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32:41 <Steven> suuuuuuuuuuuuuup
19:57 <Philderbeast> the sky
20:24 <Steven> lame
23:48 <Steven> i was gonna play in a fangwood keep game, until i realized it was on gameday next week
23:53 <Steven> which i'm really hoping im better by.
46:51 <Steven> so quiet in here....
47:15 <Steven> am i gonna have to do the boon for the first person who talks thing again?
14:21 <Steven> suppose i'll just go play some mincraft
45:29 <s_gmusic> fresh thermal paste applied and new slots cut into the case for better air flow. here's hoping this laptop runs better. :|
45:54 <s_gmusic> correction: runs COOLER. it already runs pretty good as-is.
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52:16 <Steven> played minecraft for a few hours
52:18 <Steven> was fun.
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48:58 <Steven> suuuuuuuuuuuuuup
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53:33 <Brunius> steeeeeeeven
53:40 <Steven> sup brunius
53:54 <Brunius> why is this chick trying to convince me I should go to the beach with my family
54:05 <Steven> because shes dumb
54:25 <Steven> or... shes gonna be there too and wants to see you and play with your balls
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14:28 <Mekkis> Brunius, I hit 100% for my second skill of my M2 medium
14:52 <Mekkis> now working on third skill: Brothers in Arms
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24:00 <Avatar> yo
24:33 <Brunius> at last, he appears
24:52 <Avatar> what does that mean
25:01 <Brunius> you know what it means
25:11 <Steven> sup
26:10 <Steven> whatcha guys think i should build in minecraft?
26:16 <Avatar> the enterprise
26:37 <Steven> thats not stupidly beyond my newbie abilities
31:02 <Brunius> an automated redstone tree farm
31:20 <Steven> i dont even know what that is...
32:11 <Brunius> a tree farm
32:14 <Brunius> automated by redstone
32:52 <Steven> my brother made a cloud tall nude avatar of himself with a dick that pisses lava and a heart tattoo on his ass
33:09 <Brunius> sounds like a classy guy
33:18 <Steven> real classy
34:54 <Steven> whats the point of a tree farm?
35:00 <Brunius> to get infinite wood
35:00 <Brunius> duh
35:44 <Steven> okay...
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38:51 <Steven> creative mode?
39:11 <Avatar> no survival
40:03 <Steven> no i mean why would anyone need a tree farm to make infinite wood when there is creative mode
40:23 <Brunius> for when you're not using creative mode
43:53 <Steven> whats the point then? oh im playng survival... i need to make a house, better go over and make infinite wood... good thing im roughing it.
59:12 <Avatar> creative mode is basically cheat mode for survival
01:56 <Steven> but an infinite wood generator isnt?
02:53 <Avatar> no it's a generator
03:07 <Avatar> sort of like a power plant
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04:45 <Avatar> who are these fools who put down Light Infantry as their class on warhorn
07:55 <Avatar> I might only be going for 2 days of the con
08:51 <Brunius> y
09:12 <Avatar> nothing I can play on saturday
09:18 <Avatar> I've played year of the shadow lodge as well
09:28 <Avatar> I might come in to GM something if they need more
09:31 <Brunius> yeah someone else said they had nothing they could play on saturday
09:38 <Avatar> oh really
09:39 <Avatar> who
09:48 <Brunius> don't remember
09:53 <Brunius> it was in that big post on facebook
12:56 <Mekkis> Brunius, Avatar Tanks?
13:13 <Avatar> nah I think I have lost interest in tanks
13:17 <Avatar> unless I am particularly bored
14:48 <Mekkis> Avatar, didn't you read darkwhite's email
15:08 <Avatar> no
15:10 <Avatar> that big one
16:04 <Brunius> "Aleksia Anderton ah coolies. Is there any other scenarios running on the saturday as I am 99% sure Ive played them all lol"
18:33 <Avatar> I cannot find that post anywhere
19:18 <Brunius> "We are excited to announce Pathfinder Society sessions are now open for player signup on Warhorn:"
19:19 <Avatar> oh wait  there it is
19:21 <Brunius> Then three down
19:23 <Mekkis> Similarly, we WILL be adding more sessions to the schedule as we observe player signups and identify
19:23 <Mekkis> areas of demand.  So please don't be afraid to Waitlist or tell us what you're looking for in our
19:23 <Mekkis> Facebook group chat, otherwise we won't know to add another table.
