// #d&d — 2016-05-20
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00:18:41 <MekkisTmux> hey hey
01:06:07 <MekkisTmux> Avatar: but he hasn't finished preparing bless twice yet...
02:22:51 <Steven1> hey
02:49:01 <Steven1> Page 173—In ring of revelation, in the f irst paragraph,
02:49:01 <Steven1> in the last sentence, at the end add “, and Use Magic
02:49:02 <Steven1> Device doesn’t allow a character to gain a revelation
02:49:02 <Steven1> from this ring”.
02:49:17 <Steven1> errata for ultimate equipment
02:49:23 <Steven1> reading through it.
02:49:42 <Steven1> they made the Staff of the Master a complete piece of garbage.
03:16:11 <Avatar> ye
03:16:30 <Avatar> Mekkis: check the core rulebook under wizard
03:16:35 <Avatar> or the magic chapter
03:44:27 <Proquar> Ballig?
03:58:39 <Steven1> game mastery guide as well probably
04:00:51 <Avatar> oh, while preparing his spells
04:01:16 <Avatar> it's 15 minutes per spell right
04:01:46 <Avatar> up to 8 hours when they get all of them
04:01:58 <Avatar> it's possibly an all or none deal as well
04:56:50 <MekkisTmux> Avatar: no, it's 8 hours before you can start preparing, then 1 hour to finish preparing. After that, it's 15 minutes to prepare up to a quarter of his spells into open slots.
04:57:30 <MekkisTmux> (could be 6 hours, not 8 hours, not entirely sure, but it doesn't matter in this scenarion)
05:08:28 <Avatar> how many of those did you have mekkis
05:08:35 <Avatar> quite a few I think
05:08:55 <Avatar> in fact please report back on everything you had that was affected
05:24:34 <MekkisTmux> Steven1: in case you were wondering, the question was:
05:24:40 <MekkisTmux> Scenario: a first level cleric prepares bless, magic weapon and command. During the day, he casts bless and command. He rests eight hours, then chooses to prepare bless twice, and magic weapon. While preparing his spells, a goblin ambushes
05:24:44 <MekkisTmux> him. What spells is he able to cast during this battle?
05:28:24 <Avatar> that is a lot of hodgepodge
05:29:12 <Steven1> sup avatar.
05:29:26 <Steven1> they seriously made the staff of the master completely fucking useless
05:30:10 <Avatar> what exactly was the change to it
05:30:22 <Avatar> it's hard to re-read with the way they word the errata
05:30:59 <Avatar> I thought it was just one feat that you could apply and your character needed to have that feat
05:31:58 <Steven1> it used to be, any metamagic feat you had could be applied to a spell as you were casting it by burning charges off the staff
05:32:21 <Steven1> so if you had quicken, you could quicken a spell by burning 4 charges
05:32:26 <Steven1> now it is this
05:32:28 <Steven1> Additionally, the wielder can apply any metamagic feats she knows when she casts the spells above from the staff. This consumes a number of charges equal to the number of spell levels increased by the feat. She can apply no more than one metamagic feat to a spell cast from the staff in this way. Using the staff for this purpose does not increase the casting time of the spell.
05:33:24 <Steven1> so now if you have quicken, you can burn 4 charges to quicken Ray of Enfeeblement, Sectral Hand, or Vampiric Touch; but only if you're casting that spell from the staff.
05:33:48 <Steven1> so for 6 charges you could cast a quickened Vampiric Touch.
05:34:08 <Avatar> only those 3 spells because they're the spells attached to it?
05:34:13 <Steven1> yup
05:34:26 <Avatar> I'm pretty sure that was always the intended usage of it
05:34:42 <Steven1> thats a horrible magic item for 30k
05:34:46 <Avatar> obviously not how it came out, but it seemed so powerful that someone just royally fucked up the wording
05:34:58 <Avatar> most core items are
05:38:19 <Steven1> i think it was always intended to do what it was doing.
05:40:02 <Steven1> I think it should have cost more then 30k
05:40:29 <Steven1> I dunno bout other people, but i mostly used it to quicken things.
05:42:02 <Avatar> the main part of the staff was meant to be the spells
05:42:07 <Avatar> not the secondary part of it
05:43:23 <Steven1> yeah... the horrible spell selection... thats what everyone bought the staff for.
05:43:55 <Steven1> infact i dont know why anybody would buy a staff for anything other then the amazing spells they have on them.
05:44:29 <Steven1> also... FUCKING HATE WINDOWS 10!
