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00:09:59 <s_gmusic> Time for Bad Movie Night! Tonight's pick: M. Night Shyamalamadong's The Last Airbender
00:42:04 <Steven> alright, im all signed up for Paizocon
00:42:11 <Steven> 5 slots of the confirmation
00:43:12 <Steven> and one slot of the special
00:50:58 <Steven> so... its quiet in here
00:51:09 <Steven> people must be on the train home.
00:51:35 <Philderbeast> nar thats a lie
00:52:04 <Philderbeast> how much gp is a raise dead?
00:53:47 <Steven> same as it always is
00:53:51 <Steven> unless you have a boon
00:55:40 <Philderbeast> i havent had a character that can afford it till now
00:55:49 <Philderbeast> and while i hope i dont need it
00:55:54 <Philderbeast> its always nice to know i can
00:56:10 <Steven> it is in the guide
00:56:22 <Steven> i wanna say pg 23
00:56:54 <Philderbeast> yep
00:56:56 <Philderbeast> thats the one
01:05:51 <Steven> ginger ale nom nom nom
01:08:20 <Steven> new scenarios tomorrow
01:08:21 <Steven> yay
01:13:51 <Avatar> yay
01:32:27 <Damalon01> yay
01:34:32 <Steven> also putting up a warhorn so i can be even lazier
01:38:38 <Damalon01> its good to be lazy
01:39:51 <Steven> indeed it is
01:39:56 <Steven> also, migraine went away
01:40:05 <Steven> so im feelin mighty good right now
01:40:19 <Steven> avatar roll that beautiful bean footage
01:45:54 <Avatar> what?
03:10:58 <Spaceshot> are there any pfs games semi-scheduled soon?
03:19:45 <Avatar> have you played we be goblins yet
03:20:06 <Avatar> that's the one next on my list
03:20:14 <Avatar> mekkis and ulzef wanted traitor's lodge as well
03:20:16 <Spaceshot> I have yet to play it
03:20:26 <Spaceshot> level/s for traitor's lodge?
03:20:33 <Avatar> 3-7
03:20:59 <Spaceshot> and what levels have they been suggesting?
03:21:18 <Avatar> I assume something between 3 and 7 inclusive
03:21:26 <Spaceshot> well thanks
03:22:09 <Spaceshot> all I've got for that bracket is Ava
03:23:20 <Damalon01> i want to play ALL the games
03:23:25 <Spaceshot> haha
03:23:30 <Spaceshot> that is the spirit
03:37:29 <Avatar> I'm aiming for next weekend instead of this weekend
03:37:33 <Avatar> probably saturday morning
03:37:40 <Avatar> yeah but there's no good comparison anywhere
03:37:56 <Avatar> a bag of the cheapest stuff
03:37:58 <Avatar> the best value stuff
03:38:11 <Avatar> an oil of daylight at 300gp can be hefty in the early levels
03:38:35 <Avatar> what % do you dedicate to consumables
03:39:05 * Steven shrugs
03:40:05 <Avatar> need to work out bloody roll20 again
03:40:51 <Steven> hmmmm... cant decide if i wanna do animal ally or just get the bonded animal
03:42:56 <Avatar> how do you log out of a campaign
03:43:02 <Avatar> I am still stuck in storming the diamond gate with no way out
03:43:39 <Avatar> found it, bottom of settings after scrolling down
03:48:27 <Steven> hmmm prolly just gonna go with bonded animal
03:52:55 <Mekkis> who mentioned my name?
