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// #d&d — 2012-12-20

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00:00:22 <kapow> for what?
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02:36:34 <Steven> brunius i dont know why it would show me checking out of a store in russia
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02:53:50 <Steven> hey mekkis could one play a teifling in WotW?
02:59:26 <Steven> if not then i already have another race picked out
03:27:14 <Steven> !throw 4d10
03:27:14 <diebot> Steven, 4d10: [4d10=4,5,6,6] 21
03:27:39 <Steven> well i have seen worse rolls for a char
03:36:49 <Steven> cannot decide where to put my 2 racial into
03:37:12 <Steven> having these stats has changed the character.... mostly the 11str i was hoping for a bit more
03:57:10 <Steven> oh wells
04:00:21 <Steven> mekkis..... i found the race i want my backup character to be. A fetchling
04:00:25 <Steven> now tells me yes!
04:04:50 <Steven> i was hoping to build a switch hitter kind of character, but 11 str just says no.
04:04:58 <Steven> well 12 con doesnt help much either
04:05:07 <Steven> but that can be gotten around
05:34:14 <Steven> If mekkis lets me have Fetchling... stats of 11/20/12/13/11/10
05:35:23 <Avatar> Steven: you said 2pm local time would be ok
05:35:50 <Avatar> check your timezone is set right on the site
05:37:55 <Steven> yeah.... its right.
05:39:02 <Steven> lolz... i was looking at end time...
05:39:11 <Steven> guess thats what i get for saying yes when i just woke up
05:46:14 <Avatar> good 1
05:46:25 <Avatar> I have no idea about when mekkis wants to end it
05:46:51 <Steven> i hope mekkis lets me have a fetchling for my backup character
06:54:53 <Steven> !throw 2d6
06:54:54 <diebot> Steven, 2d6: [2d6=5,2] 7
07:02:11 <Steven> !throw 2d6
07:02:11 <diebot> Steven, 2d6: [2d6=5,5] 10
07:06:20 <Avatar> what are you rolling
07:08:13 <Steven> height and weignt
07:08:37 <Steven> 5-11 120lbs
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10:46:36 <Steven> http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2paos?New-VL-for-Eastern-WA#3
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14:44:45 <MekkisScreen> who's up for a Boxing day game?
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16:05:44 <Keepiru> Hey Ballig, looking for players, DM for pathfinder in the Melbourne region. Got this address from Dungeon of Magic. I live in Williamstown , can travel, email is [email protected]
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16:08:57 <Brunius> Why do I suddenly have to connect to everything by IP
16:09:41 <Ballig> sounds like you're having issues with your DNS servers
16:09:51 <Brunius> It's only this computer, for some reason
16:09:56 <Brunius> All the other ones on the network are fine
16:12:29 <Avatar> paizo.com down?
16:12:46 <Ballig> Keepiru: ever tried playing online?
16:13:06 <Avatar> today went quite slowly thanks to that
16:13:07 <Avatar> I thought I got blocked
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16:13:51 <Avatar> I have no idea who keepiru might be
16:14:02 <Brunius> did you whois him
16:14:08 <Avatar> I barely knew he was here
16:14:29 <Avatar> how come he was chasing ballig
16:14:37 <Ballig> why wouldn't he
16:14:45 <Avatar> you're not special as the rest of us
16:15:10 <Brunius> Maybe he wanted to take your job
16:15:10 <Ballig> I would say I'm more special
16:15:19 <Avatar> don't know about that
16:15:23 <Ballig> [5:05:38 PM] <Keepiru> Hey Ballig, looking for players, DM for pathfinder in the Melbourne region. Got this address from Dungeon of Magic. I live in Williamstown , can travel, email is [email protected]
16:15:26 <Ballig> you missed that I think Brunius
16:15:41 <Avatar> yeah that is kind of important
16:16:20 <Avatar> Mekkis: I only invited the 4 of us to that schedule, I'm not sure if you want a mass mail sent out
16:16:30 <Avatar> could invite unreliables into it
16:17:01 <Avatar> ballig I was just joshin you are OK
16:17:06 <Avatar> I don't want to hurt your feelings
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17:08:59 <MekkisScreen> Brunius: your DNS entry is wrong :S
17:09:08 <Brunius> Elaborate?