05:44:50 <Brunius> why
05:45:21 <Steven1> it will not let me change foxit as my default pdf program... only edge(which is complete shit) and Adobe(which is also complete shit)
05:46:00 <Avatar> it does let you change it
05:46:14 <Brunius> Right click a PDF, select open with, select 'choose another app', select 'use this program every time', click foxit.
05:46:18 <Avatar> start > settings > default app settings
05:46:22 <Steven1> I've done that.
05:46:38 <Avatar> either of those methods work yo
05:46:42 <Steven1> It will not let me select foxit.
05:46:49 <Avatar> reinstall foxit
05:46:54 <Steven1> did that
05:47:11 <Brunius> sacrifice a goat
05:47:20 <Steven1> brb, gotta buy a goat.
05:53:21 <Steven1> there we go
05:53:37 <Steven1> i uninstalled adobe... let me do it then.
06:01:47 <Steven1> so 50xp on my starwars character.
06:01:55 <Steven1> means i can get force rating 3
06:01:59 <Steven1> oh baby!
06:12:56 <Avatar> can you use items that are only supposed to be available to funky races
06:13:04 <Avatar> use/buy
06:13:06 <Mekkis> with UMD, yes
06:13:11 <Avatar> without UMD
06:13:24 <Avatar> there's no restriction on actually using it, but can you buy it
06:13:29 <Mekkis> Steven1, I mean, if a cleric has Empower Spell, prepares two empowered Sound Bursts, then loses Empower Spell, what happens?
06:13:39 <Avatar> "xxxx have access to the following magic items"
06:13:59 <Avatar> what's the PFS rule
06:15:01 <Mekkis> Avatar, if the item's in the ARG, they need to be that race
06:15:08 <Mekkis> if it isn't in the ARG, then it's fine
06:15:59 <Mekkis> Sorry, that is incorrect
06:16:16 <Mekkis> In PFS, if the item is legal, you can buy it.
06:25:13 <Mekkis> What item are you referring to?
06:56:02 <Avatar> amulet of hidden light is the one I'm looking at
06:56:06 <Avatar> fetchling item
08:16:17 <Steven1> i wasnt wonering, sorry.
08:17:29 <Mekkis> what if a cleric prepares a bunch of quickened spells, the loses the quicken spell feat?
08:17:51 <Steven1> Since we are talking about it though. Clerics choose a certain time each day to regain spells.
08:18:29 <Steven1> so resting for 8 hours does nothing for them if its not the specified time.
08:18:56 <Steven1> They can leave spell slots open to prep spells into, but they only ever regain spell slots at a specific time each day.
08:21:11 <Steven1> how would you lose a metamagic feat mid day?
08:30:18 <Avatar> maybe he chose midday as his specific time
08:30:54 <Mekkis> resonant ioun stone
08:46:15 <Mekkis> Proquar!
08:46:39 <Proquar> Mekkis!
08:47:00 <Mekkis> So, I'll be running some stuff mid-June in Sydney
08:47:15 <Mekkis> https://warhorn.net/events/sydney-pfs-con
08:50:00 <Proquar> ahha
08:50:25 <Proquar> i'm just sorting out a bully, i'll see how i'm feeling then ;)
08:51:55 <Proquar> what is war horn? and why is my first experience them asking me for money?
08:52:19 <Mekkis> because they don't know how to get web hosting for a reasonable amount
08:54:00 <Proquar> are you doing anything on the sunday?
08:54:09 <Mekkis> yes
08:54:10 <Proquar> can i register without joining warhorn?
08:54:39 <Mekkis> no, but you don't need to give warhorn any money. If you really want, I can set up a forwarding email address for you
08:56:38 <Proquar> sok
08:56:49 <Proquar> how can i tell which sessions you are running?
08:57:15 <Mekkis> my name on warhorn is Tsuto Kaijitsu
09:04:27 <Proquar> i only see one session by you on saturday
09:04:31 <Proquar> :/
09:05:28 <Mekkis> I'm runnng in hte morning on Sunday too
09:05:37 <Proquar> embarrassing
09:05:45 <Proquar> that's because i was looking at saturday
09:06:14 <Proquar> are you running the same one twice?
09:07:03 <Mekkis> yeah
09:08:36 <Proquar> does Ballig ever talk to anyone?
09:08:55 <Brunius> Depends on what you ask.
09:09:02 <Brunius> I lured him into saying something about a month ago.
09:09:07 <Mekkis> We've been in the same city for nearly three years, and still haven't met. Not for lack of trying.
09:09:37 <Proquar> I'm missing him, and need to talk about A Song of Ice and Fire
09:09:44 <Proquar> No one can talk about that like Ballig can
09:10:09 <Brunius> I must've missed that.