03:53:47 * Steven shrugs
03:54:23 <Mekkis> it was Avatar
03:55:26 <Mekkis> getting past grapples is expensive
03:55:35 <Mekkis> I think the cheapest is around 8k
03:57:43 <Mekkis> !item Corset Of The Vishkanya
03:57:44 <diebot> Mekkis, CORSET OF THE VISHKANYA [faint transmutation] CL:3 body 3000gp, 1lb
03:57:44 <diebot> This black corset fits neatly beneath armor. As a free action, the wearer can compress herself to fit through tight spaces as though affected by a squeeze spell (Advanced Race Guide) for up to 10 rounds per day. While using the corset's magic, she gains a +5 bonus on Escape Artist checks. Source: Ultimate Equipment
03:58:03 <Mekkis> !item Vest Of Escape
03:58:03 <diebot> Mekkis, VEST OF ESCAPE [faint conjuration and transmutation] CL:4 chest 5200gp, 0lb
03:58:04 <diebot> This simple silk vest looks nondescript, but is actually studded with numerous secret pockets sewn into its lining. Hidden inside these are magic lockpicks that provide a +4 competence bonus on Disable Device checks. The vest also grants its wearer a +6 competence bonus on Escape Artist checks. Source: Ultimate Equipment
03:58:45 <Mekkis> !item Highwayman's Cape
03:58:46 <diebot> Mekkis, HIGHWAYMAN'S CAPE [faint transmutation] CL:5 shoulders 32500gp, 1lb
03:58:46 <diebot> This reversible multicolored cape marks the wearer's flamboyant audacity when turned with its bright colors outward, granting a +5 competence bonus on Bluff checks. Reversible as a move action, the dappled camouflage of its other side grants a +5 competence bonus on Stealth checks. Furthermore, the wearer is subject to a constant effect like that
03:58:47 <diebot> of the spell liberating command (Ultimate Combat) regardless of the cape's current facing. Source: Ultimate Equipment
03:59:40 <Mekkis> that's really good or completely useless
04:00:08 <Steven> probably the best way is an unfettered shirt
04:00:18 <Mekkis> !item unfettered shirt
04:00:19 <diebot> Mekkis, UNFETTERED SHIRT [moderate abjuration and transmutation] CL:7 chest 10000gp, 0lb
04:00:19 <diebot> This loose, often ruffled, shirt is cut in a style designed to avoid hindering its wearer's movement. Once per day on command, the wearer can gain the benefits of freedom of movement for 10 minutes. Source: Ultimate Equipment
04:01:24 <Mekkis> Boots of escape is cheaper
04:01:25 <Spaceshot> so we no longer use CA for PFS?
04:01:47 <Avatar> I'm trying to give roll20 a go but it has caused nothing but disaster
04:01:59 <Spaceshot> ahh
04:02:09 <Spaceshot> to be more open to new players?
04:03:01 <Avatar> people tell me it's better
04:03:32 <Spaceshot> it probably has more options or more functionality
04:03:45 <Spaceshot> but CA is good for the online replacement of a grid map
04:04:15 <Spaceshot> avatar, hunters get their teamwork feat/s shared with their companion
04:04:34 <Steven> i like my spider climb boots
04:04:53 <Avatar> the only advantages it really has are players moving their own tokens, and lighting
04:04:54 <Steven> or shoes of the lightning leeper
04:05:06 <Spaceshot> moving their own tokens?
04:05:10 <Spaceshot> are there at least limits this time?
04:05:12 <Steven> get out of grapple and do damage... sure that sounds good
04:06:00 <Spaceshot> Teamwork Feat: At 3rd level and every three levels
04:06:00 <Spaceshot> thereafter, the hunter gains a bonus teamwork feat in
04:06:00 <Spaceshot> addition to those gained from normal advancement. The
04:06:00 <Spaceshot> hunter must meet the prerequisites of the selected bonus
04:06:00 <Spaceshot> feat.
04:06:01 <Spaceshot> As a standard action, the hunter can choose to learn
04:06:03 <Spaceshot> a new bonus teamwork feat in place of the most recent
04:06:05 <Spaceshot> bonus teamwork feat she has already learned. In effect,
04:06:07 <Spaceshot> the hunter loses the bonus feat in exchange for the new
04:06:09 <Spaceshot> one. She can only change the most recent teamwork
04:06:11 <Spaceshot> feat gained, and must meet the prerequisites for the
04:06:13 <Spaceshot> newly selected feat. A hunter can change her most recent
04:06:15 <Spaceshot> teamwork feat a number of times per day equal to her
04:06:17 <Spaceshot> Wisdom modifier. Whenever she gains a new teamwork
04:06:19 <Spaceshot> feat, the previous teamwork feat becomes permanent.
