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15:20 boris ([email protected]) has joined #d&d
17:49 <kapow> mekk whats your email so i can sent you sheet
34:21 <Mekkis> use the site
16:35 <kapow> blahh but I hadn't made it site compatible yet cause I was trying to save time I planned to make it ready for that over the weekend
45:16 <Avatar> yeah this is the end
46:27 <Steven> fo sho
05:39 <Avatar> there's this new thing on linkedin
05:47 <Avatar> where you can endorse skills people have set for themselves
05:59 <Avatar> it is a bit like doing those quizzes, except for people you know
06:15 <Avatar> there's one asking if my old IT manager knows about Windows?
06:20 <Avatar> the answer is no
06:49 <Avatar> they had trouble understanding someone telling them an audio driver had to be installed to stop a dialog bugging them to install it, and needed a screenshot
07:55 <Brunius> what is linkedin
09:12 <Steven> so i got access to the developer forums today
09:20 <Steven> it was pretty sweet until the website crashed
10:07 <Brunius> and you suggested that character 22870-5 be bumped to level 7, 22871-1 be brought back from the dead, and 22876-1 be changed to a paladin?
10:40 <Steven> i know not of which you speak
12:36 <Avatar> Brunius: social network for jobseekers
13:06 <Steven> since my chat closed when my computer battery got low
13:20 <Steven> did mekkis say whether or not he would allow a fetchling?
13:37 <Avatar> of my dead characters, Roger is the one you want brought back from the dead?
13:38 <Brunius> Not that I recall
13:45 <Brunius> Roger is the one that I remember
13:47 <Brunius> Who else is dead
13:52 <Avatar> Mellon and Snake
14:02 <Brunius> Wasn't snake a synthesist
14:03 <Avatar> wizard and summoner respectively
14:09 <Avatar> yeah I had a synthesist
14:23 <Steven> i gave somebody a 'free' raise today
14:25 <Steven> cause i felt bad
14:31 <Avatar> why
14:33 <Avatar> you can't do that
14:35 <Brunius> You should raise roger
14:36 <Avatar> I want a free raise too
14:36 <Steven> a level 1 w/ 1 exp playing in a 3-4 game
14:42 <Avatar> raise Snake or Mellon
14:50 <Brunius> Was it their only choice?
14:50 <Avatar> so what !
15:03 <Brunius> Was it their choice to go in the game, or was everyone pressuring them
15:09 <Brunius> because peer group pressure is bad juju man
15:16 <Avatar> they would've had to meet the APL most likely
15:23 <Avatar> not hard to do that with 3-4
15:27 <Steven> one person decided to play their level 5
15:33 <Avatar> but you still can't give them free raises, otherwise everyone should get free raises
15:40 <Steven> instead of playing their level 2
15:50 <Brunius> Yeah, rules seem to get bent a bit more over there
15:58 <Brunius> Maybe being so far from the mothership has made us hard
16:29 <Avatar> darkwhite is pretty harsh with his rulings
16:35 <Avatar> he usually tries to take a harsh but fair approach
16:51 <Avatar> not criminally harsh
17:11 <Avatar> but he's in favour of die when we're talking about don't save the player from save or dies with cheap creative solutions
17:12 <Steven> yeah walter was like, kill him his fault for playing in this game, and i was like your fault for bumping table from 1-2 teir to a 3-4 teir
17:32 <Steven> and he was like.... well..... so
17:39 <Steven> and i was like evens or odds, and rolled a dice
17:57 <Avatar> ask mike brock if you can roll a dice 
18:01 <Steven> i made him pay for a restoration to remove the negative level
18:02 <Avatar> I bet the answer is no, $10
18:34 <Steven> I bet i could have just as easily lied about the damage and put him at 1 less from total death and stable
18:42 <Avatar> I'd actually like to be more lenient like that but the reality of the campaign is that you can't if you're playing fair
18:52 <Steven> but considering it was the guys second ever game
18:57 <Steven> i dont want to fuck the guy over
19:25 <Steven> i like to break them in a little slower than that
19:37 <Avatar> how much exp did he have
19:45 <Steven> 1 xp
19:53 <Avatar> that's how much my first character had when mekkis killed me
20:01 <Avatar> in darkest vengeance
20:05 <Avatar> can I get a free raise
20:14 <Steven> if he wanted to give you one
20:27 <Avatar> it's the same campaign
20:31 <Avatar> if your guy gets one, I should too
20:43 <Steven> yeah, if your GM wants to give you one, so be it
20:56 <Avatar> that's cheating man
21:00 <Avatar> I don't want a raise
21:02 <Avatar> I have 11 characters now
21:11 <Avatar> you should've let him stay dead
21:11 <Steven> me too, high fives!
