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12:13 <Avatar> yo
12:35 <Avatar> Mekkis_x200: not sure what that is
13:01 <Avatar> how is there 3 of you
19:55 <MekkisScreen> what?
20:12 <MekkisScreen> Mekkis is my bouncer account
20:21 <MekkisScreen> MekkisScreen is my shell account
20:36 <MekkisScreen> Mekkis_x200 is my T61 laptop
20:56 <MekkisScreen> Avatar: Perfection has an amulet of might fists
21:02 <MekkisScreen> it's currently a humanbane one
21:17 <MekkisScreen> but I have enough money to upgrade it to add another effect
21:25 <MekkisScreen> and I'm trying to come up with something good to use
21:30 <MekkisScreen> maybe merciful
22:36 <Brunius> merciful man
22:37 <Brunius> get it
27:35 <Avatar> what does your bouncer account do
27:47 <Brunius> It makes sure people don't bother him
27:52 <Avatar> how
31:26 <MekkisScreen> basically, it stays logged on all the time
31:50 <MekkisScreen> and rather thanpointing xchat at austnet, I point it at the bouncer
32:00 <Avatar> doesn't your shell account do that
32:07 <MekkisScreen> which updates me on what's going on
32:16 <MekkisScreen> no. My shell account I point an ssh client at
32:32 <MekkisScreen> so I can access it over my phone, or at work, or whatever
33:35 <MekkisScreen> I suppose merciful will prevent me from accidentally killing potential stock
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43:30 <Avatar> forget that
43:32 <Avatar> put vicious on it
49:19 <Brunius> Dude
49:23 <Brunius> Merciful is great.
51:17 <Steven> sup sup
57:15 <Avatar> vicious is greater
57:24 <Avatar> +2d6 damage, cmon
57:57 <Avatar> my gun does +2d6 damage, sing it to me
07:10 <Steven> so what it is!
11:54 <MekkisScreen> do you really want to hear me sing?
12:08 <Brunius> Yes.
12:19 <MekkisScreen> Avatar: did you say your gun was vicious?
12:57 <MekkisScreen> !item Amulet of Mighty Fists
13:11 <Avatar> no, it's holy
13:44 <MekkisScreen> hmmm
14:03 <MekkisScreen> did you hear that they reduced the price of amulets of mighty fists?
14:21 <Avatar> I didn't even know what it was until you mentioned it a few hours ago
16:48 <MekkisScreen> they're pretty cool
17:08 <MekkisScreen> another example of an item designed for monks that's much better when used by a non-monk
17:11 <MekkisScreen> :S
17:42 <MekkisScreen> hmmm... how much fame do I need to buy something worth 100000gp?
18:58 <ForevernadeAFK> hi everyone
19:07 <Forevernade> test
19:09 <Forevernade> hi
19:19 <MekkisScreen> hi
19:27 <Forevernade> i am still wanting to run a middle-ages mythology game
19:43 <Forevernade> so if people are interested give me a PM
19:43 <MekkisScreen> I'm going to kill all of you
20:00 <MekkisScreen> what system?
20:11 <Avatar> mythic playtest?
20:11 <Forevernade> what? did I say this at a bad time?
20:22 <Forevernade> it will probably be in Reign system
20:35 <Avatar> over time you will learn mekkis wants to kill all of us
20:37 <Forevernade> seems most suitable for the setting
20:40 <MekkisScreen> haven't heard about it
20:42 <Forevernade> oh ok
20:43 <Forevernade> hi MekkisScreen
20:45 <MekkisScreen> can you give me a link?
22:39 <Forevernade> http://www.rpg.net/reviews/archive/15/15286.phtml
22:43 <Forevernade> i guess this one will do
23:08 <Avatar> send me a book and I'll have a look
23:22 <Forevernade> lol
23:33 <Forevernade> it basically uses the ORE system
23:40 <Avatar> I have no idea what that is
23:40 <Forevernade> where you have dice pools
23:55 <Forevernade> and you pick pairs or tripples or what ever
24:00 <Forevernade> from the dice pool
24:06 <Avatar> d20 4eva
24:19 <Forevernade> the number of matching determines the speed (initiative) of the move, or the efficiency
24:40 <Forevernade> and the height of the number determines the proficiency or the damage of the move
25:08 <Forevernade> there are rules for characters, and rules for companies (masses of people)
25:30 <Forevernade> so the idea is you have a character, but you also have parts where you act as a band of leaders with followers
27:20 <Avatar> it's like everyone has the leadership feat !
