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00:46 <Mekkis> Did any of you get a christmas card from Paizo
00:51 <Mekkis> one arrived for me today
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10:58 <Steven> bored.
27:09 <Avatar> steven
27:14 <Avatar> wizard or arcanist?
27:41 <Steven> !rand wizard arcanist
27:42 <dicebot> Steven, random: arcanist
27:47 <Steven> looks like arcanist
28:35 <Avatar> no
28:44 <Avatar> dmamit
28:55 <Avatar> are you absolutely 50/50 on it
29:08 <Steven> just dont care bwahahahahahahah
29:14 <Avatar> fu
29:16 <Avatar> !
29:47 <Avatar> I have a commonsense test for GMs
30:05 <Steven> most people will fail it
30:27 <Avatar> yes most likely
30:50 <Avatar> I am banking on the premise that some won't
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42:16 <Steven> i hate deck and dice mechanics in rpg superstar events
42:57 <Steven> just did my first both items are equally bad/good off of a dice vs a deck mechanism
15:26 <s_gmusic> DM question: when running a table of at least 7 PCs that could easily roflstomp a subboss as-written, would it be better to strengthen the subboss or add more enemies?
16:25 <Brunius> I've heard that adding more enemies is far more overpowering than strengthening the boss
17:19 <Steven> at least 7?  who the hell would want to run a table that large?
17:35 <Brunius> I've run it, it's terrible
18:01 <Steven> i've done 7 player tables
18:07 <s_gmusic> it's slow, I know, but even society is default 6.
18:49 <Steven> they suck.
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26:28 <s_gmusic> was mainly wondering about whether to strengthen one or add more mobs because of a conversation I had before. 
27:27 <Steven> what kind of mobs?
27:51 <s_gmusic> tieflings
28:21 <Steven> what kind of tiefling... cause there are alchemists, clerics, fighters
29:04 <s_gmusic> think they were rogues. it was the base tiefling in Bestiary 1.
31:27 <s_gmusic> was talking with a couple other people who DM more often than I about how I gave the subboss another couple class levels so they'd have a bit more HP and spells to deal with the party of 7 players and 2 pets. they both said I should have instead added more enemies to fight
33:17 <Philderbeast> IMO i would have added more, if your compensating for more players your better off affing more opponants for action econemy then just making one larger boss, as they can still end up killing that in a round, or he may end up so strong they can never hit it to kill it
33:38 <Steven> what were ya playin?
33:53 <s_gmusic> wrath of the righteous.
34:26 <s_gmusic> book 1, tiefling witch 5 in the wizard's tower.
34:45 <s_gmusic> bumped him up to level 7
35:08 <Steven> you can up his wealth by scrolls
35:38 <Philderbeast> what was the APL?
36:10 <s_gmusic> seven level 3 characters with at least 2 pets
36:26 <Philderbeast> yea i definatly would not have made it that hard
36:50 <s_gmusic> they still roflstomped him. :|
37:01 <s_gmusic> and they're not min-maxers, either.
37:07 <Philderbeast> more minions to soak actions would have3 been better
37:22 <Steven> i like summoning extra creatures
37:32 <Philderbeast> that many players turns in to death by 100 cuts.
37:51 <Philderbeast> more minions and prehaps max hp for its level would have been my way of doing it
43:47 <s_gmusic> hm.... mmmk. That'll be something to think about before the next session
45:17 <Steven> throwing templates on a character also tend to be good
47:18 <s_gmusic> ok. I went with the 2 extra class levels because it already had 5 and the increase to 7 only added a few more spells. Running Wrath has been the most I've GM'ed something, so I'm trying to use it as practice before I GM more for PFS or start a straight homebrew.
49:53 <Avatar> s_gmusic: are you talking about a PFS scenario
50:19 <s_gmusic> Wrath of the Righteous Adventure path.
50:24 <Avatar> oh
50:40 <Avatar> not sure how much leeway there is to change around APs?
51:58 <s_gmusic> me neither, but as far as I know, there are no plans to ever sanction Wrath for society credit.
54:37 <Steven> as much or as little as a person wants.