20:25 <Avatar> I know how table mustering works chief
28:14 <Steven> there i made a tree farm
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27:49 <Steven> alright what should i make now?
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36:07 <Mekkis> !item Staff of Radiance
36:12 <diebot> Mekkis, STAFF OF RADIANCE [moderate evocation] CL:8 none 23200gp, 5lb
36:13 <diebot> This silver-tipped willow staff constantly emits light, as if from a light spell-the radiance is emitted from the staff's metallic end and flickers as if with flame. The staff's wielder can deactivate or activate this glowing light as a swift action. In addition, a staff of radiance allows use of the following spells: • Glitterdust (1 charge) •
36:13 <diebot> Daylight (2 charges) • Searing light (2 charges) Source: Ultimate Equipment
38:01 <Mekkis> !spell searing light
38:04 <diebot> Mekkis, SEARING LIGHT evocation ([]) cleric 3, inquisitor 3 1 standard action Range: medium (100 ft. + 10 ft./level)  Comp: V, S Duration: instantaneous Save: none SR:yesSource: PFRPG Core
38:04 <diebot> Focusing divine power like a ray of the sun, you project a blast of light from your open palm. You must succeed on a ranged touch attack to strike your target. A creature struck by this ray of light takes 1d8 points of damage per two caster levels (maximum 5d8). An undead creature takes 1d6 points of damage per caster level (maximum 10d6), and an
38:04 <diebot> undead creature particularly vulnerable to bright light takes 1d8 points of damage per caster level (maximum 10d8). A construct or inanimate object takes only 1d6 points of damage per two caster levels (maximum 5d6).
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43:25 <Steven> sup
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33:38 <SpeEn> Hello
33:59 <SpeEn> I have some questions regarding the Gamemastery module for 3.5
34:06 <SpeEn> Crown of the kobold king
35:45 <SpeEn> It refers to the Monster manual for the various encounters
36:08 <SpeEn> My question is if I can just use the PF beastiary versions without any modification
36:20 <SpeEn> I.E there is a CR 3 Grick
36:26 <SpeEn> with 9 HP
36:36 <Steven> you can use PF stuff with slight modifications
37:19 <Steven> but gricks in pf have 27hp
37:33 <Steven> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/aberrations/grick
37:36 <SpeEn> yeah
37:54 <SpeEn> So, with DR 10/magic
38:06 <SpeEn> how would that play out if I gave him 27 HP
38:43 <Steven> whenever a player hit him with a physical weapon if its not +1 it does 10 less damage
38:45 <SpeEn> The group consists of rogue, ranger, fighter, sorcerer & wizard
39:19 <SpeEn> yeah, the group has some masterwork items
39:23 <Steven> so the fighter, comes up and hits with a longsword for 14 damage, but its just a masterwork longsword
39:33 <SpeEn> and the fighter has a +1 dragon-bane longsword
39:56 <Steven> so you take the 14 damage subtract 10 and so the fighter actually does the grick 4 damage.
40:32 <SpeEn> Yeah, that's what I thought (even tho I had not considered that magic items bypassed the DR)
40:58 <Steven> weapons can bypass certain types of DR by what their bonus is.
41:05 <Steven> so a +1 bypasses magic
41:16 <Steven> a +3 bypasses cold iron and silver
41:23 <Steven> a +4 bypasses Adamantine
41:40 <Steven> a +5 bypasses alignment
41:49 <Steven> and a +6 bypasses epic
42:17 <SpeEn> cool, I did not know that
42:22 <SpeEn> just starting out =)
42:30 <Steven> so if a creature had DR 10/Magic or Silver
42:37 <Steven> all the player needs is a +1 weapon to bypass it
42:54 <Steven> but if a creature has DR 10/Magic and Silver
43:15 <Steven> the player would need a +3 weapon OR a +1 Silver Weapon
43:28 <SpeEn> aye
43:48 <SpeEn> But do you think I would  need to adjust the PF version grick
44:03 <SpeEn> down to 9 hp like the module suggests
44:05 <Steven> probably not.
