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00:04:56 <Steven1> evangalist
00:06:26 <Steven1> gets a list that you can spontaneously cast
00:06:35 <Mekkis> but they're not domain spells
00:06:57 <Steven1> theologian i think
00:11:25 <Mekkis> preferred spell would work, right?
00:14:36 <Steven1> yeah.
00:23:33 <Mekkis> !capacity 9
00:23:35 <diebot> Mekkis, 30 if medium, 22.5 if small.
02:50:43 <Mekkis> !feat piranna strike
02:50:44 <diebot> Mekkis, error with query
02:53:49 <Mekkis> Steven1, what do you think about 9/16/12/12/14/12 as a starting statline - adding in gnomish mods bringing it to 7/16/14/12/14/14
02:54:32 <Steven1> meh
02:55:20 <Mekkis> feats would be 1. Weapon Finesse; 3. Dervish Dance; 5. Piranna strike; 7. Toughness
02:55:26 <Mekkis> probably.
02:55:57 <Mekkis> !hp 8d8m2
02:55:58 <diebot> Mekkis, 59
02:56:14 <Mekkis> FCB into skills
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03:16:26 <Mekkis> Can you suggest any cleric archetypes?
03:16:27 <Freymaurer> hey guys, i just registered and now i need some Information on how to get started for pathfinder society
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04:45:38 <bigboom> Hi there! I was googling around about online PFS games and found my way here. Is this a group of PFS players?
04:50:41 <Mekkis> yes
04:51:22 <Mekkis> I'm off to play some PFS now, I'm sure that Avatar or Steven1 can talk to you in the meantime; otherwise I'll be back in a few hours.
04:55:02 <Avatar> hey guyz it's the middle of the night can anyone help
04:55:19 <Avatar> if nobody responds in 10 mins I might leave and never come back
05:00:05 <bigboom> alrighty, thanks!
05:06:33 <Steven1> huh
05:06:52 <Steven1> oh darn... 11 minutes... woe is me.
05:06:53 <Steven1> my timing
05:07:17 <Steven1> is horrible
05:12:25 <Steven1> evangalist?
05:23:33 <Steven1> I will talk... it will likely not be helpful.
05:25:02 <bigboom> haha!
05:25:16 <Mekkis> I need to make a new character for Reign of Winter
05:25:26 <bigboom> I'm just wondering what this community is...
05:25:58 <Steven1> it is....
05:26:02 <Steven1> are you ready for this?
05:26:05 <Steven1> a community.
05:26:11 <Steven1> i know, i know... mind blown.
05:26:29 <Steven1> we basically sit around and bullshit.
05:26:38 <Steven1> and occasionally run a game
05:26:57 <Steven1> bitch about some of the ridiculous situations
05:26:59 <Steven1> in pfs.
05:29:43 <bigboom> Ah okay. So when everyone is pausing from the bullshitting and bitching *chuckle* to organize a game, is it pretty ad hoc? Or does someone plan it and post up timings and such a few days beforehand?
05:41:43 <Steven1> well... that sesion of Dark Heresy was completely and totally Fuckered.
05:43:40 <Steven1> the dark pact that was made is now complete... hundreds of people died. The party is now in shambles.
05:45:51 <Steven1> sorry hundreds of people and about 50 children... it was a dark session
06:03:27 <Steven1> they post it up
06:49:48 <Steven> alrighty, goin to sleep. tomorrow gonna play the Kobold scenario.
06:49:56 <Steven> with Tonya
07:04:23 <Steven> i could not sleep.
07:37:09 <Mekkis> !feat dervish dance
07:37:11 <diebot> Mekkis, error with query
07:37:20 <Mekkis> !feat power attack
07:37:21 <diebot> Mekkis, error with query
07:37:28 <Mekkis> !spell magic missile
07:37:40 <diebot> Mekkis, MAGIC MISSILE evocation ([force]) sorcerer/wizard 1, magus 1, bloodrager 1 1 standard action Range: medium (100 ft. + 10 ft./level) up to five creatures, no two of which can be more than 15 ft. apart Comp: V, S Duration: instantaneous Save: none SR:yesSource: PFRPG Core
07:37:40 <diebot> A missile of magical energy darts forth from your fingertip and strikes its target, dealing 1d4+1 points of force damage. The missile strikes unerringly, even if the target is in melee combat, so long as it has less than total cover or total concealment. Specific parts of a creature can't be singled out. Objects are not damaged by the spell. For
07:37:40 <diebot> every two caster levels beyond 1st, you gain an additional missile-two at 3rd level, three at 5th, four at 7th, and the maximum of five missiles at 9th level or higher. If you shoot multiple missiles, you can have them strike a single creature or several creatures. A single missile can strike only one creature. You must designate targets before you
07:37:40 <diebot> check for spell resistance or roll damage.