33:13 <MekkisScreen> that reminds me
33:38 <MekkisScreen> I'm planning on starting a campaign: either one that I've been working on, Rise of the Runelords, or Way of the Wicked.
34:23 <MekkisScreen> I'll probably run it either Saturday afternoon or Saturday night
36:19 <Avatar> this coming?
36:52 <Avatar> if it's way of the wicked, I'M IN
37:55 <MekkisScreen>  IF we can get a party full by this weekend, I'll start this weekend, but otherwise it'd be best to wait until after Christmas
39:24 <Avatar> decide which one you want to run 
43:11 <MekkisScreen> it depends on who can be canvassed
43:23 <MekkisScreen> Brunius: you interested?
57:23 <Avatar> chip wants in
58:12 <Avatar> Mekkis what's the requirement for character creation
58:15 <Avatar> for way of the wicked
12:23 <Brunius> Probably.
12:41 <Brunius> I won't be aroudn 29th Dec-8th Jan though
17:52 <Steven> so.... i am indeed set to become the new Venture Lieutenant
18:28 <Avatar> sounds like a lot of work
19:29 <Steven> well its certainly not lively
21:47 <Brunius> Thank you for the ongoing commentary, Steven.
22:39 <Avatar> keep it up
22:53 <Steven> thank you
23:06 <Steven> yeah
23:07 <Steven> ill be here all week
23:11 <Steven> but on the plus side
23:22 <Steven> i do get all the scenarios for free
26:59 <Avatar> that is pretty sweet
27:07 <Avatar> how many had you already bought
30:09 <Steven> bout 20
30:36 <Steven> so..... 400+ bucks savings
32:21 <Avatar> will be pretty good to have you GMing more games
33:06 <Steven>  tonight
33:24 <Steven> had a guy charge someon
33:25 <Avatar> now?
33:37 <Steven> rolls a nat 20
33:41 <Steven> confirms on a nat 20]
33:56 <Steven> and then rolls damage and hes like so thats 74 damage
34:02 <Steven> to that guy
34:04 <Steven> and im like yeah it misses
34:22 <Steven> and he throws a mini hissy fit about how it was two nat 20s
34:32 <Steven> and im like, yeah, thats cool
34:54 <Steven> perhaps next time you'll let me control the table and initiate combat with having everyone roll initiative
35:03 <Avatar> haha
35:10 <Steven> as it is your two nat 20s were in a fantasy dream world
35:39 <Steven> and after suitably crushing his spirit
35:59 <Steven> i let him charge in and grab up on that readied action
36:07 <Steven> and 4 AoOs
36:14 <Steven> which dropped his character to -1
36:25 <Steven> and i was like... yeah btw didnt fudge any numbers like i normally do
36:35 <Steven> lesson learned?
36:58 <Steven> and he was like... yeah let the GM talk when i enter a room
37:10 <Steven> I patted him on the head and was like, good boy
38:03 <Steven> walter observing the entire exchange just walks away laughing
38:10 * tashphones pats Steven on the head
38:13 <Mekkis> you normally fudge numbers ?!
38:27 <Steven> yes
38:40 <Mekkis> why?
38:41 <Steven> im a big softy
38:53 <Mekkis> it's people like you who result in harder scenarios for everyone
39:22 <Steven> mekkis while GMing i roll exceptionally well doing usually one or two damage off max damage on every hit i make
39:57 <Mekkis> then there's something wrong with your rolling technique or your dice. That's what should be corrected.
