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05:14:42 <ssdoug> hello?
05:16:05 <ssdoug> is anyone there?
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05:16:43 <ssdoug> hello
05:17:48 <ssdoug> my sound does not seem to be working.....
05:21:29 <ssdoug> i cant hear anyone so i guess ill leave for now
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06:40:57 <Avatar> war Z looks pretty good
07:09:53 <Avatar> I could run another game on friday night
07:56:12 <Brunius> Don't get it
07:56:20 <Brunius> Every report I've heard says that it's terrible
07:57:13 <Brunius> To sum up what I've heard
07:57:17 <Brunius> >Terrible movement system
07:57:21 <Brunius> >Terrible community
07:57:42 <Brunius> >Half of the promised features not implemented
07:57:49 <Brunius> >Buggy as all hell
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08:34:46 <Steven> what up
08:34:59 <Steven> So....... guess whos a VL.
08:35:45 <Steven> I will be lording this over everyone for the next.... twenty or so minutes
08:35:53 <Steven> and then my head will stop swelling
08:37:25 <Brunius> Didn't you tell us this like a week ago
08:37:52 <Brunius> Does this mean we can go to you with all our rules questions, instead of bugging Darkwhite
08:39:30 <Steven> i said i was up for it, but now its official
08:39:41 <Steven> just got the word from mike brock
08:40:09 <Steven> you could bug me
08:40:15 <Steven> doesnt mean ill answer
08:40:18 <Steven> but you could bug me
09:02:55 <kapow> mooo
09:03:10 <Steven> cow?
09:09:27 <kapow> woof
09:10:17 <Steven> ...
09:23:37 <Steven> ahhhhhhhhhh relaxing out to the max
09:53:36 <MekkisScreen> congrats Steven
09:53:51 <Steven> thanks mekkis
09:53:57 <MekkisScreen> so, what is the carrying capacity of a young giant spider with a str of 20
09:54:46 <Steven> i gave my opinion on it yesterday, calculate it as a quadruped until you get an official response from the development staff at paizo. so 1.5x the str of a biped
09:55:02 <Steven> not str, but carrying capacity
09:55:11 <MekkisScreen> if a four-armed character is wielding two greatswords, how much damage does the second greatsword do?
09:55:36 <Steven> ............. you're just going to pester me aren't you?
09:56:14 <MekkisScreen> What sort of action is required to put an amulet on an eidolon?
09:56:44 <Steven> yup.... just gonna pester me
09:56:53 <MekkisScreen> don't worry..
09:56:57 <MekkisScreen> I won't
09:57:03 <Steven> luckily... well its a mixed bag really... i gotta go pick up some medications
09:57:25 <MekkisScreen> that reminds me: I've been meaning to kick the wasp's nest on the forums
09:58:15 <Steven> why would you do something like that? the morons there never stop debating shit once you let them start
09:58:54 <MekkisScreen> I want to ask about the rationale behind only giving GMs credit the first time they run a scenario
09:59:38 <MekkisScreen> I just know that that would result in a hell of a lot of posts that are rathe unrelated
10:00:18 <Steven> yeah... and the reason is probably because a person could find a REALLY fast scenario, like you only die twice
10:00:50 <MekkisScreen> or first steps 1?
10:01:06 <Steven> and run it repeatedly and level up several characters in rapid succession with decent gold gain.
10:01:21 <Steven> first steps 1 is only with first level characters
10:01:42 <MekkisScreen> if you limit it to one chronicle sheet per scenario per character, that doesn't really affect it
10:02:11 <Steven> yes, but if you have 5 characters all level 7 and one scenario has a really bad ass boon
10:02:13 <MekkisScreen> I just don't think it's a good idea to encourage GMs not to rerun scenarios
10:02:25 <Steven> like say.... feast of sigils
10:02:38 <Steven> which i will gladly run for you guys sometime soon
10:03:17 <Steven> it would allow a GM to get a crazy boon on all of his characters
10:03:31 <MekkisScreen> is that really a problem?