54:50 <Avatar> there you go
55:03 <Avatar> couldn't you just rewrite the whole thing from scratch
55:56 <s_gmusic> but.... why?
55:58 <Steven> if you run a portion of the AP as a module for PFS you have to run as written
46:00 <Avatar> oh
46:02 <Avatar> you didn't mention that
52:58 <Steven> i dont mention a lot of things
53:07 <Steven> what didnt i mention this time?
53:33 <Avatar> you just said they can run it however they want
53:49 <Steven> yes, an AP can be run however a person wants
54:22 <Steven> but if you run a specific section of it as a module for pfs it has to be run as written
58:59 <Avatar> yeah you didn't say that the first time
59:05 <Avatar> lucky I questioned it !
59:15 <Avatar> with my outrageous scenario
01:25 <Steven> i said it the first time
02:02 <Steven> pretty sure i said it about 1 minute after i said the first part of it.
02:12 <Avatar> after I questioned it
02:31 <Steven> you're so cray cray
02:56 <Avatar> just tell me whether a wizard or an arcanist is better
03:09 <Steven> !rand wizard arcanist
03:09 <dicebot> Steven, random: arcanist
03:17 <Steven> arcanist!
03:17 <Avatar> goddamimit!
03:22 <Avatar> no rolling
03:23 <Steven> heh
07:50 <Steven> that was fantastic
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12:37 <Steven> had me a kick ass laugh
13:07 <Steven> so avatar......
13:17 <Steven> whatcha thinkin you gonna do?
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14:41 <Steven> i have a suggestion
15:09 <Brunius> I should make my gunslinger
15:13 <Brunius> wonder how long he's been a WIP
17:10 <Steven> !rand wizard arcanist
17:10 <dicebot> Steven, random: wizard
17:16 <Steven> wizard it up!
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35:52 <Avatar> I will probably lean towards the arcanist
35:56 <Avatar> but I have no idea how to build it
36:08 <Avatar> the perks from wizard aren't there and I don't think the arcanist ones make up for it
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37:33 <Steven> what you dont like wizard schools?
39:46 <Avatar> no I do like wizard schools
39:50 <Avatar> I had a good wizard set up already
39:55 <Avatar> but then they released the arcanist
40:06 <Avatar> I feel like I should give it a go but don't know if it's viable
46:24 <Steven> heh
59:22 <Avatar> I need to know fairly soon because I might need it at arcanacon
59:45 <Steven> well build the damned thing man.
59:52 <Avatar> I think it is built
01:03 <Avatar> hmm I left my notes at work
01:12 <Avatar> because that's where I've been creating pathfinder characters.
01:31 <Steven> pffft.... not even working.
01:44 <Avatar> I've been looking at the shaman more recently, surprisingly complex
02:03 <Avatar> I thought it was just like the oracle where you just pick a mystery/spirit
02:17 <Avatar> but it's not, with wandering hex and wandering spirit
02:52 <Avatar> basically it's like being an oracle where you can interchangably have all the spirits/hexes
07:03 <Steven> yup
08:53 <Steven> they are pretty awesome
18:20 <Avatar> awesome/complicated
18:39 <Avatar> instead of having to know one mystery inside out, you need to know all of them
19:31 <Steven> well only ones you want to play around with
20:19 <Steven> cant decide what to build with half elf
20:42 <Wrothmonk> Have you done something with the playtest classes?
21:23 <Steven> no... im not overly excited bout them.
22:38 <Wrothmonk> Seemed pretty interesting to me. Debating if I want to build an arcanist now or just wait until an actual game comes up.
32:25 <Steven> so how ya building it?