21:15 <Avatar> he will make do without 1 exp
21:18 <Avatar> just like I did
21:58 * Steven shrugs
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28:30 <Brunius> Fuckin' Darkest Vengeance man
28:34 <Brunius> You going to arc?
28:44 <Steven> I just went and checked the stat block, and actually I screwed up, he didn't die.
28:51 * Steven facepalms
29:02 <Brunius> ain't that convienient
29:22 <Steven> no, its really not
29:25 <Steven> its bad
30:09 <Steven> they put the 3-4 teir and the 6-7 teir on the same page for the badie
30:24 <Brunius> I hate it when they do that
30:39 <Steven> yeah, its like -11 damage to the crit attack
31:11 <Steven> 12 even
33:14 <Steven> now i gotta email him and tell him im a twat
37:23 <Steven> god.... i hate doing this
44:27 <Avatar> tell him the way you saved his life was actually legitimate
45:05 <Steven> nah, ill just tell him i sucked a fat one, and appologized
45:18 <Steven> apologize 
48:45 <Steven> anyways, i think imma GM a game in here sometime soon.
49:02 <Brunius> surely you jest
49:43 <Steven> yeah.... and im gonna fuck up so much and cover it with odd rulings
50:08 <Brunius> sweet
50:14 <Brunius> then we will have a precedent
50:44 <Brunius> And we'll be like "But the VL from 'murica said it was ok!"
50:59 <Steven> yeah
51:08 <Steven> table variance is a bitch
51:18 <Steven> ide love to see avatar play at my friend andrews table
51:23 <Steven> if he doesnt know something, it makes it up
52:02 <Avatar> every GM fucks up and tries their best to cover it up :P
53:23 <Steven> yeah... so long as i dont turn into a bobby
53:41 <Steven> who changes rules to get kill counts im fine with whatever i do
54:18 <Brunius> That's just stupid
54:21 <Brunius> Why would you do that
54:43 <Avatar> there really needs to be a proper guide in good GMing
54:45 <Steven> cause thats how he has fun
55:01 <Avatar> some people think it's me vs the players rather than make it fun for the players
55:02 <Brunius> he has fun at the expense of others fun?
55:20 <Avatar> new GMs are prone to it
55:26 <Brunius> Avatar: You saw the GM 101, right?
55:33 <Avatar> no?
55:37 <Steven> i have done a GM101
55:41 <Avatar> oh wait maybe I did
55:44 <Brunius> It was on the paizo blog a while back
55:46 <Steven> and been in a panel for GM101
56:03 <Avatar> yeah I'll have to dig that up
56:05 <Steven> they literally tell you if you dont know a rule, make/fake it
56:25 <Steven> and then figure it out later
56:39 <Brunius> The important thing is to keep it going, I think
56:47 <Steven> yeah
56:50 <Brunius> It's no fun for anyone to get bogged down in a 20 minute debate about the rules
57:07 <Steven> yeah, i've gotten in a 20 minute debate on rules before
57:25 <Steven> it was annoying
57:33 <Brunius> It's happened in here, but I think that particular instance was less about rules and more the people involved
58:23 <Steven> im usually pretty much like make a ruling and lets go for it
59:09 <Avatar> Mekkis: I might be up for a boxing day game
59:26 <Brunius> Oh yeah, I might be
59:31 <Steven> lets fuckin do this... i only argue when i know for a fact that something works one way, point it out and a GM *cough cough bobby cough cough* completely disregards it to do what they want
59:36 <Avatar> on a 1-5 ideally
59:52 <Steven> boxing day is the day after christmas correct?
