeEn> along with a VC interview form
24:55 <Yiroep> I half-expected that, hehe.
24:55 <SpeEn> But he said he was very interested in finding VC/VLs in Norway
25:06 <Yiroep> And I fully expected that.
25:22 <Yiroep> He gave you some good info at least, huh?
25:28 <SpeEn> Yup!
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27:31 <Wrothmonk_> hrm...
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28:31 <Wrothmonk> Are we settled yet?
30:31 <SpeEn> Who's run rise of the runelords here?
34:59 <SpeEn> *taps his finger impatiently*
39:45 <Yiroep> I've played half of book 2 before the campaign fell apart...
39:50 <Yiroep> Heh.
40:01 <SpeEn> Why did it fall apart?
40:19 <Yiroep> It wasn't the greatest of games. Most of the people just wanted to talk. They weren't that "into it."
40:48 <SpeEn> Ok, what did you think of the adventure up until then?
40:55 <Yiroep> Wasn't the best GM either, really. He allowed too many things that were broken and disallowed other things for apparently no reason.
41:14 <SpeEn> ok
41:17 <Yiroep> Uh...
41:49 <Yiroep> I had fun with it. I probably would have had more fun and valuable input if I had played it with a different party, and if I had been more familiar with Golarion lore at the time. :p
42:01 <Yiroep> Starting in book 2 probably wasn't for the best, either.
42:11 <SpeEn> I see
42:27 <Yiroep> Our actual playing was more about our characters interacting, which was fun, but not really related to the adventure path. :p
43:10 <SpeEn> =)
43:20 <SpeEn> But what do you think works best when it comes to maps?
43:30 <SpeEn> Just drawing up on some gaming paper?
43:49 <SpeEn> or using map folios?
44:52 <Yiroep> I personally like just drawing out the maps. I like the flip mats as well if they're in there, because I end up reusing them for PFS scenarios anyway.
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45:13 <Yiroep> I just use the Chessex wet erase stuff.
45:20 <SpeEn> ok
45:49 <Yiroep> I'm actually printing out the map for "The Green Market" since I love the scenario, it's only on one map, and this is my 3rd time GMing it, lol.
46:11 <Yiroep> Might as well instead of redrawing it every time. But I usually just stick to wet erase stuff.
46:26 <Yiroep> You'll get a ton of different opinions on this topic, though.
46:37 <SpeEn> How do you usually print?
46:54 <Yiroep> It's my first time, actually. I'm going to go to a store to have them do it.
47:01 <SpeEn> Ok
47:01 <Yiroep> Bring the image with me.
47:12 <SpeEn> I printed the beginner box map
47:25 <Yiroep> We have a plotter at work but it's black and white only.
47:28 <Yiroep> I'd rather have color.
47:36 <SpeEn> scaled it in photoshop
47:38 <SpeEn> saved to pdf
47:44 <SpeEn> then tiled the pdf to A3
48:02 <SpeEn> so it was 9 A3 sheets
48:05 <SpeEn> ....
48:25 <Yiroep> Heh.
49:08 <Yiroep> I've had a GM build 3D terrain for a scenario he REALLY liked.
49:19 <Yiroep> I'm not sure I'd ever go through that much effort, LOL.
52:05 <SpeEn> hehe
52:07 <SpeEn> I saw one map
52:10 <SpeEn> that was 3d
52:13 <SpeEn> that was insane
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14:06 <SpeEn> Gah
14:36 <SpeEn> Tried exporting a map from pdf to tiff
14:54 <SpeEn> filesize 900 mb after scaling
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59:47 <Mort-> Hi what's SS
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03:41 <Damalon01> yo
20:26 <Mekkis> yo
21:22 <Damalon01> I think the end times have come, hell has invaded
24:20 <Brunius> tell that to north america
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28:55 <Damalon01> oh theres cold parts of hell too, whats the name of the 8th layer gain? 
30:43 <Mekkis> important question: Does Arcanacon have aircon?
30:55 <Damalon01> im not sure Mekkis
31:35 <Damalon01> especially since the venue is different this year, i think the old venu had fans but didnt let us use them. not sure about this years venue.
32:19 <Mekkis> it's the same venue as conquest and unicon
33:28 <Brunius> Friend that attends MHS just said no aircon
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35:06 <Damalon01> damn
36:47 <Mekkis> what's the humidity levels like down there?