40:39 <Steven> and im allowed to rule my table how i please, which occationally means i roll one or two less damage and keep people at staggard or 1 hp so they get to act instead of me just killing them
40:59 <Steven> or in this case putting them unconcious
42:02 <Steven> as a gm its my job to make sure people have fun, since its a game, and that i have fun too.  I dont have fun dropping a person every round in combat and wiping groups
42:44 <Mekkis> then they meet a GM who doesn't fudge rolls and they don't enjoy it. Neither do the players who are in their party
42:54 <tashphones> !throw 1d20 vs Steven
42:54 <diebot> tashphones, vs Steven: [1d20=1] 1
43:01 <tashphones> O.O
43:45 <Steven> mekkis if you dont like my GMing style you of course never have to sit at a table I GM, but its how i run my tables
44:00 <Steven> I still kill people, i have party wiped
44:04 <Steven> i have failed peoples missions
44:16 <Mekkis> how do you choose when to fudge rolls and when to kill them?
44:46 <Steven> but with all of that, i try to be on the nicer side of GMing to counterbalance bobbies going out of the way to kill people by fudging rolls 
45:53 <Steven> I have a series of conditions that must be met for me to fudge a roll and not kill someone
46:37 <Steven> so.... ~23 ac ranger?
47:07 <Steven> mmmmm pizza
47:09 <Steven> so tasty
47:58 <Mekkis> pizza bribes?
48:21 <Steven> i would so totally let people bribe me with pizza
48:28 <tashphones> I want cheese, garlic, onion and oregano pizza. 
48:38 <Mekkis> sounds good, tashphones 
48:42 <tashphones> Mmmmcravings
48:46 <Steven> +1 circumstance bonus on any skill check
48:49 <Steven> Preggers?
48:58 <tashphones> And jalapeno pepper stuffed with cream cheese and deep fried. 
49:05 <Mekkis> -23?
49:09 <Mekkis> sure
49:12 <Brunius> I'm making cookies!
49:15 <Brunius> They are square!
49:20 <Brunius> They will be iced with 6 dots on top!
49:21 <tashphones> And more beer. And goat. And coconut
49:24 <Steven> epic brunius!
49:25 <Brunius> Only sometimes, it will be a 1!
49:30 <tashphones> Must be preggers 
49:47 <tashphones> Yay bru!
49:50 <tashphones> Pics!
50:06 <Brunius> Haha, pictures.
50:14 <Brunius> Those things are so last century
50:42 <tashphones> Kids of people appreciating them. Shirtless. While shooting a rifle. 
50:48 <tashphones> Vids*
57:20 <Steven> trying to find a way to swing 13 int without dropping a stat
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01:16 <Mekkis> can't be that hard
02:37 <Avatar> what do you mean swing 13 int without dropping a stat
03:01 <Steven> well, gotta have dex, gotta have con, gotta have somekind of str, and some wisdom
03:15 <Steven> and i dont want a score lower than a 10
04:43 <Avatar> jesus
04:47 <Avatar> you're asking a lot there
04:58 <Avatar> so cha 7, int 13
05:15 <Steven> yeah.... not doing a dump stat this time.
05:23 <Avatar> this is the time to do a dump stat
05:43 <Avatar> I'm not saying 7 for fun
05:53 <Avatar> you just want all high stats and that isn't one you mentioned
06:19 <Steven> i think ill drop wis to a 10, and pick up a +2 wis item, dont really need spells with this guy
06:42 <Steven> only way this gonna work
06:49 <Avatar> 12 14 14 13 14 7
06:50 <Avatar> there you go
07:00 <Avatar> thank you I'll be here all week
07:27 <Steven> im thinkin 12/16/16/13/10/10
08:46 <Mekkis> 14/15/14/13/12/12
09:34 <Avatar> is this after race bonuses
10:04 <Steven> yeah my stats after race
10:08 <Avatar> what race
10:13 <Steven> uuuuuman
10:48 <Steven> no spells really that great on ranger tree... i mean theres none that i cant live withhout
12:12 <Mekkis> I have a character with those numbers
37:51 <Steven> maybe dump str all together and pick up weapon finesse...
05:30 <Mekkis> fyi Avatar:
09:01 <Mekkis> Ability scores: 18, 8, 1d10+7, 1d10+7, 1d10+7, 1d10+7. Core races. Any class, antipaladins can be any alignment. +1 skill point per level. No starting equipment. Permitted alignments: LN, LE, NE; LE preferred. One trait. You must choose a crime you've committed and have been convicted of, and have one ambition.