04:06:42 <Spaceshot> good ability, but so many teamwork feats require either both melee or both ranged
04:07:30 <Avatar> what
04:07:49 <Spaceshot> didn't some people here have an issue with people moving their own tokens in the past
04:07:57 <Spaceshot> by just dancing around or something
04:08:17 <Avatar> people don't really mess around
04:09:09 <Spaceshot> mmk
04:09:31 <Spaceshot> so does the DM have final say/control of player interaction?
04:10:37 <Avatar> h
04:10:40 <Avatar> ow do you mean
04:11:05 <Mekkis> would Inquisitor's Bastion Vambraces grant double the bonus to CMD?
04:11:14 <Spaceshot> like, does the DM functionaly say who's turn it is and then they only are able to move on their turn?
04:11:31 <Spaceshot> and does the DM have the option to go into combat mode and exploration mode?
04:11:52 <Avatar> there's an initiative tracker
04:12:06 <Avatar> there's no combat mode and exploration mode, what would that do
04:12:27 <Spaceshot> in exploration mode people would be able to move their token whenever they wish
04:12:40 <Spaceshot> whilst in combat mode only the person who's turn it is can move
04:12:53 <Avatar> I don't think anybody cares about that
04:12:56 <Spaceshot> tis what another virtual table-top I have seen does
04:12:59 <Avatar> if it's not your turn, you just don't move
04:13:01 <Spaceshot> yea probably doesn't
04:13:11 <Spaceshot> some form of honour code/system
04:13:27 <Spaceshot> though I bet some sessions can just end with a guy being a douchebag if they get fucked up or annoyed
04:15:42 <Spaceshot> I dunno, maybe I think people are more annoying/dicks than I should in general
04:17:21 <Steven> no, why would it?
04:17:32 <Mekkis> !item Inquisitor's Bastion Vambrac
04:17:33 <diebot> Mekkis, INQUISITOR'S BASTION VAMBRACES [faint abjuration] CL:5 wrists 4000gp, 3lb
04:17:33 <diebot> Constructed of blackened steel, these vambraces augment the protection granted to the inquisitor by the protection judgment. While under that judgment's effects, the inquisitor gains a sacred bonus both to CMD and on checks made to cast spells defensively. This bonus is equal to the sacred bonus the judgement grants to AC. Source: Ultimate
04:17:33 <diebot> Equipment
04:17:51 <Mekkis> because the protection judgement grants a bonus to AC
04:17:58 <Mekkis> which would also go to CMD
04:20:53 <Steven> its the same source, so why would it stack?
04:21:17 <Mekkis> if it doesn't, the item seems pretty useless
04:21:40 <Steven> not all items are created equal
04:22:03 <Spaceshot> either way, I'm willing to give it a go
04:22:15 <Philderbeast> Avatar: did you want a hand to fix up your storming the diamond gate roll20?
04:22:54 <Mekkis> if it doesn't, why mention the bonus to CMD at all
04:23:18 <Steven> well...
04:23:24 <Steven> if you're an evil inquisitor
04:23:41 <Steven> nope still shit
04:23:52 <Mekkis> so it stacks if you're evil?
04:24:13 <Steven> maybe the inquisitor sacred bonus was not originally intended to increase CMD
04:28:30 <Avatar> fixing up we be goblins
04:28:35 <Avatar> have you played it
04:32:28 <Philderbeast> not the first one
04:32:31 <Philderbeast> only the second
04:32:52 <Philderbeast> but i can help with that if you weant
04:34:58 <Avatar> no spoilers
04:35:18 <Spaceshot> I'll be up for we be goblins
04:35:31 <Spaceshot> you can add it to a level 2 once correct?
04:35:37 <Philderbeast> i want to play the first one
04:35:43 <Philderbeast> i own it but havent read/played it yet
04:37:00 <Philderbeast> or im about to do some maps for ROTR if you want to see how i do it
04:37:13 <Avatar> yeah you can put the credit on a level 2 once
04:37:31 <Avatar> I just need to align the map
04:37:38 <Avatar> last time I did a reasonable job of it, but it was still pretty shit
04:37:50 <Philderbeast> yea im doing one now thats a flip mat if you want me to show you my process
04:37:57 <Avatar> yeah alright
04:37:59 <Avatar> link me up
04:38:15 <Philderbeast> https://app.roll20.net/join/311264/BDg2vQ
05:32:41 <Philderbeast> how the map setup going now avatar?