07:57:01 <Mekkis> What is it with clerics being so skill-starved
08:00:51 <Mekkis> I mean, what I'm looking at needs good dex for attacks with scimitar, sufficient con to survive, 14 int for skills (minimum), wisdom as a spellcasting stat, and charisma to channel.
08:00:57 <Mekkis> !vchargen
08:00:59 <diebot> Mekkis, 11(4,4,3,2), 13(1,4,4,5), 14(2,5,4,5), 10(1,4,2,4), 15(1,5,4,6), 11(5,2,4,2)
08:01:03 <Mekkis> haha
08:01:31 <Mekkis> !vchargen
08:01:32 <diebot> Mekkis, 15(5,3,4,6), 11(3,3,3,5), 12(2,6,2,4), 9(1,2,1,6), 11(6,2,2,3), 14(4,6,4,1)
08:05:02 <Steven1> sounds like you're trying to do to much with it.
08:29:50 <Steven> !throw 1d100
08:29:53 <diebot> Steven, 1d100: [1d100=66] 66
08:30:27 <Steven> great response avatar.
08:38:34 <Mekkis> http://basicinstructions.net/basic-instructions/2006/8/13/how-to-talk-to-your-kid-about-smoking.html
08:43:32 <Avatar> it's a team game mekkis
08:43:43 <Avatar> just do one thing well
08:43:54 <Avatar> maybe two
08:44:02 <Avatar> one of those should be sufficient con to survive
08:46:34 <Mekkis> hmm. I think vanilla is good enoug
08:46:35 <Mekkis> h
08:50:34 <Mekkis> Steven1, how would you stat out a Dawnflower Dissident
08:51:56 <Mekkis> or Avatar...
08:52:01 <Mekkis> 20 point buy.
08:53:19 <Avatar> hmmm a good question
08:53:25 <Avatar> what's their spellcasting stat
08:54:12 <Steven1> 13/16/14/12/13/12 Human.
08:54:25 <Avatar> perfect
08:54:41 <Avatar> I was going to aim lower than that
08:54:58 <Steven1> 1st level would be Toughness, Bonus feat Fast learner
08:55:43 <Steven1> end up 5 skill points/level
08:56:23 <Steven1> 3rd level Weapon Finesse 5th level Dervish Dance
08:56:42 <Steven> this better be funny!
08:56:56 <Steven1> 7th level Power attack.
08:57:25 <Steven1> IF you dont want to go pure cleric and be more in your face agression
08:57:35 <Steven1> i'd probably throw a level of Fighter.
08:57:43 <Mekkis> 13 wisdom?
08:58:17 <Steven1> yeah... if you're wanting to do all those things you said you wanted to do thats pretty much the stats array you'll need to be mediocre in all of them.
08:59:13 <Steven1> You'll never be a spell casting power house if you want to be skill rank and melee capable.
08:59:30 <Mekkis> hmmm
09:00:11 <Steven1> but that stat array will allow you to cast quite a few decent buff spells
09:00:44 <Steven1> and then wade into melee combat without falling over the first time someone sneezes at you.
09:01:39 <Mekkis> 7/14/14/12/16/12. Gnome. Racials make it 5/14/16/12/16/14; FCB into skill points for the first five levels?
09:02:32 <Mekkis> oh wow....
09:03:36 <Steven1> all i am seeing in that stat array is I would love to die to a shadow in one hit.
09:03:43 <Mekkis> true.
09:05:14 <Steven1> also... you'll be able to wield a scimitar and wear padded armor.