09:10:22 <Proquar> anyways - i will make decisions about Psycon5 tomorrow (i hope)
09:10:37 <Proquar> oh boy.. it's been awhile since I've done anything on PFS....
09:10:46 <Proquar> Brunius: it was a looong time ago
09:10:55 * Proquar goes off into a little daydream
09:11:17 <Mekkis> I'm in melbourne atm
09:11:18 <Mekkis> !item amulet of hidden light
09:11:19 <diebot> Mekkis, AMULET OF HIDDEN LIGHT [faint illusion] CL:3 neck 9000gp, 0lb
09:11:19 <diebot> This large amulet crafted of rough-cut glass can, on command, shed light as a sunrod. Unlike a normal light source, creatures outside this area cannot see the amulet's light. Source: Advanced Race Guide
09:11:39 <Mekkis> meh
09:11:40 <Brunius> According to the white pages, Ballig lives less than 200m from my grandparents.
09:11:45 <Mekkis> you could buy that
09:11:53 <Mekkis> seems like a waste though
09:12:12 <Mekkis> I didn't think about whitepaging him
09:12:15 <Proquar> is he in Melbourne?
09:12:32 <Mekkis> according to the Gazette, he's in Canberra
09:12:55 <Mekkis> Proquar, I'll also be in Sydney end of July
09:13:06 <Ballig> why are you all conspiring to stalk me
09:13:28 <Mekkis> because it's better than actually stalking you
09:13:33 <Mekkis> also, we're worried about you
09:13:37 <Proquar> cause I asked them too :)
09:13:40 <Proquar> BALLIG!
09:13:48 <Ballig> proquar
09:13:54 <Proquar> how are you?
09:14:02 <Ballig> great, you?
09:14:18 <Mekkis> (This again highlights my assertion that Ballig only speaks when we're at least 500km away from each other)
09:14:40 <Proquar> i've been better
09:15:06 <Proquar> lolz @ mekkis
09:15:14 <Proquar> i'm thinking about going to PsyCon5
09:15:56 <Proquar> and more importantly - I'm finding Season 6 of GoT incredibly frustrating - because it misses so many important bits of the books - but this time, there are no books to fill in the blanks
09:16:26 <Mekkis> hmmm
09:16:31 <Ballig> I haven't watched the TV shows yet
09:16:36 <Mekkis> how does spell preparation work?
09:16:53 <Proquar> none of them?
09:16:55 <Ballig> nope
09:17:15 <Proquar> they are pretty good… but they're better with the 'missing' information
09:17:42 <Ballig> necessarily evil when you're changing to a different medium, I imagine
09:17:43 <Proquar> and they are not worth the delay in the Books 6 & 7
09:17:50 <Ballig> at least it's not as bad as if they tried to fit it all into 1-3 movies
09:18:19 <Ballig> the problem I've got is that if the TV show is further along than the books, it will mean spoilers for the books
09:18:31 <Proquar> I have enjoyed they're representation of Dorne - I didn't get it from the books ;)
09:19:04 <Proquar> There are bits that will never marry up.. I don't think
09:19:45 <Proquar> (They got rid of the whole Jane Poole char - and ended Season 5 with Sansa marrying Ramsay Bolton, for instance)
09:20:02 <Ballig> spoiler alert
09:20:18 <Proquar> sort of
09:20:32 <Proquar> i'll shoosh
09:20:36 * Proquar hangs her head
09:20:41 <Ballig> ha
09:23:05 <Brunius> Yeah they're diverging some
09:24:47 <Proquar> there was another change that was completely unnecessary
09:25:58 <Ballig> it's always odd when they diverge from the story unnecessarily
09:26:09 <Ballig> I used to really enjoy a book series called The Sword of Truth when I was a teenager
09:26:18 <Ballig> great books early on, loses its way near the end of the series
09:26:28 <Ballig> but they tried making a TV show out of it and just changed all sorts of random things for no reason
09:26:30 <Mekkis> The first book was definitely the best
09:26:48 <Proquar> The Sword of Truth?