08:13 <Damalon01> Man I wanna go to Arcanacon to play but I dont want to die in the heat! DO NOT WANT!
14:48 <Theta> I know PFS has pregenerated characters that can be used in a game. Where do you find them, and how would they be uploaded to be used in one of the games.
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27:44 <downerbeautiful> My cleric unarmed strikes better than your cleric, Jeyal. 
27:57 <Jeyal> That is probably true.
28:07 <Jeyal> Mine just looks better doing it,.
28:20 <downerbeautiful> Also, I heal better than yours does.
28:47 <Jeyal> My healing is more....proactive.  Kills more.
29:07 <Jeyal> Dead things can't hurt anything.  Unless they're undead.
29:14 <Jeyal> Then, I leave it to you.
29:17 <downerbeautiful> Not true, they can fall on your.  Or explode. 
29:23 <downerbeautiful> *you.
30:12 <downerbeautiful> Let's math out some average die rolls.
30:33 <Jeyal> Actually, if I prepare Cure Moderate, I believe I heal better than you, too.  I mean, I would NEVER, but I could.
32:53 <downerbeautiful> I have more feats. 
35:48 <downerbeautiful> Also, my saves are better. 
36:10 <Jeyal> How many level 2 spells can you cast?
36:27 <downerbeautiful> No second level spells, but I save at 8-5-8
36:40 <downerbeautiful> And evasion, MF Kip
36:48 <Jeyal> 5-3-8 isn't much less.  
37:48 <downerbeautiful> Tanagaar's darkness brings the light, woo.
38:13 <Jeyal> isn't Tangaar just another name for Sivanah?
38:28 <downerbeautiful> We're doing this to give your voice reprieve, totally.
38:49 <Jeyal> I'm convinced every god is just another of Sivanah's illusions.
38:51 <downerbeautiful> No, Tanagaar is not another name for Sivanah, unless Sivanah is a dark owl who flies the night sky. 
40:01 <downerbeautiful> You're wrong.  Sivanah could never be as graceful as an Empyreal Lord.  Nor as holy and dignified.  True Neutral?  More like Chaotic Evil!
40:13 <downerbeautiful> There's no difference if you're not LG
40:19 <downerbeautiful> which is not Living Grayhawk
40:21 <Jeyal> More balanced than any monk.
41:10 <Jeyal> She can be whatever she wants.  Whenever he wants. Wherever it wants.
41:10 <downerbeautiful> Maybe <<redacted>> could show up as a deaf/blind/mute on Friday?  That'd be an illusion!
41:38 <downerbeautiful> Then how are all your heals, mwahaha!
41:42 <downerbeautiful> I'm 6.
41:52 <downerbeautiful> Silent spell that.
47:01 <Jeyal> ((Did it work?))
47:54 <downerbeautiful> No, I don't feel better.  Or holier.  Maybe that's because you're casting spells from a Neutral deity.
48:25 <Jeyal> I never understood the idea that evil was unholy.  Strange Empyreals.   
48:53 <Jeyal> It's a tool.  Like anything else.
49:05 <downerbeautiful> Not strange, righteous, full of valor.  Something someone who worships anyone who isn't LG wouldn't understand. 
49:40 <Jeyal> Spoken like a true zealot.  Can never understand that the other side is no less zealous.
50:30 <downerbeautiful> You work for someone Neutral.  You have no zeal.
50:35 <Jeyal> Just because Cayden Caylien, Iomedae, Asmodeus, and Lamashtu don't get along, doesn't mean I can't use all of their power to further my own cause.
50:52 <downerbeautiful> Who are those filthy imposters?
51:53 <Jeyal> Name a deity worth following and I can show you ten more.
52:10 <Jeyal> And can <i>be</i> all eleven.
53:23 <downerbeautiful> Empyreal Lords.
53:28 <downerbeautiful> And only the LG ones
54:12 <downerbeautiful> Moreover, you could never be any of them as posing as one is a lie, and that defiles LG.
54:27 <downerbeautiful> You'd be a heretic, a blasphemer, and that's not tolerated. 
00:42 <Jeyal> Lies are merely tools.  Like a scythe or a sword or a chisel or a thumbscrew.
01:45 <Jeyal> I feel sorry for you.  Your  god is a limit.
02:56 <Jeyal> Mine poses none.  And has none.  And expects none.
03:40 <downerbeautiful> Because your false deity has no focus or order.