09:05:24 <Mekkis> !spell ant haul
09:05:27 <diebot> Mekkis, ANT HAUL transmutation ([]) alchemist 1, cleric/oracle 1, druid 1, ranger 1, sorcerer/wizard 1, summoner 1 1 standard action Range: touch creature touched Comp: V, S, M/DF (a small pulley) Duration: 2 hours/level Save: Fortitude negates (harmless) SR:yes (harmless)Source: APG
09:05:28 <diebot> The target's carrying capacity triples (see Table 7-4: Carrying Capacity on page 171 of the Core Rulebook). This does not affect the creature's actual Strength in any way, merely the amount of material it can carry while benefiting from this spell. It also has no effect on encumbrance due to armor. If the creature wears armor it still takes the
09:05:28 <diebot> normal penalties for doing so regardless of how much weight the spell allows it to carry.
09:05:30 <Steven1> and carry 1lb of stuff without become medium encumbered.
09:06:01 <Steven1> as a GM i would ask you at first level which 2hrs of the day would you like to be ant hauled?
09:06:26 <Mekkis> Steven1, context: this isn't for PFS, and I'm building for eighth level
09:07:05 <Steven1> oh okay... well then that changes the build i recommended since you'll be able to grab some magic items, like belts.
09:10:07 <Avatar> how many shadows are there in PFS
09:10:15 <Avatar> I think I have only seen them once, at 1st level
09:10:21 <Avatar> (lol)
09:10:24 <Steven1> I've seen quite a few.
09:10:31 <Avatar> I was lucky to have not finished that encounter because the group broke up
09:11:24 <Steven1> I know of 4 scenarios that had shadows
09:11:32 <Steven1> because they were memorable encounters
09:12:02 <Steven1> because they completely fucked the party.
09:12:18 <Steven1> mostly because it was like hey here is a shadow... tralalalala
09:12:35 <Steven1> oh you killed it and only took 8 str damage
09:13:13 <Steven1> congradulations... here is a boss who as the firt action hits you with a ray of enfeeblement... suck a big fat cock you're unable to move.
09:13:36 <Steven1> im still bitter about it.
09:15:31 <Steven1> alright, anyways.
09:16:03 <Mekkis> any way to increase the number of domain spells I can cast?
09:16:11 <Avatar> seems like just such a shit creature to be in the bestiary
09:16:22 <Avatar> you include it when you want to give your players a bit of a fuck you
09:16:28 <Avatar> not in organised play
09:16:37 <Steven1> mekkis, That gnome is rocking a 5 str... You can go ahead and play him and he may do great, but its been my experience with EVERY table i play with somebody who has a 5 in a stat that they've gotten shit on.
09:16:45 <Avatar> maybe bonekeep
09:16:54 <Mekkis> yeah, I know that 5 str is Not Good
09:17:13 <Steven1> shadows are woefully under CR
09:17:50 <Steven1> Incoporeal creature that directly attacks an attribute... CR3? What the fuck you talkin bout game designers.
09:19:16 <Mekkis> Are there any int-based divine casters?
09:19:23 <Steven1> no.
09:21:46 <Steven1> well, not in paizo content.
09:22:14 <Steven1> im sure someone has created a 3rd party int based divine caster.
09:22:25 <Avatar> are there any int-based divine casters who also use int to damage
09:22:40 <Avatar> and int to hit and can turn skills from their base skill to int
09:22:46 <Steven1> anyone can do int to damage if they've Focused Shot
09:22:50 <Avatar> also AC to int
09:23:24 <Steven1> you mean int to AC?
09:23:29 <Avatar> yeah int to AC thx
09:23:34 <Steven1> Kensai Magus?
09:23:38 <Avatar> also int to will save actually
09:23:41 <Avatar> high con and dex will be OK
09:24:06 <Avatar> although actually it would be best if I don't need my dex score for hitting and AC anymore, so int to reflex as well
09:24:15 <Avatar> is there a class or feat for that
09:24:24 <Avatar> maybe a trait
09:25:19 <Steven1> yes... its called trait: I'm a fucking Deity bitch!
09:25:28 <Avatar> if it's a trait that's best because then I can use the second trait for something that someone else should take care of and I want to be self sufficient
09:26:55 <Steven1> evangalist
09:27:32 <Ulzef> man i swear why is precise shot gated so bad
09:28:24 <Steven1> it negates somebody standing directly infront of you
09:28:25 <Steven1> gets a list that you can spontaneously cast
09:28:35 <Mekkis> but they're not domain spells
09:28:56 <Steven1> theologian i think
09:29:01 <Steven1> sorry thought you said imp precise shot
09:29:16 <Ulzef> no it doesn't. you still take cover penaltys it removes in melee. ita required feat for every ranged character and is gated by point blank
09:29:31 <Ulzef> nah just precise
09:29:37 <Ulzef> imp precise is about right
09:29:43 <Steven1> precise shot isnt gated hard at all... its Point blank shot that gives you a bonus for firing at short range.