53:36 <Steven> im thinking
54:15 <Steven> half elf wizard
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49:19 <snypt> wizard is a pretty solid choice
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49:26 <snypt> anything is tho really with a half elf
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16:31 <Mekkis> !spell blood of the martyr
16:50 <diebot> Mekkis, TRAIL OF THE ROSE illusion (phantasm[]) bard 2, cleric 2 1 standard action Range: touch 1 rose touched Comp: S, V Duration: 1 hour/level (D) Save: no SR:noSource: Faiths Of Purity
16:50 <diebot> This spell creates an illusory trail in the form of a misty and visible scent coming from the rose used as this spell's material component. When you cast this spell, the scent of the rose leaves a faint pink-tinged illusion that ripples and flows in the area. Only you and up to six creatures you designate upon casting the spell can see the
16:50 <diebot> illusion. To designate a creature, you must know it well. It is not enough simply to have met that creature once or heard of the creature. When you move, this illusory scent leaves a trail, though there are no telltale signs of which direction you moved if creatures designated by this spell find a middle section of the trail. This is typically used
16:50 <diebot> to create backtracking method for the caster's handpicked allies, useful for navigating in and out of mazes or labyrinthine cave complexes without leaving behind an obvious trail.
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47:51 <Avatar> steven told me not to make my wizard a half elf
51:50 <Steven> well you dont optimize like i do.
54:28 <snypt> Avatar, you gonna come play with us?
55:15 <Avatar> play what
55:27 <snypt> pathfinder you nob
55:31 <snypt> what else
55:50 <Avatar> is this that game where you are bringing a bunch of players in here for some sweet gaming
56:00 <snypt> no not that one
56:13 <Avatar> that is how I remember it
56:13 <snypt> its the one where you put pants on and leave the house 
56:19 <Avatar> forget that
56:32 <snypt> ok i guess you dont need the pants
56:38 <snypt> underwear at least tho
56:50 <Avatar> the whole thing doesn't add a lot of logic
57:47 <snypt> why not?
58:48 <Avatar> just seems easier to play from here
00:06 <snypt> maybe it is easier
00:32 <snypt> but it is also easier to play a online roleplaying game like world of warcraft than to play pathfinder here
00:47 <snypt> but that does not make it better
00:50 <snypt> just easier
01:33 <snypt> but it is all good
01:40 <snypt> you dont have to play if you dont want to 
01:46 <Steven> i hate gaming with pants on too avatar
04:49 <Mekkis> Brunius|M, Just finished my most stressful battle of WoT I've played
05:31 <Mekkis> Defeat
05:42 <Mekkis> Battle: Himmelsdorf 9/01/2014
05:52 <Mekkis> Vehicle: M2 Medium Tank
05:57 <Mekkis> Experience received: 18
06:06 <Mekkis> Credits received: 2,192
06:15 <Mekkis> Battle achievements: Invincible
08:41 <Avatar> did you guys see the thread where a guy didn't know if he went too far by doing things like naming his characters herpes the clown and rumpleforeskin
08:48 <Avatar> and roleplayed them accordingly
09:34 <Steven> yeah
11:55 <Avatar> man
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01:58 <Mekkis> Did any of you get a christmas card from Paizo
02:03 <Mekkis> one arrived for me today
43:27 <Steven> i hate deck and dice mechanics in rpg superstar events
44:09 <Steven> just did my first both items are equally bad/good off of a dice vs a deck mechanism
18:36 <Steven> its always sad when i'm the last person who talked, i go away for many hours
18:57 <Steven> and when i come back my text has been scrolled off the chat yet.
27:15 <Steven> hasnt been even
31:19 <snypt> Hi Steven
31:56 <Steven> sup son
35:01 * Wrothmonk pops in
35:55 <Wrothmonk> Whats up?
36:16 <Steven> im missing game day cause i'm not feeling well enough to go out.
36:49 <Steven> well, i could probably go, but i wont go out when im sick cause i dont want people to catch it.
38:18 <Steven> whats up with you wroth?
38:42 <Steven> wrothmonk... or as we know him on the island... Creepy guy with the sword
38:51 <Wrothmonk> nothing much. Watching Evangelion while hanging out.
39:46 <Steven> so you're not doing anything?  you should GM for us!
40:19 <snypt> or you could Steven.
40:23 <Wrothmonk> ^^^^
41:31 <Steven> yes... the sick guy whos coughing with bronchitis all the time should GM....
41:44 <Wrothmonk> and said person should roleplay?
42:03 <Steven> easier to type than to speak
42:19 <Wrothmonk> block text then! We don't mind.