05:02 <Jeyal> The focus is remaining outside of focus.  The order is remaining unorderable.  It is surpassing race and gender and age and being.  It is being truly limitless.
05:13 <Jeyal> I am all.
06:46 <downerbeautiful> You're nothing; you're just a human. 
13:57 <Mekkis> wtf
14:21 <Brunius> I thought you might say that
14:45 <Mekkis> I need to buy more proxies
15:10 <downerbeautiful> Sorry, we're being in earnest about our characters.  Also, his voice is out.
16:12 <Mekkis> piety is one thing. Being able to bend reality is another.
16:59 <downerbeautiful> Oh, his illusionist is ... all about illusions.  She worships Sivanah, who is some obscure, true N, goddess of illusions. 
17:16 <downerbeautiful> In nothingness there is everything, or something like that.  
17:44 <Mekkis> only a fool would believe that an illusionist's only options are illusionary
18:26 <downerbeautiful> Considering she's a cleric and her options for illusions are at best, limited, she just hopes that no one sees through her disguises.  That's about the extent of her illusions.  
19:04 <downerbeautiful> She's otherwise a mid-line cleric.  Can do some buffs, generally goes for the semi-front line. 
20:11 <downerbeautiful> My character, however, is nothing but a stack of GM credit.  I don't know what she's doing, but she was played once at level 2/3, so he's stuck with monk/cleric.  No personality.
22:20 <downerbeautiful> I think I'm trying to develop personality; being a zealot doesn't work. 
22:26 <downerbeautiful> I don't think monks are zealots. 
22:35 <Jeyal> Also, hello.  Bystanders.
23:01 <Jeyal> And being a cleric is only as limited as your god allows.
24:07 <Mekkis> less so, actually
24:26 <downerbeautiful> How so is that?
24:40 <Mekkis> clerics still have free will
24:57 <Jeyal> Just some have freer will than others.
25:37 <downerbeautiful> Isn't that more contingent on class than deity?
26:02 <downerbeautiful> Or, we all have the same amount of free will, but limiting it is a personal choice. 
29:02 <Jeyal> I find it hard to accept that Phrasma would allow necromancy or Calistria forgiveness or Norgorber uprightness.
29:25 <Jeyal> Every other deity views empowerment as debt.
29:50 <Jeyal> Mine would never inflict a code on anyone.  It empowers those who seek to surpass.
30:00 <downerbeautiful> Then I'd "find it hard to accept that" Sivanah allows reality. 
30:16 <downerbeautiful> Or is complacent with it. 
30:29 <Jeyal> Reality is its own limit.  And she is hardly complacent with it.
32:30 <Jeyal> He seeks to reshape.  To repurpose.  To see reality as it suits her.  As perfect.  And soon thereafter, as another benchmark to improve upon.
32:54 <downerbeautiful> That doesn't make sense.  Try using complete sentences. 
34:20 <Mekkis> As much as you believe in dogma, the elk in the corner believes that community is also required.
35:10 <Mekkis> So please. Quit your bitchin, get back in the kitchen.
35:29 <Jeyal> You see your god as perfect.  Absolute. 
35:44 <Mekkis> no, I don't.
35:45 <Jeyal> You see reality as stoic, unchanging.
35:58 <Mekkis> No, it isn't
36:13 <Mekkis> Last I checked, the material plane was morphic
36:21 <downerbeautiful> Wait, isn't one of these people in character?
36:35 <Jeyal> The Seventh Veil bends reality to it's own will.
36:39 <Jeyal> And I to mine.
37:27 <Mekkis> Anyone with power and will can do that
37:44 <Jeyal> Absolutely.  My will is just freer than most.
38:01 <Jeyal> Will is power.
40:36 <Mekkis> will might be, But there are other forms of power.
42:00 <Jeyal> True.  But each is weak without will.
43:01 <Jeyal> Will surpasses boundaries, where other forms of power set them.
45:25 <Jeyal> <<Man, this is making my character sounds kind of douchebaggy.>>
47:07 <downerbeautiful> Yes, and hasn't been once demonstrated when you play her.  Maybe she's not so tied to her faith either, and you just picked her out so that you could get into a prestige class because you'll never be as good as Donglin. 
47:25 <Jeyal> Her faith is not being tied to anything.
47:47 <Mekkis> She should still get back in the kitchen, as Erastil commands. Doing her part for the family.