17:09:12 <MekkisScreen> cat /etc/resolv.conf
17:09:15 <MekkisScreen> what's in there
17:09:25 <Brunius> I have no clue.
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17:09:43 <MekkisScreen> using xchat?
17:09:50 <Brunius> yes
17:10:01 <MekkisScreen> open a dialog window with me
17:10:09 <MekkisScreen> and type /exec -o cat /etc/resolv.conf
17:10:23 <Brunius> No such file
17:10:45 <MekkisScreen> oh
17:10:55 <MekkisScreen> I thought you were on linux
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17:24:48 <MekkisScreen> !throw 1d20
17:24:49 <diebot> MekkisScreen, 1d20: [1d20=4] 4
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17:40:19 <Steven> well..... paizo is down
17:40:28 <Steven> and now i have no place to troll
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17:44:52 <Avatar> yeah this is the end
17:46:03 <Steven> fo sho
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18:05:14 <Avatar> there's this new thing on linkedin
18:05:23 <Avatar> where you can endorse skills people have set for themselves
18:05:35 <Avatar> it is a bit like doing those quizzes, except for people you know
18:05:51 <Avatar> there's one asking if my old IT manager knows about Windows?
18:05:56 <Avatar> the answer is no
18:06:24 <Avatar> they had trouble understanding someone telling them an audio driver had to be installed to stop a dialog bugging them to install it, and needed a screenshot
18:07:31 <Brunius> what is linkedin
18:08:48 <Steven> so i got access to the developer forums today
18:08:55 <Steven> it was pretty sweet until the website crashed
18:09:42 <Brunius> and you suggested that character 22870-5 be bumped to level 7, 22871-1 be brought back from the dead, and 22876-1 be changed to a paladin?
18:10:15 <Steven> i know not of which you speak
18:12:11 <Avatar> Brunius: social network for jobseekers
18:12:42 <Steven> since my chat closed when my computer battery got low
18:12:56 <Steven> did mekkis say whether or not he would allow a fetchling?
18:13:13 <Avatar> of my dead characters, Roger is the one you want brought back from the dead?
18:13:14 <Brunius> Not that I recall
18:13:21 <Brunius> Roger is the one that I remember
18:13:23 <Brunius> Who else is dead
18:13:28 <Avatar> Mellon and Snake
18:13:38 <Brunius> Wasn't snake a synthesist
18:13:39 <Avatar> wizard and summoner respectively
18:13:45 <Avatar> yeah I had a synthesist
18:13:59 <Steven> i gave somebody a 'free' raise today
18:14:01 <Steven> cause i felt bad
18:14:07 <Avatar> why
18:14:09 <Avatar> you can't do that
18:14:11 <Brunius> You should raise roger
18:14:12 <Avatar> I want a free raise too
18:14:12 <Steven> a level 1 w/ 1 exp playing in a 3-4 game
18:14:18 <Avatar> raise Snake or Mellon
18:14:26 <Brunius> Was it their only choice?
18:14:26 <Avatar> so what !
18:14:39 <Brunius> Was it their choice to go in the game, or was everyone pressuring them
18:14:45 <Brunius> because peer group pressure is bad juju man
18:14:51 <Avatar> they would've had to meet the APL most likely
18:14:59 <Avatar> not hard to do that with 3-4
18:15:03 <Steven> one person decided to play their level 5
18:15:09 <Avatar> but you still can't give them free raises, otherwise everyone should get free raises
18:15:15 <Steven> instead of playing their level 2
18:15:26 <Brunius> Yeah, rules seem to get bent a bit more over there
18:15:34 <Brunius> Maybe being so far from the mothership has made us hard
18:16:05 <Avatar> darkwhite is pretty harsh with his rulings
18:16:11 <Avatar> he usually tries to take a harsh but fair approach
18:16:26 <Avatar> not criminally harsh
18:16:47 <Avatar> but he's in favour of die when we're talking about don't save the player from save or dies with cheap creative solutions