10:03:43 <Steven> with the boon im thinking of.... yes
10:03:48 <Steven> it would be a problem
10:04:34 <Steven> hmmmmm it says my nickname isnt registered
10:05:43 <MekkisScreen> yeah, but if the GM wanted to get sheets for his 4 characters he'd still need to find 16 players who hadn't played the scenario
10:06:09 <Steven> with google groups, or a playgroup as large as mine, that would not be overly difficult
10:06:59 <MekkisScreen> not if a significant number of people want to do the same thing
10:08:10 <Steven> check your messages.
10:14:21 <Steven> alright, goin to the pharmacy
10:14:27 <Steven> see you guys in bout half an hour.
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11:57:45 <kapow> yay server splits
11:59:34 <Steven> back
11:59:37 <Steven> that was a pain in the ass
12:15:04 <MekkisScreen> what happen?
12:15:19 <Steven> computer system went down at the pharmacy
12:15:29 <Steven> and it took them... what like an hour to bring it back up?
12:15:37 <MekkisScreen> hopefully it wasn't one of my clients
12:16:01 <MekkisScreen> what POS system were they running?
12:16:09 <Steven> i dont know
12:16:16 <Steven> they wouldnt let me go behind the counter and fix it or them
12:16:18 <Steven> for them even
12:17:39 <MekkisScreen> I feel that I haven't been running many sessions recently
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12:22:02 <Steven> run Feast of sigils
12:22:02 <Steven> lol
12:42:26 <MekkisScreen> I haven't played it yet
12:42:38 <MekkisScreen> I'll run Cult of Ebon Destroyers
12:43:47 <Steven> thats a module
12:45:01 <MekkisScreen> yes, it is
12:45:29 <MekkisScreen> I've been trying to run Sanos Abduction and In Wrath's shadow
13:13:26 <Steven> imma look to creating my own race
13:14:32 <Steven> lets see how i do
13:17:21 <MekkisScreen> cast the spell Origin of Species!
13:19:30 <Steven> hardest part is naming the damn race
13:24:10 <Steven> well.... Aberration Fey....
13:24:17 <Steven> is its type
13:24:48 <Steven> i dont know if i add the RP costs together or what...
13:24:52 <Steven> think i add them
13:45:10 <Steven> so.... many..... options
14:10:11 <MekkisScreen> I can't see myself doing anything like that
14:13:06 <Steven> Standard Racial Traits: +2Str +2Dex -2 Wis
14:13:33 <Steven> Size: Medium Type: Humanoid Aberration Base Speed: 30ft
14:13:44 <Steven> Launguages: Common and Racial, If int high enough +Sylvaan, Gnomish, Undercommon, Abyssal, Draconic, Dwarven, Aklo
14:14:07 <Steven> Racial Traits Long Arms Once per day as a swift action a <Racial Name> can increase its reach by 5ft for one round. While using Long arms it incurs a -2 AC penalty until the start of its next turn. This effect can be stacked with Feats and abilities that increase reach like lunge but the AC penalty stacks.
14:14:53 <Steven> Thick Skinned. Natural Armor +1
14:15:16 <MekkisScreen> Steven: seems broken
14:15:40 <Steven> the long arms is only supposed to be on Large creatures
14:16:01 <Steven> but just a flat +5 reach
14:16:21 <Steven> so i made it cost double and act as per reach and eat an action to use
14:16:37 <Steven> act as lunge even
14:17:32 <Steven> might take it down to "increase its reach by 5ft for one attack action"
14:18:29 <MekkisScreen> there are no core races that have + to two physical stats, right?
14:20:19 <Steven> Specialized (1 RP): Pick either mental or physical ability scores. Members of this race gain a +2 bonus to two ability scores of the chosen type, and a –2 penalty to one ability score of the other type.
14:21:07 <Steven> and no, not that im aware of
15:00:46 <MekkisScreen> the hard part is coming up with the background flavour
15:01:25 <Steven> for me the racial name would be tougher
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15:40:27 <MekkisScreen> the name's part of the flavour, right?
15:40:32 <Avatar-> andchat got a pretty nifty visual update
15:40:43 <MekkisScreen> oh no
15:41:16 MekkisScreen is now known as Aviator
15:41:21 <Avatar-> got a date/time mekkis
15:41:24 <Avatar-> ?