59:57 <Brunius> the day after
59:58 <Brunius> yeah
00:31 <Brunius> Steven: If you can pull up a specific rule, go for it. If it's down to interpretation, there's gonna be trouble
00:45 <Steven> yeah no this was in the core rulebook
01:08 <Steven> had to do with coup rules
02:56 <Steven> the specific situation was if memory serves
03:08 <Steven> he said his creatures were acting at the same time
03:16 <Steven> one guy knocked a guy unconcious
03:24 <Steven> then five foot stepped away
03:39 <Steven> while the other guy started couping
03:59 <Steven> i was like... so they arent acting at the same time
04:11 <Steven> because obviously if he was he wouldnt be couping
04:33 <Steven> and he was like no hes doing it at the same time
04:45 <Steven> and i was like, so my guy will step up
05:35 <Steven> and disarm since couping provokes
05:47 <Steven> and he was like no you cant step up because this is happening at the same time
06:12 <Avatar> did initiative order go out the window
06:14 <Steven> ./start arguement
06:17 <Brunius> It's a bit of an unspoken rule that you don't coup as a gm
07:21 <Steven> there are actually some scenarios that specifically say they try to kill people and then run away with food, and the creatures are intelligent so they would use a coup if the opportunity presented itself
08:01 <Brunius> obviously you do it if the scenario lends itself that way
08:20 <Steven> but, the creatures in that scenario usually just outright kill people with the insane damage output of them
08:31 <Brunius> but just in general combat I don't think it's good practive
08:34 <Brunius> practice even
09:07 <Steven> yeah, but we are talking bobby... who is kind of a douche
09:54 <Steven> sweet, he says its no problem... i feel better now.
19:24 <Steven> i might Gm a game the weekend after christmas
22:26 <Steven> avatar....
23:26 <Steven> think we might play a mid level game.
23:57 <Avatar> mid level in yours is okay
24:43 <Steven> mid levesl 3-7
25:06 <Steven> might do us some Blackrose Matrimony!
27:14 <Steven> fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
27:18 <Steven> im combing out my beard
31:18 <Steven> yeah, blackrose matrimony... maybe.....
36:55 <Steven> well.... if you guys wanna do something like the matrimony let me know, ill look to prepping it
40:58 <Brunius> what range is it?
43:59 <Steven> 3-7
44:08 <Brunius> For when?
25:51 <Avatar> yeah man we wanna do it
25:55 <Avatar> where did he go
51:35 <Brunius> not-here
54:16 <Ballig> not-there
58:39 <Avatar> buy what boon
58:42 <Brunius> not-everywhere
59:00 <Avatar> kapow: just put it in a text file and it's site compatible
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57:05 <Mekkis> Avatar, did you buy the boon?
06:11 <Mekkis> Avatar, this boon: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1675907842/pathfinder-online-a-fantasy-sandbox-mmo
06:13 <Mekkis> for $5
07:52 <deeldose> hey did u guys ever put a mouse lord in your campaign
08:11 <deeldose> needs to be done :P
08:35 <deeldose> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/outsiders/animal-lords-tohc/animal-lord-mouse-lord-tohc
24:44 <kapow> mekk
24:51 <kapow> which hit points are we using for our health?
24:55 <kapow> rolled + con?
25:04 <kapow> or as per pfs?
27:34 Steven ([email protected]) has joined #d&d
57:57 <Mekkis> pfs-style
18:13 <kapow> mekk whats your email so i can sent you sheet
34:46 <Mekkis> use the site
16:59 <kapow> blahh but I hadn't made it site compatible yet cause I was trying to save time I planned to make it ready for that over the weekend
40:36 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Sun 23rd 9.30am (tier 5-9,Avatar) | WotW: Jan 12th 2pm || All topic times are AEDT (UTC+11:00); set up your timezone on the site for local times in the Schedule! | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au
40:36 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Wed Dec 19 16:17:19 2012
40:36 <***> Buffer Playback...
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51:38 <Mekkis> Steven, have you downloaded all the scenarios?
02:47 <Steven> currently doing that
05:44 <Mekkis> I have a script that extracts all handouts from a directory full of PFS scenarios. Any chance you could run it for me?
06:11 <Steven> no?
06:22 <Steven> i have stuff in there you arent allowed to have
06:31 <Mekkis> like...?
06:44 <Steven> like things im not allowed to tell you.
06:56 <Mekkis> could you put those things in a different directory then?
07:20 <Steven> but your messing up my whole system man
07:27 <Mekkis> ?
07:51 <Steven> I'm setting up a bunch of folders and what not
08:23 <Steven> organizational system which will help me in the long run
08:47 <Steven> plus why do you want the hand outs anyways?