44:34 <Steven> a player has a +1 dragonbane longsword, so he can bypass the DR
44:40 <SpeEn> yeah
44:51 <Steven> and you've got wizard and a sorc.
44:55 <SpeEn> yeah
45:00 <Steven> so as long as they arent fighting a pack of them
45:06 <SpeEn> color spraying bastards both of them
45:07 <Steven> it should be fairly easy fight
45:59 <SpeEn> Yeah, I guess so
46:22 <SpeEn> Thanks man, you've been a great help
46:29 <Steven> if you really think they are going to have a problem
46:36 <Steven> you could apply the young template.
46:46 <SpeEn> aye
47:00 <Steven> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/templates/simple-template-young-cr-1
47:10 <SpeEn> Thanks
47:17 <SpeEn> I do all the templates in hero lab
47:23 <SpeEn> so it's pretty easy
47:40 <Steven> but really, gricks are fairly easy once someone has a magical weapon
48:02 <SpeEn> Yeah, I did not realise that the magic weapons bypassed aswell
48:43 <SpeEn> I thought they where going to have to kite it down with acid splash and other low level spells
49:07 <Steven> heh, i've done that in a game or two
49:26 <SpeEn> =)
49:58 <Steven> giant misquito basically 10ft reach before lunge
50:13 <SpeEn> hehe
50:19 <Steven> bout 20 damage a turn, attach with con drain
50:31 <Steven> flying 15ft off the ground
50:34 <SpeEn> lol
50:44 <Steven> fast healing 5
51:16 <SpeEn> hehe
51:22 <Steven> kited it with magic missile from the bard and a cranewing monk tanking it about 150ft to a house
51:26 <Steven> got it trapped inside
51:34 <Steven> and burned the house down around it
51:43 <SpeEn> nice!
51:54 <Steven> because we coulld not do damage to it.
52:17 <SpeEn> My group is just starting out, never played any table top rpg's before
52:28 <Steven> how many in your group?
52:30 <SpeEn> so everyone's pretty fixed in the wow box mindset
52:50 <SpeEn> we are currently 5/6 pc's
52:52 <Steven> thats a difficult box for some people to get out of.
53:03 <SpeEn> yeah
53:04 <Steven> which country you live in?
53:07 <SpeEn> norway
53:30 <SpeEn> fortuneatly we got one experienced rpg player that joined
53:50 <SpeEn> we have played 2 sessions
54:01 <SpeEn> the experienced guy joined for the second session
54:08 <SpeEn> and the game altered very much
54:10 <Steven> awesome.
54:22 <Steven> have you guys looked at PFS at all?
54:27 <SpeEn> I have
54:27 <Steven> Pathfinder Society.
54:40 <SpeEn> But I need to read up some more
54:43 <Steven> I try to get everyone into it.
54:54 <Steven> Well if you have any questions feel free to ask
55:03 <SpeEn> Yeah man, you've been great
55:11 <Steven> I am one of the volunteer campaign coordinators.
55:19 <SpeEn> Where are you from=
55:20 <SpeEn> ?
55:30 <Steven> I'm from Washington State, USA
55:49 <SpeEn> Nice!
55:59 <SpeEn> Sometimes I wish I lived in the USA
56:13 <Steven> well... it has its ups and downs.
56:22 <SpeEn> It's hard getting people together for stuff like RPGs in norway
56:38 <SpeEn> just 5 million people
56:45 <SpeEn> spread out all over the place
56:45 <Steven> well, i dont think i know of any organized play in Norway.
56:57 <Steven> let me go check
57:06 <SpeEn> Nope, I think i browsed that list
57:09 <SpeEn> didnt find anything
57:11 <Mekkis> I thought it was pretty active in sweden
57:32 <Steven> looks like finland has a fair bit.
57:49 <SpeEn> yeah, that makes sense
58:27 <Steven> well hey you never know, get a regular group you might just have to put an application in.
58:57 <SpeEn> Yeah, atleast 4-5 of us are pretty excited about it
59:04 <Steven> we're pretty friendly here except for the occasional passionate discussion. 