15:41:32 <Aviator> Wed Dec 19 00:41:54 EST 2012
15:41:45 <Avatar-> No, for the game
15:41:52 <Avatar-> wotw
15:42:00 <Aviator> so 23rd is no go
15:42:05 <Aviator> 24th is also off
15:42:18 <Aviator> then Brunius is away until the 5th
15:42:42 <Brunius> until like the 8th
15:42:47 <Avatar-> what day is the 5th
15:42:58 <Avatar-> ok
15:43:07 <Avatar-> so the 12th?
15:43:32 <Aviator> so really, I can do the first session on the 12th, if you don't mind a three week gap before the second session
15:43:44 <Aviator> MekkisScreen
15:43:47 <Avatar-> I don't think we have a choice
15:43:49 Aviator is now known as MekkisScreen
15:44:00 <MekkisScreen> we can delay the start until the 2nd
15:44:02 <Brunius> There's always a hoice Avatar-
15:44:08 <Avatar-> we're quite inflexible over xmas
15:44:09 <Brunius> choice even
15:44:26 <Avatar-> ok don't be away then
15:44:44 <Avatar-> we'll play on like the 2nd ok
15:46:06 <Avatar-> ok brunius
15:46:21 <Avatar-> there's always a choice after all
15:46:40 <Avatar-> are you still there
15:48:52 <Brunius> It's not my choice whether I'm away.
15:48:57 <Brunius> There's a choice, but it's not mine.
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15:50:12 <MekkisScreen> I'm in favour of afternoon sessions, rather than evening sessions. What say you?
15:50:17 <MekkisScreen> Start at around 1pm AEDT
15:50:29 <MekkisScreen> maybe 2pm
15:52:38 <Brunius> That timeslot sounds good to me
16:08:40 <Avatar_> afternoon is cool
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16:09:22 <Avatar> jan 12th 2pm?
16:09:41 <Avatar> will steven be sleeping
16:09:54 <Avatar> I have no idea what his patterns are like
16:09:58 <Avatar> he seems to be awake when we are
16:10:12 <Steven> I AM ALWAYS AWAKE
16:10:15 <Steven> except when im sleeping
16:11:02 <Avatar> does 2pm local time work for you
16:11:43 <Brunius> Steven: Why did you check out a gaming store in russia
16:11:50 <Steven> that would be 7pm here
16:12:23 <Steven> yeah...... should work
16:16:09 <Avatar> alright let's lock it in aye
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16:19:08 <Avatar> brunius have you seen war Z
16:19:13 <Brunius> Yes.
16:19:18 <Avatar> know if it's any good?
16:19:29 <Brunius> Let me post you the rant one of my friends put on facebook
16:21:23 <Brunius> http://pastebin.com/bW0vJaH3
16:22:29 <Brunius> tl;dr: No.
16:23:11 <Avatar> ouch
16:30:34 <MekkisScreen> lucky I don't buy games on steam
16:30:46 <Brunius> There's a non-steam release too
16:32:59 <Avatar> maybe you should get that one mekkis
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16:41:12 <MekkisScreen> maybe I should instead spend the money on Pathfinder PDFs...
16:43:45 <MekkisScreen> hmmm
16:43:57 <MekkisScreen> Avatar: I can'ty seem to accept the Jester's Fraud
16:44:05 <MekkisScreen> can you accept for me?
16:44:17 <MekkisScreen> {7,8,8}
16:51:44 <Avatar> no I can't
16:51:47 <Avatar> what is it doing when you try
16:52:07 <Avatar> it looks like it worked
17:02:18 <MekkisScreen> it didn't let me click accept in konqueror
17:02:35 <MekkisScreen> I found another browser and it worked
17:02:41 <Brunius> good oly konqueror
17:02:48 <Brunius> man, why can't I type today
17:02:48 <MekkisScreen> where is Jester's Fraud set
17:02:58 <MekkisScreen> Brunius: actually konqueror for kde 3.5
17:03:06 <Brunius> yay 3.5!
17:03:44 <MekkisScreen> I should give KDE4 another chance
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17:16:40 <MekkisScreen> ShouId I meet an untimely demise...