09:53 <Mekkis> so I can have a nice printout of all the handouts (including chronicle sheets) to make running sessions easier, so my local GMs don't need to print them off before running a scenario
10:25 <Mekkis> actually, it only looks for files that match PZOPSS*.pdf
11:16 <Mekkis> so if your Secret files aren't like that, there shouldn't be a problem
13:15 <Steven> its how they are listed
13:26 <Mekkis> come again?
16:31 <Steven> the files im not allowed to share are done with the same system as scenarios and what not
16:39 <Steven> because some of them are scenarios
18:09 <Mekkis> do they start with PZOPSS?
18:55 <Steven> ill see bout getting you a list of all the chronical sheets, handouts, and faction missions once i finish downloading everything and get my stytem set up how i want it
19:27 <Mekkis> ok
19:43 <Mekkis> thanks. As I said, I have a script that shoves them into a single PDF
20:03 <Steven> yes they start with PZOPSS, they use the system for all their stuff
20:58 <Mekkis> for all their pathfinder society scenarios
21:18 <Mekkis> is there something after Cyphermage for VC-only yet?
22:28 <Steven> stop asking me questions that i dont know if im allowed to answer
27:24 <Steven> mother fucker..... im out of coke now
27:29 <Steven> this day sucks
27:29 <Steven> no cheezits not coke
30:41 * Mekkis passes Steven some white powder
36:43 <Steven> i dont do drugs
36:46 <Steven> or anthrax
36:54 <Steven> or powdered sugar
38:36 <Steven> season 2 done. woot woot
51:17 <Steven> i think its time for dinner
46:07 <Avatar> gg
04:00 <Brunius> Got shot :(
07:00 <Avatar> sux
08:51 <Brunius> We were sitting about 2m away from each other the whole time
08:53 <Brunius> it was terrible
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10:54 <Mekkis> who shot you, Brunius?
11:16 <Brunius> Beluga31
11:17 <Brunius> With a DMR
12:10 <Mekkis> Dennis MacAlistair Ritchie?
28:23 <Brunius> Designated Marksman Rifle?
46:53 <Mekkis> disgusting. You don't know Dennis Richie!
47:27 <Mekkis> he's probably one of the most influential people in computing
58:23 <Avatar> who
59:06 * Steven shrugs
00:14 <Mekkis> Dennis Richie
00:38 <Mekkis> he had the misfortune to die in the same week as Steve Jobs
00:50 <Mekkis> so his death didn't get the attention it deserved
01:01 <Avatar> oh that guy
01:12 <Avatar> I didn't remember his name
02:13 <Mekkis> he was bored one day in the '60s, and wrote unix
02:31 <Mekkis> then in the early '70s, he was bored and wrote C, then rewrote unix in C
02:42 <Mekkis> aren't you an op in #unix, Avatar?
02:48 <Mekkis> you should know this!
02:51 <Avatar> probably not anymore
02:56 <Avatar> I haven't been there in years
03:08 <Avatar> I was only an op in there because I was friends with the guy who owned it
03:12 <Mekkis> do you have today off?
03:19 <Avatar> half day
03:39 <Mekkis> nice
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25:24 <Brunius> I know who dennis richie is
28:26 <Mekkis> where did he work, and what programming languages did he write?
36:55 <Brunius> I don't know where he worked
37:05 <Brunius> C, wasn't it?
40:35 <Avatar> let's take a history lesson on him shall we
40:52 <Brunius> Sounds fun!
40:53 <Avatar> anyone running anything tonight? I am down to game
40:55 <Brunius> You can lead.
42:11 <Mekkis> Sanos Abduction on Boxing Day, start at 10am
42:32 <Avatar> tonight !
42:43 <Mekkis> I have Magic tonight
42:53 <Avatar> what tier is sanos 
43:32 <Brunius> 3-7
43:39 <Brunius> It's a season 4
49:51 <Avatar> setting it up
50:02 ChanOP gives channel operator status to Avatar
54:33 <Brunius> Steven - " I encourage anyone that would like to cheat to do so, I will respond in kind and as a GM I'm certainly better at it. "
54:57 <Steven> indeed i am
57:18 <Mekkis> that sounds pretty confrontational
57:37 <Brunius> That's what they're all saying on the forums
58:11 <Steven> and im the one that said it!
58:12 <Steven> bwahahahahahaha
58:37 <Mekkis> in Magic, we say "Please don't cheat. Otherwise we'll catch you, and then there will be a lot of paperwork to DQ you. We don't like paperwork."