09:30:15 <Ulzef> its 2 feats to make your character work
09:30:59 <Ulzef> i was trying to build a throwing weapon character and its a feat starved madness
09:32:51 <Steven1> how did you get feat starved on a throwing weapon specialist.
09:33:20 <Steven1> quick draw, point blank shot, precist shot, deadly aim, weapon focus, close quarters thrower
09:33:25 <Mekkis> preferred spell would work, right?
09:34:01 <Steven1> done by level 4 with a fighter.
09:34:11 <Ulzef> weapon focus, weapon finesse, slashing grace, point blank, precise shot, quick draw, deadly aim
09:35:06 <Ulzef> then if they are made legal the new style feats from the weapon master book
09:36:35 <Steven1> yeah.
09:36:55 <Steven1> i dont buy every book... which feat?
09:38:05 <Steven1> is there a feat that says hey when you have slashing grace you can add dex to damage while making a ranged attack with the weapon?
09:38:07 <Ulzef> startoss style, startoss shower and startoss comet
09:38:22 <Ulzef> yeah slashing grace
09:38:29 <Ulzef> it never says melee attack
09:45:33 <Mekkis> !capacity 9
09:45:34 <diebot> Mekkis, 30 if medium, 22.5 if small.
09:45:44 <Steven1> http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2rcio&page=17?Advanced-Class-Guide-Potential-Errors#808
09:47:50 <Ulzef> thats not a offical FAQ so until they FAQ it RAW is that it does work
09:49:12 <Steven1> a devloper has said no it does not work... sure go ahead and build your character on omething a developer said doesnt do what you want it to do.
09:50:09 <Ulzef> based of the rate paizo gets around to correcting things like that a character can be retired by the time they get around to it
09:50:54 <Ulzef> and since they did a errata to the adv class it will prob take them over a year or more before they fix it
09:53:45 <Avatar> the organised play loophole
09:55:22 <Ulzef> frankly thrown weapons are bad enough that they need all the help they can get
09:58:41 <Steven1> my thrown weapon expert disagrees with you, but sure... enjoy your character you know doesnt actually work.
10:03:15 <Ulzef> i also didnt wanna do it as a fighter
10:33:27 <Steven1> http://paizo.com/paizo/faq/v5748nruor1gw#v5748eaic9tmm
10:33:35 <Steven1> for you ulzef
10:34:05 <Ulzef> cool
10:34:36 <Ulzef> :) that fix's the feat issues
12:38:26 <Freymaurer> hey guys, i just registered and now i need some Information on how to get started for pathfinder society
12:42:45 <Freymaurer> hey guys someone online?
12:50:48 <Freymaurer> i am highly interested in playing pathfinder online and well somehow got here^^ if i am at the right spot and i should not be online anymore, pls send me a message to my e-mail: [email protected]
12:52:12 <Steven> alrighty, off to play sewer dragons of absolom w/ OP Coordinator Tonya.
14:50:14 <Freymaurer> no one wants to at least say yes or no? :/
15:07:27 <Steven1> ?
15:07:29 <Steven1> up?
15:29:25 <Freymaurer> wanted to know who i have to write to play some sessions of pathfinder online?^^
15:30:28 <Steven1> whoever is gming the game.
15:30:39 <Steven1> best bet is to sign up on the website
15:30:58 <Freymaurer> on this webside? or where?
17:16:01 <Mekkis> After playing the Blakros Connection, I've decided that the Pathfinder Society is fucked
17:23:10 <Avatar> is this the continuation of what you were trying to say 2 days ago
17:39:43 <Avatar> you say that like it is such a priviledge
17:39:57 <Avatar> I'm off now to play with The Honourable Queen Tonya
17:40:02 <Avatar> at my Table
17:40:23 <Avatar> we shall be drinking fine wine and cheese as we play
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22:45:13 <Steven1> avatar is lost forever!
23:14:24 <Steven> It was pretty great