37:13 <Avatar> oooo rolling
51:01 <Steven> suuuuuuuuuuuuuup
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46:45 <Avatar> sup
47:30 <Steven> notta just organizing tonights game
47:39 <Steven> walter wants me to do it cause he has other stuff he needs to do
47:40 <Avatar> sounds pretty sweet
48:24 <Steven> meh... i sent him over a list of games and he keeps sending me back, oh we did that one like 2 weeks back
48:47 <Steven> and im like shit.... okay replace it with this one, and hes like we did that two months back
49:06 <Steven> and im like shit.... okay replace it with this one, and hes like well that one got low reviews
49:16 <Steven> and im like i dont give a shit they gonna play it anyways
49:54 <Steven> now im creating an event on facebook
50:27 <Steven> and then im going to print off a sign up sheet
50:33 <Avatar> forget facebook
50:46 <Steven> i just posted it up, took no time at all
51:34 <Steven> now im going to go make up an event, so i can just hand people an event code
52:30 <Steven> mostly because its SUPER annoying that everyone makes up a different event for each of their sessions
55:20 <Steven> event code recieved
55:41 <Steven> possible games being played
55:42 <Steven> 0-08: Slave Pits of Absalom (1-5)  0-16: To Scale the Dragon (5-9)  1-29: Devil We know Part 1 (1-7)  1-56: The Jester's Fraud (5-9)  2-20: Wrath of the Accursed (7-11)  3-02: Sewer Dragons of Absalom (3-7)  3-06: Song of the Sea Witch (3-7)  4-01: Rise of the Goblin Guild (1-5)  4-10: Feast of Sigils (7-11)
56:37 <Steven> i expect only 3-4 tables
56:48 <Steven> but this way we have choices instead of dictation
57:15 <Steven> i wonder....
57:39 <Steven> since he recently got promoted to Venture Captain if this is his attempt to see how i run things
57:47 <Steven> to perhaps promote me to venture lieutenant...
58:09 <Steven> if so... i shall have to beat him severely...
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51:24 <Steven> suuuuuuuuuuuuuup
47:08 <Avatar> sup
47:52 <Steven> notta just organizing tonights game
48:01 <Steven> walter wants me to do it cause he has other stuff he needs to do
48:02 <Avatar> sounds pretty sweet
48:47 <Steven> meh... i sent him over a list of games and he keeps sending me back, oh we did that one like 2 weeks back
49:10 <Steven> and im like shit.... okay replace it with this one, and hes like we did that two months back
49:28 <Steven> and im like shit.... okay replace it with this one, and hes like well that one got low reviews
49:39 <Steven> and im like i dont give a shit they gonna play it anyways
50:16 <Steven> now im creating an event on facebook
50:50 <Steven> and then im going to print off a sign up sheet
50:55 <Avatar> forget facebook
51:09 <Steven> i just posted it up, took no time at all
51:57 <Steven> now im going to go make up an event, so i can just hand people an event code
52:52 <Steven> mostly because its SUPER annoying that everyone makes up a different event for each of their sessions
55:42 <Steven> event code recieved
56:04 <Steven> possible games being played
56:05 <Steven> 0-08: Slave Pits of Absalom (1-5)  0-16: To Scale the Dragon (5-9)  1-29: Devil We know Part 1 (1-7)  1-56: The Jester's Fraud (5-9)  2-20: Wrath of the Accursed (7-11)  3-02: Sewer Dragons of Absalom (3-7)  3-06: Song of the Sea Witch (3-7)  4-01: Rise of the Goblin Guild (1-5)  4-10: Feast of Sigils (7-11)
56:59 <Steven> i expect only 3-4 tables
57:10 <Steven> but this way we have choices instead of dictation
57:38 <Steven> i wonder....
58:02 <Steven> since he recently got promoted to Venture Captain if this is his attempt to see how i run things
58:10 <Steven> to perhaps promote me to venture lieutenant...
58:31 <Steven> if so... i shall have to beat him severely...