43:12 <Steven> 3 times not to have steve GM 1. Migraine 2. Sick 3. Super tired.   Its when i kill people.
43:40 <Wrothmonk> alright... well that leaves Synpt
43:47 <Wrothmonk> Snypt*
43:57 <Steven> no that leaves you!
44:45 <snypt> It has been years since I have even played tbh
45:21 <Wrothmonk> I suppose I don't exactly have a real reason not to besides just plain refusing...
45:40 <Wrothmonk> question is, do we actually have enough people?
46:43 <snypt> Probably not when you consider I would have to roll up unless there is some premades
47:08 <Wrothmonk> those exist actually
47:31 <Wrothmonk> at level 1, 5, and 7 if I recall correctly.
48:06 <Steven> 1, 4, and 7
48:24 <Steven> plus there are only 3 of us, so not legal table size.
48:49 * Wrothmonk peers around looking for lurkers
49:01 <snypt> I can maybe convince my girl to come play 
49:08 <snypt> she has never played before tho
49:46 <Wrothmonk> Not going to refuse a player, but htats probably not the best idea since /i'm/ still rusty.
50:26 <snypt> What I should really be doing is working on my pnp setting.  Being lazy tho cos I am still on holidays.
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09:46 <Steven> bored.
25:56 <Avatar> steven
26:02 <Avatar> wizard or arcanist?
26:29 <Steven> !rand wizard arcanist
26:29 <dicebot> Steven, random: arcanist
26:34 <Steven> looks like arcanist
27:22 <Avatar> no
27:32 <Avatar> dmamit
27:42 <Avatar> are you absolutely 50/50 on it
27:56 <Steven> just dont care bwahahahahahahah
28:02 <Avatar> fu
28:03 <Avatar> !
28:35 <Avatar> I have a commonsense test for GMs
28:52 <Steven> most people will fail it
29:14 <Avatar> yes most likely
29:37 <Avatar> I am banking on the premise that some won't
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14:14 <s_gmusic> DM question: when running a table of at least 7 PCs that could easily roflstomp a subboss as-written, would it be better to strengthen the subboss or add more enemies?
15:12 <Brunius> I've heard that adding more enemies is far more overpowering than strengthening the boss
16:07 <Steven> at least 7?  who the hell would want to run a table that large?
16:23 <Brunius> I've run it, it's terrible
16:49 <Steven> i've done 7 player tables
16:54 <s_gmusic> it's slow, I know, but even society is default 6.
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17:36 <Steven> they suck.
25:16 <s_gmusic> was mainly wondering about whether to strengthen one or add more mobs because of a conversation I had before. 
26:14 <Steven> what kind of mobs?
26:38 <s_gmusic> tieflings
27:09 <Steven> what kind of tiefling... cause there are alchemists, clerics, fighters
27:52 <s_gmusic> think they were rogues. it was the base tiefling in Bestiary 1.
30:14 <s_gmusic> was talking with a couple other people who DM more often than I about how I gave the subboss another couple class levels so they'd have a bit more HP and spells to deal with the party of 7 players and 2 pets. they both said I should have instead added more enemies to fight
32:04 <Philderbeast> IMO i would have added more, if your compensating for more players your better off affing more opponants for action econemy then just making one larger boss, as they can still end up killing that in a round, or he may end up so strong they can never hit it to kill it
32:25 <Steven> what were ya playin?
32:40 <s_gmusic> wrath of the righteous.
33:14 <s_gmusic> book 1, tiefling witch 5 in the wizard's tower.
33:33 <s_gmusic> bumped him up to level 7
33:55 <Steven> you can up his wealth by scrolls
34:26 <Philderbeast> what was the APL?
34:58 <s_gmusic> seven level 3 characters with at least 2 pets
35:13 <Philderbeast> yea i definatly would not have made it that hard
35:37 <s_gmusic> they still roflstomped him. :|
35:49 <s_gmusic> and they're not min-maxers, either.
35:54 <Philderbeast> more minions to soak actions would have3 been better
36:10 <Steven> i like summoning extra creatures
36:19 <Philderbeast> that many players turns in to death by 100 cuts.