59:14 <SpeEn> the rest are abit scared of all the rules
59:19 <Steven> or 45 minute surprise rounds lol
59:37 <SpeEn> =)
00:20 <SpeEn> I'm planning on running a few modules now to get everyone familiar with the system
00:33 <SpeEn> then when I feel that everyone's comfortable
00:43 <SpeEn> I'll try to run the Rise of the runelords AP
00:56 <Steven> well dont worry about the rules, the great thing is that even if you've gotten them wrong for months or a year you can always just look them up and then go "Hey i was wrong we're doing it this way from now on cause its right'
01:21 <Steven> and it may cause some grumbling, but in nearly every case its for the betterment of the players.
01:42 <SpeEn> Yeah
02:03 <SpeEn> We've currently been playing without AoO and CM's
02:22 <Steven> ouch those are where combats get interesting.
02:27 <SpeEn> Yeah
02:29 <Steven> the risk vs reward.
02:47 <SpeEn> So I'm thinking we need to introduce atleast one of them next session
02:57 <Steven> do i want to take an AoO to get up there and heal a friend....
03:37 <Steven> i would start the session with an introduction to what threatened squares are.
04:03 <SpeEn> Ok
04:41 <Steven> since AoOs work off the basis of doing something in a threatened square
04:51 <SpeEn> yeah
05:05 <Steven> really if you can stand to do it, if you read through the combat section of the Core Rule Book
05:19 <SpeEn> But I'm thinking they would benefit from having the charge available
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05:37 <SpeEn> Yeah I'm reading the CRB all the time
05:52 <SpeEn> and www.d20pfsrd.com
05:53 <Steven> you'll have a great footing for when it comes to figuring out how to run and play a game.
06:26 <SpeEn> But let me run this by you
06:31 <SpeEn> Last session
06:32 <Steven> go ahead.
06:54 <SpeEn> First of, Have you played master of the fallen fortress?
07:05 <Steven> played and GM'd
07:17 <SpeEn> cool
08:20 <SpeEn> so when the PC's killed of the spider at ground level, instead of climbing the exterior of the tower. They used a grappling hook and ascended up through the fallen staircase
08:37 <SpeEn> so everyone's standing inside the staircase at level 2
08:47 <Steven> That is what a lot of players do
09:32 <SpeEn> The wizard who speaks draconic, listens by the door and hears the troglodytes on the other side speaking about how boring it is just sitting around and guarding the chief's pets
10:17 <SpeEn> discussing if they should kill 1 and eat it ( I used 2 yound shocker lizzards instead of one normal)
10:31 <SpeEn> to get the leathal damage going
11:00 <SpeEn> Now as the wizards tells everyone to be quiet because there's somebody on the other side
11:32 <SpeEn> The fighter exclaims something ( I cannot remember ) and the troglodytes hear him and pick up their arms
11:41 <SpeEn> going to investigate
12:23 <SpeEn> the wizard uses ghost sound to conjure the sound of 4 heavily armored guys to intimidate them to put down their arms
12:41 <SpeEn> the troglodites makes their will save
12:53 <SpeEn> and continue towards the door
13:09 <SpeEn> now they all ready themselves for combat
13:18 <SpeEn> question is will they get a surprise round?
13:38 <SpeEn> the troglodites opened the door btw
13:55 <Steven> not really, they are both aware of each other
14:08 <SpeEn> yeah, so just normal initiative
14:23 <Steven> yeah pretty much
14:39 <Steven> now if the players had opened the door and stormed in, they would have gotten one.
14:46 <SpeEn> yeah
15:13 <SpeEn> also, the burning skeletons
15:32 <SpeEn> do you roll for fire damage before the adjecent PC's turn?
16:25 <Steven> when their turn starts they take 1d6 fire damage
16:49 <Steven> before they get to act
16:52 <SpeEn> ok
16:58 <SpeEn> so what happened here is the following
17:05 <SpeEn> they pick the lock to that room
17:11 <SpeEn> the sorcerer opens the door
17:21 <SpeEn> see's the skeletons and closes the door
17:46 <SpeEn> the ranger then kicks the sorcerer in the back, causing him to roll on his face into the room
18:07 <SpeEn> now the skeletons approach and hit him for some damage
18:09 <Steven> so violent towards his compatriots!