14:36 <nosratheno> it wasnt yesterday was it
15:03 <nosratheno> shit
15:21 <nosratheno> omg
15:51 <nosratheno> well that sucks
15:55 <nosratheno> :/
16:38 <nosratheno> *sigh*
16:44 <nosratheno> sorry about not showing yesterday
16:51 <nosratheno> thought it was today
16:53 <nosratheno> obviously
18:40 <nosratheno> and i was looking forward to it
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30:01 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Sat Dec  8 12:41:18 2012
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30:14 <Steven> so..... 400+ bucks savings
31:59 <Avatar> will be pretty good to have you GMing more games
32:43 <Steven>  tonight
33:01 <Steven> had a guy charge someon
33:02 <Avatar> now?
33:15 <Steven> rolls a nat 20
33:19 <Steven> confirms on a nat 20]
33:33 <Steven> and then rolls damage and hes like so thats 74 damage
33:39 <Steven> to that guy
33:42 <Steven> and im like yeah it misses
34:00 <Steven> and he throws a mini hissy fit about how it was two nat 20s
34:09 <Steven> and im like, yeah, thats cool
34:32 <Steven> perhaps next time you'll let me control the table and initiate combat with having everyone roll initiative
34:41 <Avatar> haha
34:47 <Steven> as it is your two nat 20s were in a fantasy dream world
35:16 <Steven> and after suitably crushing his spirit
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35:36 <Steven> i let him charge in and grab up on that readied action
35:44 <Steven> and 4 AoOs
35:51 <Steven> which dropped his character to -1
36:02 <Steven> and i was like... yeah btw didnt fudge any numbers like i normally do
36:13 <Steven> lesson learned?
36:35 <Steven> and he was like... yeah let the GM talk when i enter a room
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36:48 <Steven> I patted him on the head and was like, good boy
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37:41 <Steven> walter observing the entire exchange just walks away laughing
37:48 * tashphones pats Steven on the head
37:50 <Mekkis> you normally fudge numbers ?!
38:05 <Steven> yes
38:17 <Mekkis> why?
38:18 <Steven> im a big softy
38:30 <Mekkis> it's people like you who result in harder scenarios for everyone
38:59 <Steven> mekkis while GMing i roll exceptionally well doing usually one or two damage off max damage on every hit i make
39:34 <Mekkis> then there's something wrong with your rolling technique or your dice. That's what should be corrected.
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40:17 <Steven> and im allowed to rule my table how i please, which occationally means i roll one or two less damage and keep people at staggard or 1 hp so they get to act instead of me just killing them
40:37 <Steven> or in this case putting them unconcious
41:39 <Steven> as a gm its my job to make sure people have fun, since its a game, and that i have fun too.  I dont have fun dropping a person every round in combat and wiping groups
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42:21 <Mekkis> then they meet a GM who doesn't fudge rolls and they don't enjoy it. Neither do the players who are in their party
42:31 <tashphones> !throw 1d20 vs Steven
42:32 <diebot> tashphones, vs Steven: [1d20=1] 1
42:38 <tashphones> O.O
43:23 <Steven> mekkis if you dont like my GMing style you of course never have to sit at a table I GM, but its how i run my tables
43:37 <Steven> I still kill people, i have party wiped
43:41 <Steven> i have failed peoples missions
43:53 <Mekkis> how do you choose when to fudge rolls and when to kill them?
44:24 <Steven> but with all of that, i try to be on the nicer side of GMing to counterbalance bobbies going out of the way to kill people by fudging rolls 
45:30 <Steven> I have a series of conditions that must be met for me to fudge a roll and not kill someone
46:45 <Steven> mmmmm pizza
46:47 <Steven> so tasty
47:18 <Avatar> caleth didn't show anyway
47:35 <Mekkis> pizza bribes?
47:37 <Avatar> so lucky you for not showing actually
47:59 <Steven> i would so totally let people bribe me with pizza
48:05 <tashphones> I want cheese, garlic, onion and oregano pizza. 
48:10 <nosratheno> oh really ?
48:14 <nosratheno> thank fuck
48:15 <Mekkis> sounds good, tashphones 
48:19 <tashphones> Mmmmcravings
48:24 <Steven> +1 circumstance bonus on any skill check
48:27 <Steven> Preggers?
48:36 <tashphones> And jalapeno pepper stuffed with cream cheese and deep fried. 