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18:08:40 <Avatar> duelling is a pretty sexy weapon effect
18:08:51 <Avatar> gives you +4 to initiative while the weapon is in hand at the start of combat
18:08:56 <Avatar> among other useful things
18:08:59 <Avatar> +14000gp
18:11:39 <Avatar> grayflame is pretty sexy, spend channels to add that as damage into a hit
18:11:44 <Avatar> for only a +1 bonus cost
18:11:50 <Brunius> Source?
18:12:01 <Avatar> UE
18:12:12 <Brunius> Yet another hardcover I should get.
18:12:36 <Brunius> (How many CR of monsters should face a 4-player level 1 party? 1?)
18:13:08 <Avatar> yeah 1
18:13:16 <Brunius> 6 player?
18:13:35 <Avatar> can't remember the rule for more than 4 people
18:16:08 <Brunius> I will check my copy of the bestiary
18:19:10 <Avatar> lucky lets you reroll a misfire whenever you spend a grit point
18:19:19 <Avatar> that is super hot
18:19:21 <Avatar> +1 bonus
18:20:22 <Avatar> that may be once per day
18:24:15 <Brunius> Note that these encounter creation guidelines assume a group of four or five PCs. If your group contains six or more players, add one to their average level. If your group contains three or fewer players, subtract one from their average level.
18:24:42 <Brunius> What does that even mean
18:24:51 <Brunius> When will you spend a grit point if you're not clearing a misfire
18:25:07 <Brunius> or does it let you spend a grit point to reroll a misfire
18:25:37 <Avatar> so the APL for 6 1st level players is 2
18:25:52 <Brunius> No, not what does that mean
18:25:54 <Brunius> lucky
18:25:56 <Avatar> you spend grit point to do things like shoot outside the first range increment
18:26:04 <Avatar> there are a bunch of things gunslingers can do with grit
18:26:24 <Avatar> quick clearing is the most common so you can shoot more
18:26:46 <Avatar> I actually forgot you could regain grit by landing a killing blow or landing a crit
18:26:49 <Avatar> until the last game I played
18:27:04 <Avatar> because I'd never almost run out of grit before
18:27:06 <Brunius> I know you did it at least once
18:27:14 <Brunius> While I was at the table
18:27:16 <Avatar> did what at least once
18:27:17 <Brunius> Back at level 3 or so
18:27:23 <Brunius> regained grit that way
18:27:33 <Avatar> must've been a while ago
18:27:53 <Brunius> You bugged us not to kill the guy while he was close to death so you could regain the grit
18:28:27 <Avatar> haha I don't even remember that
18:29:11 <Avatar> here we go, determination
18:29:24 <Avatar> armor effect that automatically puts breath of life on you once per day when you drop
18:29:31 <Avatar> +30000gp
18:29:39 <Avatar> that one might be saving up for
18:29:44 <Avatar> might be worth* saving up for
18:32:08 <Avatar> a +3 bonus on armor is only 9000gp isn't it
18:32:22 <Brunius> I think so
18:32:28 <Brunius> Yeah, it is
18:32:30 <Avatar> but +1 needs to be on it first
18:32:33 <Avatar> so 16000gp
18:32:48 <Avatar> damage reduction 5/magic costs 16000gp
18:34:50 <Brunius> how many will have magic at higher levels
18:40:56 <Avatar> magic attacks? few
18:52:36 <Brunius> isn't /magic bypassed by any magic weapon
18:52:48 <Avatar> yeah
18:53:13 <Avatar> a lot of bad guys just use natural attacks
18:55:03 <Avatar> +2250gp to get +3 on saves vs poison is decent
18:55:19 <Brunius> I haven't seen much poison used so far
18:55:24 <Avatar> I wonder if that stacks with antitoxin
18:55:36 <Avatar> the armor is a resistance bonus
18:55:48 <Brunius> what type of save is it
18:56:01 <Avatar> on any save vs poison
18:56:11 <Brunius> yeah, but what type of bonus is it
18:56:15 <Brunius> antitoxin is alchemical
18:56:21 <Brunius> So if it's not alchemical it stacks
18:56:34 <Avatar> nice
18:56:44 <Avatar> that is incredibly good
18:56:54 <Avatar> makes a periapt of proof against poison much less valuable
18:57:20 <Avatar> @ 27000gp
19:28:34 <Brunius> Avatar, TotalBiscuit has a WarZ / BoreZ review out
19:28:44 <Avatar> ooo sweet
19:28:46 <Avatar> link
19:29:05 <Brunius> www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtKAm3nzg6I
19:38:01 <Brunius> ha, 12min
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20:31:07 <Avatar> totalbiscuit doesn't like warz very much
20:33:53 <Brunius> I noticed
20:33:57 <Brunius> He didn't find a single firearm
20:35:30 <Brunius> 9:34 PM - Brunius: totalbiscuit did a review
20:35:31 <Brunius> 9:34 PM - Brunius: in 42 minutes, he didn't find a single firearm
20:35:31 <Brunius> 9:34 PM - Brunius: Is that normal?
