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03:23:12 Mekkis sets mode -R Mekkis
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03:24:28 Topic for #d&d is: AEDT (UTC+11:00) || Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au || https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/pathfinder-society-online-collective
03:24:28 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Mon Nov 30 17:40:08 2015
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17:56:00 <Relaxer> decided on bangers and mash for dinner
19:08:18 <Relaxer> oh man... if i ever play a bugbear character
19:13:42 <Relaxer> gonna be a two handed fighter
19:13:48 <Relaxer> w/ power attack
19:14:44 <Relaxer> cornugon smash
19:14:51 <Relaxer> and hurtful
19:14:59 <Relaxer> so at 7th level
19:15:03 <Relaxer> two attacks
19:15:12 <Relaxer> if i hit with power attack
19:15:34 <Relaxer> make intimidate check
19:16:00 <Relaxer> if i successfully intimidate, spend swift action to make another attack.
19:33:03 <Relaxer> could move, vital strike intimidate take second attack.
19:52:17 Avatar` is now known as Avatar
19:52:19 <Avatar> you could kill a dragon in the first round !
20:03:16 <Relaxer> well... probably not hte first round, but would definently get it bloodied
20:19:00 <Mekkis> You don't think vital strike is a waste of a feat?
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20:22:09 <Relaxer> i like vital strike because i tend to move a lot.
20:22:52 <Mekkis> can't be used on a charge or spring attack though
20:23:40 <Avatar> !feat vital strike
20:23:40 <diebot> Avatar, error with query
20:23:46 <Avatar> really
20:23:50 <Avatar> that's a core feat
20:24:01 <Mekkis> !prdfeat vital strike
20:24:02 <diebot> Mekkis, VITAL STRIKE [Combat]Prereq: Base attack bonus +6. You make a single attack that deals significantly more damage than normal.
20:24:03 <diebot> Benefit: When you use the attack action, you can make one attack at your highest base attack bonus that deals additional damage. Roll the weapon's damage dice for the attack twice and add the results together before adding bonuses from Strength, weapon abilities (such as flaming), precision based damage, and other damage bonuses. These extra
20:24:03 <diebot> weapon damage dice are not multiplied on a critical hit, but are added to the total. Source: Core
20:25:39 <Relaxer> i tend to dislike charging, that -2 ac ends up getting me hit a lot
20:26:09 <Relaxer> move+vital strike is pretty decent.
20:27:23 <Mekkis> it is?
20:27:33 <Mekkis> it's marginally better than move + attack
20:28:32 <Relaxer> depends on if you go with large sized weapons
20:28:49 <Relaxer> large sized bastard sword has a lot of swingy damage.
20:29:01 <Mekkis> weapons so large that vital strike is a significant proportion of the damage?
20:29:04 <Mekkis> hmmm...
20:29:14 <Mekkis> vital strike + siege weapons....
20:29:17 <Relaxer> specially if you wield a large sized bastard sword and get enlarged.
20:29:29 <Relaxer> 6d8 can be a lot of damage.
20:29:38 <Relaxer> and if you get rage and get furious finish...
20:29:41 <Relaxer> well balls.
20:29:43 <Mekkis> hmmm
20:30:08 <Mekkis> I assume that you'd rate Furious Focus over vital strike?
20:31:09 <Relaxer> if im using a large sized weapon yeah.
20:31:21 <Mekkis> and if not?
20:31:40 <Relaxer> i'd probably go with something different.
20:31:44 <Relaxer> brb, going mobile.
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20:35:02 <Steven|M> i dont particularly like vital strike on weapons with dice <1d8
20:35:43 <Steven|M> once you get weapons that are 2d6, vital strike becomes a much more attractive feat.
20:37:05 <Mekkis> vital strike with a 2d6 weapon is still only 7 damage on average.
20:37:17 <Mekkis> and you're giving up a full-attack or a charge for it
20:37:28 <Mekkis> (or many other interesting types of attacks)
20:37:55 <Steven|M> vital strike on a 2d6 weapon goes to 4d6, which is 14 damage
20:38:12 <Mekkis> it increases the damage by 7
20:38:20 <Mekkis> as opposed to attacking without it
20:39:02 <Steven|M> I dont think anyone is saying vital strike>full attack.
20:39:16 <Mekkis> true
20:39:34 <Steven|M> unless you've every vital strike feat
20:39:41 <Steven|M> and furious finish
20:40:05 <Mekkis> !prdfeat furious finish
20:40:06 <diebot> Mekkis, FURIOUS FINISH [] You channel all of your rage into one massive blow to crush your enemy. Prerequisites: Rage class feature, Vital Strike, base attack bonus +6. Benefit: While raging, when you use the Vital Strike feat, you can choose not to roll your damage dice and instead deal damage equal to the maximum roll possible on those damage
20:40:07 <diebot> dice. If you do, your rage immediately ends, and you are fatigued (even if you would not normally be).