36:38 <Philderbeast> more minions and prehaps max hp for its level would have been my way of doing it
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42:34 <s_gmusic> hm.... mmmk. That'll be something to think about before the next session
44:04 <Steven> throwing templates on a character also tend to be good
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46:05 <s_gmusic> ok. I went with the 2 extra class levels because it already had 5 and the increase to 7 only added a few more spells. Running Wrath has been the most I've GM'ed something, so I'm trying to use it as practice before I GM more for PFS or start a straight homebrew.
48:41 <Avatar> s_gmusic: are you talking about a PFS scenario
49:06 <s_gmusic> Wrath of the Righteous Adventure path.
49:12 <Avatar> oh
49:28 <Avatar> not sure how much leeway there is to change around APs?
50:46 <s_gmusic> me neither, but as far as I know, there are no plans to ever sanction Wrath for society credit.
53:24 <Steven> as much or as little as a person wants.
53:38 <Avatar> there you go
53:50 <Avatar> couldn't you just rewrite the whole thing from scratch
54:44 <s_gmusic> but.... why?
54:45 <Steven> if you run a portion of the AP as a module for PFS you have to run as written
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44:48 <Avatar> oh
44:50 <Avatar> you didn't mention that
51:45 <Steven> i dont mention a lot of things
51:55 <Steven> what didnt i mention this time?
52:21 <Avatar> you just said they can run it however they want
52:37 <Steven> yes, an AP can be run however a person wants
53:09 <Steven> but if you run a specific section of it as a module for pfs it has to be run as written
57:46 <Avatar> yeah you didn't say that the first time
57:53 <Avatar> lucky I questioned it !
58:02 <Avatar> with my outrageous scenario
00:13 <Steven> i said it the first time
00:50 <Steven> pretty sure i said it about 1 minute after i said the first part of it.
00:59 <Avatar> after I questioned it
01:19 <Steven> you're so cray cray
01:44 <Avatar> just tell me whether a wizard or an arcanist is better
01:56 <Steven> !rand wizard arcanist
01:57 <dicebot> Steven, random: arcanist
02:05 <Steven> arcanist!
02:05 <Avatar> goddamimit!
02:09 <Avatar> no rolling
02:11 <Steven> heh
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06:37 <Steven> that was fantastic
11:24 <Steven> had me a kick ass laugh
11:55 <Steven> so avatar......
12:05 <Steven> whatcha thinkin you gonna do?
13:28 <Steven> i have a suggestion
13:56 <Brunius> I should make my gunslinger
14:01 <Brunius> wonder how long he's been a WIP
15:57 <Steven> !rand wizard arcanist
15:57 <dicebot> Steven, random: wizard
16:04 <Steven> wizard it up!
34:39 <Avatar> I will probably lean towards the arcanist
34:43 <Avatar> but I have no idea how to build it
34:55 <Avatar> the perks from wizard aren't there and I don't think the arcanist ones make up for it
36:20 <Steven> what you dont like wizard schools?
38:34 <Avatar> no I do like wizard schools
38:38 <Avatar> I had a good wizard set up already
38:42 <Avatar> but then they released the arcanist
38:53 <Avatar> I feel like I should give it a go but don't know if it's viable
45:12 <Steven> heh
58:09 <Avatar> I need to know fairly soon because I might need it at arcanacon
58:32 <Steven> well build the damned thing man.
58:40 <Avatar> I think it is built
59:51 <Avatar> hmm I left my notes at work
59:59 <Avatar> because that's where I've been creating pathfinder characters.
00:19 <Steven> pffft.... not even working.
00:32 <Avatar> I've been looking at the shaman more recently, surprisingly complex
00:51 <Avatar> I thought it was just like the oracle where you just pick a mystery/spirit
01:05 <Avatar> but it's not, with wandering hex and wandering spirit
01:40 <Avatar> basically it's like being an oracle where you can interchangably have all the spirits/hexes
05:51 <Steven> yup
07:40 <Steven> they are pretty awesome
17:07 <Avatar> awesome/complicated
17:26 <Avatar> instead of having to know one mystery inside out, you need to know all of them
18:19 <Steven> well only ones you want to play around with
19:48 <Steven> its always sad when i'm the last person who talked, i go away for many hours
20:09 <Steven> and when i come back my text has been scrolled off the chat yet.