48:04 <Mekkis> (it's not my fault Erastil is a misogynist)
48:21 <Jeyal> What is a gender?
48:41 <Mekkis> my agenda is to bring solidarity to the Society
48:48 <Jeyal> I'm pretty sure she's been male at least half of the time.
49:15 <downerbeautiful> Oh man, if women were in the kitchen, and men in the fields as Erastil commands, we'd totally not be having this argument. 
51:18 <Jeyal> Solidarity is only as necessary as the need for solidarity.
51:38 <Jeyal> If you have it, you no longer need it, which makes it unimportant, until it is gone.
52:39 <Mekkis> Very philosophical. But very incorrect.
53:17 <Jeyal> Much like my role in adventuring.  An injured man needs no healing.
54:25 <Jeyal> *uninjured
55:11 <Mekkis> The need for solidarity is not an ailment that can be cured
55:55 <Jeyal> Absolutely not.  It is an addiction that can be sated.
57:01 <Mekkis> Just like the need for food or water. And Erastil provides.
57:23 <Jeyal> I do love me some food or water.  Sometimes.  When I'm hungry.  
57:38 <Jeyal> Or thirsty.  But otherwise, never.
57:40 <downerbeautiful> No, it's not an addiction.  It's part of being a social person.   All people are social, except for those who aren't.  Those who aren't get labeled as a menace and either become heavily medicated or removed from society.  Moreover, the need for people cannot be sated. 
58:19 <Jeyal> The need for people can be satisfied by being people.  Why be one?
59:21 <downerbeautiful> Because PFS requires it. 
59:22 <Jeyal> (too bad PFS disallows cloning and simulacra)
00:00 <diebot> There is no 'need for people', unless you are one of the sheep. It is law that allows one to progress.
00:47 <Jeyal> Law is a tool.  It's very useful.  It keeps the chaos in balance.
00:51 <downerbeautiful> Progress and law are created by people, so without people, there is no law.
01:11 <downerbeautiful> "Law is a tool. It's very useful. It keeps the chaos in balance."  Alright, Shepard. 
01:23 <downerbeautiful> Or Harbinger, or whomever. 
01:35 <Jeyal> The best sheperds have no fences.
01:53 <diebot> Law is absolute. It has predated people, and will endure once all of you insignificant mortals are dust.
02:22 <downerbeautiful> Correct, fences are in a different game. 
02:38 <downerbeautiful> But, people must discover law in order to understand it and progress.
02:45 <downerbeautiful> Knowledge is best in forum.
03:43 <Jeyal> Knowledge is another tool.  
04:09 <downerbeautiful> How far would you get with no thought, no knowledge.  It isn't a tool, it's necessary. 
04:23 <downerbeautiful> Without knowledge, you are nothing. 
04:33 <downerbeautiful> As in, you do not exist. 
04:33 <Jeyal> How would you know?
05:10 <downerbeautiful> Because no one could know you, you would be non-existent.
05:27 <Jeyal> By his argument, no one could know me if there were no people.
08:09 <Jeyal> I reject the idea that people have roles.  I reject the idea that the only ideal is knowledge.
08:37 <diebot> Then your role is to serve.
08:40 <Jeyal> I affirm that those who wish to be anything may.
08:50 <Jeyal> I am.
09:27 <downerbeautiful> Language and knowledge are synonymous.  Without language, we have no form of communication; without the ability to communicate, we are nothing.  
09:48 <Mekkis> One can communicate without language
09:55 <downerbeautiful> Not possible
10:00 <downerbeautiful> Even bees have language.
10:21 * diebot communicates her desire to see you burn. With a fireball.
10:23 <Jeyal> Language and communication may be synonymous but language and knowledge are not.
11:30 <downerbeautiful> You cannot have thought without the ability to articulate it.  That ability comes from language. 
12:15 <Jeyal> So language is necessary, a precursor.  A building block.
12:48 <downerbeautiful> It is everything.  It is more than your god, for she cannot exist without it. 
12:53 <Jeyal> A necessary condition, but not a sufficient one.  
13:06 <Jeyal> Without application of knowledge, it has no worth.
14:00 <diebot> But there are many who have no worth.
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14:40 <downerbeautiful> How is their worth relevant?
15:04 <Jeyal> What can it be used for?
15:20 <Jeyal> That is the true test of what knowledge or law or evil or anything is worth.