09:26:50 <Ballig> by the time you got half way through the first episode it was a completely different story just using the names of the characters from the books
09:26:57 <Ballig> yeah, by Terry Goodkind
09:27:53 <Proquar> there's a lot of dumbing down in the GoT (but also some simplification)
09:28:30 <Proquar> But the old - 30 seconds after Joffrey dies lets have the killers expose themselves
09:28:40 <Proquar> (it's not spoilers if its from Season 5)
09:28:58 <Proquar> (pretty sure that's true)
09:28:59 <Ballig> seems that would cut out a whole chunk from the books
09:30:45 <Proquar> There's enough to keep it going
09:31:06 <Proquar> there are some scenes in Season 6 (which I won't mention in detail) that I'm looking forward to reading in the books
09:31:22 <Ballig> but doesn't it spoil them
09:31:32 <Proquar> probably :(
09:32:06 <Proquar> having said that - i saw Silence of the Lambs before reading the book… and the book was even better
09:32:15 <Proquar> I'm hoping for that for Book 6/7
09:32:35 <Proquar> (also: worried that said books will just be concepts for the rest of eternity)
09:33:04 <Brunius> I heard he's working on WoW
09:33:20 <Brunius> After the extended break
09:33:22 <Brunius> so I'm hopeful
09:33:57 * Proquar ponders the situation
09:38:39 <Mekkis> Scenario: a first level cleric prepares bless, magic weapon and command. During the day, he casts bless and command. He rests eight hours, then chooses to prepare bless twice, and magic weapon. While preparing his spells, a goblin ambushes him. What spells is he able to cast during this battle?
09:38:39 <Proquar> great talking with you Ballig - sorry for the stalking
09:38:42 * Proquar toddles off to bed
19:33:48 <Avatar> I guess it's a waste if you're metagaming and the bad guys find you no matter what
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20:12:38 <Mekkis> wow, I should ask Paizo for a refund for UE.
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20:19:43 <Proquar> i've remembered
20:21:59 <Mekkis> oh?
20:22:40 <Proquar> There are things happening in Season 6 that are, to my mind unbelievable
20:23:06 <Proquar> And I'm hoping (though I'm not sure) that the book will flesh them out enough for it to make sense
20:23:31 <Steven1> im alright with lot of them.
20:24:30 <Proquar> this is a conversation for ballig also
20:29:31 <Ballig> did daeny pee standing up
20:30:53 <Proquar> oh - actually the daeny stoyline is very believable
20:31:03 <Proquar> and exciting
20:31:45 <Proquar> and, running on the you can't spoil Season 5 or earlier, because there are books for those:
20:32:36 <Proquar> One of the changes from telly to book was very acceptable because it was such an awesome spectacle
20:32:53 <Proquar> Brienne vs The Hound
20:33:54 <Proquar> ballig, who is John Snow's mother?
20:34:04 <Ballig> everyone knows that
20:34:49 <Proquar> there are still debates
20:34:56 <Proquar> aren't there?
20:35:12 <Ballig> I didn't think so
20:35:15 <Steven1> the only debate is how i managed to eat all these pancakes.
20:35:46 <Proquar> mmm.. pancakes
20:36:25 <Steven1> yeah, pancakes from scratch... cause fuck bisquick
20:36:38 <Ballig> that takes forever though
20:36:47 <Ballig> that's only worth it if someone else is making them for you
20:37:12 <Mekkis> making them from scratch doesn't take forever...
20:37:37 <Ballig> pancakes in general take forever
20:38:53 * Proquar will make you pancakes
20:38:57 * Proquar makes awesome pancakes
20:39:03 * Mekkis will take Proquar up on this
20:39:14 <Steven1> 1 1/2 cup flour, 1 1/4 cup milk, 1 egg, 1 tablespoon baking powder, 1 tablespoon sugar, 1 tablespoon melted butter, lil salt
20:39:31 <Proquar> Where are you staying, Mekkis?
20:39:45 <Mekkis> 1 cup flour, 1¼ cup milk, 1 egg
20:39:47 <Proquar> baking powder? very american
20:39:54 <Mekkis> Proquar, I haven't booked yet.
20:39:54 <Steven1> I'm american
20:40:10 <Proquar> pancakes should be thin
20:40:18 <Ballig> I substituted the egg for pebbles and the milk for tepid water. terrible recipe, would never make again. 1/5 stars
20:40:37 <Proquar> lolz
20:40:44 <Mekkis> I generally substitute cream for half the milk
20:41:00 <Proquar> that sounds like a challenge, mekkis
20:41:02 <Steven1> i dont like thin pancakes.
20:41:31 <Mekkis> Hey; I've been doing Return Oriented Programming. I'm up for anything
20:41:59 <Proquar> Divine caster, that's a cleric, right?
20:42:19 <Proquar> not making pancakes for you… :p
20:43:06 * Proquar hopes paizo remembers me
20:43:56 <Proquar> mostly remembers me
20:44:11 <Steven1> 7 days till paizocon 2016
20:44:35 <Proquar> PFS doesn't show PsyCon5?