18:16:48 <Steven> yeah walter was like, kill him his fault for playing in this game, and i was like your fault for bumping table from 1-2 teir to a 3-4 teir
18:17:07 <Steven> and he was like.... well..... so
18:17:15 <Steven> and i was like evens or odds, and rolled a dice
18:17:33 <Avatar> ask mike brock if you can roll a dice
18:17:36 <Steven> i made him pay for a restoration to remove the negative level
18:17:37 <Avatar> I bet the answer is no, $10
18:18:10 <Steven> I bet i could have just as easily lied about the damage and put him at 1 less from total death and stable
18:18:18 <Avatar> I'd actually like to be more lenient like that but the reality of the campaign is that you can't if you're playing fair
18:18:27 <Steven> but considering it was the guys second ever game
18:18:33 <Steven> i dont want to fuck the guy over
18:19:01 <Steven> i like to break them in a little slower than that
18:19:12 <Avatar> how much exp did he have
18:19:21 <Steven> 1 xp
18:19:29 <Avatar> that's how much my first character had when mekkis killed me
18:19:37 <Avatar> in darkest vengeance
18:19:41 <Avatar> can I get a free raise
18:19:50 <Steven> if he wanted to give you one
18:20:03 <Avatar> it's the same campaign
18:20:07 <Avatar> if your guy gets one, I should too
18:20:19 <Steven> yeah, if your GM wants to give you one, so be it
18:20:31 <Avatar> that's cheating man
18:20:36 <Avatar> I don't want a raise
18:20:38 <Avatar> I have 11 characters now
18:20:46 <Avatar> you should've let him stay dead
18:20:47 <Steven> me too, high fives!
18:20:51 <Avatar> he will make do without 1 exp
18:20:54 <Avatar> just like I did
18:21:33 * Steven shrugs
18:28:06 <Brunius> Fuckin' Darkest Vengeance man
18:28:10 <Brunius> You going to arc?
18:28:20 <Steven> I just went and checked the stat block, and actually I screwed up, he didn't die.
18:28:27 * Steven facepalms
18:28:38 <Brunius> ain't that convienient
18:28:58 <Steven> no, its really not
18:29:00 <Steven> its bad
18:29:45 <Steven> they put the 3-4 teir and the 6-7 teir on the same page for the badie
18:30:00 <Brunius> I hate it when they do that
18:30:15 <Steven> yeah, its like -11 damage to the crit attack
18:30:47 <Steven> 12 even
18:32:50 <Steven> now i gotta email him and tell him im a twat
18:36:59 <Steven> god.... i hate doing this
18:44:02 <Avatar> tell him the way you saved his life was actually legitimate
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18:44:41 <Steven> nah, ill just tell him i sucked a fat one, and appologized
18:44:53 <Steven> apologize
18:48:21 <Steven> anyways, i think imma GM a game in here sometime soon.
18:48:38 <Brunius> surely you jest
18:49:19 <Steven> yeah.... and im gonna fuck up so much and cover it with odd rulings
18:49:44 <Brunius> sweet
18:49:49 <Brunius> then we will have a precedent
18:50:20 <Brunius> And we'll be like "But the VL from 'murica said it was ok!"
18:50:34 <Steven> yeah
18:50:43 <Steven> table variance is a bitch
18:50:53 <Steven> ide love to see avatar play at my friend andrews table
18:50:59 <Steven> if he doesnt know something, it makes it up
18:51:38 <Avatar> every GM fucks up and tries their best to cover it up :P
18:52:58 <Steven> yeah... so long as i dont turn into a bobby
18:53:17 <Steven> who changes rules to get kill counts im fine with whatever i do
18:53:54 <Brunius> That's just stupid
18:53:57 <Brunius> Why would you do that
18:54:19 <Avatar> there really needs to be a proper guide in good GMing
18:54:21 <Steven> cause thats how he has fun
18:54:37 <Avatar> some people think it's me vs the players rather than make it fun for the players
18:54:38 <Brunius> he has fun at the expense of others fun?
18:54:56 <Avatar> new GMs are prone to it
18:55:02 <Brunius> Avatar: You saw the GM 101, right?
18:55:08 <Avatar> no?