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15:59 <Jeyal> What can one DO with it?
16:24 <jward91> hey
16:33 <Jeyal> Hello!
16:44 <jward91> hows it going?
17:15 <Jeyal> Not too bad.  Having an in-character philosophical discussion.  Maybe three clerics is a lot.
17:27 <jward91> i would assume it is
17:31 <jward91> why not go a pally?
17:36 <Mekkis> Only three?
17:38 <downerbeautiful> Well, maybe I should retrain to monk, then.  
17:46 <downerbeautiful> Oh gods no, not three paladins?!
17:56 <Jeyal> Paladin?  And be quenched by some silly code?
18:19 <Jeyal> And be held to someone else's ideal?
18:25 <downerbeautiful> *headdesk*
18:27 <diebot> The code exists for a reason. Those who have the wits can decipher its truth.
19:18 <jward91> the code is life
19:21 <jward91> the code is order
19:22 <downerbeautiful> Like those who write sonnets, villanelles, sestinas, et al, many find unparalleled liberation in constraint. 
19:33 <jward91> those who do not follow the code must be shown the truth of the code
19:53 <Mekkis> The code is purpose itself
19:58 <Jeyal> The code is chains.  The code is shackles.  Shackles and chains are sometimes useful.
20:04 <jward91> the code is freedom
20:13 <jward91> how else are we to know what we can and cannot do
20:24 <diebot> The code exists for one to find holes, and drive a Tarrasque through them.
20:28 <jward91> the code is guidence
20:29 <Jeyal> There is nothing we cannot do.
20:32 <jward91> the code is comfort
21:08 <Jeyal> Tarrasques are sometimes useful.
22:42 <downerbeautiful> Tear-A-Skeighs are super useful... Codes keep less than righteous people from acting in their own self-interests.  They are vital. 
23:26 <Jeyal> What I find funny is that antipaladins and anti-antipaladins share the same code.  And each see the other as an affront.
23:52 <jward91> don't get me started on anti-anti-antipalidans
23:59 <jward91> their code is just messed
24:00 <diebot> If you truly believe that, why is it the most pious who are bound by one?
24:35 <Mekkis> The code is a promise that the paladin makes towards one's god. 
24:46 <Jeyal> My god expects no promises.
25:12 <Jeyal> The most pious are easily fooled?
26:24 <jward91> The most pious find the most comfort in their code
27:04 <Jeyal> And the most affront in anyone else's.
27:21 <downerbeautiful> The most pious may also be the most ruthless without constraint. 
27:57 <Mekkis> But their code might prevent them.
28:17 <Jeyal> Or force them to.
28:35 <downerbeautiful> Prevent them from outright killing people?  Or from accepting others' interpretations of reality?
28:56 <jward91> is reality fluid is the real question?
28:59 <diebot> A paladin isn't prevented from killing. A pity, really.
29:16 <jward91> what if there is only one truth and everyone else doesn't realise it save for the pally'-
29:21 <Jeyal> Reality is shapeable. 
29:28 <Jeyal> And transient.
29:46 <jward91> that's a truth, but is it THE truth
29:55 <Jeyal> It doesn't need to be.
30:08 <Jeyal> It CAN be.
30:09 <jward91> what if there where a truth
30:28 <jward91> what if everything you have been told about a transient morality scale is a lie
30:36 <jward91> what if the pallys had it right all along
30:48 <jward91> there is no grey
30:53 <jward91> just good and evil
31:07 <Jeyal> Good and evil are both useful.
31:08 <downerbeautiful> "Man" - 5 says, "<<redacted>> is so getting Darkness cast on her in a couple days."  Her crazy ideas of truth are going to get her killed. 
31:57 <downerbeautiful> Evil is only useful insofar as it allows the most overtly violent, yet holy, to direct their aggression onto a target. 
32:26 <jward91> can you be holy and evil?
32:30 <downerbeautiful> Yes
32:38 <downerbeautiful> er, wait, 
32:49 <downerbeautiful> -5 says no, they can't be.
33:02 <Jeyal> Is devotion to destruction evil in the eyes of Rovagug?
33:38 <downerbeautiful> Our language has a natural bias toward doing what is "good," whatever is best for society. 
35:05 <Jeyal> Isn't every child turned into an attic whisperer a grand celebration for Urgathoa?
35:46 <downerbeautiful> Why did Gant kill Tolo, then?