18:39 <Steven> brb, gotta put wood on the fire
18:42 <SpeEn> =)
19:09 <SpeEn> So anyway, I thought I should roll for fire damage during the same turn
19:18 <SpeEn> but that resulted in the sorcerer dying
19:23 <SpeEn> so I reread the rules
19:41 <SpeEn> and figured out that he would not take that damage until just before his turn
20:19 <SpeEn> the players then metagamed and figured if they picked up the sorcerer and threw him back into the staircase room, he would be ok
21:06 <Steven> slight metagame, the skeletons are ablaze in fire and its not a stretch that standing next to them would be just a bit dangerous.
21:07 <SpeEn> Now how would you play out that issue, with picking him up and throwing him
22:14 <SpeEn> The fighter did the act
23:41 <SpeEn> the sorcerer is a gnome btw
23:53 <Steven> I think its one of those times where the GM gets to decide how he wants to handle it.  Every GM is a little different, there are a couple people down at my local shop who would make sure that sorc is unconscious and dying
24:01 <Steven> and theres no way to save him
24:41 <Steven> but there are others who would have no problem at all with the table pulling the sorc back into the room.
24:48 <SpeEn> Yeah, I did not want to discourage the guy during his second session. So I just let it happen
25:45 <Steven> there isnt a right or wrong answer to that situation.  So long as players aren't breaking the rules or combat isnt getting horribly derailed
26:08 <SpeEn> yeah, I think it worked out
26:17 <SpeEn> they still had a hard time taking the skeletons down
26:34 <Steven> then as long as the players are having fun, theres nothing wrong with letting people do what they want.
26:42 <SpeEn> even tho they would have had a even harder time with AoO
26:51 <Steven> yeah the fight is pretty nasty
27:15 <SpeEn> they moved into combat, hit, retreated out of reach
27:26 <SpeEn> or the rogue and fighter did
28:14 <Steven> so how did they move into, attack, and then retreat?
29:16 <SpeEn> I.E fighter moves up towards a skeleton (2 squares), does his 2handed attack, moves back (2 squares)
30:13 <SpeEn> he should have suffered an AoO on the retreat during the first round
30:20 <Steven> alright, so heres some rules knowledge for you.
30:25 <SpeEn> sweet
30:42 <Steven> when you move, you lose any unspent movement once you end your movement.
31:50 <Steven> so if you have 30ft(6 squares) of movement, use a move action to move 2 of them up to an enemy and end your movement.
32:23 <Steven> use a standard action to attack, you only have a swift action and free actions remaining
32:36 <Steven> so you cannot move away before they have a chance to hit you.
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33:01 <SpeEn> hum
33:10 <Steven> there is a feat that allows people to do the action you describe called Spring attack.
34:55 <SpeEn> Yeah
35:09 <SpeEn> "In a normal round, you can perform a standard action and a move action, or you can perform a full-round action. You can also perform one swift action and one or more free actions. You can always take a move action in place of a standard action."
36:00 <Steven> now you know, and now combat will take on more complex tactics.
36:16 <SpeEn> So basicly what you're saying is that what we did was 2x Move actions
36:38 <Steven> yes, 2 moves and 1 standard. which is more than you have available.
36:42 <SpeEn> aye
37:34 <SpeEn> But the fighter could have moved to a non-adjacent square, waited for the skeletons, done a full-attack, then a 5-foot step?
37:40 <SpeEn> not in the same round offcourse
37:58 <SpeEn> the full attack and 5-foot in the same round tho
38:05 <Steven> yes
38:07 <SpeEn> aye
38:11 <SpeEn> complex
38:12 <SpeEn> =)
38:29 <SpeEn> I'll go through that before we start next session
38:40 <SpeEn> Felt kind of like cheating as we went through it
39:05 <Steven> Have you been giving out Chronicles at the end of your sessions?
39:16 <SpeEn> hum
39:48 <Steven> a chronicle looks like the last page on Master of the fallen fortress.
40:15 <SpeEn> that's for PFS isnt it?
40:29 <Steven> it is, i was just wondering if you had given any out.