05:39:47 <Avatar> it was set up earlier
05:45:10 <Spaceshot_> so is there a rundown on how this roll20 works or do I just jump in and let the magic happen?
05:45:33 <Avatar> there are video tutorials but I have found them troublesome
05:45:42 <Avatar> do a youtube search
05:45:54 <Spaceshot_> mmk
05:45:58 <Spaceshot_> maybe one day
05:46:03 <Spaceshot_> as in, sooner to the event if it happens
05:53:07 <Steven> playing me some banner saga
06:27:47 <SpeEn> hey
06:28:36 <SpeEn> So news back here in Norway are reporting that Alabama & Georgia are strugling with some snow
06:30:05 <SpeEn> https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-rB5_pXJF9wA/Us1Nzk9uB7I/AAAAAAAAuz0/2UN88YRqu4E/w391-h577-no/Snow_US_vs_Norway.jpg
06:30:06 <SpeEn> =)
06:31:11 <Wrothmon_> Its not the snow, its the temperature.
06:34:21 <SpeEn> =P
06:34:40 <SpeEn> Still funny =)
06:50:51 <Damalon01> im thinking about getting that game, any goodd?
07:20:11 <Avatar> I wish we were struggling with some snow
07:29:56 <Spaceshot_> I'd like some
07:30:09 <Spaceshot_> I don't even think ballerat has had any in the last few years
07:30:14 <Spaceshot_> ballarat*
07:34:04 <Brunius> My town had snow about 8 years ago
07:45:59 <Spaceshot_> didn't know your town was also raised slightly
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11:01:25 <Spaceshot> for hunter, which is all about the companion, should I take eye for talent over the bonus feat if I decide human?
11:13:51 <Steven> its currently snowing here
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14:45:01 <Damalon01> yo
15:41:20 <Avatar> yo
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15:48:18 <Avatar> what is eye for talent
15:49:31 <Avatar> look at that list of names of people who are going to die
15:49:48 <Avatar> https://warhorn.net/events/melbourne-pfs/schedule/2014/02/02
15:57:18 <Spaceshot> !eye for talent
15:57:21 <Spaceshot> bah
15:57:23 <Spaceshot> gimme a sec
15:58:10 <Spaceshot> Eye for Talent: Humans have great intuition for
15:58:11 <Spaceshot> hidden potential. They gain a +2 racial bonus on Sense
15:58:11 <Spaceshot> Motive checks. In addition, when they acquire an animal
15:58:11 <Spaceshot> companion, bonded mount, cohort, or familiar, that
15:58:11 <Spaceshot> creature gains a +2 bonus to one ability score of the
15:58:11 <Spaceshot> character’s choice. This racial trait replaces the bonus
15:58:13 <Spaceshot> feat trait
15:58:51 <Avatar> the bonus feat is better
15:59:09 <Avatar> well, I don't know hunter well enough
15:59:17 <Avatar> I am using a rough animal companion comparison
16:02:57 <Avatar> spaceshot you don't want to play that scenario
16:03:10 <Spaceshot> I'm not playing with Ava
16:03:15 <Spaceshot> I'm not that stupid
16:03:17 <Avatar> mekkis ran it for us as our 2nd scenario ever
16:03:25 <Avatar> that was probably the only appropriate time you could play it
16:03:38 <Avatar> one scenario to know how PFS works, and one scenario to show that they're not kidding around
16:04:02 <Spaceshot> and a GM to prove it?