35:53 <Jeyal> Tolo tried to kill Gant.
36:06 <jward91> what if LG is the only good?
36:14 <Jeyal> Then it needs evil/.
36:32 <jward91> even though you get favour from your CE diety, you're still evil and unholy
36:43 <jward91> Good does not need evil to be good
36:50 <jward91> but evil needs good to be evil
37:21 <Jeyal> Hardly.
37:30 <jward91> just like darkness is the absence of light, evil is the absence of good
38:01 <Jeyal> Then chaos must be the absence of law.
38:12 <Jeyal> Er, the other way around.  
38:25 <jward91> no, chaos IS the absence of law
38:33 <Jeyal> Because natural state is entropy.
38:34 <jward91> with out law, there will be chaos
39:23 <Jeyal> Because chaos is the natural state.
40:52 <diebot> Good is nothing but a public-relations term.
41:18 <Jeyal> If murder is always evil, how can you kill a murderer?
41:33 <Jeyal> It'd be evil to defend yourself.
42:21 <Jeyal> Sometimes, evil is a nice tool.  The good use it all the time.
42:38 <jward91> should we kill murderers?
42:38 <diebot> The lawful definition of murder is: To pre-meditatively kill another person, under circumstances where it would not be excused by law. Execution is excusable by law.
43:24 <Jeyal> So if you can prove your innocence you are not a murderer.
43:48 <Mekkis> I believe that Erastil believes in Innocent until proven guilty
43:55 <Mekkis> I'm not sure about Asmodeus.
43:57 <Jeyal> Regardless of whether or not you kill anyone.
44:02 <jward91> but what if they are evil and they must be purged?
44:10 <diebot> Perhaps I should get Defunct to ask him.
44:29 <Jeyal> Isn't Asmodeus the most perfect lawful being?
45:59 <jward91> Asmodeus is LE isn't he?
46:11 <Jeyal> Absolute law, with no compunctions about caring for good.
46:16 <Jeyal> Apparrently that makes him evil.
46:19 <jward91> would that not be LN?
47:56 <Jeyal> Hardly.  Abadar cares for profit.
48:07 <Jeyal> Asmodeus doesn't care.
48:14 <Jeyal> There is only law.
48:19 <jward91> true enough
49:34 <Jeyal> I always hate when I find myself admiring Asmodeus.
52:21 <Mekkis> Abadar is perfectly lawful
52:35 <Mekkis> Asmodeus will twist the law to his benefit
52:49 <Jeyal> Asmodeus is a better lawyer.
53:14 <Jeyal> He would fleece Abadar any day of the week.
54:25 <Jeyal> And he's done more to fight chaos than any other lawful deity.
54:34 <Jeyal> RE: Battle against Rovagug.
08:33 <Jeyal> Aww.  That stopped the conversation.
08:46 <Jeyal> Ah well.  
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10:09 <Jeyal> Well, anyways, who was actually planning on playing Storming the Diamond Gate?
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12:08 <Damalon01> you might be slightly biased in your opinion of Asmodeus there. If he was that far ahead of Abadar and the other lawfwuwwl dieties im sure he would have bought reality by now.
12:32 <Damalon01> Also im planning on playiing Storming the Diamond Gate
13:44 <Mekkis> reality is not property
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14:05 <Damalon01> to the gods it is :P
14:15 <Jeyal> And I think he owns a good deal of it anyway.  More people than real eastate, though,.
14:59 <Jeyal> What would you be playing?
15:40 <Avatar> yo
15:52 <Jeyal> Hello.
16:07 <Damalon01> Asmodeus is too well known to be effective, everyone knows not to take his deals so its hard for him to get that much of an upper hand.
16:12 <Avatar> looks like friday is going to be low tier 
16:33 <Jeyal> Barring a bunch of pregen switching.
16:47 <Damalon01> ill probably be playing my Sorcerer for Storming the Diamond Gate since it looks like we are playing low
16:49 <downerbeautiful> Yeah, probably.  There's no way I can push my only non-pregen 1-9 character up to a level 7 between now and Friday. 
17:23 <Avatar> what's your highest level character downer
17:32 <downerbeautiful> 12
17:40 <Avatar> er, sorry, between levels 3-7
17:53 <Avatar> 4?
17:58 <downerbeautiful> followed by 9 followed by GM credit babies of 4 and piles
18:01 <Jeyal> Mine are similar.  12, 12, 9, 4.