18:55:13 <Steven> i have done a GM101
18:55:17 <Avatar> oh wait maybe I did
18:55:19 <Brunius> It was on the paizo blog a while back
18:55:22 <Steven> and been in a panel for GM101
18:55:38 <Avatar> yeah I'll have to dig that up
18:55:41 <Steven> they literally tell you if you dont know a rule, make/fake it
18:56:01 <Steven> and then figure it out later
18:56:15 <Brunius> The important thing is to keep it going, I think
18:56:22 <Steven> yeah
18:56:26 <Brunius> It's no fun for anyone to get bogged down in a 20 minute debate about the rules
18:56:43 <Steven> yeah, i've gotten in a 20 minute debate on rules before
18:57:01 <Steven> it was annoying
18:57:09 <Brunius> It's happened in here, but I think that particular instance was less about rules and more the people involved
18:57:59 <Steven> im usually pretty much like make a ruling and lets go for it
18:58:45 <Avatar> Mekkis: I might be up for a boxing day game
18:59:02 <Brunius> Oh yeah, I might be
18:59:07 <Steven> lets fuckin do this... i only argue when i know for a fact that something works one way, point it out and a GM *cough cough bobby cough cough* completely disregards it to do what they want
18:59:12 <Avatar> on a 1-5 ideally
18:59:28 <Steven> boxing day is the day after christmas correct?
18:59:32 <Brunius> the day after
18:59:33 <Brunius> yeah
19:00:06 <Brunius> Steven: If you can pull up a specific rule, go for it. If it's down to interpretation, there's gonna be trouble
19:00:21 <Steven> yeah no this was in the core rulebook
19:00:44 <Steven> had to do with coup rules
19:02:31 <Steven> the specific situation was if memory serves
19:02:44 <Steven> he said his creatures were acting at the same time
19:02:52 <Steven> one guy knocked a guy unconcious
19:03:00 <Steven> then five foot stepped away
19:03:15 <Steven> while the other guy started couping
19:03:35 <Steven> i was like... so they arent acting at the same time
19:03:47 <Steven> because obviously if he was he wouldnt be couping
19:04:09 <Steven> and he was like no hes doing it at the same time
19:04:21 <Steven> and i was like, so my guy will step up
19:05:11 <Steven> and disarm since couping provokes
19:05:23 <Steven> and he was like no you cant step up because this is happening at the same time
19:05:47 <Avatar> did initiative order go out the window
19:05:50 <Steven> ./start arguement
19:05:53 <Brunius> It's a bit of an unspoken rule that you don't coup as a gm
19:06:57 <Steven> there are actually some scenarios that specifically say they try to kill people and then run away with food, and the creatures are intelligent so they would use a coup if the opportunity presented itself
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19:07:37 <Brunius> obviously you do it if the scenario lends itself that way
19:07:56 <Steven> but, the creatures in that scenario usually just outright kill people with the insane damage output of them
19:08:06 <Brunius> but just in general combat I don't think it's good practive
19:08:10 <Brunius> practice even
19:08:43 <Steven> yeah, but we are talking bobby... who is kind of a douche
19:09:30 <Steven> sweet, he says its no problem... i feel better now.
19:19:00 <Steven> i might Gm a game the weekend after christmas
19:22:02 <Steven> avatar....
19:23:02 <Steven> think we might play a mid level game.
19:23:33 <Avatar> mid level in yours is okay
19:24:19 <Steven> mid levesl 3-7
19:24:42 <Steven> might do us some Blackrose Matrimony!
19:26:50 <Steven> fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
19:26:54 <Steven> im combing out my beard
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19:30:54 <Steven> yeah, blackrose matrimony... maybe.....
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19:36:31 <Steven> well.... if you guys wanna do something like the matrimony let me know, ill look to prepping it
19:40:33 <Brunius> what range is it?
19:43:35 <Steven> 3-7
19:43:44 <Brunius> For when?
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21:25:27 <Avatar> yeah man we wanna do it
21:25:31 <Avatar> where did he go
21:51:11 <Brunius> not-here
21:53:52 <Ballig> not-there
21:58:18 <Brunius> not-everywhere
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22:56:40 <Mekkis> Avatar, did you buy the boon?
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23:07:28 <deeldose> hey did u guys ever put a mouse lord in your campaign
23:07:47 <deeldose> needs to be done :P
23:08:11 <deeldose> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/outsiders/animal-lords-tohc/animal-lord-mouse-lord-tohc
23:24:20 <kapow> mekk
23:24:27 <kapow> which hit points are we using for our health?
23:24:31 <kapow> rolled + con?
23:24:40 <kapow> or as per pfs?
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23:57:32 <Mekkis> pfs-style