16:04:44 <Avatar> yeah
16:05:11 <Spaceshot> I still have to level my metal oracle
16:05:19 <Spaceshot> but I believe it/he is up to scratch
16:11:39 <Spaceshot> the only reason I am thinking about eye for talent is so that I can get to 3 int (most likely 4 actually, but 3 is the requirement) from level 1
16:12:10 <Spaceshot> thus being able to start the pet with either weapon focus (natural attack) (or the actual feat for that) or power attack
16:12:22 <Spaceshot> and means I do not have to wait till the first stat buff for those feats
16:12:43 <Spaceshot> well not power attack (needs +1 bab for that), but the options for other stuff are there
16:29:32 <Avatar> I had a pretty amazing steak and I feel like going shopping to get another
16:30:19 <s_gmusic> custom magic items for a christmas event: http://twitpic.com/dtsvho
16:31:18 <s_gmusic> I wonder who's the barbarian ( ^ ^)
16:42:19 <Spaceshot> good for you and your steak
16:42:26 <Spaceshot> yet aren't the really good ones expensive?
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17:01:36 <s_gmusic> just found the new miniature and hand drill I picked up yesterday in my bag. now to decide on mods for it. the mini: http://privateerpress.com/files/products/31020_CommanderColemanStryker-Variant_WEB.jpg
17:03:20 <s_gmusic> also, any tips on removing spray paint from metal figs? I got one that was hit with a grey primer and flat black that I'd like to clean up and paint better.
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17:05:14 <Brunius> Try uh
17:05:17 <Brunius> Simple Green, I think it's called
17:05:42 <Brunius> Don't try it with plastic figs, but for metal it should be fine
17:05:50 <s_gmusic> for metal figs? I know that the Reaper Bones say to use for their products
17:07:00 <s_gmusic> couldn't hurt, I suppose.
17:07:18 <s_gmusic> brun, do you mod your figs any? thoughts/ideas?
17:12:24 <Brunius> I haven't modded any metal figs.
17:13:14 <s_gmusic> mmmmk
17:17:11 <Spaceshot> what is this for gmusic?
17:17:28 <Spaceshot> like what sort of character are you trying to accomplish?
17:17:39 <s_gmusic> was wondering about removing the sword from the fig I linked above
17:18:06 <s_gmusic> and ideas for other figs.
17:18:41 <Spaceshot> I mean, are you trying to get this fig to be a warrior, a swashbuckler, a ninja, what?
17:18:55 <s_gmusic> not decided yet. :D
17:18:55 <Spaceshot> that'll help me help you
17:19:08 <Spaceshot> haha
17:20:05 <s_gmusic> I mean, sure, I could remove the sword and make another Pistolero, but what about removing the gun and going with a fighter? perhaps remove both and make a quarterstaff rogue?
17:20:13 <Spaceshot> well to remove the sword, people swear by heating an exacto knife and slicing carefully, now that may only be for plastic, I do not remember
17:20:18 <s_gmusic> I like ideas. no telling what someone can come up with.
17:20:43 <Spaceshot> to me, stryker is more an alchemist/crazy sort of character model
17:21:02 <s_gmusic> I've removed swords before. bought two identical figs and removed the sword from one so I could use her for a monk. the other is a for a fighter. :3
17:21:16 <Wrothmon_> Maybe remove both and add a potion form somewhere else, looks like he is in a good position to throw a potion.
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17:21:26 <Wrothmonk> Make it an alchemist.
17:21:45 <Spaceshot> I'd say switch the sword with the pistol (so it's a forward out sword) and then put a bomb in that hand
17:22:03 <Spaceshot> make him a different alchemist (aka one that isn't always bomb first do anything else once run out)
17:30:24 <Wrothmonk> Could remove the pistol and add another sword, two weapon fighter. Not the most original mod though.
17:30:45 <s_gmusic> hm... don't have anything shaped like a potion and I don't have any green stuff to make one with. :(
17:31:15 <s_gmusic> did just find some Simple Green in the garage, but it's half frozen. >.>
17:31:19 <Spaceshot> hah
17:32:07 <Wrothmonk> Bomb or grenade shaped then?