18:13 <Avatar> nice
18:30 <Avatar> not sure if phil would appreciate playing up with his level 3 guy
18:59 <Damalon01> i think low is fine
19:08 <downerbeautiful> He probably wouldn't like being 6/7 with a level 3.  When I ran it, there was one level 3 in the high tier.  I felt bad for him. 
19:26 <Jeyal> In tier for each of us sounds okay.
19:38 <Jeyal> 3-4-4-4-X?
20:53 <Avatar> yeah
21:02 <Avatar> FDC is obviously going for a pregen too
21:15 <Avatar> he's never been in, so he may not show
21:47 <Damalon01> 4 players is fine tho right?
22:03 <Philderbeast> i have played up, but my 3 will be a little squishy for that :(
22:45 <Damalon01> Philder with 4 players playing lvl 3-4 i dont see a reason to play up
22:59 <Avatar> yeah 4 is fine
23:18 <downerbeautiful> Sweet - playing in-tier is best playing. 
23:29 <Jeyal> I don't mind tables of four.  They go quickly.
24:03 <downerbeautiful> There's time for two more, though
24:05 <Jeyal> Our compisition is what?  Sorcerer, Cleric, Cleric/Monk, what?
24:46 <Damalon01> hey Avatar, youre using rolld20 right? have you considered sending out a link to the game to us so we can enter the wgame and set up macros for our characters early?
24:58 <Avatar> is that possible
25:06 <Damalon01> yes\
25:22 <Jeyal> You can create it at any time.
25:25 <Damalon01> you can send a copy of the link via email etc
25:39 <Avatar> alright I'll look into it later
25:53 <Avatar> I still want to buy a month or year and get dynamic lighting working
26:17 <Jeyal> Gotcha.
27:14 <Damalon01> also do you want us to use our own character pic as a token?
27:22 <downerbeautiful> Dynamic lighting looks pretty cool, and their advanced features look nifty.
29:18 <Jeyal> For the record:  Level 4 Cleric of Sivanah.  Negative Channeller, lots of buff spells.
29:43 <Jeyal> Channel Smite is my primary mode of attack.
31:03 <Jeyal> Small splash of illusion magic- -Disguise Self, Invisibility, Silence and the like.
32:48 <downerbeautiful> I'm a stack of GM credit - I have no identity or purpose in life. 
33:22 <Jeyal> Okay, not great skills...Disguise, Bluff, Heal, a couple of Knowledges, Perception, Sense Motive
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52:40 <Jeyal> Well, have a nice night, guys.  See you Friday-ish.
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58:54 <Avatar> use whatever you like for tokens
59:10 <Avatar> I think you have to send me your token if you want your own?
04:25 <Steven> sup
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09:47 <Steven> mmmmm yeah.
09:57 <Steven> i feel better.
11:55 <Damalon01> cooking dinner in a heat wave is always fun
12:20 <Steven> have a sandwich
12:35 <Damalon01> didnt have the mats
12:51 <Steven> well you should have thought of that before dinnertime
12:58 <Damalon01> lols
14:09 <Steven> i really think i am over this bronchitis, i should be back to normal by tomorrow or maybe the next day.
15:40 <Steven> the antibiotics the doc gave me really are bad ass.
17:17 <Damalon01> ill send you a pic to use for my sorcerer as a token vis Skype Avatar
17:53 <Damalon01> also if you wanna see the sheet its up on your site
28:30 <Damalon01> you there Avatar?
31:47 <Steven> i think he is watching prawn
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37:50 <Steven> hey new person, you can change your nick with /nick whatever
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07:05 <Avatar> the site is actually Ballig's
08:20 <Brunius> Ballig is pro8a8ly just a mythical figure at this point
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31:14 <Mekkis> probably, Brunius 
31:45 <Mekkis> he disappears while I'm in the same territory as him
32:05 <Mekkis> Brunius, what do you think about WotW on the 27th?
32:31 <Brunius> Haven't I 8een instructed to play a special on that day?
36:50 <Avatar> I am pretty sure that special won't happen with how many people have signed up
38:15 <Mekkis> insider knowledge says otherwise
38:44 <Avatar> what have you heard
39:14 <Mekkis> three tables minimum is required
40:26 <Avatar> okay 7 more people have signed up since last I checked
40:29 <Avatar> maybe it will happen
40:38 <Avatar> ohhh are you K S
40:53 <Avatar> I'm thinking who is this K S joker
41:21 <Damalon01> Avatar I know its not really your site, i meant your as in a collective 'your'
41:37 <Damalon01> since you are one of the Admins right?