28:27 <Steven> hasnt been even
31:12 <Steven> so how ya building it?
32:31 <snypt> Hi Steven
33:08 <Steven> sup son
36:13 * Wrothmonk pops in
37:07 <Wrothmonk> Whats up?
37:28 <Steven> im missing game day cause i'm not feeling well enough to go out.
38:01 <Steven> well, i could probably go, but i wont go out when im sick cause i dont want people to catch it.
39:31 <Steven> whats up with you wroth?
39:54 <Steven> wrothmonk... or as we know him on the island... Creepy guy with the sword
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40:04 <Wrothmonk> nothing much. Watching Evangelion while hanging out.
40:59 <Steven> so you're not doing anything?  you should GM for us!
41:31 <snypt> or you could Steven.
41:35 <Wrothmonk> ^^^^
42:43 <Steven> yes... the sick guy whos coughing with bronchitis all the time should GM....
42:56 <Wrothmonk> and said person should roleplay?
43:15 <Steven> easier to type than to speak
43:31 <Wrothmonk> block text then! We don't mind.
44:24 <Steven> 3 times not to have steve GM 1. Migraine 2. Sick 3. Super tired.   Its when i kill people.
44:52 <Wrothmonk> alright... well that leaves Synpt
44:59 <Wrothmonk> Snypt*
45:09 <Steven> no that leaves you!
45:57 <snypt> It has been years since I have even played tbh
46:33 <Wrothmonk> I suppose I don't exactly have a real reason not to besides just plain refusing...
46:52 <Wrothmonk> question is, do we actually have enough people?
47:55 <snypt> Probably not when you consider I would have to roll up unless there is some premades
48:20 <Wrothmonk> those exist actually
48:43 <Wrothmonk> at level 1, 5, and 7 if I recall correctly.
49:18 <Steven> 1, 4, and 7
49:36 <Steven> plus there are only 3 of us, so not legal table size.
50:02 * Wrothmonk peers around looking for lurkers
50:13 <snypt> I can maybe convince my girl to come play 
50:20 <snypt> she has never played before tho
50:58 <Wrothmonk> Not going to refuse a player, but htats probably not the best idea since /i'm/ still rusty.
51:38 <snypt> What I should really be doing is working on my pnp setting.  Being lazy tho cos I am still on holidays.
15:18 <Mekkis> !spell blood of the martyr
15:38 <diebot> Mekkis, TRAIL OF THE ROSE illusion (phantasm[]) bard 2, cleric 2 1 standard action Range: touch 1 rose touched Comp: S, V Duration: 1 hour/level (D) Save: no SR:noSource: Faiths Of Purity
15:38 <diebot> This spell creates an illusory trail in the form of a misty and visible scent coming from the rose used as this spell's material component. When you cast this spell, the scent of the rose leaves a faint pink-tinged illusion that ripples and flows in the area. Only you and up to six creatures you designate upon casting the spell can see the
15:38 <diebot> illusion. To designate a creature, you must know it well. It is not enough simply to have met that creature once or heard of the creature. When you move, this illusory scent leaves a trail, though there are no telltale signs of which direction you moved if creatures designated by this spell find a middle section of the trail. This is typically used
15:38 <diebot> to create backtracking method for the caster's handpicked allies, useful for navigating in and out of mazes or labyrinthine cave complexes without leaving behind an obvious trail.
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03:36 <Mekkis> Brunius|M, Just finished my most stressful battle of WoT I've played
04:18 <Mekkis> Defeat
04:29 <Mekkis> Battle: Himmelsdorf 9/01/2014
04:39 <Mekkis> Vehicle: M2 Medium Tank
04:44 <Mekkis> Experience received: 18
04:53 <Mekkis> Credits received: 2,192
05:02 <Mekkis> Battle achievements: Invincible
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