48:43 <nosratheno> i was pretty pissed
48:49 <Brunius> I'm making cookies!
48:52 <Brunius> They are square!
48:58 <Brunius> They will be iced with 6 dots on top!
48:58 <tashphones> And more beer. And goat. And coconut
49:01 <Steven> epic brunius!
49:02 <Brunius> Only sometimes, it will be a 1!
49:07 <tashphones> Must be preggers 
49:17 <Avatar> yeah so were we
49:24 <tashphones> Yay bru!
49:27 <tashphones> Pics!
49:35 <nosratheno> i can imagine
49:43 <Brunius> Haha, pictures.
49:51 <Brunius> Those things are so last century
50:19 <tashphones> Kids of people appreciating them. Shirtless. While shooting a rifle. 
50:25 <tashphones> Vids*
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57:26 <nosratheno> well if he shows up today....i guess i couldnt fault him anymore than myself.
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52:52 <Caleth> morning, everyone
52:54 <nosratheno> well hello
53:08 <nosratheno> im about the only one who will be happy to see you :P
53:25 <nosratheno> game was yesterday though i thought it was today
54:22 <Caleth> shit, I obviously thought it was today too
54:26 <nosratheno> yep
54:35 <Caleth> thus me being here now
54:40 <nosratheno> and me also
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54:46 <nosratheno> about an hour earlier
55:31 <Ballig> do you guys think it would help if the website emailed you the day before a game
55:59 <nosratheno> well I suppose it would have been informative
56:08 <nosratheno> seeing as i forgot
56:10 <Caleth> that would have helped me remember that I was wrong about he day
56:32 <Ballig> I'll look at what I can do
56:36 <Ballig> it has happened before
56:47 <nosratheno> of course nothign beats vigilant players
56:53 <Ballig> anything that limits the number of cancelled games because people forgot they were playing would be good
57:35 <Caleth> sorry about that.  I remembered the right time, but not the day
58:05 <nosratheno> can we ring the others and drag 'em here ?
00:15 <nosratheno> i guess it would be asking much
00:19 <nosratheno> oh well
00:38 <Caleth> looks like mos everyone is off line
00:49 <nosratheno> and fair enough
05:07 <Mekkis> fyi Avatar:
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08:37 <Mekkis> Ability scores: 18, 8, 1d10+7, 1d10+7, 1d10+7, 1d10+7. Core races. Any class, antipaladins can be any alignment. +1 skill point per level. No starting equipment. Permitted alignments: LN, LE, NE; LE preferred. One trait. You must choose a crime you've committed and have been convicted of, and have one ambition.
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37:05 <MekkisScreen> what should I get as an additional effect on Perfection's Amulet of Mighty Fists
37:06 <MekkisScreen> ?
38:06 <***> Buffer Playback...
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38:31 <Mekkis> oh, and Avatar: could you look at my resignation letter?
10:48 <Avatar> gained 
11:57 <Mekkis> ?
12:07 <Avatar> gained invaluable insight
12:21 <Avatar> that last line doesn't make sense
12:36 <Avatar> I'm not even sure what you're trying to say
13:04 <Avatar> all the best for the company to expand
13:12 <Mekkis> pretty much
14:03 <Avatar> make it a personal note to the guy you're writing it to instead maybe, and the best for him with the company
14:17 <Avatar> the rest is fine really
14:23 <Avatar> you don't have to worry too much about a resignation letter
14:43 <Avatar> at least you didn't add hey "oh yeah, by the way, up yours !"
14:47 <Avatar> so really it's fine
15:04 <Mekkis> cool
21:06 chip is now known as boris
39:14 <Brunius> I won't be back until Friday
39:18 <Brunius> Later guys.
39:25 Brunius has quit (Quit: Leaving)
42:23 <Avatar> :(((
25:20 <Mekkis> kapow got bitten by a zombie last weekend
53:30 <Avatar> or so he claims
54:09 <Mekkis> I saw the bites
54:24 <Mekkis> the local VC arranged it!
55:17 <Avatar> or so you claim
55:33 <Mekkis> he was on the radio today about it
04:06 <Mekkis> Bah! Your use of trickery is cheap and despicable. It doesn't even deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as our use of it.
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