40:33 <SpeEn> no
40:49 <Steven> no biggie
40:52 <SpeEn> I run the session with hero lab, so I add what they find as we're playing
41:08 <Steven> i wonder when the next time we are going to be playing a pfs game
41:10 <SpeEn> I then update their character sheet and upload to our facebook group
41:47 <SpeEn> inbetween games
42:15 <Steven> i only mention this because we could invite you to come and play, and the best way to learn the system is to sit down for a game.
42:40 <SpeEn> How would that play out?
42:52 <Steven> We play online all the time.
43:20 <Steven> we have two Adventure Paths(like super modules) being played this weekend.
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44:49 <SpeEn> what AP's?
45:42 <Steven> Serpents Skull and Way of the Wicked
46:13 <Steven> I'm currently GMing a Rise of the Runelords at the local shop.
46:23 <SpeEn> cool
46:39 <SpeEn> do you use roll20, or?
47:21 <Steven> every GM prefers things a bit differently, i usually use our local program CA(combat assistant), this channel, and Skype.
47:27 <Steven> others prefer roll20
47:42 <Steven> teamspeak, or googlehangouts
47:57 <SpeEn> cool
48:00 <Steven> whatever makes it easiest to game really.
48:04 <SpeEn> yeah
48:23 <Steven> we have two bots in the channel that help with rolling
48:28 <Steven> !throw 2d20
48:28 <diebot> Steven, 2d20: [2d20=20,4] 24
48:36 <SpeEn> =)
48:59 <Steven> i occasionally use them when im rolling channels for my life oracle.
49:00 <SpeEn> How long are your sessions?
49:13 <Steven> PFS sessions usually take about 4-5 hours
49:31 <SpeEn> When do you start?
49:34 <Steven> but online you have to figure a scenario takes about 5-6 hours or longer.
50:13 <Steven> well most of the channels occupants are in Australia.
50:25 <Steven> so they start in the AM
50:35 <Steven> which is usually around my 5pm
51:53 <Steven> which would be like 9pm in London i believe.
51:54 <SpeEn> so your like 18 hours behind them?
52:03 <Steven> just about that much
52:13 <SpeEn> heh
52:24 <SpeEn> could work, If I wasnt married =)
52:52 <Steven> well you never know, we have a few guys from over in london who stop in once in a while to play
53:06 <Steven> and i'm a care giver so my hours are kinda crazy.
53:53 <SpeEn> Sounds very tempting, and I'll defiently let you know if the opportunity arises. But I have problems sitting through a 45 minute long league of legends game
54:33 <SpeEn> Wife hates everything that has to do with computers
54:34 <Steven> hey me too!
54:43 <Steven> i mean with the a LoL thing.
54:43 <SpeEn> probably because of WoW =)
55:00 <Steven> perfectly understandable
55:14 <Steven> course... if she were playing as well...
55:22 <SpeEn> Yeah, working on it!
55:24 <Steven> lol
55:50 <Steven> but really, anytime you have questions we're usually around to answer them
56:02 <Steven> if you dont get a response its usually because everyone is either sleeping, or at work.
56:07 <SpeEn> =)
56:17 <SpeEn> Yeah I must say I did not expect this kind of service
56:28 <SpeEn> the internet is usually just filled with retards
56:44 <Steven> i usually leave my computer on all day just idling and lurking in the channel
57:13 <SpeEn> It's been a long time since I idled in IRC. But it looks like I just found a reason to take it up again
57:59 <Steven> well the great thing about this place is you have a wide selection of gaming types to pool an opinion from.
58:11 <SpeEn> Nice.
58:19 <SpeEn> The experienced guy I was talking about
58:42 <SpeEn> He had'nt played d&d for about 15 years
58:50 <SpeEn> He's currently playing Vampires
58:54 <SpeEn> and Kult
59:01 <Steven> played vampires for a bit
59:15 <Steven> never got around to kult
59:16 <SpeEn> His vampire group have been going for 12 years now
59:22 <SpeEn> with the same PCs
59:31 <Steven> geeze... do they just basically own the world now?
59:37 <Steven> have the colonized mars?
59:40 <SpeEn> I dont know
59:43 <SpeEn> But last year
59:45 <SpeEn> one of them died
59:47 <Steven> 12 years... long time.
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