20:40:07 <diebot> Benefit: Source: UC
20:40:51 <Mekkis> but would you take Furious Focus over Vital Strike?
20:41:19 <Steven|M> if i was wielding an oversized weapon yes.
20:41:38 <Mekkis> ?
20:41:49 <Steven|M> an oversized weapon imparts a -2 to hit.
20:41:55 <Mekkis> wouldn't you take under all circumstances?
20:42:18 <Steven|M> no, if i was wielding a longsword it would be lower priority
20:42:30 <Mekkis> you'd take vital strike over furious focus?
20:42:51 <Steven|M> yes
20:45:23 <Mekkis> interesting
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20:50:35 <Relaxer> well, lets see. Barbarian 18(22)str level 7. Furious Focus with standard sized Bastard Sword. +13 to hit for 1d10+15 (+2 while charging taking a total penalty on AC of -4)
20:51:40 <Relaxer> same barbarian with vital strike 2d10+15 but unable to charge.
20:52:14 <Relaxer> Large sized weapon and furious focus would be +11 to hit for 2d8+15
20:52:37 <Relaxer> large sized, furious focus, vital strike 4d8+15
20:53:06 <Relaxer> large sized, no furious focus to hit drops to +9
20:53:30 <Relaxer> +9 to hit at level 7 isnt horrible.
20:54:06 <Relaxer> but +11 is better.
20:54:23 <Relaxer> so furious focus is a good addition to the build.
20:55:07 <Relaxer> 1st level power attack, 3rd level furious focus, 5th level retrain vital strike, 7th level furious finish
20:55:59 <Relaxer> with that you'd have a +11 to hit, end rage to do 47 damage
20:56:37 <Relaxer> or you could take two attacks, and IF you hat on both, you'd do an average of 50 damage
20:57:39 <Relaxer> but your attacks would be +11/+4
20:58:03 <Relaxer> which is possible vs AC 20 creatures.
20:59:02 <Relaxer> anyways, i like vital strike.
21:02:21 <Relaxer> man i wish I was playing kingmaker again.
21:02:30 <Relaxer> I really liked my character in that campaign.
21:02:39 <Relaxer> vital strike arcane archer
21:06:30 <Relaxer> 6d6+23+1d6(elemental), furious finish for 65 damage
21:07:00 <Relaxer> it wasnt the most insane ranged character, but i dont like doing the whole Many shot, rapid, shot, watch me puke arrows.
21:07:35 <Relaxer> raging str of 16
21:24:18 <Mekkis> time to look for flights
21:26:31 <Relaxer> where yagoin?
21:28:56 <Mekkis> Atlanta, Salt lake city, Denver, then possible Yellowstone
21:32:15 <Relaxer> denver is nice
21:32:18 <Relaxer> in some spots
21:32:30 <Relaxer> not indianaplis?
21:32:47 <Mekkis> what's there?
21:33:23 <Relaxer> gencon, best 4 days of gaming.
21:33:28 <Mekkis> in October?
21:33:36 <Relaxer> nah, in august
21:35:45 <Mekkis> that's what.
21:36:09 <Mekkis> Atlanta for the GP, Salt lake city for a work-related conference, Denver for a non-work-related conference, and finally Yellowstone for a trip with my parents
21:39:42 <Relaxer> but yellowstone is a volcano... why would you want to go there?
21:43:13 <Mekkis> My father is a geophysicist
21:43:56 <Mekkis> And by Denver I mean Dallas
21:44:56 <Mekkis> You should come to Dallas for the SEG AGM....
21:47:34 <Relaxer> no way im goin to texas.
21:48:32 <Mekkis> what happens down there?
21:49:25 <Mekkis> Can you point me towards PFS in those cities?
21:56:39 <Relaxer> its texas
21:56:57 <Relaxer> its pretty much the place everyone else makes fun of
21:57:25 <Mekkis> I heard that if an aussie goes there, they get a free gun
21:58:00 <Relaxer> everyone gets a gun in texas.
21:58:26 <Mekkis> awesome.
21:58:57 <Avatar> you say it's awesome
21:58:58 <Avatar> until you get shot
21:59:09 <Mekkis> no, I'm safe
21:59:15 <Mekkis> I'm not black.
21:59:53 <Relaxer> texas is pretty safe.
22:00:08 <Relaxer> everyone has a gun, so nobody fucks with anybody.
22:00:35 <Relaxer> but i wouldnt go there because its hot s balls
22:00:39 <Relaxer> as balls
22:48:55 <Mekkis> Wow. there are two M13s on Ebay...
22:49:05 <Mekkis> Should I spend $160 on a keyboard?
22:49:30 <Mekkis> a 22 year old keyboard?
23:10:58 <Relaxer> no
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