59:09 <Avatar> steven you troll!
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59:56 <Steven> back, had to restart
00:02 <Steven> and yes i am a total troll
00:50 <Steven> but i also say that exact line
01:20 <Mekkis> I still think encouraging cheating is probably the wrong attitude
01:35 <Avatar> really
01:43 <Steven> its okay, i only say it to the table of people i know wont cheat
01:44 <Avatar> what happened to your if they don't catch you, it's not cheating attitude
02:21 <Steven> but i do usually say roll em out in the open and play fair
02:29 <Steven> to groups that i dont know
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03:40 <Steven> however why would i ever not stir up the forum trolls when i have an opportunity
07:29 Avatar has changed the topic to: PFS: Sun 23rd 9.30am (tier 5-9,Avatar) / Wed 26th 10am (tier 3-7,Mekkis) | WotW: Jan 12th 2pm || All topic times are AEDT (UTC+11:00); set up your timezone on the site for local times in the Schedule! | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au
14:47 <Mekkis> Steven, because you're supposed to be representing paizo...
15:40 <Steven> i wasnt at the time lol
16:39 <Steven> but even so, there's a certain Venture Captain that says the same thing
17:44 <Steven> not walter
20:59 <Steven> ah crap biscuit....
21:05 <Steven> looks like paizo is going down again
21:24 <Avatar> walter is the best thing sinced sliced bread amirite
22:25 <Steven> no, im pretty sure thats peanut butter
26:01 <Avatar> i'm pretty sure that you're pretty sure it's walter
26:35 <Steven> im sure its not walter who said such a thing
32:20 <Steven> he is a bit more strict about cheating than i am.
38:45 <Mekkis> do you actually have people who cheat?
39:37 <Steven> we have had two confirmed cheaters
40:35 <Steven> walter kicked the first guy out
40:53 <Avatar> must be an american thing
42:02 <Steven> and i pulled the second guy out and was like, hey i know whats goin on you need to stop or im going to report it to walter and you saw what he does.
42:35 <Steven> no problems since
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48:33 <Avatar> I'm tellin walter on you !
51:28 <Avatar> you better do what walter says, or you're gonna have to answer to me !
56:02 <Steven> right....
59:03 <Avatar> buy what boon
59:25 <Avatar> kapow: just put it in a text file and it's site compatible
08:45 <Steven> avatar, if you could play any race from the ARG, not an evil race, which one would you play
09:11 <Steven> uhhhhh anyone can jump in on this, i just know avatar responds more than the rest of you
10:07 diebot is now known as Walter
13:15 <Steven> le sigh....
15:07 <Avatar> lol
15:15 <Avatar> sec
15:47 <Avatar> goblin
16:03 <Avatar> or changeling
17:14 <Steven> i like changelings too
23:31 <Avatar> wait, changelings can't actually change shape?
23:54 <Avatar> that is a rather large dealbreaker
23:56 <Steven> no, they can cast disguise self once per day though
24:22 <Avatar> is that the changeling subtype?
24:38 <Avatar> once per day? seriously?
25:08 <Steven> yeah the subtype the race doesnt have it though
25:12 <Mekkis> in 3.5 they had it at-will
25:17 <Steven> the race is kind of bland
33:58 <Mekkis> Svirfneblin is nice
34:20 <Brunius> Aren't they in the bestiary
36:15 <Steven> and evil by in large
37:18 <Steven> at least that i remember
37:33 <Mekkis> really?
37:36 <Mekkis> they weren't in 3.5
38:40 <Steven> well they hang out with the drow... or rather serve them
39:32 <Brunius> The bestiary places them as neutral by default
40:05 <Steven> maybe it was changed for pathfinder
06:36 <Mekkis> Avatar, this boon: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1675907842/pathfinder-online-a-fantasy-sandbox-mmo
06:38 <Mekkis> for $5
07:41 <Steven> this sucks.....
05:44 <Steven> i got all the scenarios added to my downloads
05:58 <Steven> thats not the sucky part
06:08 <Steven> i was out of cheezits
26:30 <Steven> OH MAN! checkin out this chronicle sheet.....
27:01 <Steven> +2 to fort saves..... fuckin ridiculous 
27:43 <Steven> once per day.... activate it to receive temp hp equal to twice your level
28:19 <Steven> holy shit sock of amazing
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