20:45:29 <Mekkis> https://warhorn.net/events/sydney-pfs-con
20:46:03 <Proquar> sorry - paizo doesn't show it
20:46:12 <Proquar> apparently, i only have one level 2 char
20:46:16 <Proquar> ;;)
20:47:01 <Proquar> after all that
20:47:04 <Proquar> *confuse*
20:47:23 <Mekkis> how much xp does she have?
20:49:11 <Proquar> where do i find that?
20:49:28 <Mekkis> count up her chronicle sheets
20:49:41 <Mekkis> or go to paizo and look at Games Played
20:49:58 <Proquar> it's different to prestige points, right?
20:50:02 <Mekkis> yes
20:50:24 <Mekkis> generally, each game gives one XP
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20:50:48 <Proquar> 5
20:50:52 <Mekkis> cool
20:50:52 <Proquar> 5 XP
20:51:14 <Mekkis> so if you play something on Saturday, she'll be level 3 by sunday
20:51:38 <Proquar> lolz
20:52:16 <Mekkis> alternatively, you _could_ ask Steven1 to run something for you..
20:53:07 <Proquar> I don't know that he likes me…
20:53:10 * Proquar ponder
20:53:15 <Proquar> s the situation
20:53:25 <Proquar> Do you know Shayne Ward?
20:53:47 <Mekkis> no. should I?
20:54:29 <Proquar> she's running a game saturday afternoon for levels 1-2
20:54:33 <Mekkis> Shayne Thomas Ward (born 16 October 1984) is an English singer and actor, who rose to fame as the winner of the second series of The X Factor.
20:54:38 <Proquar> (sorry, assuming it's a shayne)
20:54:53 <Mekkis> oh, that one.
20:54:58 <Proquar> do you think she's likely to be running a session in Hurstville?
20:55:10 <Mekkis> I might sign up for it too
20:55:17 <Mekkis> All the sessions will be in Hurstville
20:55:48 <Proquar> my problem at this moment… is that if i don't have a business partner, i will be needed at work that day
20:56:12 <Mekkis> ah
20:56:20 * Proquar ponders the situation
20:56:30 <Proquar> i should organise a backup for this...
20:57:01 <Mekkis> yo Steven1, can you run something for Proquar ?
20:57:02 <Proquar> seriously, though I know i've played a cleric… haven't i?
20:57:11 <Mekkis> I think so
20:57:14 <Steven1> when
20:57:26 <Mekkis> next weekend?
20:57:30 <Proquar> sun 5 june
20:57:43 <Mekkis> aest
20:58:44 <Steven1> the weekends are never good for me.
20:59:53 <Proquar> wed evening?
21:01:04 <Steven1> gamenight at the shop
21:01:23 <Steven1> most of the times im not 'at work' im actually already playing a game.
21:03:34 <Steven1> earlier tonight would have actually been rather good.
21:04:37 <Mekkis> our wednesday evening is your early wednesday morning
21:04:43 <Mekkis> about fifteen hours
21:08:04 <Proquar> Apparently, tabina is my only PFS char
21:08:15 <Steven1> wanna borrow one of mine?
21:08:19 <Proquar> played a few 'pregenerated' chars.. and used their XP for her
21:08:30 <Steven1> I've got 32 with xp on them.
21:08:56 <Proquar> nah…. if i get serious, it'll be time to start a cleric
21:09:18 <Proquar> (seirous about getting back into it)
21:09:24 <Proquar> ballig… would you run a game?
21:09:48 <Steven1> I've got horrible cleric that turned out to be super strong
21:10:10 <Ballig> I haven't played in years
21:11:14 <Mekkis> Proquar, https://warhorn.net/events/sydney-pfs/schedule/2016/06/05
21:11:16 <Proquar> me neither
21:11:45 <Proquar> i'm out all day that Saturday
21:12:06 <Steven1> gnome cloistered cleric
21:12:10 <Steven1> into pathfinder savant
21:12:14 <Steven1> broken as fuck
21:12:31 <Mekkis> that day isn't a saturday
21:13:06 <Steven1> i need to create a new character. I dont have a level 1 anymore.
21:13:30 <Proquar> Epping!
21:15:25 <Mekkis> I don't know sydney geography
21:19:18 <Steven1> alright... lets build a new level 1
21:19:39 <Proquar> no worries
21:19:49 <Proquar> think i'll make sure i have a back up for the saturday session
21:20:00 <Proquar> and then i should be able to play saturday pm
21:23:02 <Proquar> oh right, my faction's been changed
22:14:22 <Avatar> Mekkis: bless twice and magic weapon
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