20:35:32 <Brunius> 9:34 PM - ARC: found heaps... an aa12 m16 m9 pistol and a 2 .22 pistols
20:35:32 <Brunius> 9:35 PM - Brunius: in how long?
20:35:32 <Brunius> 9:35 PM - ARC: within an hour
20:43:59 <kapow> totalbiscuit is awesome ^_^
20:54:44 <kapow> a review of warz
20:54:56 <kapow> I'm a dayz person haven't played warz yet
20:55:29 <Avatar> apparently you shouldn't go near it
20:57:28 <kapow> see i like really fucking hard games
20:57:49 <kapow> so if it's that stupidly hard then i am totall in with 2 feet
20:57:50 <Brunius> are you free friday kapow
20:58:15 <kapow> what for?
20:58:18 <kapow> and probably not
20:58:24 <kapow> considering i have to drive 4 hours home
20:58:26 <kapow> and then have fmn
20:58:28 <Brunius> 12-12 dayz
20:58:41 <kapow> yeah negative unfortunetely
20:59:12 <kapow> I would be totally down otherwise
20:59:47 <Avatar> I'm off work early friday
20:59:56 <Avatar> friday is a dumb day to have it
21:00:09 <Avatar> a lot of people have that as their last day at work
21:00:42 <Brunius> it's the 21st, and most of us are off school already
21:01:21 <kapow> yeah my friday saturday is kinda tied up
21:01:29 <kapow> fmn friday night and driving home from bundaberg
21:01:35 <kapow> then ts draft with mekk on saturday
21:02:06 <kapow> brb my turn on guitar hero
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21:11:26 <kapow> I won ^_^
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22:28:32 <Brunius> How do I herd the party where I want them to go?
22:28:45 <Brunius> I mean, they're on this big ol' world that seems like anything can happen
22:28:52 <Brunius> But I've got this plot that might be cool
22:29:08 <Brunius> Do I go with the direction they want, then morph my stuff around that?
22:29:23 <Brunius> Or do I drop heavy hints that HEY, there's a lot of treasure here
22:29:28 <Brunius> Maybe you should check it out
22:45:38 <Mekkis> Brunius, send a sphere of annihilation at them
22:48:14 <Brunius> Seems a little overkill for a level 1 party
22:53:14 <Mekkis> that's why I like getting an idea about what the character's motivations and ambitions are
22:56:05 <Mekkis> Brunius, were you born after 1994?
22:56:14 <Brunius> 1996
22:56:18 <Mekkis> pity
22:56:29 <kapow> drinks?
22:56:39 <kapow> thats the 18 cut off at the moment
22:56:45 <kapow> are we all getting drunk ^_^?
22:56:49 <Mekkis> nah, he wanted a bank account
22:57:08 <kapow> eh
22:57:18 <kapow> I opened my bank account when i was 14
22:57:46 <kapow> how was pathfinder btw tonight mek
22:57:47 <Mekkis> that allowed him to make internet transfers
22:57:50 <Mekkis> pretty good
22:57:58 <Mekkis> We finished Season 3
22:58:17 <kapow> sweet
22:58:59 <Mekkis> ING has a promotion where they give you money