17:32:26 <Spaceshot> probably something alchemical I'd suggest
17:34:43 <Spaceshot> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ny5mua1psg5y49h/ZS0aJ2BK6u
17:34:49 <Spaceshot> that's what I use as my metal oracle
17:35:15 <Spaceshot> falchion wielder
17:35:37 <s_gmusic> cool
17:36:33 <Spaceshot> I actually play legion in WarmaHordes, so it's a win win :P
17:37:09 <Spaceshot> still have no idea what model I wish to use for my main character
17:37:32 <s_gmusic> nice. I collect figs for pathfinder characters, so while I have a few from there, I'm not into the army game
17:37:40 <Spaceshot> Ava, a female human with long red hair, blind, and has a long spear and buckler
17:38:57 <Spaceshot> yet to find a suitable character
17:39:23 <s_gmusic> just looked through my weapon pack and nothing in there I could reshape into a flask. :\
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17:39:53 <Spaceshot> weapon pack?
17:40:32 <s_gmusic> https://www.reapermini.com/Miniatures/weapons/latest
17:41:49 <s_gmusic> cheap to get and really useful.
17:42:32 <Philderbeast> dows anyone know of any good gold dragon minis?
17:42:54 <s_gmusic> if your main (Ava) wears a robe, could get one of those weapon packs and replace the bowls on this fig: https://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/blind/sku-down/03360
17:43:35 <Spaceshot> currently a chain shirt
17:44:29 <Spaceshot> weapons I can do, but I'd prefer a good long-spear
17:44:31 <s_gmusic> hm
17:45:23 <Spaceshot> sorry, not blind, deaf
17:45:38 <Spaceshot> and deaf rarely has anything on the model haha
17:45:40 <s_gmusic> ah
17:45:42 <s_gmusic> lol
17:46:44 <Philderbeast> i need to find a medium/large/huge gold dragon minis
17:47:05 <s_gmusic> do you RP the deafness or is it actual mechanics?
17:47:16 <Spaceshot> both
17:47:26 <Spaceshot> I'm an oracle
17:47:26 <s_gmusic> philder, I haven't seen any good minis that are similar to a gold dragon.
17:47:27 <Spaceshot> deaf oracle
17:47:30 <s_gmusic> ah
17:47:51 <Philderbeast> hmmmm my sorcerer is going to turn in to one when he gets to the right level so i want the mini for it
17:49:01 <s_gmusic> perhaps this one? http://www.reapermini.com/Miniatures/Bones%20dragon/sku-down/77108
17:49:37 <Philderbeast> yea its an option i just dont know what size it is
17:50:15 <Spaceshot> https://www.coolminiornot.com/shop/female-empire-agent-light-faction.html
17:50:23 <Spaceshot> would be good if Ava was Xian
17:51:40 <s_gmusic> :O
17:51:42 <s_gmusic> I WANT
17:51:44 <s_gmusic> >.>
17:52:04 <Philderbeast> http://www.reapermini.com/Miniatures/dragon/sku-down/02453
17:53:35 <s_gmusic> philder, that dragon I linked before is described as an "Adult" dragon, which Bestiary I says is Huge.
17:54:11 <Philderbeast> hmmm i need medium first... im thinking if i cant find anything better ill buy the white dragon evolution set and paint them gold
17:54:22 <s_gmusic> heh
17:54:40 <Philderbeast> http://www.trollandtoad.com/p122995.html for a prepainted version, not sure i like that mini though
17:55:10 <Spaceshot> https://www.coolminiornot.com/shop/visions-in-fantasy-female-undead-hunter.html
17:55:30 <Spaceshot> that is cool, and I do usually wear a cape/cloak, at least I believe I have it written down somewhere
17:55:36 <s_gmusic> philder: bleh. also, it was made for the D&D minis game.
17:55:42 <Spaceshot> just changed the sword to a rod + buckler and I'm good
17:56:18 <Philderbeast> i can find every colour but gold :(
17:56:34 <s_gmusic> dammit, space, I'm trying to NOT buy a bunch of minis here. xP
17:56:38 <Spaceshot> get a generic dragon, paint it gold?
17:56:46 <Philderbeast> yea im thinking thats what im going to do
17:56:52 <Spaceshot> if you live in Melbourne/Vic I will gladly let you and just mug them when needed :P
17:56:52 <Philderbeast> i just need to fine 3 good dragon minis lol
17:57:00 <Philderbeast> as i get bigger as i level
17:57:27 <Spaceshot> how much are you willing to spend for the largest one?