41:51 <Avatar> I just ban people really
42:00 <Damalon01> that counts :P
42:05 <Avatar> yeah I guess so
42:05 <Brunius> it's true, that's his only function
42:32 <Damalon01> ok ill try sending you this pic again
42:37 <Damalon01> i dont think you got it
42:49 <Damalon01> pay attention to skype a moment please Avatar
42:59 <Avatar> I did get it
43:10 <Damalon01> ok cool nevermind then
43:16 <Avatar> I think
43:20 <Damalon01> ehehe
43:27 <Avatar> better to send me stuff over IRC if you can
43:31 <Avatar> I'll auto-receive
43:53 <Damalon01> i know how wto use skype a little better :P
43:55 <Avatar> as long as you're using a proper IRC client
44:09 <Avatar> you just drag the file onto my nickname on the right
44:19 <Avatar> it's easier than skype
44:42 <Damalon01> lol in skype you just drag it to the chat box and drop it
44:55 <Avatar> you have to open the chat box for that
45:12 <Damalon01> oh noes one more step! :P
45:32 <Avatar> one less step on IRC
45:40 <Damalon01> yup
45:44 <Damalon01> im mocking you
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48:13 <Avatar`> did you get all of that
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50:19 Avatar` is now known as Avatar
50:29 ChanOP gives channel operator status to Avatar
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59:00 <Steven1> sup
00:50 <Avatar> you missed everything
00:53 <Avatar> it seems
00:59 <Avatar> I can't tell when there's 2 of you here
03:08 <Damalon01> huh?
05:19 <Steven1> how i kill the other steven?
06:22 <Avatar> did you register it
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06:35 <Avatar> ok seeya
06:38 <Steven> ha! killed him
06:47 <Avatar> wb
06:53 <Steven> dunno how that happened.
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24:14 <Steven> hate this part of getting over bronchitis.... so totally not fun.
24:22 <Steven> so, whats everybody doin?
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25:21 <Mekkis> hot hot hot
25:41 <Avatar> yeah this is really quite ridiculous
25:58 <Avatar> I'm going to steven's place to shovel some snow
26:14 <Mekkis> get a cooler, Avatar 
26:14 <Steven> there is no snow right now, it all melted
26:29 <Mekkis> so you can bring it to arcanacon :S
26:31 <Avatar> yeah I might actually check kmart tonight
26:39 <Avatar> arcanacon will be fine
26:44 <Avatar> this weather won't last until next week
27:16 <Mekkis> better not
27:33 <Avatar> http://www.weather.com.au/vic/melbourne
27:50 <Damalon01> if you get a cooler then youd better bring enuff for everyone! :P
28:04 <Avatar> look if it actually is this hot at arcanacon I am not going
28:07 <Avatar> exp be damned
28:22 <Mekkis> hey, it's 31 here
28:27 <Mekkis> only 28 there
28:31 <Avatar> do you remember when tristen rode in
28:31 <Steven> its 1 here.
28:35 <Avatar> on that super hot summer day
28:37 <Avatar> that was hilarious
29:13 <Mekkis> Avatar, get ready for 44° tomorrow
30:06 <Mekkis> only Melbourne would have two consecutive days with no temperature overlap
33:03 <Steven> our hottest day in the next week is 8C
39:18 <Avatar> I might bring lunch in tomorrow
39:28 <Avatar> normally I would go a few blocks away to get some
39:31 <Avatar> but I don't fancy that
41:15 <Avatar> is there a problem with handouts in roll20
41:19 <Avatar> it doesn't seem to accept my upload
41:29 <Avatar> just stalls on 100%
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05:40 <Steven> it is a mystery avatar...
18:48 <Damalon01> i havent tried handout in rolld20 for awhilwew avatar, i can log in and give it a try if you like 
22:48 <Avatar> I'll just imgur it
39:21 <Damalon01> uploads are workin fine for me Avatar
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18:21 <ricin> Hi all, I have a new digital currency i have started, it is like bitcoin, I am going them free to those who sign up. http://ozcoin.tk/
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52:09 <Steven> sup
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