17:57:39 <Philderbeast> if my character survives to that level a lot lol
17:57:51 <Spaceshot> https://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/Bones/sku-down/77109
17:58:04 <Spaceshot> if that specific dragon hasn't already been specified
17:58:08 <Philderbeast> yea i linkthed that one already
17:58:21 <Spaceshot> well it is good
17:58:32 <Philderbeast> and i like bones for minis
17:58:35 <Spaceshot> not really that good for the large size
17:59:53 <Spaceshot> gmusic, I don't usually worry about minis, at least not making/buying one specifically for it unless it's at least level 3
18:00:05 <Spaceshot> the legionnaire was just suited and I already done it prior
18:01:37 <Philderbeast> [3~http://www.reapermini.com/Miniatures/Bones/sku-down/89001
18:01:55 <Philderbeast> that mini has potental, and looks cool for a sorcerer becoming a dragon
18:14:29 <s_gmusic> yup. might have to mod it a bit to feel more like a gold dragon than just a gold-colored Red
18:15:33 <s_gmusic> I could see using Green Stuff putty to make the wings run down the back.
18:22:23 <Philderbeast> hmmm ill have to take a look around
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18:29:56 <s_gmusic> yup. that's always fun to do because you may get an idea for something else.
18:31:27 <Spaceshot> I have a nice model for what my new hunter is going to be, though it may need to be elven for it to work
18:31:33 <Spaceshot> let me see if I can find the model online
18:33:58 <Spaceshot> http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440027a&prodId=prod1160057a&rootCatGameStyle=
18:34:15 <Spaceshot> not finecast, actual metal
18:34:25 <Spaceshot> and I have yet to paint it, it's only undercoated white so far
18:35:05 <s_gmusic> nice
18:35:20 <Spaceshot> still not sure if I want a cat or a wolf
18:35:28 <Spaceshot> or anything else
18:58:36 <s_gmusic> so... just seen that one of the guys in my Wrath of the Righteous group is having their birthday today. wonder if I should grant an item or a one-time buff for the duration of the adventure?
19:00:40 <Damalon01> Yo Avatar are you likely to run a game of PFS this Saturday? i dont want to pressure you, I'd just like to know so I can plan out my weekend.
19:05:42 <Spaceshot> wrath of the righteous? some premade massive campaign thing?
19:09:58 <Damalon01> its an adventure path for the Year of the Demon
19:45:17 <Spaceshot> ahh
19:45:21 <Spaceshot> sounds interesting then
19:46:42 <Philderbeast> hmmm i think i just found my huge gold dragon mini for when i get there
19:47:05 <Spaceshot> is gold fire or electric?
19:47:10 <Philderbeast> fire
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19:47:52 <Philderbeast> http://www.reapermini.com/Miniatures/cinder/latest/10014
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20:01:13 <Spaceshot> well, I'm going to be playing a level 1 hunter (either fresh 1.0 or 1.1xp from a remake I still have valid)
20:01:23 <Spaceshot> now I have no idea what pet to use
20:06:29 <s_gmusic> get both and have one of them be a non-combat pet like the monkeys you can buy?
20:29:22 <Spaceshot> meh
20:30:16 <Spaceshot> I want a melee pet, but I'm not sure which
20:39:46 Mekkis sets mode -i Mekkis
20:39:46 Mekkis sets mode -r Mekkis
20:39:46 Mekkis sets mode -w Mekkis
20:39:46 Mekkis sets mode -x Mekkis
22:15:59 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Mon Jan 20 19:08:19 2014
22:22:01 <Avatar> delirium's tangle is good
22:22:15 <Avatar> there aren't many you need to consider avoiding
22:22:25 <Avatar> darkest vengeance, dalsine affair
22:23:03 <Avatar> a lot of people say severing ties, but my group did pretty fine with it
22:23:23 <Avatar> king of old azlant I've heard is another nasty one
22:23:35 <Avatar> before the dawn 2 can be nasty
22:35:12 <Spaceshot_> and temple of empyrial enlightenment is hard for low tier
22:37:17 <Damalon01> duh morning
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22:44:39 <Avatar> I played it at low tier
22:44:48 <Avatar> and granted, we very nearly TPK'd
22:44:52 <Avatar> but it was run wrong
22:44:59 <Avatar> and our party made some very silly errors
22:49:51 <Spaceshot_> run wrong?
22:49:58 <Spaceshot_> BBEG wrong, or just general wrong?
22:50:13 <Avatar> the GM made a mistake, wasn't run as written
22:50:27 <Avatar> ended up getting swamped with everything at once when we weren't supposed to
22:50:37 <Spaceshot_> ahh... yea I know what you mean
22:51:06 <Spaceshot_> in theory that's possible, very very vague theory
22:51:40 <Avatar> what do you mean in theory it's possible
22:51:42 <Avatar> it did happen
22:52:46 <Spaceshot_> no, I mean as written it's possible
22:54:59 <Spaceshot> what's happenin?
23:02:07 <Wrothmonk> Apparently nothing.
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23:25:13 <Avatar> we didn't do anything to trigger that kind of thing
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23:28:32 <Avatar> the GM reroll is a pretty fantastic incentive to start GMing
23:28:44 <Avatar> stephen very rarely plays, but played at arcanacon
23:28:58 <Avatar> and we pointed out to him he has a +5 to his reroll and it did him some rather large favours
23:29:15 <Spaceshot_> oh yea the stars = bonus to reroll
23:29:27 <Avatar> having a save of +6 then adding a dice roll of 10 then adding a +5 GM reroll to that is pretty amazing
23:29:57 <Spaceshot_> mmm
23:30:04 <Spaceshot_> now I just have to make my hunter for sunday
23:30:25 <Avatar> going from 16 to 21 is a live-saving change
23:30:30 <Spaceshot_> usually
23:30:36 <Avatar> it is
23:30:42 <Avatar> saves are usually more than 16 but less than 21
23:30:50 <Avatar> hands down
23:30:51 <Spaceshot_> also, do you prefer flavour or function when making a character?
23:30:55 <Avatar> that's on an average roll
23:31:00 <Avatar> function
23:31:06 <Avatar> flavour is secondary
23:31:15 <Spaceshot_> MUNCHKIN
23:31:19 <Spaceshot_> haha
23:31:20 <Avatar> if you don't mind dying, then use flavour
23:31:50 <Avatar> some people talk about creating their characters based on concept first, then building functionally to that concept
23:32:05 <Spaceshot_> tis a roleplayer's view
23:32:07 <Avatar> that requires a certain system mastery
23:32:15 <Avatar> more than what I've got
23:32:28 <Spaceshot_> system mastery?
23:32:50 <Avatar> knowledge of what feats and traits and spells etc are out there
23:32:53 <Spaceshot_> I think it's just people wanting to have fun with what they're playing, to be able to get into the body/mind of the character, rather than just play the numbers game
23:33:30 <Avatar> some people can do one or the other, much fewer can do both
23:35:19 <Spaceshot_> each to their own
23:35:39 <Spaceshot_> me, I am going to be scouring books through till saturday night, amongst doing other stuff
23:35:42 <Spaceshot_> to get my concept workin
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23:40:51 <Spaceshot_> are there any alternative elves like the alternative tieflings and assimars?
23:41:29 <beetaloo> hi guys
23:41:36 <Damalon01> hi
23:41:41 <beetaloo> just popped in to get my daily dose
23:41:53 <beetaloo> my p\shrink advises this
23:41:57 <beetaloo> d n ddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd
23:42:03 <beetaloo> dynamiteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
23:42:16 <beetaloo> i headbag like a retard
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23:49:59 <Avatar> mate don't even go there
23:50:08 <Avatar> tieflings are widely not respected
23:51:39 <Spaceshot_> no I just mean like in 3.5 where they had wood elf, sun elf, moon elf and drow
23:51:51 <Spaceshot_> I'm surprised they don't have that for pathfinder
23:52:17 <Avatar> probably because it was LaM3
23:52:59 <Spaceshot_> well sorry if I wish to be a woodelf
23:53:16 <Spaceshot_> I most-likely need to take an assimar subtype to get my desired feel
23:58:49 <Spaceshot_> may even require a tiefling
23:58:51 <Spaceshot_> hmm...